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Almost Stranded The VinFast VF8! But It's My Own Fault 

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Episode 384: Due to her own forgetfulness, Francie almost makes a leisurely run out to the countryside a situation of a stranded VinFast VF8! She goes over the biggest issues, her plans for servicing, and efficiency of this outing in her EV.
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@nikkirosenbek5471
@nikkirosenbek5471 3 месяца назад
I was told that even the EV battery goes down to 0%, it could still travel another short distance of 2-3 miles! I don't know if it's true or not, but it would be great. Anyway last month, they updated the software of my VF8 Plus, and it's been great so far. It's smooth and comfortable. It's always fun to drive an EV like VF8 Plus powered by a 400-horsepower electric powertrain with all-wheel drive. I just checked Vinfast website and it's offering the similar promotion of $239/month to lease a VF8 this summer.
@quangvinh1153
@quangvinh1153 3 месяца назад
Yeap ! Because vinfast charging service recuse car in vietnam is about 2$ per once. So, some one tested VF8 range from 1% to 0%. He drove 10 km ~ 6 miles, and he stopped at charger station even he could continue.
@APMC100
@APMC100 3 месяца назад
Let us know if they are done with construction on Kellogg street. There was a joke about how the construction work on this street (the largest and longest street in Wichita) will continue as long as Wichita remains. Definitely you need to update the software. Safe trip!
@renes7944
@renes7944 3 месяца назад
Gorgeous...oh yeah the car looks good, too :)
@PygKLB
@PygKLB 3 месяца назад
Your parents deserve a nice Tesla universal wall connector installed where that outlet is. They can charge, you can charge-everyone will be fine.
@dianewallace6064
@dianewallace6064 3 месяца назад
Agreed, a Tesla Universal wall charge can charge any EV.
@mikefleming8675
@mikefleming8675 3 месяца назад
Stop by Kansas City and I'll give you a screen wipe for SprjngRoll
@dianewallace6064
@dianewallace6064 3 месяца назад
6:00 Geez, that car looks good. That green is beautiful and the shape is beautiful.
@konliner9286
@konliner9286 3 месяца назад
Designed by Pininfarina. 👍
@dianewallace6064
@dianewallace6064 3 месяца назад
@@konliner9286 I've heard that but forgot. Great designer. Thanks.
@dennislyon5412
@dennislyon5412 3 месяца назад
Hi Francie - 6.5 years ago, I had my Bolt for less than 1 day, and during those few hours, I came extremely close to bricking it in a Michigan snowstorm. Fortunately a Mitsubishi car dealership (that we found on Plugshare) had a L2 charger available to the public, so I was able to get enough charge in the car to make it to a fast charger 30+ miles away, on a day that we NEEDED to have some heat in the car to keep the windows from fogging up (family of 4 in the car). I survived that, plus 1 or 2 other close calls, and still enjoy my Bolt 100k miles later. EVs are a blast!
@hopdenreview
@hopdenreview 3 месяца назад
You are an objective and honest reviewer
@omniconcepts_7275
@omniconcepts_7275 3 месяца назад
Your enthusiasm for documenting EVs, their evolution, and your EV experiences are always enlightening and wonderfully articulated. Nice impromptu video.
@ericgregori
@ericgregori 3 месяца назад
Respect for admitting your mistake!
@Smoothbarrel
@Smoothbarrel 3 месяца назад
Been waiting for the vinfast videos. I have got to see this science experiment. I have the big battery Nissan Ariya. This EV journey is fun.
@darrinv6798
@darrinv6798 3 месяца назад
Choring references remind me of Letterkenny. 😂 My VF8 is also always connecting to my iPhone from the garage even when it’s “off” and locked. So much so, I’ve gotten into the habit of turning off my iPhone’s Bluetooth.
@quangvinh1153
@quangvinh1153 3 месяца назад
Iphone Bluetooth is automatically turn on when iphone find device. You can test with bluetooth speakers or ear pods. Another case with Android Bluetooth is still turn off.
@rubberroast1598
@rubberroast1598 3 месяца назад
latest software update will improve this. Have you got it yet?
@lesalbro8880
@lesalbro8880 3 месяца назад
Well it's good to know that the Guess-O-Meter seems to be pretty accurate.
@MrDandey
@MrDandey 3 месяца назад
Yes it's pretty accurate. I have plus model, it's EPA range is 250 but it never goes below 260 no matter whether AC is ON, high speeds etc.
@shemik465
@shemik465 3 месяца назад
Hi Francie, Wichita Area Resident here... About .25 miles north of the Vinfast dealer there is WB Harrison Park with a Dog Park- it does require crossing Harry St which is busy most times of the day. If Vinfast gives you a loaner, you can also go to the downtown area along the Arkansas River.... There are good paved trails there. Best parking place is probably at Exploration Place. Coffee shops? There are plenty. Reverie on East Douglas near the College Hill area is probably one the best in Wichita. But there's also R Coffeehouse in the Riverside Neighborhood and Mokas near Exploration Place.
@serraDXB
@serraDXB 3 месяца назад
Hi Francie! Glad youre generally enjoying your VinFast experience so far. I’ve had the steering wheel buttons stop working as well - I unplugged the 12V battery for about 10 seconds, then replugged (essentially a reset for the electronics) and everything was back to normal. Fingers crossed you won’t have further issues going forward :)
@heyfrancie
@heyfrancie 3 месяца назад
Thank you for this advice!!
@quangvinh1153
@quangvinh1153 3 месяца назад
It's so easy ! Remove negative pole of accu 12v and wait 1 minute at least. Reconnect and almost of issues are gone. This action looks like restart of laptop.
@lgrantnelson2863
@lgrantnelson2863 3 месяца назад
I did something similar when the brakes went out on my Leaf and I also had a problem with the I-key. Removed both cables from the 12 volt battery for 15 minutes to be sure the on-board computer was reset. It worked well. I had pulled the electrical connectors off of the brake system previously, but it only worked temporarily. When I mentioned it at the dealer I was told it rebooted. When it happened again I pulled the cables.
@dianewallace6064
@dianewallace6064 3 месяца назад
So you're saying remove the negative pole for 1 minute reboots the EV UI? I studied how to reboot our EVs: R1T and Ioniq6 but this is good to know for any EV.
@quangvinh1153
@quangvinh1153 3 месяца назад
Control system mainboard, sensors, ... electric devices run on accu 12v battery. What happen When accu 12v is low ? Alert Messages pop up alots. Because sensors don't work right, so the result from sensor signal is out of green zone even car situation is normal. Critical low voltage on accu 12v liquid makes death-battery in 4-5 times, you need a new accu 12v liquid (the same of gas car accu) Vinfast system was built on QNX kernel of BlackBerry. I see Vinfast have primary and secondary system. Primary is for basic control. And Secondary system is for Human Interface Device (HID). When Kyle got this spring-roll, he pushed the dashboard in frozen. it's so easy task. Actually, HID is stopped respond, but primary still worked fine. When you lock the car and turn off, HID is off, but primary is still on and run background.
@dianewallace6064
@dianewallace6064 3 месяца назад
@@quangvinh1153 Good explanation. Thanks. That explains why when you change the 12V battery in the Ioniq 6, you lose efficiency data going back to when you bought the vehicle.
@dianewallace6064
@dianewallace6064 3 месяца назад
@@quangvinh1153 Kyle was banging on the UI like crazy and not allowing it to catch up. I thought that was not nice to do to a company car that a friend was going to be driving. I didn't like that.
@BMWI35433
@BMWI35433 3 месяца назад
Love the video and branching out with podcasts on the go! You go Francie!
@BensEcoAdvntr
@BensEcoAdvntr 3 месяца назад
Thanks for these updates Francie
@Bzzap83
@Bzzap83 3 месяца назад
Just a suggestion why not get a Tesla to J1772 adapter to have in the car just in case you need to charge at a Tesla home/destination charger (hotel) or parents house. 😊. Glad you made it back!
@NanoSchaap
@NanoSchaap 3 месяца назад
Not sure it will work. I have a Model Y and VF8. Had an adapter that did not work and VinFast folks mentioned that it was not compatible. Unless they have made changes to the module / software to accept Tesla chargers + J1772 adapter.
@Bzzap83
@Bzzap83 3 месяца назад
@@NanoSchaap on a Tesla Level2 (evse) charger? That is odd, every vehicle I’ve plugged in to that device with my J1772 adapter works fine (Mustang Mach-E, Blazer EV, and others).
@dianewallace6064
@dianewallace6064 3 месяца назад
@@Bzzap83 Agreed, all EVs should be able to use the Tesla to J1772 adapter. (level2 charging)
@rubberroast1598
@rubberroast1598 3 месяца назад
@@NanoSchaap How would you compare the two vehicles? My VF8 is still relatively new but i got a smoking deal compared to the MY. I do expect some growing pains in return that will get better with software. But i was really close to getting the MY instead 3 months ago. I am happy...quite a few things it has that MY doesnt, but yes there are things VF8 still needs to improve that are noticable every now and then.
@APMC100
@APMC100 3 месяца назад
@@NanoSchaap it works for me. With exception of Tesla supercharger, all Tesla’s level 2 works for the Vf8
@CheddarKungPao
@CheddarKungPao 3 месяца назад
Yay glad you and Rafiki were ok! :) I had a not so dire situation just happen to me where I got to the parking garage for my hotel and there were no available EV chargers but there was a plug I the wall I could use. I *have* my mobile charger BUT I have never used it and there is a zip tie holding it bound up that I cannot break with my hands and I have no scissors or anything to cut it with. So I couldn't plug in. Luckily I could easily make it to the nearby EA, but that was a frustrating realization. :)
@tenchubv
@tenchubv 3 месяца назад
You can fix yourself by disconnect the 12V battery, unplug the 30A Fuse marked VCU (map of all fuse under the cover of fuse box). Leave it for 10 min then plug it in, connect the battery again your ADAS might be good to go.
@DuongNguyen-mb6rp
@DuongNguyen-mb6rp Месяц назад
❤❤❤❤❤ xin cảm ơn bạn đã nói về xe vin phát mong rằng vin phát cải thiện và phục vụ tốt hơn nữa
@giotnuocroi9119
@giotnuocroi9119 3 месяца назад
Chiếc xe vinfat của việt nam rất đẹp và tốt,rẻ so với cùng phân khúc được trang bị hơn các xe hãng khác
@NoseyNick
@NoseyNick Месяц назад
Believe the steering wheel buttons are a hardware fault. VF should be able to swap it out, for free, probably for a newer one that has a little signpost button instead of LIM for setting ADAS to the most-recently-seen speed limit.
@proud4373
@proud4373 3 месяца назад
Yep! It's one of those days, which has happened to me, too😂
@Vincehunting336
@Vincehunting336 3 месяца назад
The suv looks outdated design like 10 years old 2014 Acura MDX. It does not looks any EV design spirit.
@pierrebinette9408
@pierrebinette9408 3 месяца назад
How can you make honest reviews on Vinfast if you make commercials on Kia ?? How can you be neutral ??
@IronmanV5
@IronmanV5 3 месяца назад
Kyle is rubbing off on you...... Something to do is having 2 EVSEs. Your main one you keep in the frunk, and a cheaper backup you keep in the rear.
@Bzzap83
@Bzzap83 3 месяца назад
I travel with a few adapters and on longer trips bring a EVSE (J+ booster which is very durable but cost more than my primary home system).
@mikeintampa250
@mikeintampa250 3 месяца назад
Glad you made it! Cool log cabin.
@sirgardensalot
@sirgardensalot 3 месяца назад
I don't know if it's possible to record when you get to the service center and see what it's like and if they have the vf9 they have just dropped the price on that
@heyfrancie
@heyfrancie 3 месяца назад
100% will document it all - I think the whole road trip will go on the Out of Spec Motoring channel but I'll do updates here on the podcast.
@vanphan9318
@vanphan9318 3 месяца назад
Good car🎉
@tomm5936
@tomm5936 3 месяца назад
Kyle will laugh at arriving with 5%. You need to get it to 1% to be on the out of spec team 😀
@frankcoffey
@frankcoffey 3 месяца назад
I bought a second mobile adapter for my Model Y so this wouldn't happen. One for the garage and one for the trunk. I also got the CCS adapter for DC charging just in case.
@bfvader
@bfvader 3 месяца назад
I always leave a Tesla to J1772 (AC) adapter in my EV6's frunk. Might be worth leaving an adapter at your parents' place in case you forget again!
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 3 месяца назад
Afternoon Francie it looks like a British racing green
@dianewallace6064
@dianewallace6064 3 месяца назад
That car looks so good.
@sirgardensalot
@sirgardensalot 3 месяца назад
Laid back and friendly but Doo-Dah Diner brings the wow-factor when it comes to home-style comfort food and the celebrities they serve, Harrison Ford gives it free thumbs up, find retro treasures or items to decorate your home and office at a variety of shops in downtown Wichita, Old Town, or the Douglas Design District.
@sparkysho-ze7nm
@sparkysho-ze7nm 3 месяца назад
Great podcast FRANCIE tytyty
@tuthanmau134
@tuthanmau134 3 месяца назад
Curious to see how they fix those issues in Kansas 🤔
@APMC100
@APMC100 3 месяца назад
Hers has the outdated software version. That’s exactly what happened to mine, and fixed after the update
@tuthanmau134
@tuthanmau134 3 месяца назад
@@APMC100 Yes, I also think so. She is quite far from any service workshop or showroom of Vinfast, and for major software updates, they do not allow OTA updates, but have to bring the car to the showroom for staff to update. Small OTA is probably not enough to fix all the errors she is currently encountering.
@stevenst56
@stevenst56 3 месяца назад
Great story and Springroll review, glad you made it back! I look forward to the road trip and Wichita update! Thanks.
@michaelwitkiewicz7052
@michaelwitkiewicz7052 3 месяца назад
Just curious as I’m shopping for a mobile charger. What do you use for Spring Roll and how do you like it?
@heyfrancie
@heyfrancie 3 месяца назад
The one I use came with Spring Roll- VinFast Portable Charger - and it works great! It has the option to switch to 110V or the 220V plug to work to get a trickle charge or a bit more out of the nema 1450. Not sure who manufacturers it, I'll have to see.
@PeaceChanel
@PeaceChanel 3 месяца назад
. Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊
@YeOldeTraveller
@YeOldeTraveller 3 месяца назад
One of the more important details I get from OOS and Bjorn videos is the way the vehicle acts as you approach depletion.
@tjackele
@tjackele 3 месяца назад
Take a tour of Martin Logan speaker factory.
@teslatim78
@teslatim78 3 месяца назад
So beautiful❤
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 3 месяца назад
Cheers Francie
@viethapham9391
@viethapham9391 3 месяца назад
😎😎😎😎😎😍😍😍😍😍
@anhvunguyen2775
@anhvunguyen2775 3 месяца назад
😍😍😍🥰🥰🥰 Thank Video
@claircaldwell7214
@claircaldwell7214 3 месяца назад
Rafiki!!!
@tranminhkhang8175
@tranminhkhang8175 2 месяца назад
Hi
@extendedepicmusic5017
@extendedepicmusic5017 3 месяца назад
Gotta apply sunscreen Francie, sunscreen!!
@gregyohngy
@gregyohngy 3 месяца назад
Carry an extension cord with your 110v charger. On Saturday June 8th, I drained my car down to 6% and 1%. I couldn't find an available Level 2, so I stopped at a gas station with Tesla Fast Chargers and plugged into their 110v plug. The 2nd time I stopped at a pizza shop and used their 110v plug. Getting to my Level 2 charger found me assisting a day 1 Leaf owner. I charged him up using my extension cord and his charger. He had been there FIVE hours! The charger was broken. Bring an extension cord!
@stormsj
@stormsj 3 месяца назад
I think there are fuses you can pull and reinsert to reset the steering wheel stuff from a VinFast user group I follow.
@APMC100
@APMC100 3 месяца назад
Cars are meant to be driven, not to get the hands dirty. This was exactly what happened to my vf8, after 6 months driving an outdated software. New update fixed that
@APMC100
@APMC100 3 месяца назад
Updated: I've just been told by another owner, yes what you said was correct. I did not know that
@alexdalgleish1061
@alexdalgleish1061 3 месяца назад
Visit Tyler Hoover or The Car Wizard while in Kansas.
@thenetworkarchitectchannel
@thenetworkarchitectchannel 3 месяца назад
Not an OoS vid w/o cutting to the bone. ;-} welcome to the cool club. Thx for the video.
@TheJ1s
@TheJ1s 3 месяца назад
Well, at least it's not a Fisker Ocean (which I was hoping would make it, but it seems to be a scam auto business), Vinfast I still don't trust it, but once your lease is up, I hope you have your ideal EV in mind ready to purchase.
@dianewallace6064
@dianewallace6064 3 месяца назад
Also, I carry jumper cables for road trips in case my 12V battery goes kaput. You have to have another ICE car jump you though.
@techyjames1945
@techyjames1945 3 месяца назад
Too bad Vinfast can’t use Over The Air Updates to get needed updates. Guess Tesla has spoiled us with what can be done by OTA updates.
@Regenme-io1sk
@Regenme-io1sk 3 месяца назад
Much like the misapplication of watt and watt hour the industry name for a 30 amp AC outlet is a "dryer outlet" and the industry name for a 50 amp AC outlet is a "range outlet".
@dmunro9076
@dmunro9076 3 месяца назад
An Tesla AC plug -> J1772 adapter would be a good thing to keep in the car.
@chungloankenny
@chungloankenny 3 месяца назад
update your spring roll as soon as possible
@MrLogansimmons
@MrLogansimmons 3 месяца назад
I was going to suggest that you fire up the tractor to get back.
@engineerjay420
@engineerjay420 3 месяца назад
I see trip B used 2.8 mi/kw and you increased to 3.9mi/kwh good job driving! Because of this video I am always going to have a backup EVSE in my frunk. Thank you for sharing!
@quangvinh1153
@quangvinh1153 3 месяца назад
2.8mi/kw with speed 60-70mph 3.9mi/kw with speed 30-40mph
@lgrantnelson2863
@lgrantnelson2863 3 месяца назад
You are so fortunate the readings are fairly accurate. Not so on the Leaf Guess-o-meter. I made a wrong turn and ended on freeway north with 28 miles on the readout. The next town was 20 miles away. By the time I got to the first exit, where I got off, the readouts were blank, which meant I was almost to turtle mode. By the time I got to an EA charging station I had been on turtle mode for a while. The single Chademo station was unavailable. I had to get towed to another charging station. I forgot to use the GPS to keep from making a wrong turn. Another time the station where I usually charge was full, so I kept on going and ended up at my destination on turtle mode. Towed again. There's nothing like going 27 mph in a 40 mph speed zone.
@quangvinh1153
@quangvinh1153 3 месяца назад
Dropping from 1% to 0%, VF8 could run slowly in 8-10km with ~ 20-30km/h . It was tested in vietnam by an owner. Because, Vinfast recuse car is about 2$/case. So, Why not? Haha
@adamchalom3872
@adamchalom3872 3 месяца назад
You should do a 70 mph range test at your altitude (or even close to sea level if you are close enough and THEN do it in Colorado - could provide a correction factor for range testing at altitude if it is done with a few of the same vehicles in both places.
@YeOldeTraveller
@YeOldeTraveller 3 месяца назад
You could compare the range Tom of State of Charge gets in NJ with the the range that they get in CO/WY/NE. However, there are significant differences in the terrain, traffic, and weather that I am not sure how useful a single test would be. I would expect a significant overlap in test data if a series of tests were made in each location. Not saying it would not be interesting or useful, just that getting a good number will require a significant effort.
@adamchalom3872
@adamchalom3872 3 месяца назад
Fair points. The advantage of this would be that it is the same vehicle within a close timeframe (ie minimal battery degradation change). The usual range tests are single tests rather than a series anyways.
@JHaviland1
@JHaviland1 3 месяца назад
To fix your steering wheel control buttons, you need to remove and reinstall a fuse that is located behind the small compartment on the left knee area, driver's side!
@JHaviland1
@JHaviland1 3 месяца назад
​But before you get the sw update, you can do this to get you back to using ADAS feature for the long ride..​@@APMC100
@APMC100
@APMC100 3 месяца назад
Apparently that is correct (I never used that method)
@gocnhinvutru
@gocnhinvutru 3 месяца назад
A strange brand. But looks good
@dianewallace6064
@dianewallace6064 3 месяца назад
It looks so good- the shape and the color.
@NgocXuanParis
@NgocXuanParis 3 месяца назад
The Renault Scenic e-tech SUV has just been named "Car of the Year 2024", with a retail price of €36,000. Meanwhile, the price of the VF8 is USD 50,000. Vinfast is looking for ways to openly rip off consumers, while the VF8's spare parts come from China and the car is assembled in Vietnam for a pittance. The car is not well designed, so it is very heavy (2500kg) and consumes a lot of electricity. Not to mention that it is manufactured and assembled in China and Vietnam, two countries whose electricity comes from coal, which is very harmful to the environment. Currently, Vinfast's share price has fallen below USD 3 and the company has a loss of 2.4 billion plus the previous debt of 8.2 billion, so we don't know how long it will exist. In short, VF8 is a disaster for users and the environment.
@sonnguyenba1709
@sonnguyenba1709 3 месяца назад
I see you everywhere saying bad things about Vinfast. You've never even touched a Vinfast car to feel how beautiful and powerful it is. Regarding the origin of the car, have you seen the Vinfast factory in Hai Phong? 50-60% of the car's components are from Vietnam, and other systems are from Germany, Italy, batteries are from China (same as Tesla). I know you make money from these dirty comments. I advise you to look for a decent job to make money.
@NgocXuanParis
@NgocXuanParis 3 месяца назад
​@@sonnguyenba1709 I'm here to expose the lies so that garbage can find its rightful place in the garbage can. VF8 does not come from Vietnam, because, according to Mr. Phan Dang Tuat, President of the Vietnam Support Industries Association, "Vietnam can only produce screws to fix car license plates. According to Frandroid " The electric VF8 is the target of an investigation in the United States following a serious accident that claimed the lives of a family of four. The cause: faulty driving aids. But in addition to this dramatic accident, more than 11 complaints have already been lodged against the company due to similar concerns, where the car abruptly changed trajectory. That's not all, as other owners have also reported anti-collision system failures, while some have indicated problems with semi-autonomous driving. One motorist saw his vehicle hit traffic cones at night on a freeway. I suggest you take your lies elsewhere.
@vutran3183
@vutran3183 3 месяца назад
Thanks for your review but vinfast is still bottom of the list for unreliable EV car in North America. Battery can not hold that long as they said in the marketing then will be a big difference with convenient or not for a long distance driving
@MinhNguyen87556
@MinhNguyen87556 3 месяца назад
You are so outdated.
@sonnguyenba1709
@sonnguyenba1709 3 месяца назад
No one cares about your baseless comments. Stop commenting spam. You should touch the car, sit on it to feel how beautiful, strong and safe it is.
@Json918
@Json918 3 месяца назад
I get it content generation, but just buy a Tesla... here comes the edgy people who like to be corky vinfast or Pole(star) owners a cry to be different. 🤡
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 3 месяца назад
It's just plain stupid to buy and drive an inferior ev and report about it. That creates the impression that evs are not ready for mass adoption yet when Teslas clearly are.
@JHaviland1
@JHaviland1 3 месяца назад
Who wants to drive a car that everyone else has? Do you want to wear a uniform so you can.. "fit" in with the rest? I, as a VinFast VF8 owner, certainly don't! LOL
@APMC100
@APMC100 3 месяца назад
"Inferior"? Poor choice of words. Quirkier maybe, more competitively price I would say so. There is a reason why people don't wear school uniforms to a party.
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 3 месяца назад
@@APMC100 it's inferior an every way.
@APMC100
@APMC100 3 месяца назад
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 nah
@sonnguyenba1709
@sonnguyenba1709 3 месяца назад
Don't tell people who have money how to spend it? and never say their choice is stupid. Each car has a different beauty. You have never touched a Vinfast car but you criticize it badly. So what is your purpose? Have you understood anything about Vinfast cars?
@tricao4642
@tricao4642 3 месяца назад
Be careful with this car or any Vinfasts its airbags never work when accidents occur
@beautifullife1881
@beautifullife1881 3 месяца назад
You do not even own a car, how do you know liar died Republic of Vietnam 3/// bastard?
@NhatVinhLe-lm5jh
@NhatVinhLe-lm5jh 3 месяца назад
Bullshit 3/ Lol...
@MinhNguyen-vl7jj
@MinhNguyen-vl7jj 3 месяца назад
stop liar dude
@sonnguyenba1709
@sonnguyenba1709 3 месяца назад
You don't know that in Vietnam tens of thousands of Vinfast Vf8 cars run every day, and it is also the safest car. So never say baseless things.
@tricao4642
@tricao4642 3 месяца назад
@@sonnguyenba1709 unsafe cars even though “ made by Vici “ apparently they are equipped with Chinese parts that is why the North Carolina plant has extinct due to American 🇺🇸 have rejected any Vinfasts.
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