Sehe ich ähnlich. Ich habe eine Theorie. Über die 2 Spiele und die bisher bestehenden Konversationen mit unseren NPCs sprich Erend, Avad und Seyka etc. hatten wir immer 3 Optionen wie Aloy darauf reagieren sollte, es muss einen Grund dafür geben. Es gab immer sehr subtile Hinweise, wenn man genauer hinsieht. Jeder von uns hat seinen Liebling im Horizon Universum und darauf zielen die Entwickler hoffentlich ab - jeden anzusprechen oder zumindest dem Spieler die Entscheidungsfreiheit zu geben, das wir letztendlich im dritten und finalen Teil selber die Entscheidung treffen können wie es mit Aloys Abenteuer zu Ende geht. Sei es mit Avad, Erend oder Seyka. Denn bis jetzt wurde nicht bestätigt das Aloy ausschließlich auf Frauen steht, noch das Elisabeth „nur“ lesbisch war. Ich hoffe einfach das Guerilla das berücksichtigt. Dennoch finde ich diese riesige Spaltung innerhalb der HORIZON COMMUNITY wegen diesem Thema absolut traurig…
@@Cuty_peach212 Agenda . Pura agenda LGBT . Ya veo en el horizonte un Halo con un Máster Chief gay y dándose con el Inquisidor . Un nuevo Zelda con un Link negro y una Zelda empoderada yendo a rescatarlo .
That's what I was thinking. At least for now with Nemesis approaching. She's got a lot of her plate after saving the world three times now, and also preventing the eruption of Yellowstone.
@@Fryether Yes but she prevented Walter from going through with his plan, so she did save the world again by proxy. If his Horus hadn't been destroyed, it's possible that it could have remained active long enough to wake up others. At the very least, it would have begun to mass produce Titans and Scarabs. Also because Gaia doesn't yet have full control of the terraforming system, she may not be able to send the shut down codes a second time.
Yeah, after doing a playthru on PC with DLC back to back to base game, I kinda agree. It's nice for everyone who wanted to see something there, but canonically, with everything she's been through and likely to go through in just a couple of months... I don't think this would be the momement she'd just- dive in, ya know? Oh yeah and for one kiss and then to be gone for months kind seems like a grade A asshole move haha.
@@KJetixsSuccessorI also ship Talanah and Aloy, but considering what happened in her side quest, it probably wouldn’t make sense for them to get together.
The "I'm not ready for this" is my Canon. We see Aloy open up about her past and how she feels, and see how she's still learning how to let herself feel. It makes sense and still progresses her character, without feeling forced, plus it leaves the 3rd game open to maybe finding herself falling for someone, despite the odds against her.
It felt the most natural for me as well. She just began accepting help from others, embracing her friends, and feeling the pain of losing people dear to her that wasn't Rost. To jump into romance so quickly didn't click to me, but I interpret that as Guerilla saying that in the next game we will be presented with romantic choices for Aloy. I love Seyka though, and I hope she'll be in the next game. She fits Aloy to a T and is a stronger contender to be her partner
Yeah plus. I didn’t really like the fact that Aloy would instantly fall in love with a woman she literally met a few days ago. When she’s been with Erend, Talanah, Petra, Avad, even Kotallo for wayy longer. I’m just glad they didn’t force this relationship. I can’t wait to pick my choice for Aloy.
I chose that option too, but I chose it because in the prologue of the game, in the conversation with Avad, I chose the option that Aloy says that she'd accept his date invitation after her mission is over
"I'm not ready for this" is the realistic choice. Aloy has Nemesis in mind and busy finding a weakness. She can't settle down yet. But at least the devs showed that they can put romance systems for the 3rd game. Interesting. I'm straight btw but Seyka was a good character.
She wouldn’t be settling down. The heart option was they kiss and she leaves anyway. One of the main points of the DLC was character development for Aloy. The second game she lets people help her, in the DLC she lets someone get close in a way shes never let herself feel. Maybe to set something up for the third game? 🤷♀️ Who knows. Personally, I didn’t want any romances. I wanted Aloy to live her life with Beta. Aloy teaching her how to hunt and Beta teaching her stuff from Apollo or something. But I see why they did it and I trust Guerrilla so I’m not too worried about it.
Yeah cramming this romance plot feels poorly handled. Two huge games of Aloy being completely mission-minded and turning down every single advance from people she has fought beside to save the world *twice* and now we’re supposed to believe this brand-new character is the only one we have the option to choose after they survive *one* DLC-sized mission together? Really hope they open up other options in the next main installment. It’s like playing Mass Effect 3 and being stuck with only Vega and Traynor as your only options.
She's good but it feels so forced because she just appeared in an EXPANSION of the SECOND GAME and now she's a romantic interest? Bullcrap, she showed chemistry and has more history with other characters since the first game like Erend or Varl (RIP T_T), narratively speaking, it doesn't make sense this "romantic" interest
@@gracemesch16 Good points! FW shows Aloy accepting others, embracing people again after spending so many years isolated and closed off from others after losing Rost. Losing Varl makes me think that she realised she actually values them a lot and wants them close, not far, so they defeated the Zenith together at the end. This DLC shows her now willing to open up to others and be romantically involved with someone. Seyka fits her characters a lot. She's daring, strong-minded, adventurous. However, like you, I'd rather have Aloy stay single. For once, a character in a videogame isn't tied to love. And a female character, on top of that. Aloy feels the most forward and modern character so far in games, and I hope Guerilla will give us the option to keep her single in the 3rd game. If not, well... I hope Kotallo is a choice, too lol I'll have to compare him to Seyka. Seyka needs more time with Aloy and the rest of the group.
I actually prefer the "This is too much for me" option, it's a way to let Seyka down gently while still highlighting Aloy's "gotta save the world" mentality. The "I'm not ready for this" option comes across as a lot harsher, more like the actual rejection option.
The world is probably ending and I wanted her to finally find her person and she did. Lol I like that there is different options to make everyone's choice different
The heart option is cannon and no one can tell me otherwise and thats probably what Guerrilla intended. One of the main points of the DLC was character development for Aloy. If you choose any of the other options then what character development has Aloy made in the past two games? To keep rejecting everyone and never learn to let someone in? One of the focuses in the second game was Aloy learning to let people help her. And the DLC was Aloy learning to let herself experience feelings she’s never let herself feel. I feel like its all supposed to be a stark contrast to Elisabet. Elisabet never let herself get too close to anyone. Like Tilda for example. Elisabet also sacrificed herself for the hope of a new world. Aloy is trying to preserve the one they already have and she’s learning to accept help along the way. Guerrilla showed us the similarities Aloy and Elisabet share in the first game. The second game and especially the DLC is to highlight their differences. To show that, yes, Aloy is a direct clone of Elisabet and they share some of the same qualities, but Elisabet never let anyone in and died alone sacrificing herself for the world. Aloy is learning to accept help and letting herself feel things she would otherwise suppress. It would be a pretty boring story if Aloy did the same exact thing as Elisabet, don’t you think?
@@gracemesch16 its not cannon to me,reeks of ESG money to get a boost in sales,make a char gay 2 games and 2 DLCs into a franchise? lmao bruh i see now why horizon got bundled with the ps5,guerilla said they will alphabet aloy and in return they got a bundle deal for their investors and cause you buy the game with the ps5 regardless if you play it or not they got a sale anyway sneaky,i wont be getting 3,i loved the franchise thus far and its not even about the lgbt stuff,its you can smell corpo ESG money on it,if she was gay from the start i would of not minded as much. i rolled my eyes at the pride facepaint,was like bruhhhh its a post apoc game but very well,then this shit? nah DROPPED
@@random_an0n Did you even read my comment? Can you explain how Guerrilla is doing this for money? If anything this is a huge risk Guerrilla took in making Aloy’s character queer. I doubt they did it for sales. And you’re proving that too by saying you’re no longer playing the game. You’re probably not the only one to stop playing either, I’m sure there are a lot of homophobes out there that will stop playing as well. I see it all over twitter.
Regardless of the choice, can we stop and appreciate how absolutely amazing Ashley Burch has been throughout this series? The way her voice cracks when Aloy gets emotional just sounds so perfect.
yep, also, I think that Lance Reddick is awesome too, Sylens is one of my favorite characters in the franchise. it's a shame that we won't see him in the next game
I feel like all choices are valid to Aloy's feelings and experiences. I went with the 'Yes' choice however, because the whole game has been about her opening up to people and finding a true, personal reason to fight on, instead of trying to exemplify her genetic mother. Saying yes felt like a culmination of that journey and a narratively fitting end to the Forbidden West.
I definitely feel like the second game was Aloy tearing herself down trying to stand in the shoes of what is technically her former self. Through her journey I definitely think she's learned that she's Elisabet, but she's also Aloy. I hope in the next game she learns to forgive the Nora just as she learned to love and trust in her friends.
I feel the “This is too much for me” choice is the truest to Aloy’s character and development thus far; turning down all kinds of advances from attractive individuals for the sake of her mission, I chose “Yes”, just because I can’t help but want Aloy to be happy even just for a moment cuz goddamn has her life been rough.
the whole dlc has hinted at aloy and seyka having feelings for each other. the love option is the only one in my mind. justice for petra though. I bet if she spent more time with aloy, it would’ve been a similar scenario as with seyka, although admittedly seyka’s soft approach let aloy bring down her walls at her own pace
I personally think the most "Aloy" decision is "this is too much for me". However, that may be personal projection on my end. When the world is hanging on by a thread, with Nemesis on the horizon (no pun intended) I just don't think Aloy would personally take the time to consider love. I believe that she FEELS love, though. "this is too much", to me, means "I do, and I want it, but I need to make sure there's even a world left for it". They say "better to have loved and lost" but I disagree. I think once Aloy's adventure is over is when she'd realistically consider it. Better than agreeing to it and then watching each other die.
thats the nice thing, all are valid. For me i chose love since, if you think about, while Aloy did try to stay focused, it ultimately wore down on her more to stay closed off than open up to people which she learns throughout Forbidden West, particularly after Varl died before he could see the end of this long road. The world is hanging in the balance, but Aloy can also try to enjoy her feelings while she has them, as she or those she cares about might not live long enough to appreciate it.
I really don't get why somebody can love and fight for a cause at the same time. Do you think people don't fall in love while changing jobs, or moving cities? I know the end of the world is a bit of a bigger deal, but still.
I hope they continue with this approach towards romance for Aloy, of leaving it up to the player to decide whether Aloy is Heterosexual, Lesbian or has no interest in romance. That way all players can be satisfied.
Absolutely! That would be at least the most tactically smartest option for Guerilla to please everyone. I think it's extremely sad that such a big rift has arisen in the horizon community because of this. Give the players the choice of how Aloy's path should end in Horizon 3 I hope Guerilla listens to their fanbase ❤
@@Cuty_peach212 no, they shouldn’t listen to everyone whining about losing their ship, they should write the story they are writing and not have poor romance options because people cried too much over Aloy getting an actual story love interest.
I went with the Love option, even though my thoughts were “we have a ‘The End is Nigh’ scenario incoming, so having a romance may not be ideal at this current moment”. . . . But I really like Seyka and their chemistry was slowly becoming apparent they had feelings for each other. Though it was interesting to see the other options all the same
Imagine how Erand and Avad would react if they saw this. Aloy and Avad had blushing moments going on before she Forbidden West starts and Erand was simping on Aloy since the 1st game which is YEARS only to be replaced by a Woman she met in like a few days.
Exactly! This is such a pathetic attempt of Guerrilla Games to try and be politically correct and make a certain group happy. So much story has been built up with longer known characters but instead they pull this!?? Sigh
Fans may have wanted them together, but Aloy was never romantically interested in Avad. Erend she loves, but I always thought platonically, and I like how he accepts her friendship love as all he's likely to ever get, and doesn't push the issue, even while he wishes for more. That is life sometimes. And if you've never met someone with whom you've had an immediate "click" and attraction with, then I suppose this won't make sense to you. But it happens all the time around this vast wide world. Instant connection, shared passion - it's far more powerful than someone having an unrequited crush on you for years.
If Aloy rejects Seyka, can she go back and romance say Erend or Talanah or Petra or ❤Kotallo❤. The game has been out for a year now maybe a little more and there are some characters from the second game that we would have more connection with. As cool as Seyka is, I feel like her romance has just been pushed way too quickly.
@@greenknight5432 for the 3rd game. Forbidden West & now Burning Shores especially show Aloy's progression as she finally understands Sobek's mistake of solitude (that you can't just save the world, you actually need to live in it). So this is just a tease that we gonna have multiple options for a romance in the 3rd game. Erend, Avad, Seyka & someone else I'm 100% sure
@@ConverseEvolution I totally agree. If they allow us to choose who she can romance instead of just forcing us to choose one I feel like could satisfy everybody. Because again we’ve had so much interaction with multiple characters over the past two games that we have all thought she could romance and it just feels like a slap in the face if they don’t give that to us
@@novaKnightimagination4215 100% sure that's what's gonna happen. They specifically end things ambiguously with Seyka even if you chose to go with it, so in the next game you'd have a choice. Also more companion interactions would be my desire, like everyone having a Birthday party at the base or going to ride that balloon with your friend/romance in hidden ember (whatever analog there is gonna be in the next installment) After this expansion I'm certain we are going into that direction
As cool as it for Aloy find love, is there any chance that if we reject Seyka, can we romance somebody from the main game? Like as interesting as it is, I wanted her to be with somebody else for a very long time, and I really would like to see that happen.
First off I'm queer so don't think this comment is anti queer cuz it's not..... The biggest issue with them making Aloy queer is that they have set a precedent that they believe queer is a genetic trait that is detectable and cloneable when this is simply not the case... I'm happy there is an option to say no, but the fact that we haven't even had this choice yet with Erend or even Talanah is a huge cop out! Especially when both character had potential love interest story lines set up (talanahs being subtly hinted in comics but they threw away that idea with FW)
They're probably testing the waters with this DLC to see how people respond to Aloy having a love interest and that love interest being a woman. I agree there are more fleshed out characters that could be with Aloy but let's wait and see for the third game. I also don't think they're trying to say that Sexuality is genetic, or at least not entirely. But it is also important to remember that Aloy isn't really the child of Elisabet, she's a literal AI-generated clone of her, so if her sexual preferences were transferred it would make sense without necessary saying that it's genetic, but I could be wrong depending on where they take it in horizon 3.
But it kinda is... There's a lot of research in that, for example in twins that there's a high possibility of them having the same orientation. Regardless of their upbringing.
It being optional could mean they wont ever bring it up again and it being DLC leans more towards that. It could also mean maybe more options will be in part 3.
I want 2 things. Petra as a love option. I personally found Seyka abit annoying, and I want Gildun to be best friends with everyone and never be sad a day in his life.
@@emmanuelstalder6968 nope it’s not, the flashpoint system isn’t about narrative choices. Aloy wants to be with Seyka regardless of your choice and she will admit having feelings for her to Varl, regardless of your choice.
Man I was dreading this decision the entire time when I was playing the DLC. I have no problems with the romance being with another woman (I’m a bi woman myself), it just felt like another rushed Korra and Asami situation. I think that Seyka is pretty cool, albeit a little flat character wise. There wasn’t really any chemistry between these two imo 🤷🏻♀️. The relationship between Aloy and Erend during the quest where we had to find Erend’s sister felt WAY more organic. It’s nice that they give us the option to say “no” to her though.
Seyka and Aloy are too much alike. As someone on another site said, Aloy falls in love with herself. I prefer story romances where the couple are very different from each other. This makes for a more interesting dynamic. Hopefully Aloy’s future relationships are better written.
Nil is way too weird for a relationship with Aloy. He went from former Carja soldier to prisoner to psychotic dude who hunted bandits to Fast and Furious. Avad clearly needs therapy. He had Ersa taken from him, and he's understandably upset and grieving. He projects his "what could have been" onto Aloy, and that just wouldn't be healthy.
The final option in the video makes the most sense to Aloy's character. She doesn't have the time for the level that Seyka wants to go to, just as she hasn't had with anyone else. (Plus I feel like the devs threw it in there for the Lesbian pride craze, plus there are better ships for Aloy than these two, and all of them are heterosexual/straight.)
I loved Seyka, she's adorable, but I softly rejected her. I'm holding out hope I'll be able to romance Kotallo next game. But if there are zero (no pun intended) romance options and this was the only one, then I am fine with this. BUT if there are, I really like Kotallo. He's respectful and has really cute chemistry with Aloy. But who knows. I just want Aloy to be happy 💕
Really hope the third game has a romance system, I haven't played this DLC but I feel Seyka came out of nowhere, especially when there are characters that have a much deeper relationship with Aloy than Seyka and have come a long way with her.
Such a thing would be fitting with the previous game's choice system as seen in this video. I saw some small examples in Zero Dawn and Forbidden West that to me showed that Aloy is bisexual, but I agree that the relationship with Seyka (if you chose to go through with it) was rushed, so it would be nice if the game designers for Horizon 3 gave us the choice of who Aloy could end up with whether it be with Seyka, Erend, or no one at all.
Me personally, I never felt like love fits in with Aloy’s Journey at this point, she’s constantly at odds with a new looming threat all the time and I feel like she shouldn’t be in a relationship with anyone at least until NEMESIS is defeated. After that, then I think it would be more appropriate and earned.
Yeah seriously, at the beginning of Forbidden west, there's options for Aloy's feelings for that king and we had choices but apparently that's dropped for gay Aloy
Not a fan of how this was handled. Fans have spent two full games with half the cast of supporting characters being viable options for Aloy with no option to pursue any of them only to be stripped of any real choice for a character shoehorned into a DLC. Aloy has saved the world twice over with Erend, Varl (RIP), Avad and several others and still turns ALL of them down for the sake of her mission. We’re supposed to believe she has one much smaller adventure with this brand-new character and she just goes head-over-heels?? Come on!!! I love the Horizon games but this is a major L for the writers.
What does how long she's spent with any of those characters have to do with anything? That's not how love/attraction works. People just click instantly all the time. Just because Aloy spent a lot of time with those other characters doesn't mean she's going to be automatically attracted to them.
@@Highlander77 if aloy had a thing for hot asian girls who was all badass and shit she would of been scissoring that girl from the 1st game...but she didnt what did this new one have the other did not? and a fraction of time spent together also face it...aloy was straight then they retconned it to shes gay to get a sony ps5 bundle deal to drive sales of the game by bundling it with consoles that is why it felt hamfisted and cringe..cause it never was supposed to be there and added last min got no problem with lezbos,i fap to it all the time i just dont like gaywashing fapping to lezbos is less gay cause if i watch a man pound a woman then its 50% gay cause im seeing another dudes dingus and im training my brain to be a cuck to get off watching another man pound a girl which is bad but 2 girls = 0% gay
@@Highlander77 from a gaming perspective, it’s frustratingly inconsistent and not something that should have been squeezed into a DLC. Having a romance option after two HUGE games of “hey I like you!” “Sorry but my mission comes first” is already a big change but it still feels a bit ridiculous to add an *entirely* new character expressly to serve that end. It would be like if Mass Effect had no romance options until 3 and then the only option they cram in is Vega or Traynor. All this talk about playing your way and choosing your dialog options and then when we finally get a real choice that might actually make a difference in the narrative (the sparing/killing Regala choice was a COMPLETE joke), the devs say “aight it’s this totally new person or nobody.”
Aloy and Seyka have not known each other that long, this was pushed waaay too quickly and their relationship is more like best buds. Also I really wanted Aloy to go back to Sun King Avad lol, or be with Kotallo, as he reminds me of Rost in a way.
its not even best buds,the DLC was like 15 hours and in game time only a few days had past,and they went on like 3 missions so it was like only 3 in game days and most of that was fighting totally inorganic,alot went from indifferent to biting her lip and being touchy feely by the end of the 2nd mission,what was it? hearing the girl talk about her sister joined a cult that turned her on lmao? it was so cringe and outof touch,it was like a lez romance written by a virgin male,who doesnt understand how love works....it was like the devs took ESG money from soros and picked up the 2 models and went "now kiss!" like dolls lol
This doesn't bother me in the slightest. That said when your game appeals to a broad audience, this is unwise. Aloi's story didn't really need romance and this feels kind of forced. If you are going to give the player agency and choice, you may as well have 2 romance genders like in Mass Effect. Then everyone is happy.
Yeah I like the cyberpunk and mass effect way of doing it. You can basically pick your character's orientation and try out different paths. I think that's smart because it lets the player bring what they want to the character. Even as a straight person myself, I'll choose the character I like the most, not the orientation I want my character to be. That freedom is great. That being said, I like seyka and as much as I was team-no-romance, I thought this was a great diversion for aloy and I'm excited to see how it plays out in the 3rd game
@Moon Moon have you played the new expansion where she has a choice to be with one of the female characters?? This is what this video is about! If they Aloy is given a choice to choose a female love interest, it would have been fair for all players to have a choice for a male love interest or to choose none as well.
@@borg111 Aloy is not a faceless, voiceless create-a-character. She has a personality and wants outside of the player, as it's a narrative driven game. She's queer, get over it.
If it does then it's gonna make Erend probably leave the group cuz at the end of the day he's ONLY THERE for Aloy because he clearly likes her.. hell she was in his arms at the end of the base game... But then again who knows since they gave us a choice to murder Nil but it didn't matter in the end anyway...
@@DrRippenShitten they're still friends though, i highly doubt erend would just abandon aloy if she rejected him or got into a relationship, that would just show that he's a bad friend. I think it would actually be interesting if Aloy got into a relationship in Horizon 3, so Erend's character kind of had to expand a bit more. I don't want a love triangle but more for Erend to become his own standalone character
They never gave an option "sorry, I'm not gay"... it's still forced whether you choose love or not. Even if you reject if you visit Varl's grave she'll say something about maybe she should've went further.
It’s clear the relationship - or atl least Aloy being gay - will be canon going forward regardless of choice made here. In all three options she admits her feelings, she just doesn’t act on them in two of the options. To be clear I have ZERO issues with Aloy being a lesbian, but this relationship feels way too hurried with a character she barely knows and their only emotional connection is that they’re basically one and the same - similar background, same skills, same struggles with family and tribe, etc. I can think of at least two characters that would make for a more interesting lesbian romance for Aloy than Seyka (Petra and Talanah).
I think all options are valid. Saying this imo choosing the "love" ending doesn't fit Aloy personality. Since the beginning of the first game she's been fighting to save the world and always put her relationships with people 2nd place, despite making some friends. I chose "reject I'm not ready for this" because I really think that is what Aloy thinks, with the future Nemesis problem and all, she still needs to figure out how to deal with that huge problem. I'll give a quick example, in Tlou Ellie being gay is a huge part of her, it defines her and being that way makes the game way better. In HZD and HFW I don't feel that Aloy being in a relationship adds to the story, it doesn't enrich the story so to speak. With this being said, I don't see why not after the eventual 3rd game she couldn't start a relationship with a woman after all the problems are dealt with. But that's my opinion, and I do genuinely think that all opinions are valid. (Sorry if I made some typos as English is not my first language)
I feel like this is the point. It feels a bit fast, but I feel like it's the most fitting even tho I don't understand why it had to be with Seyka, she's only known her for a very brief amount of time. I have felt the way Aloy feels, feeling like attraction is a burden and is only making things harder in life, and letting go of that mentality is very freeing, unexplainable.
I disagree. Ellie being gay isn't that big a part of her, and the love ending here isn't even a big deal. Aloy leaves her anyway. She still puts Seyka in second place.
Being gay/not straight doesn't have to be anymore character defining than being straight does. Aloy after all wouldn't put any special significance upon it because her world has so far been depicted as not homophobic. Ellie to some extent still lives in a world with our modern prejudice, so it's more influential in the way she approaches life. The important part here, is not her sexuality, but her opening up to somebody even in a romantic way. To some extent all the options allow for Aloy to acknowledge her growth in this area, one is merely more growth than the others. HFW was ultimately, and patently about Aloy opening herself up to relationships-a rejection of Elisabet who closed herself off to true relationships with anybody. At the start of the game she runs away from her friends and rejects their attempts to help her. By the end, she let's them help her on missions and accepts Beta as family.
@@highrepublic2056 I do agree with you. I'm not saying a gay character is a better or a more profound character than a straight one. I only think it's a bit rushed this love option. As far as we know Aloy never had a intimate relationship with anyone. Like you wrote, it took the entire game for Aloy to let her friends and Beta help her on her mission. I do think though that the sexual orientation of a person can define said person, for better or worse.
I didn't really felt the chemistry between these two, although I already knew aloy might be lesbian, I thought aloy was more asexual and always puts her obligations before her personal desires, considering how much is in her shoulders
the music, the voice acting, the animations, the eyes, you can see the emotion in their eyes.... no matter what choice is selected, is all so heartfelt. Guerrilla is amazing.
@@wMNWw first of all people don't Necessarily need this propaganda to be them self. Especially in this video game. Second: they is a way to do it and not just randomly making them gay. Third: not all people will accept this propaganda, there is others way to tell people to be themselves and they are sometimes better than this.
to me this means that if seyka is going to be in a future game (probably the next since I don't expect a fourth game) that their interactions will be awkward but also straight forward. well at least at first. It would be super wierd if seyka and aloy would suddenly kiss in their first few interaction if she got rejected.
Funny how the focus for many here is that she's lesbian (assuming you choose to accept) and not that, as a character, she's possibly found the ability to really care about someone. Besides, Aloy could have professed love for Avad, so this idea that's she's lesbian, bi or straight is completely up to the player. Guerilla is NOT imposing any gender preference or non-preference on Aloy. My personal choice was to have her suggest that she's not ready, that's just my Aloy. Yes, she's grown to accept others into her life more and more, finding deeper connections in friendships, but the ultimate relationship still eludes her, especially since her "mission" is not done.
The DLC was good that horus fight was crazy. But I chose the love option but the I'm not ready for this option is and does make more sense. Because she's been fighting her whole life and trying to stop the threat. And now she's making friends and more this is the first time For everything, I wish I could go back. But it does make sense more sense to pick the I'm not ready for this option.
To me they made the crush feel natural. I do think something interesting to note is that we expect in media for a character to have some sort of long development before we see a romantic interest. However, in real life people often get crushes while knowing very little about each other. I know it’s not as deep as people would like but I think Aloy saw a pretty,badass girl near her age and developed a sort of crush on her. People don’t see it. Aloy is nervous and anxious around somebody for the first time and is not completely sure why. People don’t always fall in love with the people they spent the most time around. So, it’s interesting to me to see people calling this “forced” when this is a completely natural development. I think they did a good job, particularly Aloy’s voice actress.
i find it weird people ship aloy with avad lol. man literally is like 'you remind me of my dead lover, lets go out?' like that's a healthy way to start a romance. erend i just never felt had any chemistry with aloy. yes, he likes her a lot, but there's been nothing to indicate she sees him that way like....at all. there are definitely other characters i could see aloy with (kotallo, nil, talanah, and petra all seemed like strong options, although some got more chances than others) and im fine if the game decides to offer all charas as romance options to the player in the third/final? game, but to see some of these comments insist that aloy was meant for avad or erend is so....bizzare. unlike other games where you romance characters, the main lead has a personality and so some just don't fit as well as others do.
Seykas story parallels aloy, seyka is a very strong and capable warrior who feels isolated from her tribe and finds tribal customs constantly get in the way of her achieving good things, she also had a rough upbringing like Aloy. Aloy has shown similar interest in characters that have similar pasts, for example in talanah Aloy sorta behaves the same way, giving lots of compliments and showing admiration. But talanah didn't reciprocate the same interest while seyka did. So I don't think it was forced, I think it makes sense given her character
What’s the problem when two souls comes together? Schocking, schocking yourself if you can’t accept the differences. You are not forced to do the same ❤ but you can.
Because this is how people with emotional intelligence try to act in real life - even if it's a hard no, we don't *want* to shut someone down hard and brutally, as we know the pain it'll cause them. So nice people try and do it gently. Even if that means having to put up with a lingering crush you don't really want to have to deal with.
@@Mububban23 its some random person she found and was around for only 15 hours of gameplay, and canonically the time she was there wasnt even that damn long. in twdg you can choose to have a romance or not and choose who it is, so you can choose to be straight. not give maybes all the damn time. this isnt emotional intelligence this is just bs
Ya know I'd be more shocked if Aloy was heterosexual and kissed a dude. This forced woke gay propaganda doesn't even surprise me anymore. But it's Guerilla a woke 1st party SONY studio. It's like no game devs, besides from Japan or Korea maybe, has the balls to make a hetrosexual attractive real biological female character. Hope Stellar Blade is good.
Aloy should have hooked with Varl or the Sun king earlier. Even Sylens showed that he can have a change of heart after the horus was defeated....intelectually he could have been a better fit for Alloy
Took the rejection option, for the exact reason Aloy gave lol. Aloy seems like too much of this freak of nature super soldier to have room for any serious relationship
Even as a choice i would have rather they had kept Aloy as asexual knowing how she avoided *ALL* romantic advances up until she got to LA (go figure) its REALLY weird she somehow falls in love with someone after barely knowing them for a few hours, maybe a day or two Hell, id rather it have been Talanah if they REALLY wanted to do that but eh
I love the fact it’s not out of the blue like they were flirting the whole time (“miss me?” “Haha, let’s go” and stuff) but also that none of the reactions are “no I don’t like girls” LIKE HELLO?? I’m so happy with this I love this game sm
"I'm not ready for this" is the canon ending. The dlc is fantastic but the forced romance was daft. I love the Horizon series but this wasn't it Guerilla
I don’t know how I feel about this. They’re both VERY similar in character, except I find Seyka complains and get’s angry about things happening, and expects Aloy to lead her and fix everything. It’s very rushed, and I don’t think we will be able to choose another relationship from the main game. They’ve stated Aloy is gay, and in each wheel option it’s obvious Aloy has very strong feelings over Seyka so..it’s going to be difficult to steer around that. I’m sad though, because I was Aloy/Avad all the way. They could have grown and learnt so much from each other.
Aloy isn’t really into men romantically, nor was Elizabet. Avad was kind of a boring character. I really liked seeing Aloy grow in her personal relationships in this game.
@@markhubenthal what was Aloy supposed to do with Avad in the future? Live in a big castle constantly protect him? She would be bored out of her mind there. She needs someone fun and adventurous and Avad was never it. I found when Seyka and Aloy saw a machine sometimes Seyka would start fighting them before I was even ready. None of the other NPC’s would do that they would always wait for Aloy.
@@Michelle-ep3mi yeah, I never said I liked Avad or that Aloy should be romantically involved with him. I said he was boring. Perhaps you replied to the wrong post. I like the Aloy Seyka relationship. Even before the final scene with her, if you sat down at Varl’s grave she admits she really likes Seyka. And many hints of her feelings were sprinkled throughout the game that imply her feelings. So I figured it’s best to choose the option that it seems the writers intended, which is Aloy kissing Seyka.
@@markhubenthal I was agreeing with you. And was continuing on from what you were saying about Avad. That she would be bored out of her mind with him. Btw thanks for the info about Varls grave, I don’t know about that. I’m on team Aloy and Seyka it’s so cute those two. And I’m happy Aloy has found someone.
The dialogue definitely leans into accepting her offer. Still, I just can't help but feel like Aloy works better as a character when she stays single, politely turning down any offers. & besides, I'd honestly rather see her be with someone she's spent more time with & has more chemistry with, whether that be Seyka or someone else. I felt like them jumping into a relationship like this was just way too fast. It didn't feel natural. Just my humble opinion. I'd also prefer to see her with someone who's been a part of the series from the beginning, like Avad or Erend, although I don't think Erend really fits the bill. Sun King Avad kind of makes the most sense imo. They would form one helluva team as King & Queen.
@@joebejjani3579 I don't mind who is better all I'm saying is there should be more options. If your going to somehow put a romance with someone from a DLC at least have a romance with the people in the actual game.
They dug a deep hole with this......... They got review bombed and the next game must have multiple routes or even multiple endings just to damage control this
@@joebejjani3579 This right here, honestly ALL the possible love interests are cringe as all hell, and had they stuck to thier guns and simply left the romance out entirely, it would have been a much better reaction. Now people are going to be a lot more reluctant to stick with series. Example: Remember Metroid: Other M? Same sh!t all over again here just way worse.
I chose the "Reject" option, aka "Nice try woke Devs for trying to force this lesbian relationship into the plot. I Alloy, was raised and taught by a strong father-like figure, Rost. I don't have a mental disorder, I'm into dudes as all girls are meant to do. I'm trying to save the world and repopulate it. Can't do that by being a lesbo".
Aloy deserves love! Allow her to express her love with Another badass huntress and make a power couple you know it'll be cannon in the sequel! It's the only way! Test tube babies deserve love too!!
But why don't we have such a decision with Erend, it would be better, I don't like how lgbt has to be everywhere and everything is always horrible because of them like with last of us 2, its not fun guys.
The love story feels forced thats why i love that they made my choice that im not ready. Seyka is not a charismatic person, she doesnt really bring a lot to the table.