Alpha Labs - Does a Bad Network Switch RUIN your streamer? 

Always appreciate the effort that goes into your videos thanks

That's why I use to my source (streamer) optical fiber and don't have to use "audiophile switches" :). Great job like the rest of the videos!!!

Amir will be having more sleepless nights after this.

Jaap, can you please test what those little lan-isolators from iFI or Pink Faun do in that scenario + also the question is an optical network the way to go (yet there are no streamers as far as I know with optical network input)?

Wat is nou het beste mbt het aansluiten van de mantel? Beide kanten of alleen de bronzijde aansluiten?

Love your videos man! Already subscribed. Question - if physical LAN connection can inject noise then why not use only wifi? I'll be grateful for your response.

Excelent videos as always - ultimately becoming very, very interesting. In two words : Great - thank you. As a take II, any plan to test different cat /brand cables, eventually Ifi lan silencer?

Very interesting and value information. I am looking for some shielded cables. Bit how do I know if my switch is good or bad. I use basic netgear switches. I dont have scope.

So what switch to buy, or I can just get decent Netgear/D Link with LPSU? What about LAN galvanic isolators, would the help here?

Does it really affect the analog XLR output to amps and the output from amp to speakers so it really is hearable? undependet of say and stereo costing €2500 and upwards in eternity.

Excellent video - thank you!

Ok..but when out trough a DAC ..playing music can you hear the difference between a “higher end switch “ and a regular ( industrial) switch 🤔

What is a switch? I have a full fibre router less than a year old and a galvanic bridge on my ethernet cable. Is a switch another thing you add to the ethernet line? If so is it only something you need if your router is not the best? I am within a few weeks of spending another £1400 on a streamer, a linear power supply and cables but I thought that was it, don.

I really like your measurement, very helpfull!! In comparison with Amir's measurements, it shows it should be done from two angles! As some people said, it's not Amir not right or you have the answer, BUT it needs a combination of several measurepoints and therefore I prefer your approach!! Keep going, will definitely support your channel! Thanks a lot!

Very interesting as always, thank you! Is there any future plan to test the influence of different routers?

Are you saying a digital signal is influenced by noise? If so you are simply wrong (onzin). Imagine software transferred via a switch from one pc to another, one changed bit would make the software unusable. That is why we have things like CRC, we simply send the data including timing info again if we detect a fail, that has been the case for cd players for a while and for computers it was always the case.

Very nice now measure the output of a dac so we can all see how huge impact it makes, right?

Just to clarify, 100ps of jitter is 0.0000000001second peak-to peak change, which then goes through a DAC anti jitter circuit and a PLL lock in which will pretty much intergrate this intto something an awful lot less. Nice measurements, but lack context.

Sommige zweren bij 2 of zelfs meerdere switchen in serie. Jullie dit als eens getest? Wel interessant namelijk om dit te onderbouwen

thank you!

The Fix List!!! 1. Ferrite Beads on that network cable 2. Galvanic Isolation on the port 3 . Power the switch with a clean linear source. (The circuit are built with a variance to manage noise) A more complete test would verify any true effect confirming change from input to output

Thank you for yet another informative video. Your finding of measurement changes is very useful to know. I have experienced the sound differences with better switches, but the naysayers are already out and about by the looks of it. No matter what comments you get your work is valued :)

All of that isn't important. The signal on the network does not care for the noise etc. This means the dac and clock shouldn't care either. If any of those parts are influenced by the noise on the network your problem is not the network but the dac (and clock). I know the expensive dacs are almost holy parts in the setup but they are goldmines for company's. In reality they are so cheaply build they can be influenced by noise on the network. With a good dac (even cheap ones) this isn't the case. A good dac has no problem with almost any level of noise on the network. As long as the digital signal can be read and the handshake still works there should be no issue. And if it fails your music pauses or totally stops playing but it will not decrease in quality, there is no loss of bass or space or whatever, it will just stop. So throw away that dac, buy a good one and be done with it.

Beste, niet direct een vraag over het netwerk maar wat is jouw idee over het volgende. Als je moet kiezen tussen een stream van AAC 128 kb/s of MP3 320 kb/s welke is volgens jou de beste kwaliteit? Met vriendelijke groeten, Danny.

That’s why Fiber media convertors are your friend. Keep all that junk away from your dac.

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Now everybody who can hear the difference between 9 and 10ps of jitter, please raise your hands. Thank you, now the ones that can hear the difference between -120 and -130db of noise. Thank you again. Btw, doubly shielded Cat6 ethernet cable is a few cents per meter terminated and you can get very well implemented switches with properly galvanically isolated ports (as per the Ethernet standard) starting at $30 or less.

No it does not.