I was able to increase the lifetime of my Lone Peak 4 with a simple hack: when the lateral mesh would tear up, I would seal the hole with some thread and then apply some Seamgrip (a glue that is commonly used to fix tents) to seal the area. That was effective for some time but they eventually died after ~ 800 km when the mesh started dismantling from the midsole.
I'm a fraction behind you as my Altras Lone Peak 5 arrived at Christmas whoopee .... but still not had try to strain in them yet.... but to keep you posted I live in a Pair of Brooks Ghost 14 and the soil is ready for trail shoes #Altra #ALP5 #BrooksGhost 13
Just bought the yellow pair, putting them to the test this weekend in Colorado! Also if you call altra they have a 500 mile warranty on all shoes and you just send that pair in then get a new one on them!
Nice! I actually did get a replacement pair of Escalante's from Altra under warranty before. Unfortunately the same wear pattern happened again at 300 miles. These lone peak 5.0's are still hanging in there though. Time will tell! Thanks for watching enjoy the shoes!
I've owned 6 pairs of the Lone Peak 3.5's over the years and was about to move to the Timp's or possibly the Olympus', due to the relatively low durability of the Lone Peak's 3.5. With the addition of the new EGO midsole, I will give the Lone Peak 5 a whirl and see how the durability holds up in comparison to my very old 3.5 models. Thanks again for the thorough and informative review, appreciate it.
Just picked up a pair of these for my fiancé. She is using them to for her hike/runs with our new pup up in the foothills around our house! She’s loving them!
I just picked up a pair of these in the the extra wide (4E) size, which I think might be a new option on LP5 (my first ever pair of Altras) and they fit my "Fred Flinstone" feet perfectly :) I wish they offered the 4E option on their road shoes because I'd definitely buy a pair of those too. I tried a pair of Altra Superiors in regular size 11 a few months ago and they felt way too narrow for my feet so I haven't even bothered to try any of their other regular size shoes.
@@ChaseTheSummit Cool, thanks for the heads up! I just checked their website and I do see there is a wide sizing option for the Torin 5 but looks like none of them are actually available so maybe they are coming soon and I will keep an eye out for them.
I ordered these on Sunday and they come tomorrow! Sorry I didn't get your affiliate link in time to help you out. I'm subscribed with a bell though so I'll eventually use one of those links. 😊
Another big update that I don’t know if you caught or not but Altra is offering these in regular and wide sizes for the first time as well. Great video!
Yeah that's awesome! Too bad it's limited colors. Another thing I noticed recently is that they stitched the toe rubber to the shoe. Hopefully this means it won't peal immediately like the older ones!
Great video. I'm absolutely loving mine. I'm hoping (and also confident *crosses fingers) that the ego will hold up well. I've had multiple pairs of escalates, and the ego technology always performed very well.
You should put some boot gaurd liquid rubber on that wear spot. Before they fail 5.0 Best shoe ever they last I got 2 years on mine I land mid foot and starting to see some wear after 2 years
I added trails last year to my running. I'm not sure if it's because the trails I ran aren't that technical, but I ran them in my normal Mizuno road shoes. I was thinking of making an investment into trail shoes since I really enjoyed the trails (more than the road). Thanks for the video
Nothing wrong with that! If they're working stick with them! I'd only upgrade to a trail shoe if you find lack of traction on steeper/wet sections or find that durability of your road shoe is wearing out fast. Typically trail shoes have a more durable upper. Thanks for watching!
Since everyone always talks about how a person might need to transition before hopping into a zero drop shoe, why doesn’t Altra make that transition shoe? I get it, they currently only make a zero drop shoe and that’s their thing, but why not have a 4mm drop Altra Transition or something like that? There’s a lot of people curious about the brand who are instantly turned away otherwise.
That’s an interesting idea. The “Altra Transition” would be a cool name too 😂 . What about a heel lift insert that they could ship with their shoes that you use temporarily? Thanks for watching Mike!
Can't wait for your review on these one Kofuzi 🙏 pls review the Mach 4. I started in 4mm Kinvara and felt great transition into escalante. But I have got injury when I used 4mm drop in my rotation together with Altra Torin n escalante. It seemed I better stay in zero drop shoe for long time and ease my way back to no more than 5mm drop, it work for me.
Before watching, I thought, " I wonder if Altra ever fixed their durability issues with early Lone Peaks". After watching, I guess not. That spot at the toe has been an issue they've known about for years.
@@ChaseTheSummit I found that the issue happens with tighter shoes. It seems to be the pinky actually putting pressure in that spot. I've switched to a half size up and the issue has gone away with my current pair. Have put 350miles on them now.
I bought the Altra Paradigm 5 for road work (I'm a moderate over-pronator). Loved them, but they were shot at about 300-350 miles. I bought the LP 5 last week for hiking. I haven't been hiking in them yet, but they feel super comfortable breaking them in around town.We'll see.
@@ChaseTheSummit The Paradigm 5's sole wore quickly and has large smooth spots in the impact areas. Also the stabilization "rails?" on the side, which worked great initially, began to dig into the side of my foot at the end.
Very good reveiw. Looking forward to see how they wear. I went over to Inov-8 last year due to the midsole, and look what Altra does with this update. Damn you, Altra!
@@plain-bagel No, I have not. It really depends on the conditions you use the shoes in. I live in Western Norway where it rains 200+ days a year and Inov-8 might have "the world's toughest grip", but they do not have the world's best grip. I have had the Terraultra G270 for a while now and they really excel on gravel roads and dry trails, but I have had some spectacular slips and tumbles with them on wet rock. For those conditions I still prefer the LP's and the King MT2. People I have talked to recommend the Roclite G 275, but I think I will stick to LP's and MT2's for a while. I really like zero drop shoes.
My Timps and Torins got holes in that exact same spot as your LP 4.5. And both developed holes in the toe area . The quality of the Altras has declined considerably since I first started using them. I have switched to Topo shoes and they seem to be much more durable.
I used to be an Altra fan until they literally cut out the "foot-shape" and totally defeats the purpose, when I can buy Brooks or New Balance for the same price
I think they still have it but it definitely got more narrow over the years. That said, they still fit my feet really well. I just wish they'd last longer! Hopeful for these 5.0's! Thanks for watching.
Have you thought about trying out the new Lone Peak in the Wide width so you don't blow out the upper by your 5th metatarsal head like you have on every previous Lone Peak? A shoe fitter who knew plenty about running shoes and the fit would suggest you try it out to see if that will stop the problem.
I've been super curious about altra trail shoes lately. My trail rotation is the saucony mad river tr and the saucony peregrine 10, both 4mm drop, so not too far off. The mad rivers have a beautiful amount of comfy room throughout the shoe and is the most comfortable shoe I have ever put my foot in (I have the version 1). This is what made me start to look at altra trail shoes, as they are known for that wide toe box and "roomy" fit. The durability issues you experience makes me weary though. My mad rivers have at least 400 miles on them, have a ton of life left and they are better than when they were new. The peregrine's have maybe 100 on them, but are wearing like a tank, they still look like they came out of the box, including the outsole!
@@ChaseTheSummit I've been curious about the rumored wider toe box of the altras. I like that. I run kitchens for a living and may try to pick up a pair of their road shoes, if I can find them cheap for that zero drop on my calves all day at work.
Nice review, as usual! "Unfortunately" i just got myself a fresh pair of Asics Gel-Cumulus 22 and a pair of Asics Gel-Cumulus 22 G-TX for the season. I think those have quiet a bit of Drop. In addition i´m a little hesitant to change a running system. Those Asics fit my feet like they´re made especially for me :) - Might give those Altra Lone Peak´s a shot in the next season tho.
Use what works! Asics makes good stuff too. I want to start to brand out of my little zero drop bubble and try other brands I'm just afraid of injury if I start using a high drop! Thanks for watching and for the support Marius!
I've never tried Altra before, the zero drop has been a little off putting for me. I might give these a go & add a small heel raise to ease myself in, I do have some zero drop shoes but just prefer a slightly higher drop for myself. Great detailed review, you are selling them to me 👍🏃
I've thought about this before. It would be cool if Altra shipped their shoes with a little heel shim to allow people to adapt to the zero drop platform. That said, zero drop isn't for everyone. Thanks for watching!
That's funny. I filmed the B-Roll of the scale after the fact. So it appears it weighed .2 ounces heavier the second time I weighed it. Maybe it absorbed some moisture or something... Thanks for pointing that out.
I have about 100 miles on the LP 5.0 and they've been awesome so far. The Ego midsole is really holding up, just like on the Escalante. Now Altra needs to ditch the flipper, address the area that seems to blow out for a lot of people, use a slightly stiffer/more resilient outsole and bring back the old WIDE toe box. It would be the perfect Lone Peak for many people. Then.... They would change it :-(
@@ChaseTheSummit yeah that’s why I ordered them and also i never run with zero drop so i will try them before buying the version 5. Did you review the Olympus 4.0?
Im a new Altra fanboy, today came in altra torin 4,5 plush, shoes looks soo awsom, cant wait to test them, most of the time I ran on roads, but maybe someday I will have oportunity to test trail type, :D
I loved everything about my timp2.0s but the upper just shredded after 300k :( as a result, I picked up some speedgoats instead of another pair of timps and they're still goin strong. Unfortunately, they just dont compete in comfort and lockdown.
I like the styling of Altras but when I tried a pair on in the store I feel like you have to have duck feet for them to fit right. They just seemed oddly shaped and wide in the front foot area. I’m not sure if it was just the pair I tried or if all Altras are shaped the same.
If everyone wore foot shaped shoes (or no shoes at all) when they were growing up, then everyone would have normal shaped feet. The problem is that all of us have been wearing shoes that crush our toes together when we were kids so our feet grow like that and stay like that when we are adults. So unfortunately normal shaped feet are actually very rare to have. Altra shoes are made for normal shaped feet. I have close to normal shaped feet I think possibly because growing up my dad would always get shoes a size or two bigger than my true size was so we would save money on shoes. I also did a lot of martial arts so I was was doing lot of barefoot training. So all my toes grew with normal toe splay except for my pinky toe because even sized up shoes were still pretty narrow. My pinky toes are my only toes that rub against the side of the shoe and the toe next to it. Altra shoes (and Lems) are the only shoes I can wear that won't cause me to develop calluses on my pinky toes.
Great review Dave and really enjoyed the info supplied. I've been an avid Salomon wearer but looking at changing to Altra lone peak . I am finding the Salomons on long runs tight as my feet tend to swell. What are the ultras like in foot width?? I need a shoe which is going to be comfortable for 15 to 20 hrs. Also noticed but one of comments you said you have wide feet, so would you normally wear a 2e??
Altras run wiiiiide. Much wider than Salomons even in non-wide sizing. This can be good or bad... In my case good because I can't get my feet to fit inside of Salomons. I'd suggest trying them on or buying from an easy place to return!
I've been wanting to give Altra a try, but how can these be one of your favorites when they feel dead after only 50-100 miles. That seems like a deal breaker for me. There are some good sales right now on the 4.5, but don't know if it's worth it.
That was the previous About mid sole. The new EGO midsole will last much longer and that's the big feature of the 5.0's. This midsole has been in the Escalante road shoe for a couple of years and people really love it (including myself) so I have high hopes for the Lone Peak 5.0's. That said, I've also run 100 milers in the 4.0 and 4.5 and didn't have blisters at the finish line. So, I just keep buying them because they just WORK for me. Thanks for watching!
I have the lp 4.0 with about 250 miles and the shoe feels so good on your feet and you connect with the ground so well that it was worth the bad midsole. Now they have the new midsole so it is just a plus for lp fans.
I'm really curious to check these out. I've been running/hiking in Lone Peaks since the 1.0s but, due to the lack of cushion I switched to the Timp 2.0 this last time around because I do run road as well and the lone abound just ended up feeling as you described. I have the escalates as well and like them so I hope this means I can go back to the Lone Peak as my everything shoe again.
Hey dude, great review! Unfortunately, the LP5 is not available in Germany yet, and my wife may divorce me if I get even more running shoes. It's people like you that are encouraging me for starting my own YT channel - still very much amateurish - but you're a source of creativity. Share the love, got any tips for me?
Awesome! The hardest part about starting my channel was really getting over that "imposter syndrome" and being afraid to put my face on the internet. Once I got through the first dozen or so videos it started to feel more natural. I'd say just start posting consistently and ride the wave! See what happens! Good Luck!
@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks dude, imposter syndrome is one hell of a B**. Looking at vids like yours really motivates me to do something about it and gets the vids rolling. Thanks for the encouraging words.
The heel feels a little more narrow but the forefoot is super wide as typical Altra's are. I'd try them on before jumping to conclusions if you're used to Altra shoes.
The specs on this shoe has me excited...BUT... I tried the Torin Plush 4.5's and they were slightly too narrow and the material that breaks across my big to was really uncomfortable. The Timp 1.5's that I have came apart at the seams on both shoes after 150 miles (and they weren't gnarly miles). So, my latest experience with Altra's haven't been great with fit and durability. Have you noticed this? How do the new Lone Peak's compare? Great video! Thanks for publishing it so quickly after the release of the shoe.
My TIMP 1.5 and my Lone Peak 4.5 both fell apart in under 300km just behind the toe cap on the outside edge where they meet the sole. Love the shoes, but the durability has been bad. I did put 600km on the Superior 4.5
Can we get a video on running gear like clothes, socks, raincoats/jackets for the different seasons? I never know what to wear for winter, rain, situations like that. I just have started getting a bit more serious with my running so it would be amazing to get some help.
@@ChaseTheSummit awesome! Amazing review I just got a garmin fenix 6 to replace my vivoactive 4 I figured it would let me do road running and when I get the chance to make it to the mountains I can use it there too with the maps!
My first pair of LPs were the 4.0s and they made me an Altra convert (love the Torin for a road shoe). However, the LP 4.5s had a horrible heel-rubbing problem and I had to return them. It was painful enough to be an absolute deal-breaker for me, and I saw a number of other reviews that mentioned the same thing. Ended up picking up another pair of 4.0s to hold me over. You mentioned less padding around the heel area of the 5.0s - would you say these are more similar to the 4.0s or the 4.5s in terms of the heel fit?
The heel fit is very similar to the 4.5's. It seems like the padding is just easier to compress and not actually thinner if that makes sense? So I'm able to get a more secure fit around my ankle/heel. For me, it's a good thing and I'm not getting any chafe/rubbing. Hope that helps!
I prefer the breathability of the regular version even in colder months. When the RSM version gets wet it stays wet and never dries out. Thanks for watching.
I was going to get these but I blew out the left foot by my baby toe just behind the toe cap in under 300km on my 4.5 just like you have. I’m not convinced that these are going to last any longer. Maybe even shorter.
I've had the issue on every pair since the LP 2.0 I think. Fingers crossed the 5.0's last longer but I'll be sure to update the video if they die early. Thanks for watching.
The fit is very similar so if you experienced rubbing you likely would in the 5.0's. For me, I never had issues with the 4.5's and ran several ultras with them without blisters. Thanks for watching!
I went to try these on at the weekend. So excited, but for me there was this constant 'toe pop' when I stepped forward. The canvas above the toe was digging down into my foot (where foot becomes toes) and then would pop back. Tired 3 different sizes - 1 up and 1 down - same for each. Did anyone else have that? My next shoe needs to be for a 200 mile thru hike so I can't cope with something like that every step!
Actually at 2:52 you can see exactly where the shoe canvas bends above the towline. The line of bend was digging into my foot and the 'popping' up again when I stepped forward. I just couldn't take it.
Haha "look cool" they used to look like clown shoes! I have really weird feet my forefoot is super wide by my heel is kind of narrow. Altra's fit like a glove. I'm scared to try anything else! I just wish they didn't fall apart after 2-3 months of use. I've heard good things about those Topos! How's the durability? Thanks for watching and for the support Brice!
@@ChaseTheSummit They've held up quite well. My one complaint is that there isn't a place to hook the gaiters on the top of the shoe, you have to use the laces. Which seems to defeat the purpose. Otherwise a great shoe!
It feels VERY similar to me but maybe just a smidge narrower? I think it's actually the volume of the shoe rather than width. Everything feels just a bit more tight but in a good way. The 4.5's felt a little loose on occasion. Thanks for watching!
I'm trying to decide between the regular and all weather ones for backpacking in the Pacific Northwest. Any thoughts on this? I'm not sure if the waterproof ones will get too sweaty on hot days but I've heard the new material they're using is pretty good.
I really like the regular version because they tend to drain/dry much quicker. But if you're going to be on snow a lot the AW version might be a good move. Hope that helps!
As I find the Superior to be a little too less cushioned for my heavy body, your great review makes me wanna try those LP5 ! Would you say that they are versatile enough to perform on "speed intervals" workout and regular longer runs as well ? Or are they too heavy for intervals ?
Hey man, great video. Could you say a few words about a comparison between the 3.5 and 5.0? I loved the 3.5, bought a few pairs but now running out of them. I bought the 4.0 a few years ago and it flattened out right away and didn't provide as much cushion as the 3.5s did. Is the 5.0 a little bit back to the 3.5?
They 5.0 gets the new EGO midsole which is the biggest upgrade and will provide cushion MUCH longer.. Other than that the 5.0's are a bit cleaner, less bulky in areas, and have improved drainage. Hope that haelps!
Great review. I ordered a pair a couple of weeks ago and waiting for them to come in. Is there a chance that yours have been blowing out on the lateral forefoot because you have a wider foot? I ordered the new wide version of the lone Peak 5.
I do have a wider foot but the shoe fits quite well and I don't have any pinch points or hot spots. I've run 100 mile races in Lone Peak 4.0's previously and didn't have any foot pain or blisters. That tells me it's the right shoe for me but the durability has been unfortunately not great. The 5.0's have held up great so far!
I love low stack height shoes but zero drop?!?! man, you need really to get use of it, it could be tough for your calf and tends. It looks light and responsive but on the other hand do you feel the stones with these shoes?
These actually still have a decent stack height at 25mm so there's substantial cushion and a rockplate to take up anything pointy. The Zero Drop relates to the difference in height from your heel to your forefoot. In typical running shoes the heel is usually elevated above the forefoot by 4-10mm depending on the model. In Altra shoes the heel and forefoot are on the same plane. Theoretically mimicking how humans were meant to run which is supposed to lead to less injury. How true is that? I'm not sure. But I do like the zero drop platform. Thanks for watching!
How do you think this compares to the Timps as far as the toe box width. I have a wide foot so I use the Timps 1.5. I am 72 so would like a smidge more cushion.. What do you suggest?
Very similar to the Timp int terms of fit. The only difference is a slightly thinner stack so less cushion and I believe the Lone Peak's have a more substantial stone guard.
I have a pair of Timp 2 , mid foot is rather tight for me. Is Altra Lone Peak 5 going to be the same ? Is the mid foot Altra Lone Peak the same construction as the Timp 2 ? Thanks for the video.
Mine started lifting a tad at the toe rubber after about ten miles. Other than that I've been loving them. I don't know if I should Freesole them closed or wait until they've lifted more so I can get a good seal with the adhesive.
Good news. They added a line of stitching through the toe rubber to prevent that from happening. I should have mentioned it in this video! Do you have the 5.0’s?
@@ChaseTheSummit I do! You just made my night. I had no idea that stitching was there and I was getting all kinds of anxious thinking I'd have to repair my shoe already! These are my first trail runners. Glad to know that I probably don't need to worry. Thank you!! 😁🙏
Cant decide between these lone peak 5's or the Olympus 4's. Does anyone have both? What's your take between them? I go mountain hiking and I run back down the mountain, some parts are pretty rocky. Which shoes would be best suited for me the lone peak 5's or Olympus 4's? Thanks and happy trails to all!
The Olympus 4's have a lot more cushion. For me, it's a bit too much for my trails. I feel unstable on such a high stack height. But for more groomed trails that are less rocky/rooty they're probably pretty good. Thanks for watching!
I have exactly the same issues with the little toe. Have you tried the wide fit that’s been brought out with this shoe? Do you think that would solve the issue at all?
I feel like the wider fit might be TOO wide for my foot. Right now the shoes feel the right size. my foot never gets sore in that area the shoe simply isn't durable enough to scrape on rocks/brush etc... I suppose a wider size might help?
you say, after 500km (300miles), the 4.5 gets worn out / get torn on the outside? do they tear further? it seems to me pretty early to get broken at that spot. how long does the sole last approximately? I use Salewa Lite Train shoes with a Michelin sole. the studs last about 800km. the damages like you have at the Altra 4.5 start at about 1200km. but the fabric does not tear on so fast. so they last with some holes for about 1500 to 2000km with a flat sole. how does the Altra compare? in terms of price, you get in germany the Salewa shoe for 50 to 100 Eur. it is not the best shoe, but a good value actually.
The outsole LONG outlasts the upper material. My uppers always tend to rip through in the same area. I'm hopeful that the 5.0's last a bit longer. Thanks for watching.
Can you tell me anything about the size? I‘m using the Superior 3.5 and 4.0 and Escalante 2.0 in Size 10.5. Is the Lone Peak 5 smaller or the same size.
Saying it feels like they tightened up the heel and midfoot, have you tried these on any side hills? I bought a pair (I forget the model, 3.5 maybe) for an ultra in the mountains and I HATED them. My foot kept rolling and sliding into the corner / side of the shoe rather than the shoe fitting tight and running on the edge of it. I bought a pair of LaSportiva shoes since but for local trails I still do prefer the Altras and would go back to them.
They're definitely tighter fitting than the 3.5. The 3.5 had a bunch of padding around the heel cup (I still have a pair). These are still generally pretty wide shoes so if you have a narrow foot it might be too loose but I get no slip even on uneven trails. Thanks for watching!
I never tried the 3.5 but found the 4 and 4.5 to have similar stability issues with side-hilling and in technical rocky, rooty terrain. It wasn't about fit for me since i have a wide foot. It's that the shoes don't have enough structure to them with their ultra-flexible upper which does not hold the foot securely & so leads to sliding into the corner, combined with the ultra-flexible midsole which gets wobbly on uneven terrain, made them feel downright dangerous to me. I can't take them seriously as a mountain shoe because of this. Not trying to roll an ankle here. It's good to hear the 5s may be better about this but my optimism is cautious. If these don't work out, i'll have to find another brand. Topo, maybe. Saucony also has low drop trail shoes.
@@bluefirephoenix347 I have the Bushido 2 for the next one I do now, on the trails around my area they feel good but I get a hot spot that seems to go away after a few runs, build a callous maybe.. yet to try in the mountains. I've been finding it suprisingly hard to find the right shoe.. and expensive haha
@@scottbrown4928 I hear you. I don't have much of a budget for it so i look to buy from companies that have a good return policy/risk free trial so i can test them outside. I also look for discontinued models on clearance and buy retail returns or very lightly used shoes off of ebay sometimes. Most ebay sellers accept returns. But maybe the Bushidos will work out and you can stop your search!
The 5.0's feel a tiny bit snugger in the heel than compared to my 4.5's but it's not a huge difference. They hold my heel quite well. I get no lift, and no side to side play. Your mileage might vary since we all have different feet! But I'm digging them so far.
If you know altra sizing they're the same as most other models. When comparing to other brands I find them similar in length to Salomon and Hoka but those brands are much narrower.
