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Aluminum Furnace Upgrade 

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Here I test out my new propane furnace, a significant upgrade to my Very Simple furnace and mini furnace seen in previous videos. I've tested this one capable of melting up to copper, so far. I also throw in some bonus footage of the Leidenfrost effect!
Link to the furnace on Amazon: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
Link to my review: www.amazon.com/gp/customer-re...

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@SafetyLucas
@SafetyLucas 6 лет назад
Awww man! Building the furnace is half the fun!
@ohraa1
@ohraa1 6 лет назад
Let your spoon heat in the Al for a couple seconds to help it not stick to the spoon
@j_sum1
@j_sum1 6 лет назад
Great to see another video. Looking forward to watching this one.
@helicorn7902
@helicorn7902 6 лет назад
Waited for 4 years. Finally!
@joetri1970
@joetri1970 6 лет назад
Wouldn't have Been easier to just sit the pan on top of the furnace for a minute to burn it off.
@FrugalGarden
@FrugalGarden 6 лет назад
I like your videos and glad that you are back
@j_sum1
@j_sum1 6 лет назад
Al conducts heat very well and so its temperature profile while casting is comparatively flat. The result is that it freezes really suddenly at a high thickness. With cast steel you end up with a solid skin and molten interior. With Al it solidifies right to the core. This makes pouring etc more difficult. You need a significant overheat to handle it easily.
@KowboyUSA
@KowboyUSA 6 лет назад
Nice little furnace.
@rakinkazi9780
@rakinkazi9780 6 лет назад
YAY NEW VIDEO!
@CitizenKaneNZ
@CitizenKaneNZ 6 лет назад
When I did a bit of this I had real problems with using soda cans. Instead I got scrap extrusion aluminium from wrecked engine blocks very very cheaply. Mixing some of that in might help fill out the muffin pans. You could possibly pre-burn the paint and plastic liner in an oven or barbecue which would reduce bubbling from hot gases, helping to keep the surface area down.
@stamasd8500
@stamasd8500 6 лет назад
Based on my experience (I recently built a very similar furnace and am melting with it aluminum, copper and making aluminum bronze and tin bronze) I see a couple of problems with your equipment. It doesn't appear that the bottom of your furnace is covered with insulation. Also the kaowool performs much better if it's covered by another refractory layer. In my build I used 2400-degree rated kaowool (1 inch) which I then covered with 2 layers of a refractory clay called satanite (rated for 3200F). I mixed the satanite with water to the consistency of thick sour cream then brushed it on the surface of the kaowool about 1/4inch thick, let it dry for 1 day, warmed the whole furnace with a heat gun inserted through the burner orifice for about 30 minutes until it was nice and toasty to cure the first layer. After it cooled down I applied a second layer then dried and cured it the same way. It is holding together beautifully. I have done about 10 runs with it melting copper and making bronze at temperatures above 1100 degrees Celsius and there isn't even one crack in the coating. Uncoated kaowool will begin to melt at the surface and sag after a few runs. Not to mention put out small ceramic fragments in the air that you breathe. Don't forget that the lid needs to be coated too of you decide to do it (which I highly recommend). I have also coated the exterior of some of my clay graphite crucibles with 2 layers of satanite. Compared to uncoated crucibles, the coated ones are holding together much better. Use a flux when melting metal. For copper and bronze, borax works best at about 1 teaspoon per pound. For aluminum I use a 1:1 molar mix of NaCl and KCl (58.5g NaCl and 74.5g KCl). The mixed salts form an eutectic with a lower melting point than either, at about 600 degrees C which is just below the MP of aluminum; it will make the dross easier to manage. And you do get a lot of dross from cans. Lately I've been melting mostly pieces of cast aluminum and get far less dross from that. (Edit) I've looked at the pictures on Amazon and the bottom is insulated. It just looks in the video like it's bare. Maybe it's because I watched it on my phone instead of a computer.
@mrhomescientist
@mrhomescientist 6 лет назад
Thanks a lot for taking the time to write such a detailed comment! Lots to think about. I will definitely try fluxing it, and others have suggested degassing as well.
@stamasd8500
@stamasd8500 6 лет назад
mrhomescientist you're welcome. Fluxing is very helpful, not sure about degassing. I just give the melt a good stir. You would need a refractory pipe to inject nitrogen and it would need to be under very well controlled pressure to avoid splashing molten metal everywhere. Stirring is good enough for me and in fact it's required when making alloys or else the metals may segregate in layers by density. Cooling ingots in water is fun but don't do it when you try to cast objects. Aluminum and bronzes have quite a bit of contraction when cooled and you will end up with voids inside the objects. You want a slow and gradual cooling as well as a reservoir of molten metal ("runner") located outside the object in the mold so you can feed more molten metal to your cast as it cools. I don't have videos of my own but look at videos by swdweeb to see how it's done and how to avoid defects.
@warrentb1
@warrentb1 6 лет назад
Flux and a degassing agent could help, a quick googling indicated 50% NaCl 50% KCl ("lite salt") for the flux and bubbling nitrogen through the melt for degassing. Apparently the burning propane and plastics will dissolve hydrogen into the aluminum.
@handlebullshit
@handlebullshit 6 лет назад
Some tips: Keep the tabs on the cans. Heat your spoon/drossscraper before you scrape to waste less Aluminium. Just stick it in the pot and let it sit for a litte while before scooping the dross out. Keep the temp up for easier pouring.
@SomeMorganSomewhere
@SomeMorganSomewhere 6 лет назад
Drinks cans are pretty much the worst possible source of aluminium for casting (as you've found :) ), the coatings are a significant part of the weight and the mostly pure aluminium shrinks a lot when it cools. You're best to use cast aluminium, e.g. transmission casings, engine parts, etc.. They are relatively high-silicon alloys which leads to much less shrinkage. It's easy enough to break those down, throw them in a fire for a bit then hit them with a sledge hammer, they'll basically shatter into small pieces due to hot shortness. If you're serious about casting, I'd recommend spending some time at Alloy Avenue, there is a huge amount of experience with home foundry stuff on tap there.
@mrhomescientist
@mrhomescientist 6 лет назад
Morgan Reed I'll check it out, thanks!
@jamesg1367
@jamesg1367 6 лет назад
I don't think you're oxidizing very much aluminum. The interior coating and the exterior paint comprise a significant fraction of the weight of each can. (That amount can probably be calculated fairly well by roasting a couple of cans by hand and weighing the material before and after.) I believe mechanical losses account for most of the unrecovered metal. I should think the dross and dregs could be re-melted and a goodly fraction of the aluminum drained from that mass by use of a steel mesh.
@cochbob
@cochbob 6 лет назад
Try a mini muffin pan for a better size
@Stormrunner0002
@Stormrunner0002 6 лет назад
Mini muffin tins.
@Ludvictv
@Ludvictv 5 лет назад
What is the method to refine the sludge of aluminum can?
@mrhomescientist
@mrhomescientist 5 лет назад
I've tried using salt as a flux to separate metal trapped in the dross; thay gets a little more out. But any Al that has oxidized is extremely difficult to refine back into Al at the hobby level. It requires a ton of energy and a lot of engineering.
@jonhoyles714
@jonhoyles714 6 лет назад
Adding some sort of flux to the mix would help borax or maybe some carbonate of some sort
@kidfudi3062
@kidfudi3062 6 лет назад
Hey man, just wanted to know if this is still working, really looking forward to getting one!
@kidfudi3062
@kidfudi3062 6 лет назад
Was the smaller one on amazon? I'm looking for a nice cheap furnace
@mrhomescientist
@mrhomescientist 6 лет назад
Yes, it works great! Very happy with the purchase. I got the smaller one on eBay actually. Look around for mini- or micro- propane furnaces.
@justcallmeshane4832
@justcallmeshane4832 4 года назад
Can it melt sand ?
@Spycyzygy
@Spycyzygy 6 лет назад
So I’ve got a bunch of aluminum muffins but I need powder Do you think I could somehow drill it down into turnings then use a ball mill or just sit for hours with a file
@robmckennie4203
@robmckennie4203 6 лет назад
Drilling and ball-milling would be better than filing, but what would be even better is if you have access to a lathe or milling machine
@robmckennie4203
@robmckennie4203 6 лет назад
I would almost bet that a filing a work piece in a vice removes material faster than filing on a lathe, letalone a makeshift drill lathe
@jfcrow1
@jfcrow1 6 лет назад
One word FLUX
@illuminaughty933
@illuminaughty933 6 лет назад
What’s the name of the effect where you can quickly stick your finger in something hot without being burned?
@muppzen
@muppzen 6 лет назад
Illuminaughty I believe it's due to the Leidenfrost effect.
@stamasd8500
@stamasd8500 6 лет назад
It's called OW OW OW TAKE ME TO THE DOCTOR NOW!!!
@illuminaughty933
@illuminaughty933 6 лет назад
muppzen Aha! I thought that was the same thing he was talking about. Thanks.
@fegolem
@fegolem 6 лет назад
What's wrong with the can tabs?
@AllChemystery
@AllChemystery 6 лет назад
He probably collects them to give to a friend of a friend who needs the high purity ring pulls to go towards a new wheelchair!
@mrhomescientist
@mrhomescientist 6 лет назад
I wondered if anyone would catch that. I've been collecting them for a future video where I dispel some soda can myths. There's a ton around just about the tabs!
@stamasd8500
@stamasd8500 6 лет назад
Fun fact: the tops of soda cans and the rest of the can are made of different grades of aluminum. IIRC the sides and bottom are of almost pure aluminum whereas the top is an alloy with manganese.
@mrhomescientist
@mrhomescientist 6 лет назад
Yep, I researched that a while back. I found that the body is 3104-H19 or 3004-H19, and the lid is 5182-H48. I believe the tab is the same as the lid, but haven't confirmed that. The body is 95-98% Al, with about 1% Mg or Mn. The lid is 93-96% Al with 4-5% Mg.
@thecatalog7188
@thecatalog7188 6 лет назад
You could try melting cast iron
@sunnyd8585
@sunnyd8585 4 года назад
I think aluminum foil would have been a better source of aluminum.
@higoten1993
@higoten1993 6 лет назад
use borax as an flux to bring out more impurities
@warrentb1
@warrentb1 6 лет назад
I hear borax should NOT be used with Al because the B will react with it to form undesirable compounds.
@FrugalGarden
@FrugalGarden 6 лет назад
First
@blubb7711
@blubb7711 6 лет назад
One of these cans has 0.25€ deposit on them in germany. Also they are made from steele and not aluminium due to the alzheimer risk. (only pepsi is still using aluminium)
@superdau
@superdau 6 лет назад
They use it because steel is cheaper, not because of any disease risk. No one has yet been able to show any link between alzheimer's and aluminium. That's just another media scare. If aluminium would harm the body in those trace amounts, evolution would have fucked up in a big way. Aluminium is the third most common element in the earth's crust, so it is everywhere naturally, especially in everything you eat and even in water.
@superdau
@superdau 6 лет назад
There is no "very reactive pure aluminium" in any products, because, well, it's reactive. Unless you're in a vacuum (good luck eating or drinking something there) you won't find any unreacted aluminium (not talking about chunks of metal obviously).
@superdau
@superdau 6 лет назад
So you eat your cans? Or how else do you ingest "pure" aluminium? (what is pure aluminium anyways? It's either aluminium or not). Aluminium also react instantly with water. Don't know about you, but I've never seen a beverage without water. How would you get unreacted aluminium in a can? Btw. cans are usually coated on the inside so the contents don't even come into contact with the metal. And no, they don't do that because aluminium is oh-so-dangerous, it's because cans could leak after a few month of storage when its (most times acidic) contents would have eaten through the metal. Maybe you should start reading research at some point.
@superdau
@superdau 6 лет назад
Don't you see that you are contradicting yourself? You say aluminium is very reactive (which is correct), but then for some reason it is not reactive? Explain again how you can have unreacted aluminium (or "pure" as you call it, which has no scientific meaning in this context) in a drink or food. Explain how if something breaks off an internal wall it does NOT react immediately with the contents?
@superdau
@superdau 6 лет назад
Unless you open your cans with a file I don't know how you would ever get particulate aluminium metal into your food.
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