Aluminum vs Steel Let's Weigh Our Jeeps!

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How important is vehicle weight? How much does your 4x4 weigh? I've never publicly speculated about my vehicle weight because I know there are many variables. In this episode we explore how much is considered light and how much of a difference is steel vs aluminum. Fenders, bumpers, doors, we all have the option to buy these in steel or aluminum. Is it worth the extra money? Today we hit the scales and get some real world data!
For comparison my Land Rover Discover weighs 4900 lbs stock.
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@haterade8 4 года назад

Hey Nate, just want to say I appreciate your eye when it comes to your cinematography and your ears for including some good soundtracks!

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

I appreciate the positive comment! Thank you for watching brother 👊

@peterwatson8295 4 года назад

Being light does give you a HUGE advantage. Jeep did a concept wrangler where they took of a ton of weight from a wrangler, and it lifted it two inches and they were raving about the performance. Even driving down the highway or whatever in my own rig loaded up vs not you can definitely feel it.

@JoeGarofaloII 4 года назад

That's crazy, would have thought the weight difference would have been way more... awesome video as always!

@jamesmac7040 4 года назад

Would love to see you create a mini-series on ways you lighten your truck. Or at minimum, more emphasis on weight reduction in future fab. Great video and surprising result. Thanks Nate!

@TheMinuteman1964 Год назад

I agree 100%

@davemurray8421 4 года назад

I'm so happy you did this video. It just give me more power in my arguments of keeping my JKU as light as I can. So many guys keep telling me I need tons, beefier bumpers and steel fenders. Nope, especially with the wheeling I do. One of my favorite videos so far! Oh and I've been using your paint tips too, and my parts are looking better.

@BenWebster84 4 года назад

That's why I love my XJ on 32s. I go places that mildly built JKs on 35s go

@tf6796 4 года назад

Only problem is your XJ is locked in 4 lo. The Jk hasn't even locked 4 hi... LOL

@BenWebster84 4 года назад

@@tf6796 I'm still having fun, so I really don't care

@bradywilliams2666 4 года назад

I've never weighed my crawler. It is all 1 ton chevy so I think it's pretty heavy. When I first built it. It was a 4 seater with a 20 gallon gastank with a heavy skid plate carrier. Couple yrs ago I pulled 2 seats, changed the cage and built a smaller 14 gallon tank with no skid. Since I moved it up above the frame and forward. The weight reduction kind of hampered the performance to a point. I used to run around in 2 lo and only grabbed 2wd when needed. Now I find I need 4wd more often on easier stuff. I think it helped on climbs since once the front is over it pulls the rear up easier.

@brandon5327 4 года назад

Taking into consideration all the aluminum parts vs his steel parts. Also I believe the tdi is lighter than a factory 4.0. A lot of people don't realize how heavy those engines are, so everything considered I would of guessed a much bigger weight difference between the two even with all the added gussets and trussing. Kinda crazy how the little things start to add up fast.

@murphtahoe1 4 года назад

Great video! I need to lighten my TJ. Five 38’s with aluminum beadlocks adds a ton of weight! I need to switch to from steel tube fenders and front bumper to aluminum. I lost 20 pounds on the front when I changed from steel cable on my winch to synthetic rope. Oh well, it’s just money and time.

@TheDillon1987 4 года назад

One thing I’ve noticed about America is the trucks have way too much weight on as people think bigger is better, but yours is probably one of the better thought out trucks I’ve seen 👍🏼 here in Australia 🇦🇺 we have always been Weight conscious with Aluminium leading the way. Keep up the great content.

@timparkin485 4 года назад

Great video once again! Love it. I’ve always tried to save weight on my Discovery where possible, as I couldn’t agree more, a light vehicle makes a huge difference. I really noticed this tho when I got another Discovery that was rusted out and about to be scrapped. My mate and I tore it down completely to the bare shell and stole the tires of my normal Disco. Taking it for a drive, despite not being regeared like my other one, the “river truck” pulled so hard through obstacles and went places I never expected it to go. Truly could not believe the difference a fully stripped down and lightened vehicle could make!

@dennis-s 4 года назад

Lightness is the key!! I drive a little Suzuki jimny on 30 inch tires. Small tires for the US standard but they fit perfectly without scarifying the all body. Lightness!!

@TheAngryPlrate 4 года назад

Jimnys are ace. Float over stuff like clouds. Show up some of the big boys

@TheAngryPlrate 4 года назад

Thank you for the uploads bud. I'm currently welding my off road rig up but back problems are halting my progress. Watching your vids is next best thing

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

Thanks for watching! Get well soon 👍

@wigit2216 4 года назад

Loving all these uploads!

@brent042081 4 года назад

And that is why your jeep climbs like a beast! Front wait is your friend!!

@street_legal_go_kart7356 4 года назад

It's amazing how much off road and racing really have in common. Less is more and traction is King. I am surprised how light those rigs are. Even my stock 99 TJ Sahara was over 4000 pounds. Rag top .

@rickm4295 4 года назад

I love the channel...I realize its Jeep/rock crawling oriented and i dig it. If you ever get a chance to help your IFS fans out with some cool ideas (other than SAS , lol) please do...

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

I'm definitely into ifs. I'd like to build my wifes IFS Jeep liberty 👍

@rickm4295 4 года назад

@@DirtLifestyle I have a Tacoma that im getting ready for Utah next year now.....was gonna be this year. Im not gonna do anything crazy but i am looking forward to stuff like Shaffer Trail and Moab (not insane stuff). I look forward to any IFS tricks & tips you have in the future for sure

@drewcramer7918 4 года назад

I love snow wheeling and weight is a huge factor. That's why I don't run armor and my tire of choice is IROK, they are light.

@vitaminb4869 2 года назад

Lighter rigs definitely have more traction. This can easily be seen when big full size trucks get stuck in deep snow left and right, but Jeeps just keep going. I once slid down an icy forest road going uphill, just couldn't make it to the top - lost traction 4/5 of the way up, had 7 psi in my 35" tires, 2 door JK, locked F&R. Then I saw an ATV made that hill. He also was able to keep more momentum going up. Him and some other truck with chains were the only ones that made that hill that day.

@SSMJ 4 года назад

Weight really matters. My JKU is coming in at 5240 with 35s and a PR44U, when I go to 38s soon it should bring me to 5340 for a JKU with full armor. Lots of aluminum here too, cause keeping it light keeps it fun! Keep up the great content, your videos have really taken off now that you've been doing this full time! Do you have a store with Dirt Lifestyle stickers?

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

Thanks! Yes I do! Www.thedirtlifestyle.com

@SSMJ 4 года назад

@@DirtLifestyle Ordered! Have a good one!

@normlenhart9565 4 года назад

I weighed my last truck project before my daughter inherited it. 79 F250 built for the desert 4x4. on 37s/D44HD front. I THOUGHT I had it pretty stripped down (0ne gas tank, bedlined interior, 8 foot stepside box instead of full steel ) but had some tube work, tube bumpers and a winch. Took it to Cat certified scales and about fell over. 6400 pounds. Yea. Stuff adds up. Quick.

@gregnyce6670 4 года назад

My TJ on 35's was 3570 lbs. After doing cage/JK axles, 38's and more stretch, I am up to 4560 lbs, all aluminum armor up top, all steel underneath. I am looking at ways to lighten things up as well.

@brianhoefer7148 4 года назад

About 25 years ago I was snowmobling Mt Shasta with a group and this dude with an old air-cooled Yamaha Exciter 440 was making highmarks against newer, larger displacement sleds due to the older sled weighing about 150lbs less.

@jake-coombs 4 года назад

I wasn't to far out on my guess of 2100kg or equal to 4630 lbs . Even just changing the fixings to aluminium or titanium can save a surprising amount of wait.

@onetruebob_tj 4 года назад

Great video! My guesses for both rigs were way off. For your rig I completely forgot about the trusses and bigger axles. As soon as this virus thing lifts gonna take my TJ to the truck scales.

@tacotots_132 Год назад

Love that definition of traction. Smart man!!

@phillippearce9680 4 года назад

That was a very surprising difference! Quite an eye opener. As always, great content.

@jameshall4385 4 года назад

your jeep must have gained weight being on lock down. it needs more exercise

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

😂

@lewy1 2 года назад

My CJ5 with 5 33s on steel wheels no top or doors front roll bar added, 8274 winch and added trans oil pan skid, 4.3 vortec weighs 3860.

@raychilcote5558 4 года назад

Real numbers rule! Trading parts for upgrades is good. An AMC360 is just 60 lbs heavier than a cast iron straight 6. Swap out the cast iron intake for an aluminum cuts that in half. Awesome in a fiberglass CJ-5. I need to weigh it! Guessing low 3s.

@headlesnorseman701 4 года назад

im just thinking... if you could get say like a 2800 lb rig... it would prob survive with 3/4 ton axles and very little trussing. would need lots of deleted creature comforts and body work and liberal use of aluminum. i need to get a YJ again lol

@dubCanuck1 4 года назад

"sometimes the best way to save $1000 is to find 1000 ways to save $1"

@laneh.5150 4 года назад

IMO - more importantly is the ratio of Unsprung weight to Sprung weight (basically having heavy tires,wheels & axles aren't really an important issue as much as having a heavy loaded down with tools, steel panels, skids, bumpers on top of the springs) So long as you have enough horse power/torque & gear ratio to turn the heavy wheels then you're ultra-light rig should be able to crawl or power over or through anything.

@shadowlm315 4 года назад

Hey Nate, if you added some weight to the rear it would pull some off the front too. That tire carrier of yours might even out the front to rear weight of your Jeep.

@Dhane-0 4 года назад

I’m pretty sure my 💩📦 has 500lbs of just DOM tube lol

@Tbmx8 4 года назад

You should do a overview of your towing set up for the Jeep! Loved this video by the way, I can relate with my TJ👍🏻

@charlesb4267 4 года назад

Nate, your TJ was dead on even from side to side and cross corners, for some reason Kelly's has uneven weights corner to corner. While its not a huge amount it still stands out and I had three theories. 1. the tire inflation was not even, 2. one or more springs has been stressed and now doesn't share the same load at a given height, 3. a twisted frame I'd be curious to hear your speculation.

@leetucker5788 4 года назад

my scout ii was around 3500 pounds new; but with tons, a full cage, bumpers, skid plates, 40s, beadlocks, winch, and other crap it tipped the scales at 6000 pounds.

@michaeldose2041 4 года назад

@1:24 "easier to push or pull a rig if it is lite". "you get what appears to be better traction" That must be why powered para gliders go over obstacles with such ease. Seriously, if it was only about lightness a stock cj2a would be the best. In aviation it is all about strong and lite. Or just strong enough. When you talk about aluminum fenders, sure why not but in the overall scheme of things it boils down to less than 5% overall. In other words a well prepped rig will gain some weight. Both of these rigs are well prepped, the DL rig has a lot of beef where it counts namely in the suspension, axle and transfer case. For that reason advantage DL, overall probably more reliable and still came in slightly lighter. Well done!

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

You look at this exactly the same way I do. If you put the weight where it counts it's not a hindrance, it's an asset. Trussed axles, hydro steering and a 4 speed transfercase are things I wasn't willing to compromise on. And the offroad performance got a huge boost from these assets 👍

@moabwheeling 4 года назад

I was close in my guess , i thought like you Nate on the weight savings of using aluminum . Awesome video again my friend and i also follow Kelly on his youtube channel . Until next time take care .

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

Thanks buddy! Stay healthy!

@charliedee9276 4 года назад

I used to drag race a highly modified Harley Sportster, losing 35 lbs dropped my best time by a bit over .2 seconds. Weight is everything, the less the better.

@jonathancamps9853 4 года назад

Nate this is a great channel you created. Funny how your left side is heavier than the right.

@MullnerFab 4 года назад

This is why I want all aluminum armor and skids on my 2.5 TJ. Cut out as much weight as possible and keep it lite while adding armor.

@MrJoshItIs 4 года назад

Taken together with your previous video about axles vs weight, it would seem to imply a catch 22 where 1-ton axles' weight would require/justify 1-ton axles.

@450ktm520 4 года назад

Question and not sure if its splitting hairs... when we weight race cars the pads need to be centered, the scale manufacture has a best practice. If not centered you have to take the tangent of the corner weight. Anyhow, great video and something I want to do on my rig but our race car scales are rated to the less load. Planning on building a 2 to 1 offset to reduce the load to the scale.

@donhappel9928 4 года назад

I noticed this and wondered about it as well

@tiredofinsanity 4 года назад

I appreciate the content! I always find things like this interesting. It's amazing how things like not only weight but it's placement change how your wheeler runs through its paces....I have a light xj on 40s that wheels great over most obstacles but I also have a square body suburban on tons that's a pig but wheels better over some things. I assume wheelbase but maybe weighing it to see what kind of weight distribution it has might turn up some interesting info🤔 Thank you!

@donhappel9928 4 года назад

Tell me you did the Rover while you had the scales out! Non-Rover people are always asking why we run E-rated tires and are shocked to learn just how heavy they are despite the aluminum in them. I don't have the CAT tickets in front of me by my LR3 when loaded for a trip w/2 people and full fuel was over 7500 lbs (!). My topless D1 is around 6000 if I remember correctly. And this from a guy who 100% believes Colin Chapman was a god - Simplify and add lightness!

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

I'm going to weigh the disco when I finish the ton swap lol. OEM they are 4900! With 37s and bumpers 6k is easy

@donhappel9928 4 года назад

@@DirtLifestyle dug out my old CAT weigh-slip; topless D1 with driver, 37" Pitbulls on steel 15x10s, with gear on-board came to 5760. Heavy, but not quite as bad as I remembered. I'm betting you end up around 6200 on the D2; it's heavier than the D1, plus your axles will be heavier and you'll have the RTT/etc on board.

@mikehoffman3690 4 года назад

Love the slo-mo trail vid.

@gamesofcontent 4 года назад

Force per square inch. Pressure per square inch would be pounds/ in^4. Pressure is F/A. Bearing stress is what you are talking about. Force/area.

@CFairNH 4 года назад

Given the stats, I am shocked that you're so close together in weight. Very cool video!!! As the saying goes the numbers don't lie.

@Trex76us 4 года назад

My TJ on 37's with 5 tires on beadlocks came in at 4880 lbs at the local truck stop.

@travismcvey 4 года назад

Was surprised to see them come in under 5k. My XJ on 33s weights just under 5k with me and around ½ tank of gas. Add the kids, and the girl I'm definitely over 5k.

@nerfatron 3 года назад

That's surprising, my buddy had an xj, 33s 6" long arm lift, whole body was redone with linex, we weighed his jeep on the scales at about 3800lbs, but he didn't have a winch bumper or lockers or anything else really

@PaulKaiser42 4 года назад

That was great!!! I would have thought your Jetta motor was a lighter then a gas motor.

@sevensenseification 4 года назад

So, its time to build a Suzuki Samurai on 33 tires.

@mike86mike 4 года назад

Lada niva on 35.

@juliej4111 3 года назад

Nice video........ My jeep weighs 1760 lbs on 31s. I'm building another one with a goal of 1500 lbs on 31s.

@brianbrown9338 4 года назад

Just found this channel. Clearly the “ginja ninja” of jeeps. Love it.

@kcscustom9759 4 года назад

Some good points here! I’ve added a ton of weight to my rig with steel parts over the years. Now that I have the capabilities to weld aluminum tho and the want to make my rig lighter I am going back and looking at everything I’ve added to decide what components would be valuable in weight savings to rebuild out of aluminum, while keeping everything safe and sturdy of course. I weighed it a few times separately a couple weeks ago to get an idea of what I’m working with, and so I have a before number. All I’m going to say is she could really use a diet lol.. So far on my list of parts to rebuild is my full belly pan, diff guards, roof rack, front & rear bumpers including the guard I have in front & my tire carrier in rear, and some of the bigger brackets I have. I’ll be really curious to see how much weight I loose!

@briankirwan9588 4 года назад

My unimog 404 is right around 6700 pounds with two of us and all our gear for wheeling.

@evansautomotive307 4 года назад

My 95 Montero weighs 4500lbs stock with 30in tires haha. Now its on 35s and is getting a 5.3 soooo looking at at least 5k haha. Those things are light!

@ericmillier6652 4 года назад

These numbers definitely surprised me. Great tooic

@justinschlaud9443 4 года назад

Nate, if you get a chance, it would be interesting to put your brothers TJ on the scales. More of a stock-ish build on 35s. I know it’s not an apple to apple comparison to yours and Kelly’s.

@Bill-v650 4 года назад

There is a lot of false "economy" in the weight savings of aluminum. Yes aluminum itself is about 1/3rd the weight of steel but generally parts will have to be twice as thick and/or beefier because the properties of aluminum aren't as good as steel. So you end up saving 30% at best. Seems like the take away is don't over build parts.

@CommieCat 4 года назад

Bill 1/3 is 33%

@Bill-v650 4 года назад

@@CommieCat Aluminum is about 1/3rd the weight of steel. So that would be a 66% weight savings straight swapping materials... It never works out that way practically. Reading comprehension / math fail, thanks though.

@EvanMoon 4 года назад

You said it so I don’t have to say it again. I have a set of ramps for a car trailer and they’re about 6 feet long and they are ridiculously heavy but they are made out of aluminum. The biggest property of Luna that makes it great is it does not rust. I think the coolest thing Nate changed to lose weight was he put in the diesel engine

@KurNorock 4 года назад

There is no built like over built!

@wvjeepguy8178 4 года назад

You're really underestimating the structural integrity of both 6,000 and 7,000 series aluminum.

@gearheadfabworks 4 года назад

Sometimes, the problem also come from using thicker gauge aluminum to maintain or closely resemble the strength of steel. So of course, that makes the weight difference a little less. But, overall, both those rigs are lightweight. My Comanche weighs in at 5,400 lbs with no major body armor. Lol.

@tjcrawford7910 4 года назад

Nate... wash all the dirt off and you’ll loose another 200 lbs. life hack!

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

Lol you aren wrong. I bet I have 20lbs of dirt between the skids and frame rails!

@TheKnightsShield 4 года назад

HERESY!! It's not a Jeep if it's clean. XD

@mizzclaireelizabeth 4 года назад

currently running a 83 square body on 33s and a 4in lift with a full toolbox. went to a scale the other day only weighs 4700 lbs. its going to be much heaver when i load it with camping gear and fuel.

@Nanan00 4 года назад

With that VW diesel your jeep could be significantly heavier and you wouldn't notice it all that much.

@redneckgearheadgarage495 4 года назад

Shedding weight doesn't increase traction but decreases the amount of traction required to move the vehicle forward.

@tonyb2086 4 года назад

I'll buy that, makes sense.

@Alx2672 4 года назад

Weigh the gladiator... Anything with the gladiator and I'm happy. That's a great truck. Build an xj too (In your spare time with the EXTRA cash laying around.)

@1stuart1 4 года назад

Did you notice how much easier Nate's Jeep floated up onto those scales?

@dorsk84 4 года назад

Maybe it's all the mud. Maybe you should clean them. It might be only a few pounds...or alot more. Also there is a time and place for AL or steel when building a rig.

@ArsaloBaja646 4 года назад

guessing, if you put the scale the most on the front is possible, is the same result? no using the tires on the scale, maybe a supports on the front bomper. what I mean or my theory is, possibly the weight of the front of the car is a little bit ahead of the center of gravity of the front differential, and this may have a lever effect. (I know this video is a comparison just for fun) nice videos, i learn a lot from your videos.

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

You could be right!

@kickinitoutdoors5782 4 года назад

My two door JK on 40s is 4350 with just spare and full tank gas, with me and gear its 4866!

@carlsandvik2893 4 года назад

I'm a little afraid to put my K5 on the scales after my axle swap... curious, but definitely afraid! :) Keep the great content coming Nate.

@jamesbarnes7201 4 года назад

that explains how your jeep does such good front digs ....i was off by 600 lbs with my guess

@epagent6091 4 года назад

Well Damm my math was off as well!! Cool video Nate.

@samurai4x483 4 года назад

With all that steel, those axles are probably heavier than 1 tons. How usefull is that front bumper? Maybe just leave the winch plate and remove everything else. Coilovers in the front would also save you a lot of weight in brackets. Suzuki Samurai on 30s, 1.9L Turbo diesel, no rear seats, no front bumper ~1020kg / 2250 pounds. Going to change the seats in the near future and suspension, probably going to be able to get it under 1 ton.

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

Lol they are still way less then one tons. The cast center section of a d60 is probably 50% heavier then a d44. Lol I've got some plans to drop weight with an aluminum front bumper but this Jeep is ultralight compared to 90% of rigs on 40s. It doesn't need any more weight lose I just want it

@goodmanboattransport3441 4 года назад

My Suzuki sidekick sitting on 33 swampers weighed 2500 on the truck scales

@MaynardFreek 4 года назад

You win!

@4WDTrek 3 года назад

This is a lot of fantastic info! I'll have to start thinking about this as I continue the build with my JK. And hey! I'm a (small) youtuber somewhat close to you! Wheeled with Kelly At reiter last summer. Hoping to get out with you guys soon and learn from you guys. Been watching both your channels for a long time and inspired me for my builds!

@cjjohnson3939 4 года назад

Haha I've been wanting to ask this for awhile now. Was curious to see what the 1.9 was lugging around aside from the huge tires 👍

@TrashPandaGarage 4 года назад

Great video! It would be cool to see you explore wheel/tire weights in the future. How much of a negative effect do heavier wheel and tire combos have on performance, etc.

@brisonpalmer6730 4 года назад

Really cool stuff! I am definitely going to go more aluminum in the future on my LJ build.

@h8highways530 4 года назад

Great video. I was sup-prized with the weights myself.

@KovaaksDemon 4 года назад

Loving these uploads!

@BenWebster84 4 года назад

Also I like your channel way better than Bleeping Jeep.

@justinhofstetter1712 4 года назад

Quarentine has me checking every 10 minutes to see if a new video is up evn though I know dam well I have notifications turned on lol

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

Lol I appreciate the support! I have a new one uploading as we speak 👍

@iamblaineful 4 года назад

Your build is dead nuts on, a perfect 1000 in the rear, and only 20lbs different in the front, side to side. The actual numbers don't matter to me as much as does the balance left to right. This means your suspension is set up extremely well, no binding, near perfect link arm adjustments, and great shock pressure balance. Himes/Johnny Joints goes a long way in preventing pre-bind by tightening link rods at full droop on factory style press-in rubber isolators, bad or worn shocks, and worn out springs. That can cause a significant difference in corner weight loads on level pavement. Race cars have been using pre-load, spring rates, shock stiffness, and the like to transfer weight to different corners to their advantage. I've seen plenty cars measure out +200lbs on a given wheel indicating a significant suspension problem. Kelly's jeep had a bit of oddness to it in one wheel, 60 to 80lbs of mismatch, and that can be corrected by finding the fault, as something is a bit out of spec.

@fishrrelaxing9361 4 года назад

Should have done it will all gear still in so you would know your actual real world trail weights.. he’s 50/50 weight empty and you’re front heavy. Interesting to see how much more balanced you would be with gear in the back and if his gear throws him off balance. Having an xj I’m always looking for ways to add a little more to the rear while removing from the front cause xjs are always trying to roll downhill while being so stable uphill. I know you were really disappointed your balance was off so much but I think you’ll find loaded up you’re likely a lot better balanced then he is. Also he’s still got a full tank in the rear while you’re running that 7g tank. That’s likely a big factor right there. What’s odd is why that one corner is so far off on his. I bet that’s cause the hinged tire carrier doesn’t even distribute the weight of that spare.. I absolutely hate rear carriers for this reason. Anyone who’s wheel a rig both with and wo a carrier and big meat hanging off the back behind the axle centers know how much more capable the same rigs is wo that leveraging weight. Single best thing you did was put that spare in the back over the rear axles.

@onwheels8232 4 года назад

0:55 that's why a 60+ tones tanks have trucks 😂

@abdubitar960 4 года назад

THAT SOOO FUCKING SICK MUDDY BEAR 4x4 Collab 🥵🥵🥵🥵 and that intro is so fuego 🔥

@Allianceoffroad 4 года назад

Great vid Nate! Gets the mind going for sure

@FiveFourRacing 4 года назад

Weight down lower too if you fill your tires with water you get more benifits then body weight

@FiveFourRacing 4 года назад

also the axle weight isnt something to worry about for the same reason

@rockandroad4x4partsaccesso36 4 года назад

Nate, you did not even mention your TDI which is lighter than the 4 liter. Wow. I thought it would be a bigger difference

@ryanprendergast6408 4 года назад

Always love the videos Nate! Love the camera work and soundtrack. 👌

@henryxavier3751 4 года назад

Remember steal does not break like steel. Generally in weight of a Jeep a couple pounds of weight saving is not worth of frustration of a small weight savings.... I think proper weight and balance of a vechile will climb much better than saving @ 100 lbs.Not to mention mud? gas @7.5 gallons,location,driver @200 lbs per + passenger.Let’s save on mud. I think. To make it fly use helium in those tyres to save weight. And it will go faster 😜

@blueweb00 4 года назад

Steal does not break like steel? What do you mean by that?

@henryxavier3751 4 года назад

Remember steel does not break like aluminum....

@henryxavier3751 4 года назад

Steal sings and bends aluminum breaks generally not much weight savings is worth the frustration of breakage where as steel you may be able to hammer it back in.

@kevinengland4675 4 года назад

Already follow Muddy Beards channel as well man. Live both of your guys content 🤘

@suzukimudplugger 4 года назад

Hey Nate, I’m from the UK and have a Land Rover discovery 300tdi and I really love the colour of your TJ so was wondering if you knew the colour of it? I’d love to paint my disco the same

@derek6044 4 года назад

TJ, 60/10.5, 347/C4/Dana20, 38.5 boggers on racelines, rings in at 3500lbs with no passengers, gear or spare...

@tomconroy8367 4 года назад

Cool video. I like the real world results. Do you know what the weight difference between the tdi vs 4.0 is? Still surprised your that close to Kelly’s TJ.

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

Its 200 ish lbs different. I think its pretty amazing that my Jeep is still lighter lol. 4 speed tcase, hydro steering, and axle trusses and it's still almost 200lbs lighter. The aluminum definitely makes a difference 👍

@tonyb2086 4 года назад

That was a cool show, that's an accurate enough method to weigh the Jeeps. I use to think I was going to be the next John Force and I always wanted a set of those, then reality took over and the Zuki's and Jeeps won. Nate grows a beard like Kelly and you guys can be Muddy Dirt Lifestyle With Beards😀

@beachboy4928 4 года назад

Great stuff guys! Question...Kelly is running a fullsized spare tire. Does he keep the spare tire deflated more weigh savings or does he keep the spare fully inflated?

@DirtLifestyle 4 года назад

Lol I have no idea but I've never considered this before

@donhappel9928 4 года назад

@@DirtLifestyle he totally inflates it with helium for maximum flotation!