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Aluminum Wiring - What are the Dangers? 

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Hi, it’s Mark from Top Local Lead Generation. We’re here today talking with David Fairbairn of Fairbairn Inspections in Vancouver and we’re going to cover a very interesting topic, aluminum wiring. How are you doing today David?
David: Hey, I’m good Mark. Are you ready to talk about electrical safety?
Mark: Yeah, so I guess we’re in a spot where we can actually see an electrical panel where you are today, so aluminum wiring, what year was aluminum wire sort of started to be installed in homes?
David: Just for today we’re actually looking at an electrical panel. This house was built in the mid 80’s. You’re not going to find aluminum wiring in a house built in the 80’s. Aluminum wiring was used from the mid 60’s to the mid, late 70’s and I’ve seen it as late as about 77, 78 and here’s a thing about it, because it was manufactured and installed around this time it doesn’t necessarily mean it stopped after the 70’s, I’ve actually seen back stock of it used in unpermitted work. Sometimes it’s an electrician whose got a bunch of extra in his truck and he’s going to throw it into your panel so that’s why you always have to check every single panel even if it’s from the mid 80’s, I always pull them open and once or twice I found old aluminum but the main thing it was used from the mid 60’s to mid 70’s.
Mark: So why are we even concerned about aluminum wiring?
David: Well we are concerned about aluminum wiring as it overheats so the draw with aluminum wiring was that it was cheap and it’s exactly as easy to install as copper was, you know, as copper prices rose we said hey you know, let’s actually start using aluminum, it’s a lot cheaper, you can wire a whole house for a lot less than you can with copper and what we discovered later unfortunately was it overheats at connections, so aluminum handles current very poorly and it tends to overheat at places like we’ve got a switch, a light fixture, a junction box, those are all areas that you can actually get an overheating condition and it actually started fires and the statistic was that a home wired with aluminum wiring is 44 times more likely to have an electrical fire than a house wired with copper so you can see the statistical need to remediate aluminum wiring and for that reason let’s say you’re buying a house, a Vancouver special built in the early 70’s you know, if you’ve got aluminum wiring you’re going to have a hard time getting insurance on that house. The insurance companies understandably don’t want to see aluminum wiring in the house and if they do see it, they want to see it corrected or the house rewired.
Mark: So how do you tell if you got it in your house?
David: O.K. so what we’re going do is I’m going to pull up some photos of it because I want to show you what aluminum wiring looks like in a house, so let me know when you can see the photo appear that I’m going to be bringing up.
Mark: o.k.
David: Okay, so here we are, we’re looking at a receptacle that’s been pulled from the wall and it’s pretty easy to tell that you’ve got aluminum. Copper is kind of a shiny gold colour and aluminum is generally a silver colour so if you see this chances are you have aluminum. Now in some older houses particularly in character homes pre 1950’s you will see what’s called tin copper where they would actually take the copper, put some solder on the end of it in what’s called tinning and that can actually confuse a lot of newer inspectors and newer electrician where it actually looks like aluminum. The way to tell is that if you have a rubber jacket so here we can see black and white wired rubber jacketed, we also look at the time frame of the house and this is from a 70’s house, early 70’s house and we can see that it’s, you know if you look at the tips of the wire you can see that it’s aluminum all the way through. What we try to do, what they tried to do later, once aluminum had a bad reputation we started bringing out a new type of material called copper clad aluminum or CC8. CC8 was basically aluminum wire with a copper coating on it and it doesn’t work. The idea was that we would get the connectivity of copper without the cost of it. It doesn’t work and if you see CC8 you pretty much have to remove it. Let me go to the next slide here, this is the panel from an inspection in Richmond so this is sort of a Vancouver special in the Richmond area houses built in 72 and this is the best way to tell if you’ve got it. So go to the panel, we’re having a look at the bottom there, you can see those white wires coming out and going into that busbar, it’s sort of a horizontal bar at the bottom, that’s the best place to find aluminum.

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@shannonsloan7246
@shannonsloan7246 5 лет назад
As a licensed electrician I have pigtailed a few houses and have become familiar with aluminum wiring and the issues that it comes with. Through experience I knew a lot of what was said here but this video was very well put together, they qualified person Spoke well and I learned some things I didn’t know as well. Thank you very much.
@mobilechief
@mobilechief 6 лет назад
My house burned down in 1973 because of that crap, one reason I decided to study electricity, a family of 7 people almost died due to aluminum if it hadint been for our cats waking us up.
@Sparky-ww5re
@Sparky-ww5re 3 года назад
Oh that's very sad. Sorry for your loss.
@gregorylyon1004
@gregorylyon1004 Год назад
We had a mobile home that was built in 1972. Every wire in the house aluminum. The lead wires and all the receptacles were all aluminum. I couldn't believe it. But the only circuit breaker that would trip was the air conditioner. The AC was too big for the circuit
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 5 лет назад
Several times while watching TV in the living room in the evening, a friend's Siamese cat was acting strange and hissing and swatting an electrical receptacle on the wall with nothing plugged into it. After a few days of this behavior of the cat, he became curious and checked out the unused receptacle to find power was passing through this receptacle to additional circuits. The aluminum wires had become loose on the receptacle screws and the cat could hear the arcing!!!
@nastrom100
@nastrom100 7 лет назад
Great video ! Very informative. Great Q&A. Kudos.
@dtrrtd774
@dtrrtd774 7 лет назад
what was the concept behind the CU-AL receptacles that didn't work? was it that the screw connections didn't maintain a secure connection from the repeated heat cycling?
@williamcorcoran8842
@williamcorcoran8842 2 года назад
The problem with aluminum wire is that it corrodes (oxidizes) when connected to copper wire. The corrosion causes arcing over time that can lead to fire. Also, when aluminum connects to copper they expand and contract at different rates. This causes connections to loosen over time. This, too, can cause fire.
@heroknaderi
@heroknaderi 4 года назад
Good information ℹ️
@shabutir1820
@shabutir1820 5 лет назад
We bought a 1982 Holiday Rambler camper that Im pretty sure uses aluminum. The breaker box is copper coming from the main power wire, but the lights at least are aluminum. Wont know for sure if its throughout until I pull out an outlet. But we had a 1978 park model camper that was all copper.
@dtrrtd774
@dtrrtd774 7 лет назад
shades of really, really zoolander- FLIR image was interesting, good way to quickly identify high resistance connection issues.
@chasgarza3960
@chasgarza3960 5 лет назад
What about the circuit breaker box. Does it have to be pigtailed also if its aluminum to aluminum or only if the circuit breakers are or where changed to copper. If its hasn't been touched and it is all aluminum will it safely power the pigtailed wires outlets inside the trailer without danger? We have no money to hire an electrician but I understand exactly what to do. The outlets need to be replaced but I can't just put a copper outlet on without pigtailing the wires with the noalox and #63 wire connectors. I am scared for my family. My mom, me and my son and two puppies have no choice but to live in this beat down trailer.
@williamhaines7752
@williamhaines7752 4 года назад
Except. For ac disconnects. Range. Outlets and setvices. Branch. Circuits. It was diisconected
@bimil8724
@bimil8724 5 лет назад
Wrong about insurance I got it no problem with a mainstream company. I got 600k rebuild too.
@andystitt3887
@andystitt3887 5 лет назад
Is the where arc fault risk comes from?
@alphaomega8373
@alphaomega8373 6 лет назад
Good stuff!
@ehill5638
@ehill5638 5 лет назад
You mentioned cu-al but you didn't mention co/alr.
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 5 лет назад
CO/ALR (ALuminum-Revised) is the good one.
@GarryBurgess
@GarryBurgess Год назад
I'm very comfortable with paying the big price to get my house rewired.
@qualityrenov
@qualityrenov 7 лет назад
@fairbairninspections I'm buying a house that was built in 1973 in western Quebec, with Aluminum wiring all over. Can get away with just re-wiring the Stove, Hot water tank and Dryer to Copper, and the doing those pigtails with the special anti-oxidant paste in all outlets and switches, and redoing the electrical panel? all by certified electrician of course. re-wiring the whole hose will be cost-prohibitive!
@AlexPasek
@AlexPasek 6 лет назад
rewire hi-load lines like stove, dryer etc. Everything else should be fine with pigtailing (ie AlumiConn) and use of AFCI outlets.
@henriemarquez9567
@henriemarquez9567 3 года назад
You got to replceit
@johnshort4421
@johnshort4421 5 лет назад
I am sorry, but your status of 44% increase of fires with aluminum compared to copper is absolutely a farce number. If that were true, with over several million homes in Florida alone, you would have house fires every day caused by this wiring. You guys are just out there scaring people into paying big money to rewire their homes. There are methods to use that should be introduced and these homes with aluminum wiring should incorporate them and have it inspecatble.
@donaldlee6760
@donaldlee6760 4 года назад
I was also curious how 44 times (not 44%) statistic. This is 4400% higher. I'd like to read the source, but I wonder if it would compare 55 year old houses (1965) are 44 times more likely to have a fire than houses built in the last 5 years and using the 2014 NEC code. If correct, than it's not fair to compare 55 years with 5 years (11x difference), and compare buildings with arc-fault breakers to those without, and lastly compare houses with modern UL receptacles to those using low-quality, non-listed receptacles. But who knows, maybe it really is 4400% higher. Too bad there is no source.
@henriemarquez9567
@henriemarquez9567 3 года назад
If you do not understand electricity aluminum wires will lose its once it heats up you got pull that shit out it will drive crazy to trouble shoot pig tail sometimes will not work any more nolox will cut off the
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