Bear with me Warren, haven't worked on them since the mid 1990's, but back then I saw them almost daily, the ones I did work on were the TD25B's, C's and E's. They were still powered with the International 817 engines. But the machines you're working on look the same as previous series. The guy I worked with back then who really knew his stuff has been dead for over 20 years. Major steering adjustments were behind plugs above the final drives. Reach them from each side with at least a 2 or 3 foot long 1/2 in drive extension. I believe the adjusters were in the rear frame cover. A lot of steering issues could be traced to those adjustments, the G series may be different. Pulling the track frame is the easy part of doing the final drives. Remove the front track frame vertical guide, the rear cap on the outside of the track frame at the center of the final drive and the bolts holding the wishbone to the bearing in the center rear of the rear frame. Then lift and swing the track frame out. There is a big ass nut right behind the track frame that must be loosened with a, I believe, 8 point wrench. The wrench spans the sprocket, locks into two opposite sprocket teeth, and is driven by the sprocket to loosen the nut. There is a ring of dowel pins with internal threads that hold the center of the sprocket to the final drive output. Can't remember the size of the internal threads on those dowels but we'd thread rods into them and then pull them out with a 50 ton hollow bore porta power, a smaller porta power might have done it, but not much smaller. Maybe have some extra shorts in your truck, because the odd time those dowels may be galled in the holes, when the pull rod snaps and the porta power goes flying you might shit yourself. I think I had to use paper towel as underwear for the rest of the day when it first happened to me. After that they aren't too bad. When reassembling you want a young man running the sledge with a good aim and a pilot tool to drive those dowels back in, I was the young guy 30 years ago. That big nut is tightened again using the power of the machine. Don't quote me on the specs, but it was something like 2nd gear and 800 engine RPM and let her tighten until the convertor stalled. If you need any parts or service info call Brown International Services in Armstrong BC. I tried to post a link but its not working, just google them. We've dealt with them when needed for over 30 years and they know their shit when it comes to Internationals/Dressers. They will point you in the right direction on the steering issues, parts, and most anything else you need to know.
Your philosophy on repair never gets tiring. Thx for taking time to post what you do and explain to us what n why. I’m a carpenter that likes tractors n stuff n I feel like I pick up lotsa ways to be more self sufficient watching ya work dude! Big fan! Love the big older iron n trucks
When I feel lazy, I watch one of your videos. You are like a force of nature and it makes me want to jump up off the sofa in shame and go do something - you are a role model. Thanks for sharing a part of your life.
52 years as an Alfa Romeo mechanic and I noticed how similar Warren’s approach is. Look at it, think about what that piece does, explain it out loud....if it don’t make sense...start over thinking about it. NEVER git pissed off at the machine ! It’ll hurt ya... Warren gives me hope that I can keep our IH TD15C runnin and bladein’ for another 40 years...
Finaly Warren says how it is..he gets paid to do this! Congrats on the introduction! I learn something new every day and thanks to you Sir... I am still learning after many years of since my retirement. I am not eager to get back into fixing and repairing equipment or Highway Tractors, but it's refreshing to keep up to date with the newer equipment. However I do not miss the grease oil and diesel on my clothes. Thank you Warren for the videos that you share.
Best investment I've ever made Warren was a tow behind 125 cfm air compressor. I can run 2 big 1" drive guns and any other tools without waiting for air. I do a ton of undercarriage work like that and use the crap out of my compressor.
@@johndowe7003 yeah it works great. It has a 1-1/4" main line off the compressor into a 5 gallon pancake manifold with all ball valves and 1/2" lines on 3/4" Chicago twist lock fittings. I have adapters for smaller hoses and such so we can run any air tool off it.
@@steelfabmechanic6545 hah, nic ei made such a manifold on my channel as well. its not as complex as yours but it just adds more capacity more than anything
I’m a 4yr. Service tech for a place called OXBO international, let me tell ya that I’m a big fan of what you do. I know that it can be crazy having to go out and troubleshoot and get the job done, but you actually take the time to film it! This is awesome, I learn from your videos you have a big time fan in the State of Washington!
@Joe Robinsin it think though, it's not the kids Mr Warren is concerned for (although I don't doubt he cares), but more likely youtube/google and the crap stipulations they have for advertising revenue/monetisation. Crazy really since any good mechanic/technician/whatever badge they care to wear, can cuss and blaspheme to make a sailor blush & the companies supplying them know this too and shouldn't care. It's all about "looking professional" IMO but the experience I have is the less professional a guy looks/acts, he's usually good at the job & doesn't feel the need to conform to a look whereas the ones with all the fresh overalls/bitchmitts/shiny totectors and the slick talk are the shysters ripping folk off or doing shit work.
western truck and tractor repair .......... Hey Warren hows it going. I was watching a video you made 2 months ago and you asked on a voice over if we the viewers wanted to see the light duty trucks and if it was worth recording. My answer is YES we want to see everything. Dont worry too much about editing because we know your busy and get home late and too tired to edit. I watch your videos because i like to see everything and every nut and bolt. I know its also hard to hold s camera while working and i also dont want to slow you down. But if you can find a way to manage then dont worry about the other idiots that dont want every nut and bolt shown.
There are no steering clutches in the td25. it is a planetary gear set on each side. The idea was to give drive to both tracks while making a slow turn. It also allowed you to doze on a slope with out switching the drive on one track off with the steering clutch to stay straight. It is a complex system that uses some high high pressures. understanding it before tearing into it is strongly advised. Be careful Warren and good luck.
Loved it wow...this is definitely a 2 man job....could have gone to auction because of emissions...but more than likely theres a serious problem that you will find in the first 30 min on the fire line...I wouldn't trust it...two speed makes sense....you dont lose power while turning with the blade down...strange cat didn't pick up on this sooner..definitely a draw back with the older dozers....hats off gentlemen
IH's clam to fame was the two speed steering to help steering will a full blade or to overcome the "nosing into cut" when making a sidehill cut. Almost like a differential steering.
Hey Warren hows it going. I was watching a video you made 2 months ago and you asked on a voice over if we the viewers wanted to see the light duty trucks and if it was worth recording. My answer is YES we want to see everything. Dont worry too much about editing because we know your busy and get home late and too tired to edit. I watch your videos because i like to see everything and every nut and bolt. I know its also hard to hold s camera while working and i also dont want to slow you down. But if you can find a way to manage then dont worry about the other idiots that dont want every nut and bolt shown. Your the best mechanic and your channel will keep growing if you show everything.
about 20 years ago i had to remove the top plate on a powershift td25 because one of the hydraulic hoses that went from under the top cover to the epicyclic gear sets that engage the two speed ruptured. yes the cab had to come off it was a big j ob for one hose
Spoke to my cousin who worked and spannered on these darlings. The sharft is straight on the final drive and. If you want to fuck with the power two speeds on the sticks you will have to lift the fuel tank off. Your right on what the hydro pump does hope this helps
I love my TD25 dozers They were ahead of everyone else on their transmissions and steering. The steering is done with nitrogen charged accumulators. My brother was a field mechanic for our local Case International dealer here in Idaho falls and they worked on these a lot since the TD25 was originally international. His boss is highly knowledgeable on these if you ever have any questions he's the guy to go to. If you want his name give me your email and I'll give it to you.
@@ronchappel4812 with regular air pressure changes with temperature and regular compressed air contains a lot of moisture where nitrogen maintains constant pressure when temperatures fluctuate and nitrogen doesn't contain any moisture (condensation). I've been using nitrogen in all of my tires for years, it gives a steady tire pressure no matter if the tires are hot or cold and gives better fuel economy.
@@clydeacor1911 Ok, yes i knew of that particular use for nitrogen.The thing i was inferring is called dieseling. Of course in saying that i was *assuming* the accumulators are part of a hydraulic system which may not be the case?
@@ronchappel4812 no not for the hydraulics for the blade or rippers. The transmission is a power shift transmission with a torque converter so it's basically a hydraulic system so technically yes it's used on a hydraulic system but for the transmission only and if I remember correctly it's a totally separate system of the transmission.
@@ronchappel4812 If I'm remembering right you have the transmission and it's fluid that operates the transmission then there's a small reservoir of oil that feeds another pump which goes to the accumulators that operates the steering clutches that controls the high and low speeds of the planetary gears. It's been several years since I've worked on that old dozer.
Awesome work Warren, these guys are damned lucky your their mechanic..never mickey mouse anything, always fair, right on man..oh yeah, and you love your job, try and find those qualities elsewhere, friggen impossible...
Working on a 7130 John Deere today at work. Come home for lunch, watch Warren, and go back to work. Similar routine most days. Appreciate learning from you Warren. Always try to learn something new every day.
My grand dad used to say, "if you ain't learning something everyday, you ain't livin". That's one thing I've always caught grief on, on any and all of my equipment, I get a service manual on them. Some are very expensive but, long run, saves a ton of money when you fix it yourself, rather are capable of fixing it yourself. Great video. Cheers :)
There are 2 huge disc brakes under mainframe cover that brake the planet carrier or the ring gear to give 2 speeds. usual problems are the very high pressure brake pistons leaking and or the brake pads worn out. unfortunately the cab and fuel tank have to be completely removed to get to the cover and it is a monster.
Hi Warren, We have run Dresser TD 15E, and TD20E, for over 20 years. Usually the finals R good if there is no metal fillings when U pull the plugs. We have never had an issue with the 2 speed steering system. There is a Dresser expert, salvage guy, Collins Equipment, from Dresden Tennesse. We have sourced parts, advice, and info from him. Not sure if he wrenched on the TD 25 a lot.
We have a dresser loader. Idk the year and the hr meter has been changed so no idea of hrs just that it has alot. That thing is the most bulletproof thing I have ever seen. The engine has had an engine oil line snatched loose and ran until it locked down, or whatever you would call it. It shut off kinda like it had ran out of fuel. They fixed the line the next day, filled it up w oil and it fired right up. Has done the same thing w water twice. Fortunately I have never been on it when any water or oil lines have been ripped off. It stays in the woods clea ring for 95 percent of the time, has skidder tires on it. The rear end has broke loose from it and tried to walk on up under the loader.that wasn't fixed back right, our local welding shop fixed all of that back best he could. I am always on the trackhoe thank goodness when these things happen to it but it has been severely rode hard and put up wet. I doubt any tank ever made by any military has anything on this loader. It has been thru way more than any piece of equipment I have ever seen ever, it has weird hydraulic and fuel caps that are hard to find to replace and spent prolly 2 yrs or so wo a fuel cap on it. I would try to rig something up on it and they would tear it all apart within a day or so. Right now you can go get on it and it will fire up and carry you wherever you need to go. I don't see how it's still going.
Hey waren I worked on a td20 dresser it had run a big end bearing it had a v8 international engine after I did the engine I could not get it to drive after removing the transmission and a complete rebuild it still would not drive after a lot of money and stress I found the suction hose had collapsed on the inside so we replaced all hoses it had planetary stering but the tracks always stayed driving very strong dozer but a awful thing to work on good luck finding information I had the same problem it was when they went from international to dresser keep up the good videos
I have owned my own shop in So. Ca. for over 25 years. I think I know my way around repairs and try as best as we all do to keep up with the constant changes in our business. I am just another runner in the LA automotive rat race. This series of videos has been the best 'binge' viewing I've ever done. Your philosophy and attitude is so much more than admirable. What strikes me most is your fearlessness in all circumstances. This is because I realize this comes from your expertise, years of experience almost absolute mastery of your craft. BTW, is it just me or does everyone feel like going out and acquiring a dozer?.... Many thanks for the education.
Love to watch video’s really enjoy so scared you working by self am 86 year old but wish you wash your truck it was beautiful when bought but you work hard
Blake gives you the biggest impact and battery to remove the already loose clamp nuts...haha Thank's for taking the time to video, upload, and share so the rest of us can learn. I might never work on a dresser BUT ... you never know when the knowledge you share, will come in handy on another similar piece of equipment...
on the smaller dressers the steering levers with the spools you were refering to, one spool runs the steering clutch and if you pull back far enough it brakes that sides track as well
In the 70s, Dresser bought Marion Power Shovels, which had bought up Galion (and Allis of Brazil). Allis de Brazil was renamed Galion, and all the products were eventually Drasser-Galion. Then oil went sour in the 80s, and Dresser wound up part of Slumberger. The oil biz parts of that were taken up by Haliburton; the machinery and equipment divisions wound up being boughtby all sorts of companies.
I’m gonna look for shop book tomorrow for you. I work for Komatsu dealer and every once in a while I work on old Dressers. I can tell that being a mechanic 20-30 years ago was a lot more enjoyable. The parts books are on microfish.
love watching your videos bud. From one diesel tech to another. Ive worked on powerstrokes and road tractors for 15 years. If you ever have a powerstroke question jus message me. Thanks again for what you're doing.
I used to be an equipment mechainc for siskiyou county at the dorris yard small world you were right down the road! Your a dieing breed excellent mechainc stand by your work im sure you stay busy out there so much work with the strawberry plant growers potatos and alfalfa not much else out there i used to commute over the hill from weed got sick of the drive thats a dangerous road!
Always enjoy your Video's Warren. Those are certainly throaty sounding engines in those things. Keep up the great work and keep lookin' for those diamonds after they fall out of some of your cutomers.
Warren at least they both run and that's half the battle. helped a friend dig out a 51 Clevtrac he spent hundreds of dollars on shipping fuel pump to a guy shipping used roller to him and all kinds of parts not to mention the 100 mile one way trip every time we worked on it , now it sits in a new location broke down again enjoy the videos was a operator for 40 years seen a lot of dresser iron in my life , hard part about doing what your doing is the owner is the same kinda guy as my neighbor , kinda why I'm welded now 👍
i helped my dad replace all the rollers and factory rock guards on his TD20 last fall, man what a bitch that was, almost every roller bolt was broken off , ended up having to melt them out with a torch and re tapp every damn hole!
Why it's very important to change bolts and keep the threads (wet) every few years. My old mans equipment always gets new bolts and nuts every other 2 years just to keep them loose enough to get out but fresh threat to ensure you will be able to disassemble quickly to replace parts
I remember the local dealer bring n these to our town fair in nh back 30 yrs ago...big jobs are best to work on...not that far from home...yeah swap bolt sides w chains off..I think you might need a excavator to give you a hand w that lift...cheers..thank you warren for your service...ciao
just like a box of mixed snacks at Christmas, every handful has a whole new mix. And you thought you seen most of the mix of setups. I hope Forest fire season doesn't come early. Great to see the variety of jobs, they make you scratch your head , but you seem to win each ! good job !
Had hose blown on bevel gear set before cab off fuel tank off hydraulic tank off mountain of bolts hole top plate has to come off above steering clutches and bevel gear
K series Cummins engines are legend...........there were some in Australia pulling 3 trailer road trains and there were unbeatable for power,fuel economy and reliability.
Cat grousers Why cannot you get made up, a cast - bolt on additional grouser. use the two bolts rear- adjacent to the old Grouser -when fitted -weld backside/ front - to the old one. A set of longer bolts and the cast replacement will be far cheaper than new tracks. This would be a good job for a casting foundry
The easiest way to put belly pans on is the take a chain and hook on the opposit side track chain under The belly Pan or to change back to the winch on Ur crane sitting right beside to hood and you lift up on the crane with your remote and you can Guide the belly Pan right straight up.. the loose side of the chain hooks to the Crane the other side hook to the track and write up it goes no Jack needed
I was doing some work for the Marines at camp lejeune when i was in the Navy we watched them replace a both tank treads on a Abrams in less than 5 minutes. We built two concrete pads at the exact same elevation like 500 yards apart so they can set up the lasers they use to aim the main gun.
Warren We got into a couple of those pull out , swap out deals. 1 customer asked what kind of warranty came with it. Felt bad when we said your used parts. None.
Is that two speed steering not planatery steering ithe same as and inherited from the TD24s and TD25s they did not have steering cluches it was straight out planatery steering with a high low on eack track excellent for breaking out on steep country etc had some years experiance on those mchines Regards Les
Yeah, its the same as the 24, 25 & 30, a series of planetary gears and disc brakes, good system just need to keep the adjustments up to them. I think the later ones went to self adjusting multiple disc brakes instead of the single disc brakes the early 25 & 30 had. I spent a lot of time on IH machines back in the 60s 70s & 80s. Liked them as a machine, way ahead of Cat in their day.
Yes they are a hot rod. I worked in a surface mine with over 12 D 9"s and we couldn't keep the Dresser in the pits. They liked the shop too much, so they were done away with. Hard to work on and parts were hard to get.
Those inspections are pretty serious they don't want people to be in danger in the middle of a bad situation fighting fires. I have fought close to 50 over the last 7 years. I had to take the communication guys up to the antenna because they helicopters didn't have a safe place to land and in the process of going up the trail and damaged 2 wheels and tires and the mechanics went over everything after we got back from the antenna they replaced the 2 wheels and put brand new tires on my truck and they told me that was the reason why they inspect everything that comes to work wildfires. That was my first wildfire and the first time getting hit by a drunk driver that broke 6 in my neck and 15 in my back didn't effect me from working
Just saw the earlier video of Ford service truck blowing the 8th cylinder. Now I see the swapping of parts on the dozers. Hell, you can't be painted into a corner.
I think he said there were more problems with the undercarrage. We did that to a Deere 450 one time and they outlasted the rest of the undercarrage.......
This is a piece of cake for a spanner man like you Warren. Some of these owners just run them their machines into the ground instead of getting them serviced regular. Look after your machines and they look after you.
From what I know , dresser is international . I never worked on these dozer before. But international , fiatallis(allis chalmers) , Terex , komatsu dozer are very good dozer . Much better than cat dozer.
FP Smith equipment in Cordelia / Fairfield ca. is a Dresser specialist. Ask for Pete Smith ( Piggy) . You might know him already. Ships around the world. Apparently largest independent equipment parts dealer in world. Wealth of knowledge. Has vintage Cat, International, Hough, Dresser. That two speed track set up works well on slopes. My two bits. Great job on the Channel. Dresser was the only factory in Poland to the Germans didn't bomb. Built Panzersthere. Adios!
These IH/ Dressee dozers have two speed steeri g where you can put one track in high and the order in low and make power turns. Great for pushing around curves etc. Contact me for more info.
I don’t know of any other machine that puts the power to the ground that those do. They are a little bit fragile on there final drives Did land clearing Few years with one awesome dozer
A good helper is better than a third hand if he does nothing more than get tools and fetch stuff. Without him you make 329 trips back to the toolbox every day. Up and down and it gets harder every year. I share your frustration with the old equipment since almost all of my stuff is old and orphans.
Warren, I have a problem. 2010 Deere 8320R, teir 3 engine, IVT transmission and suspended front axle. Remote 1 and the 3 point will not move, steering and brakes work and so do remotes 2-5. Any ideas where to look?
