Am I better than the Fiverr Artists I paid?... 

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I have no money

Ok

Can it ship to Austria?

@@verhelmu2305 yes I’m pretty sure

Was there supposed to be a witch in there?

Yeah, at first I was a little taken aback but now that you mention it, what the Fiverr artist did was SUPER early era d&d manual style, TO A T! like, nailed the prompt. That said, there was a little disconnect it didn't look like how the commissioner envisioned and that just falls to lack of back and forth dialogue

@@turpskadey Agreed, I'd say the budget didn't quite fit the project, as the simplicity makes that style. Should've switched the first and second prompt, I want some high def pancakes!

Idk the second artist's piece looks more like a cartoon or picture book than a tarot card to me. I'd actually say their examples on their page look more like tarot than that they made here

@@stellasdoesstuff problem is "tarot card" isnt really a good style, there is so many different designs, artists and interpretations they needed to refrence a specfic collection or artist, it would be like me asking someone to draw me a "comic" styled artwork and getting mad because it wasnt the specfic style i wanted

True

There should have been like four to choose from at each price range

@@recoveringsoul755 that would be lot of expenses

@@Pranjal_Raut well after what he said, that to be worth his time he'd need to whip out a 500 piece in a few minutes, he can afford it. Not sure how taxes work down under, but in the states any money you spend on self employment is a write off against your income. Unless the laws changed

I'm comfortable not comparing the 500 dollar ones. I think that they're both equally good in different ways

agreed! and the Fiverr one's style felt more fitting with the fantasy/DnD prompt given

They would have definitly known which one was Jazza's piece just from looking at it.

@@jobbeka2595 Yeah, Jazza should've just picked up someone who doesn't know his style well

ya think it would have been best if they got random people and showed the two without showing who made it

would it have been better if it was a fair test?

I think they’d recognize his work even if it had been anonymous - but that’s a very good point.

Wouldn't have mattered, it's his own employees they know his art style. They would have spotted which one was him as soon as they saw it.

@@jobbeka2595 well then, he can just do a different style

@Lina Wael lol

@@taurus6392 even when he tries to do a different style, it’s still his style and you can tell he made it

i agree

Agreed

Agreed. Maybe a round 2 video in the future

Agreed

This, for sure!

lol i totally kept saying that while he was drawing it "you forgot the rapier!"

hmm maybe I should up my prices a bit then, but I don't get many commissions anyways so maybe not

@@danielrko9895 In the end you want your prices to be worth your time. Like if you take 10 hours to make something but only sell it for like, 20 dollars, you're only making 2 dollars an hour But you also should be paid for your skill. Even if it takes only 30 minutes to make something, you've spent years honing your skill to be able to do that (assuming that the drawing actually does look good and not sloppy). But this is also contradicted by how much normal people are willing to pay for your art. If you raise your prices when few people commissioned you to begin with, you'll probably be making less money than you would have before because no one would be commissioning you. I recommend keeping up multiple social media accounts and promoting yourself, and when you have a steady flow of commissions you can raise your price a little

@@mariadantzler2991 me too

I think.. not really, well at least at his level of commitment to a comission work. Just remember how auction of his pictures vent, many, many works of that level was sold for less than a 500$ event given they have additional value because they made by famous Jazza.

Your avatar looks nice, did you draw it by yourself? :)

@@arnvonsalzburg5033 yeah I did like 8 years ago or something 😆

yeah, the glow in the middle looked like they were trying to hide some struggle, but the rest of the vector-looking inking was really really good!

Yes!

I thought the same thing! They did a fantastic job following the description

Felt the same. Jazza's piece is more beautiful but the fiver artist filled the prompt better from what I know about tarot style (I don't remember what the more detailed version of this style looks like, I've only ever seen the other one)

Agree

Naaa they sucked

Sadly this is very much accurate

It really is a popularity contest. Once I learned that, I felt so heartbroken.

Seems like marketing and salesmanship figures in heavily, so if you aren't the type to blow your own horn, but you focus on customer service and the art, it'll take longer to get anywhere. Might be word of mouth that helps you

@@recoveringsoul755 yeah, I realised this a few weeks ago actually, whe looking at some artists that have 10k followers yet their art is awesome, they have a wide range of skills but it’s so under appreciated, then there’s a few people with 500k to 2mil followers that are “one trick ponies” where all their art is basically the same pose and hair etc except with something ever so slightly different. The main reason they have 500k+ followers is because they are gods at marketing their work and somewhat as you said, toot their own horn. So all in all I think these artists are more “influencers” than artists/painters

This is also true for the music producers. There are artists who are better than alan walker and marshmello but they haven't figured out how to market their music. It's like being popular is successful even if you are just medicore.

So true

So i guess if you're a mid-tier artist it's safer to put on 25 than 250, and once you're very confident with your skills go 500 🤔 interesting

Same

@@aeoligarlic4024 as a commission artist??? if so you grow with your demand, where you increase when you are getting enough commissions.

For jazza the $250 is about what I would expect but fir some random on fiverr I'd expect the best piece they could possibly put out. Now if it was a well known artist that was on fiverr then that's a different story

That was my view too. Although I like Jazza's piece the other piece, to me, had a 100% feel of tarot card art.

I agree! There’s a special feel to the commissioned one. Jazzas is obviously amazing and technical but theres no style .

honestly loved them both. From my perspective as someone that frequently makes comissions, the Jazza one felt like it was a good one that I would use for reference. It has clear, beautiful details of the characters, and with how they were posed gave me the impression that they were a team. The fiver commission is a gorgeous and detailed piece, but looking at it from a mobile phone (which is how I watched the vid) almost detracted from it because its so busy I would have to zoom in to be able to truly see the details. It all just depends on what the commissioner was hoping to get from the art.

@@RiaKaze that's how I felt as well. It was like they did 3 different drawings within on piece. The one on the left was just so.... Busy. I love the style of the backgrounds this person does, but I think they should separate the background busy-ness-sssss with a foreground simplicity. Or vice versa.

@@RiaKaze took the words right outta my mouth friend

completely disagree. for 500 dollars, i would expect him to get into my head and do exactly what i sketched, but WAY better than i would have. imo, he 100% delivered that.

there are more detailed cards, so jazza isnt so off theme

@@aleks5352 yea i don't know what people are talking about. I have tarot cards and they look more like the fivver's artist actual style instead of that simple drawing. If it was a 50 dollar commission instead of 250 I think it wouldn't have been so disappointing. I doubt the artist spent more than 30 mins on that drawing

Yha but there his friends to and they seem truthful enought

Yeah but his artwork was actually banging man. The fiverr artists were great tho, especially the final one imo

They would know which is his by style easy.

I agree. And he didn’t even link to the artists in the text below the video. The whole video gave me a bit of a weird feeling.. idk

​@foxo boi Agreed 100%, and I adore Jazza. It just felt like this video was a "but look what ***I*** made" video.

Ima be real. I think this vid was just for his new marker set. He mentioned it as as possible

I will start with what I disagree with you Anastasia. In my opinion, artistic fields like drawing are one of the most competitive fields, and here he is a contender, competing with other artists, That's why you see less of gratitude/appreciation and more of criticism/judgment, its the nature of a competition, its an intrinsic element of it. It is different from what Jazza is used to do normally, and this is what you noticed. So, what he did here is naturally correct, but unusual for many to see him in a competitive manner. You appear to me to be against his competitive behavior (and I might be wrong). If my assumption is true, I have to say that I use to be against competition myself and believed in cooperation only, but recently come to realize how important competition is, it should never be discouraged, its one of the primary drivers for us humans to learn and improve and for the fields we are working in to develop and flourish. And now for what I agree with you on. Having the staff rate him is wrong, as a bias towards him will consciously or unconsciously happen as there is a conflict of interest. But I think this is due to the pressure of time and the pressure to come up with new ideas.

I mean to be fair he paid them 500 dollars and 250

Agreed, I don’t know why we’re comparing artworks. At least they were paid to have their art put through that 🤷‍♀️

1. They were paid. 2. They got free publicity as well. I feel they got more than enough

Exactly. Isnt his whole thing not to compare art to others? N that all art is good? This seems kinda off to me :///

AGREED

Agreed, worse is that there are no links etc in the description. Just cus they're fiver artists doesn't mean they don't deserve the same respect as RU-vidrs etc. They are collaborators, so you gotta link and credit. This just rubbed me the wrong way

i frikin love the 25 dollar commissiona nd the 500 :O

@@snowball1 how old are you

@@oklljkml how old are they kinda weird question

@@rhongomyniad3540 just asking

Beung

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they are freelance it’s their choice how much they get paid

Sad truth about artist is only few makes it big even if they are skilled. Most lives humble life.

Those platforms are a race to the bottom.

Who are u talking about. The fiver artists?

@@trollrat2828 they can charge as much as they want but most of their customers are teens with piggy bank change

Back when I used to draw a lot, and each time with my whole heart & soul, I never colored them in. It just looked so good the way it was to me. Or I was afraid I'd "mess it up". & when I did try to practice my coloring in coloring books and such, I just didn't have the patience or dedication for it.

They didnt specify color either in the commission.

It's the dollars per hour you normally get compared to how much time you could spend doing art. So if your average hourly rate works out to 1k then you can't spend an hour doing a $25 art piece, even if that's what you love doing. I wonder if your boss would love to really dig into a tech problem

"You don't pay me $100 for the hour. You pay me for the 20 years of experience leading up to that hour"

@@tanwencooper6928 well said

@@tanwencooper6928 exactly, and that’s why it’s a small pet peeve of mine when people go “wow ur so talented” to any artist or really anything, because those skills take time to learn and perfect, it wasn’t like they were just born with it

I don't think you need to be sorry, everyone has their own opinions and art is ver subjective, a masterpiece to you can ba a garbage to others But then again, that's just my opinion 😏

@@AudkdmdKv well i apologized because i could not even get half of what they drew so yeah

@@amusing3632 now I feel the same 😅

@@AudkdmdKv welcome to the trash at drawing but still watches random drawing videos which you know you can never achieve club