My mom taught us since young not to buy/use things if can't afford it, regardless whether it's luxury or not. I don't use fake and only buy luxury items when I can afford it. It's a sense of achievement when I buy it with my hard-earned money.
Just a little too late for the premiere (stupid day job!), but I'm here for being stupid, not buying fakes, and demanding consistent outrage! TRUTH! 🙋♀
As a design student I used to get very fired up about stealing ideas. But recently I've been thinking about how, in a way, it's a totally modern concept. For example, no one knows exactly how the process of distilling alcohol or making gunpowder came to be, it's assumed to have originated in China, but eventually became a part of "human" knowledge via trade. Or, if it was desirable to own an item from a specific artisan/master, it's because their skill and use of material was unparalleled, as in - they could show exactly what and how they did, and there wouldn't be another person capable of replicating it. As you pointed out, fakes used to be extremely bad and obvious, but with the rise of the so called super fakes, ones that match the material and assembly quality exactly or even better than the original, it shatters the facade of the original manufacturers, that they and they alone possess access to the skill and materials required to create the item in question. In a way, all ideas eventually reach the state of public domain, and trying to fight it with copy right laws is... futile. It used to be that if you wanted to hear a piece of music, you either had to go to a live concert, or learn to play it yourself. Illegal downloading is a symptom of modern technology and the best way to fight it is to make the original as cheap as possible, so that trying to illegally download a movie or album is actually not worth the effort. I think luxury brands raising prices as drastically as they have, in the last few years especially, have driven the rise in popularity of fakes. If a Chanel CF cost 2k as it would adjusted for inflation when it was released, people wouldn't bother with a super fake that cost 1k. Another interesting fact is that copying was encouraged by even the most famous designers - Cristobal Balenciaga would copy Parisian designers, in fact, Madame Gres would share her patterns with him. There was no gatekeeping of ideas, because there was mutual respect and the notion that there is enough business for everyone. Also, the European factories that produce luxury goods often use illegal immigrants from North Africa and Asia, who work in very poor conditions and have no rights if anything happens to them (there are multiple documentaries on the subject available on youtube too). Luxury houses are also notorious for treating interns and models horribly, paying junior designers very poorly, stealing from indie designers and monopolizing the manufacturing and marketing processes. LVMH and Kering etc have very likely participated in aggressive takeovers and put small companies out of businesses... So, immoral practices are everywhere, but there's only so much that we can pay attention to, thus our outrage too is inevitably biased. Luxury houses, like the rich bored women of NY, seem to be very good at distracting the public from any sketchy practices of their own. It's all very interesting - memetics and virtue signaling... Meredith, I am so sorry for this incredibly long comment! I've just been thinking about this for a long time. Beneath a seemingly frivolous topic like handbags, there are many philosophical ideas :).
When I was in law school in Los Angeles in the late 2000s, I volunteered to help people with labor disputes. While there are people who try to break the rules even in big companies or people they subcontract, if it is a legally operated business mistreated workers can come forward, including undocumented workers in Los Angeles. However, when workers are working on inherently illegal activities (like creating and selling fakes, selling or making drugs, etc), they have no remedies. They cannot seek recourse. Illegal business operations inherently allows for exploitation of workers, destruction of the environment, and lack of accountability for faulty or misrepresented goods. We have well developed and ever evolving laws in the U.S. to help with the protection of creation and design. There is a big spectrum of design that can be inspired by versus direct copies, and there is big difference in ethics. If we do not provide people to reap the financial and other benefits of creating new (design, technology, etc), less will be created over time. You can see it in countries that do not offer these protections.
Becoming as good as the original creator and making your own copy is fine. But why are you putting the original creator’s logo on it and trying to pass it off as theirs? If yours is just as good, then sell it as such. There is no excuse for pretending “lying” about being the real thing.
Well said. I feel proud when I have the real thing no matter what it is. Not because of anyone else’s thoughts and opinions but entirely based on my joy at owning the item.
I hate fakes and I also Hate Dupes! I don't thin there's a difference really. Most times dupes are just bag fakes. I can't understand why people support such an industry. I agree wholeheartedly with what you have said and Love your channel! Bravo!
Also, the bottom line is the Chinese is outsourcing all the work they are taking work away from the Italian and French people. They are under bidding everyone I just watched a documentary where people went undercover and YSL and Gucci items which are supposed to be ethically made, and all that there’s ways around it even at the leather tanneries and things people are getting abused, so it starts with the brands needing to make their own products! That’s why I think the fakes I’ve gotten so good because they have access to all the technology all the materials and they’ve been working on this for 20 or 30 years they have perfected it they don’t appreciate fashion they don’t appreciate the heritage of the brands or the legacy they do not love fashion like us Meredith ❤
I'm blushing! Thank you for such kind words about me! It's nice to know my innate brilliance is shining through in my content. ;) Fantastic video. I especially enjoyed your conversation around lifestyle creep. I found the research results in Dayle's video fascinating. I need to plan my entry into this conversation. You two have covered a heck of a lot but I might have a thing or two to add. Thanks for linking your references. I'm going to check them out.
Thank you for this video Meredith! I appreciate your viewpoint and I am I total agreement with this. I am so glad more influencers are talking about fakes and what is funded when people purchase fakes.
I love your honest and unwavering opinion on this matter. I wonder how many people think about or really know the background to the fake luxury industry. I will be honest that I am newer to the “luxury community” and I have learned a lot in the last several months, watching videos, reading articles, and just doing my research. Before I became a part of this community, I would not have had a clue who Balenciaga was or anything that was happening with that company. I think it’s important that people put the truth out there and spread that word around for people who are unaware of the truths.
Hi Meredith, how are you? What really bothers me here is that people are being so rude, and insulting you. I feel sad that you feel the need to justify yourself. You are a collector, people collect all types of things. I find your videos interesting and I am grateful that you make them. Have a beautiful day. ❤
From someone that worked in fashion for 34 years I’ve seen a lot…real, fakes & so on… just to make it clear I don’t buy fakes but I’ve definitely seen a few and they are not made by 3 yr olds…these are very well made bags… to be honest if the person didn’t tell me it was a fake I wouldn’t have known…and as far as honesty in these big fashion houses well that’s gone down the toilet for me also… they haven’t made their billions from being honest…I worked as an SA..long hours… targets to meet…grumpy customers & crappy wages and I’m Australian so my thoughts 🤷♀️no judgement
Yes, but you have employment law and government departments to support you if you felt your work conditions were not appropriate. The people being forced to make these bags, or even making them for next to nothing, don't have those same protections.
I totally agree with you on this subject. I don’t want a fake or counterfeit Kelly. I like the style of the Kelly and I will never own a genuine Kelly unless someone gifts it to me or I win the lottery and Hermes offers me one. There are handbags that remind me of the Kelly made by other fashion houses but these companies don’t market their bag as a genuine Hermes Kelly. You are so right that the different brands are influenced by each other and that is okay. Selling a fake product and passing it off as the real thing is wrong. The fact that these counterfeiters are criminals who prey on the weak makes it even more despicable. Thank you for being so thorough in pointing out the hypocrisy and the lack of morals or compassion demonstrated by people who buy fake/counterfeit goods just to pass them off as genuine. Kudos, Meredith!
I've accidentally got a replica Kelly, it's not pretending to be Hermés, but when I bought it I was young, clueless and near the Happy Valley racecourse in Hong Kong. It was in a handbag shop not a stall in a market. I thought that's a nice basic leather bag. Since I realised what it was I have hardly worn it. But haven't thrown it out either. I don't wear it any place where someone might think I'm being a pretender. Truly I have to throw it out it's just inertia that keeps me hanging onto it.
You can own an authentic Kelly start saving your money make up a plan and accomplish the goal. I buy all my handbags with cash it can be done. I started with nothing and wanted bags in my early 20s and 42 now and have mostly what I want it can be done trust me
You are so articulate! Totally agree with you on this subject. Thank you for sharing your perspective as a business owner with IP that you have worked hard on! I can’t even begin to imagine how incredibly frustrating and disheartening it must be to see people steal your IP and use it without your permission. And I agree, just because Hermès and Chanel are making billions, that does not entitle engine to profit off of their designs. Lifestyle creep is a real thing and can for sure happen at any income bracket. If those ladies publicly owned the fact that their bags are not authentic, that would be a different story (of course still bad because of everything that goes on in producing these fakes…). But this portraying of affluence and abundance and of a lifestyle that is not financially sustainable…just for clicks and views? I can not support that in any way.
Completely agree with everything you said. I have never bought anything I can't afford or put anything on credit nor would I buy a fake. Quite simply I would rather go without. In fact I took early retirement 3 years ago, then realised I could no longer afford my luxury 'habit' so took a little job now I can buy a couple of bags and other luxury items a year. Never even occurred to me to buy fakes instead. I'd rather go back to work. I don't want any part of the fake industry...it disgusts me.
Great video Meredith!! Love how you were so proud to label yourself a “snob”- very empowering. As someone who shares the same views on fakes, I’ve always held my mouth shut in fear of being labeled as such. Your channel has been one I’ve continuously loved watching so just wanted to know you’ve gained a loyal follower ❤️💕
Yes me too but I don’t really care what people think I want the truth to be out there. There are several documentaries about how China is the leader and replica everything people go to work 9 to 5 jobs normal every day situations in China making handbags and shoes and sunglasses etc. I visited China and seen for myself as well as get message all the time by sellers wanting me to try their products out. I’ve seen all different types of quality. Some of my friends have fakes. I cannot tell the difference between my real and they’re fake scary! And yes, some of my friends are more wealthy than me and they buy replica. I love the heritage of the brands I support, and the history of fashion and design I have loved art my entire life some people don’t have the same passion they just want the look ! ❤
For people to say "Nobody knows it's a fake" is the same analogy as "Nobody knows I told a terrible lie"....you know!!!! Isn't the most important thing in this life is what we feel!!! This is just MY thinking but people who carry real handbags care more about how they feel and people who carry fakes care more about how other people feel. Keep up the great content👍
A very intelligent and logical approach to this topic. You are absolutely on point, and I couldn’t agree more; especially with the ethical and moral imbalance. Thank you for taking the time to share your point of view.
Great points Meredith. 25:21 I would add that being a legal business creates some accountability (even if not publicly traded) that illegal businesses do not. This applies to a wide-range of issues, like employees being able to enforce labor laws, consumers being able to take action if a product is misrepresented, payment of taxes, environmental regulation and so on. A person or group making illegal products, like fakes in countries where they are illegal, are inherently not subject to following and enforcement of all laws regulating businesses and individuals.
This is a fantastic point, and I add to it the financial statements companies need to present that are detailed and audited for review by a board and shareholders. This adds further transparency to the ways companies are run.
@@livingluxwithmeredith You make an excellent point Meredith about the additional accountability and transparency of the financial statements required for the board and shareholders. I appreciate you presenting a detailed video about this important topic.
To a certain level I agree with you. However, if we are going to talk about funding criminal crime, child labor etc. We all should dig deeper. I do think this economy system in general is build to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Unless you know how to play the game. And it's very sad. I feel the topic of fake handbags is vain, when other much serious topic of injustice isn't play. Love you videos and I will continue to watch them.
There are most certainly other topics that could be discussed however as a luxury channel it makes sense that I 'stay in my lane' so to speak. I also argue that in some cases wealth distribution can be looked at differently country to country so I would be a hard topic to cover in an international way.
This was one of the most interesting, thoughtful & well researched videos I've seen on this topic. So many excellent points. Thank you for sharing, Meredith!
I really really really would love to hear more about lifestyle creep. I know this is my second comment on it but I know that you didn’t come from money and so I’m sure based off how eloquently you’ve touched on the topic already you have some first-hand experience with this, and I think that experience is invaluable.
Thank you you brought some new perspective to the conversation, and you had excellent points. “Keep it real babe”. Gosh, I wish I could remember who said that quote
The influencer thing has turned me off of brands/bags. I don’t care when it’s legit celebrities who we all are pretty sure have a contact. It’s the “influencers” who have massive followings but lack integrity. It cheapens the brands and the bags for me.
This is only a question. Do we know from facts who makes the real handbags or any other products we buy for that matter. Idk, just posing the question. It does matter, at least to me. Good to draw attention to that. Great video.
Thank you for your question. Large companies, especially those traded publicly must produce detailed financial documents for presentation to the board members and share holders. These are audited and detailed. So while we can't say with absolute complete certainty, it would be very hard for a company to hide dodgy practices under that kind of microscope.
I totally agree with you on all your opinions and views on this topic. Thanks for sharing the research you have found around this. I remember after Highschool I was invited to a ‘tupperware party’ and I was intrigued because no one would actually give me a straight answer through out the event. I kept trying to understand what and where these bags came from, and why they were all squished together into 5-6 tubs. Why they were priced so cheap, and why no one was talking about the quality of the handbag. Needless to say I did not buy anything, but I did not understand until later that day, after the event was over, I pulled someone aside and was like cut the BS, tell me are these real of fakes. She said “of course they are fake” I was shocked at how many of these girls were totally cool with spending $200-300 on these fake handbags. And encouraging others that this is the way to go. And making fun of others like myself that declined purchasing anything, because I was saving up for my first designer bag. The whole room laughed at me and called me a stupid girl, who has a lot to learn. And I kept my head high, and didn’t let it affect me. But moral of the story I’m trying to make it’s even worse now, than it was in the early 2000’s. Jasmin
What a terrible experience for you, but I applaud you for sticking to your morals and saving for the real thing. Thank you for sharing your experience.
I loved hearing your take and also calling out the hypocrisy of people who want to pile on Balenciaga for an ad campaign but don’t even care to investigate how and where fakes are made or whom they effect. 👏
10:10 stupid for working hard and spending money on lux handbags? what? this is one person's opinion, and shes speaking as if it is fact. Hard working people with money can spend their money how they wish. Are people stupid for buying cars, nice alcohol, or designer furniture? This person really doesnt know how to formulate an opinion
So many good points today! I know of someone who sells fakes on FB and is probably making tons of money in doing so. The amount of people that buy them is crazy. I won’t support buying fakes for as many reasons as you discussed today. I can’t afford all of the luxury bags but when I do purchase, it’s real and credited to the company that makes them. I wouldn’t want someone stealing from me…. There is nothing better than working hard and splurging on something I appreciate. 🎉
Well said. I am an artist, writer and designer. I have had my work stollen a lot. You video was well presented to speak out for what is morally and ethically right. You also did a great job in education your audience on this subject.
Some good points Meredith but do we really know enough of what goes on behind closed doors regarding the products we buy. The laws of most countries are so old and grey, its only when things are brought to media attention that changes come about, and the general public get to hear the truth of business practices. For example, just after I watched your video, I did a quick read of an article published in Vogue Business titled 'Inside Hermes Where leather factories are still the future.' Oct 2021. As stated in the article, Hermes do not reveal what they pay their workers. The article even questioned whether they get as much as the minimum wage. Not very transparent. Business practice is only stepping up speed in my opinion as they are running scared of being exposed. I loathe everything that Hermes stands for and I am gobsmacked how and why people support them. They are neither honest nor transparent. Do they value their customers....nope. They have zero respect of how hard people work to earn the money just to buy a bag. Cannot understand how countries allow them to get away with it. For example, a young person may just love Levis jeans. Levis do not some sneaky business practice make that person purchase other Levi products before they are even in the running for the jeans they so lovingly want. Even after the ridiculous other spend there's still no guarantee that young person will score their jeans. Thats what Hermes do to hard working people. We do not all own businesses that through hard work might be successful enough to play the Hermes game. Some of us are mere public servants that work our butts off....I work in a hospital. I will never buy from Hermes until they start respecting people and are transparent with their customers. Little wonder they happen to be one of the richest family in the world. So no, I would never buy a fake product, but I also will never support any product that in some way blatantly abuses people good will and hard work, has zero values and is not transparent in their business dealings. Even the article you referred to was not transparent. I sometimes do wonder of how much of what we read is made up or not anywhere near the truth of the matter. Love you input on these types of topics. One last idea, if Hermes respected their customers maybe the people who buy their fakes would refrain through sheer respect of the brand. This could possibly be a slippery slope Hermes has created of their own doing.
I appreciate your thoughts on this and wonder if you have extended your research into other brands? Hermes is one of the last privately owned luxury companies in the world, most are publicly traded and therefore have to prepare financial reports that are audited and presented to board members and share holders. I can certainly see how Hermes could not have the same issues with transparency as other companies do.I myself have not undertaken any research on this topic, but am certainly open to exploring it.
Really fascinating look at this topic. Coming from the watch world... i dont really know where to start with respect to all the differences I'm seeing on this topic between how its treated in bags vs how its treated in watches.
@Living Lux with Meredith yeah but I dont see the same... contentions as I'm seeing with watches. I guess watches are a lot closer to other collectibles. Eg. Say some kind of super rare baseball card is only really cool if its real right? No point otherwise. Thats what I see most from the watch community. Excellent fakes exist, but it doesnt really scratch the market of real watches in terms of demand. And theres no external hand wringing, as in, people dislike fakes because they are fake. Not because some industry body says they are linked to terrorists.
Ok I've collected Coach and Brahmin handbags for prob 25 years. I have purchased 3 AUTHENTIC LV bags. There's no way I could ever carry a fake...just can't do it...I TOTALLY agree w what you've said in this video. To me, if you're carrying a fake bag, u should be ashamed....I HATE FAKES!!!
Very interesting video. I never thought about these topics, so thank you. I hope you continue to intertwine these types of videos with your luxury ones.
I've certainly thought about buying fake bags an never thought about who I would be supporting by doing so. You made it easy for me to decide not to so thank you!!
Now, this is a very elaborate topic and very touchy to many people too! I'm not even getting into the "perfection" aka first copy whatever these fakes are made. The entirety of the "problem" is when ppl debate if one will come to know if its an original or fake. And THIS actually is the whole problem. It doesnt matter if someone comes to know if its a fake or a real one. Its equivalent to someone rocking a fake/artificial diamond on their ring. You cant always tell that either...and, No one cares. In my opinion when you wear something that is Fake , NOT DUPE ..but FAKE , you are offending/insulting the idea/originality/creativity of the person/persons who came out with the design, the idea and spend hours on it. Doesnt matter the price its going for in the market. We live in a globalised aggressive economy. No one is forcing anyone to buy any "luxury" item. Its your own desire. Also how derogatory and petty of anyone to say or think ''dont spend your hard earned money" on these items. In that case DON'T buy it period. Why buy it as a FAKE?? and portray that you are affluent or whatever . I do own few designer bags, I love the luxury of it, period. The day I feel i'm not loving it anymore, will be the end of it and beginning of non branded items, simple! xoxo 🙂🙃
I totally agree with what your saying! I believe in not buying fakes!! I don’t have many luxury handbags but what I do own I love!! As always Meredith- I enjoy watching your videos!!😍
Hi. I’m a bit confused because when I think of “Dupe” I think of the word duplicate. The definition of duplicate is….exactly like something else…copied. So a dupe means exact copy. The bag you showed on the screen for $49 that resembled Valentino would, to me, be considered an “ inspired by”. It’s your prerogative to spend your money how you choose. Thanks for sharing. 😊💕
People most certainly can spend their money any way they choose, however passing their fakes off as the real things shows how embarrassed they are by their own actions.
@@livingluxwithmeredith Well maybe they are just embarrassed that they don't have the money so they want others to think they're successful. Same as wearing cubic zirconia stud earrings. They don't have to tell anyone they are not real diamonds. When I said people can choose how they spend their money, I was referring to you because you had negative comments. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and responding to mine.
Do you ever think about the excessiveness of your collecting, Meredith, and the damage collectors like yourself have on the environment? Buying fakes is a big no no, but it may do some good to give some thought to the excessive nature of collecting.
Yes, well said. What annoys me is when a group aka Uber wealthy “collectors” take on a topic that they only see through a narrow lens. Why don’t these luxury collectors ever discuss their contribution to the problem? They talk as though they are above it - sorry, no one is. We’re all guilty including them. Excess is a problem. But they never discuss that. 🤔
I have an incredibly large vintage collection, I would say the fact I have saved these vintage bags from ending up damaged beyond use and in land fill actually helps the environment. Also consumerism and consumption is not illegal, fakes are.
A narrow lens? I provided research materials and sources from several different areas. And I most certainly am not 'uber wealthy' I actually discussed the argument as someone who came from nothing and couldn't afford the bags she desperately wanted. Excess is not illegal, fakes are.
@@livingluxwithmeredith Depending on your country it’s not illegal to own a replica bag. Your sources were other RU-vidrs. I don’t know that that qualifies but there are many issues of excess that are not illegal but certainly immoral.
@@vrmomoffour9446 actually you’re wrong, it’s illegal in every country as it’s theft if intellectual property. My reference material is fairly extensive.
I would never purchase a fake and do not support anyone purchasing them. Completely agree with you, Meredith. The book “Counterfeit” by Kirstin Chen is a fun read on the subject.
Totally agree with you! I will never buy fake because of all the reasons you mentioned. Watched all you videos but I never subscribed. But now I pushed the button!
I agree with you on this subject, I would just add something about the price of these fakes. The so-called good quality Birkin/Kelly fakes still costs thousands of dollars. I’d rather buy a real bag than spend $$$$ on a fake.
This is a year old video but wanted to say I 100% agree with you! People should not buy at all or buy within their means to live more sustainably. Buying fakes isn’t it.
The real or fake conversation or debate will NEVER die. It used to be the fakes were very obvious to spot a mile down the road but now they look exactly like the real one: my collection pre dates social media so I’ve enjoyed the real thing over some years. But honestly speaking if someone wants to buy a replica I don’t care because the person knows what it is. I agree with you on the comment about “stupid”. It is not stupid to spend our own money on what makes us happy. But let me state for a fact that people judge real or fake largely based on who is carrying it, and I think that’s what the women in the article are standing on. There are young women in so called low socioeconomic neighborhoods carrying the REAL bags and they are judged in public as carrying fakes when they carry their bags to a mall. This whole fake vs real thing is ridiculous
I agree on everything you said in this video, Meredith, really! And by the way, I am so happy that you are a strong and clever 42year old woman who doesn't need to show off. I totally embrace your attitude, I am 42 old as well, I own just a very small bag collection, all of them original, and I don't feel the need of showing off in order to keep up with the Jones. And I don't know if it is worse to buy a fake knowing what it means in terms of exploiting labor and stealing intellectual properties, or making it appear as it was original. Totally agree with you and I appreciate your channel even more now.
There is a leather craftsman on RU-vid who takes apart luxury bags and shows how little leather is used, how poorly the bags are made and how much the bag cost...it's usually under $300. Then the best part is he makes the bag he just destroyed in beautiful leather with perfect craftsmanship and charges less than $500. 😆 What I love is he shows that people are just buying for a label that these luxury items aren't luxurious at all. I think luxury shoppers prove that too, every time their new bag falls apart after no use. 🤗
Yes,tanner LeatherStein I believe! Meredith, he has several videos on RU-vid and Instagram many other RU-vidrs have made videos discussing him not being accurate in his price as he gives, I find it very interesting, but this is what China is doing. They take apart the real, and they make a fake out of it they copy the design. What all of this boils down to is people who love fashion, and art buy authentic and people who just want the look, and they don’t care where it comes from.buy replicas ❤
Well said Meredith. I have very high moral standards and expectations, to the point that I annoy certain people 😆 so the hypocrisy behind all of this astounds me but I guess in the end you can’t dictate how someone feels about something wether it be right or wrong or contradicting you can only try and open their eyes to it and I feel that you articulated the subject very well 👏🏼
This is an excellent video! You made totally valid points and I agreewith alk of them . Purchasing knock iffs is ilkegal for a reason besides being morally wrong especially when trying to pass itoff as the real thing. This is a Neverending topic.
Such an interesting video. Would like you to do a video about how genuine handbag exotic skins - conditions that the animals are kept in, how they are slaughtered and how their skins are harvested and treated too, what happens to the meat and carcass’s? I think a lot of people would be interested.
But they won’t discuss this because lots of luxury lovers have bags & shoes made from exotic animals. They like talking issues like this to make themselves seem above things. I think it’s a topic to discuss but not when someone is acting as though they’re above it all. 😂
As the use of exotics and animals is not illegal, I don't think the two topics are comparable. Most of the large brands have details documents around how animals are treated, especially their exotics.
What if the "original" is the unethical? Where are our diamonds from? How about leathers - fur, exotic skins? I am in the believe that the only "ethical" leather comes as a side product from food industry (and yes, we can easily claim that any leather in unethical), so if an animal is killed just because of their skin, doesn´t it make the product unethical? Why are we against fur production even if the animals are well taken care of - because the animals are cute? Snake is also being killed for it´s skin. It doesn´t make a difference if the fur is recycled, it is still unethical, because of it´s origin. If I bought a zebra bag, that died in natural causes, I would be judged, because wild animals of limits. Btw, I don´t buy fakes, I own a snake bag, I own a zebra printed pony bag, I don´t know where my diamonds are from. Just raising up a few questions considering your comment, that we should be consistent on making judgements about what is ethical and what is not.
Animals are farmed in a sustainable way. I don't believe the farming of animals for their meat and skin is unethical unless the laws supports it being illegal (certain animals are endangered etc), or unless the farming does not meet the International regulations set out to ensure the animals are treated humanly. Therefore I believe the conversation around the use of animal skin is a personal belief one, not an ethical one.
I totally agreed with you. I would never buy a fake bag fit in in any circle. I rather buy a cute Coach or Marc Jacobs bag. Or any of the contemporary brands. ❤
There are amazing brands at much lower costs. I support everyone to have things they love at a price they can afford. I'm so happy you love the bags you have.
I would never buy fake/counterfeit in any luxury bags to encourage/support crimianls behaviors. If I can't afford it, I will save up to get it, I will more appreciate "the Bag" when I got my hand on. Love this vlog ❤
Your closing points are super powerful, but I want to remind people that Apple is a well-known repeat human rights violator. They have done this on almost every continent across the world. It’s been documented filmed written about and is a part of the common conversation around Apple. Yet many of us myself included still find ourselves buying from the brand. Yes by our actions I do think we as a society think the Instagram photo is worth it regardless of who it hurts.
@@livingluxwithmeredith oh gosh maybe I’ll try and put something together. Maybe I can do a voice over of sorts. I realized I’m more shy in front of a camera than I would like to be.
Just curious where are these “original “ bags ie. Chanel, LV, Gucci and so on made and how much are the factory workers paid? And the SAs who work in the stores?
It’s all public record reported in their financials and their board reports. That’s the advantage of buying through a company, not someone selling fakes.
I completely agree with you but just wondering there are other companies that have been shown to have child labor, would you be willing to ban them all or do you see it as them getting work even if they are a child? (this is just for conversation not attacking at all :)
I believe if any company can be shown to support child labour or human trafficking they should be prosecuted and should lose the support of their customers. But this has to be proven, it can't be conjecture.
Hello Meredith. I agree and support your views. Personally I would feel sick to my stomach and be ashamed carrying a fake; pretending to be someone I'm not, corroborating crime, lying to myself and others. I can't afford luxury handbags and I never will; this is just the reality of my job and tax bracket. But I am fine with it. I will keep looking at beautiful handbags from afar (living vicariously through you).
I don't buy fakes. I'd rather buy from cheaper brands like Aspinal, Longchamp or Polene if I'm not in the mood to shell out 2000 for a bag😂 (with all the price rises 2000 buys you soo little these days, it's insane)
Hundred percent agree with this video. One slight scrutiny I have is whether the argument the bags are made by children and/ or trafficked people still rings true especially with the presence of extremely well made Superfakes. Surely there must be some degree of skill and expertise to actually make these impeccable fakes. Understandably, these arguments are countered by the machinery, technology and the sheer necessity that the people making the bags are presumably forced to be an expert.
I would pose that unless you can say with certainty the fake you are buying is made 'ethically' is it worth the risk? I also pose that it's still a crime to steal someone else's design and pass a fake off as the real thing.
This is such an interesting topic. I’ve really enjoyed watching your video as well as Dayle’s. Just thinking about when I was in Asia, the markets and some stores are full of fake designer items and even the items that aren’t fakes come to think about it are more than likely made by the same criminal organisations. It changes your perspective when you start viewing bigger picture. I read a book last year on Bali crime/drug gangs and so many restaurants and bars are also owned and run by gangs, again thinking about it now some of which may be involved in producing these fake designer items. The world is a difficult place and I very much agree with you when you said, if you’re going to be outraged by Balenciaga you should be outraged by this too. Unfortunately I think a lot of people who buy fakes haven’t educated themselves on how these items are made and in some cases sadly don’t care as Dayle’s research showed.
I put my thoughts on Dayle's videos too! I agree whole heartedly. I have never and would never buy a fake. Even when I was unable to afford any luxury items and thought I might never be able to afford one I still did not buy a fake. My friends did and they were everywhere but I wanted the real thing or nothing. I wanted to earn my own money, and work hard to be able to buy the bag. I got teased and judged and called a snob from friends for not buying fakes and that made me even more resolute. I also hate the argument that the companies can afford it so it doesn't matter if they lose out due to the fake industry. No one should EVER steal from anyone else regardless of size of company etc. That is like saying you can break into someone's house and steal their things because they can maybe afford to replace or insurance will cover it!!!! NO!!!! It is not yours!!! I have never judged others for buying fakes even though I would never ever buy one myself. That is not because I support their choice but because I think they are able to make their own decisions and I don't think it is for me to dictate what they do. If asked, I would give my opinion on it though . Totally agree that those who buy fakes should own it!
Thanks Deb. Working to buy the real thing isn’t snobbery in my opinion, it’s wanting the real thing, not just a carbon copy of it. We all have a right to see our dreams realised.
@@livingluxwithmeredith yep people don’t always like to see others realise their dreams. I agree its not snobbery to work hard to buy the real thing but not everyone agrees. Thank you to both you and Dayle for starting the conversation x
Excellent video. I have admired luxury handbags for years for their craftsmanship and because they are a practical work of art that can elevate everyday life for the wearer. I don't own any luxury bags yet as it's never been in my budget, I hope to purchase an LV within the next couple of years. I would NEVER purchase a fake solely for the reasons you talked about, that the people making them are nearly always tied to organized crime and terrorism. I couldn't live with that.
I agree with you completely. I don’t buy fakes or dupes. Keep your videos coming. I love your videos and I am with you on buying the real deal. And I don’t think either one of us are stupid.
When I was younger and could not afford a luxury bag- I dreamed of Chanel- I had friends who carried very bad fakes but I simply could not- It motivated me to get the real deal. When I served in the US Air Force I was stationed in South Korea it was a serious problem over there - people could anything they wanted made. It was crazy! Still I waited- when I paid my house off I rewarded myself with a Louis Vuitton and a Chanel bag.. both REAL! It felt great- and I now have many bags and love the real luxury experience- I am so happy I didn’t compromise my beliefs and waited for the real deal. Thanks for this!! This is a moral and serious economic issue. ❤❤
Child labor, traffickers, etc also are involved in luxury goods! Don’t think they aren’t. Do those of you in luxury & have this unbelievable wealth consider where your animal bags come from?? No. This is a class “issue” - upper class issue.
As per Meredith’s comments, if you’re buying leather bags of any description and you buy them from a listed legitimate company, they are regulated, their suppliers are regulated and the government (in Australia anyway) inspects every single piece to ensure it complies with the highest standards of flora and fauna export requirements.
Please provide your evidence showing that luxury companies engage in child labour and human trafficking. If you can produce the evidence and reference materials I am happy to retract my entire video. You seem to have a real issue around animals and class. Perhaps a luxury channel is not what you should be watching.
I would never support fakes. When I can’t afford something, then I just won’t buy it. Fakes getting unrecognized in the preloved cicle scare me a lot. I fear it might happen way more often, than we would think 😕
These replica People send me videos of factories they don’t have any children in the factories. Also, the Hermès people are hand, making the bags EX Hermes artisans have sent me videos. I haven’t bought any but yeah China has whole cities dedicated to luxury brands. They have all the tools and materials to make the bags they often times are making items for the luxury houses themselves. For instance, YSL has their shoes made in China by the same replica factories were talking about. They don’t consider the shoes replica, though they ship them back to Italy, where they have the other part of the shoe glued onto it and then they say it’s made in Italy ! There are all kinds of videos on RU-vid about this undercover people going into factories I have never seen any children tho ?
The statistics I have provided are facts and while certain makers of these fakes may not use children, the point is, do you know which ones don't? Is it worth the risk?
Good points, I definitely agree. I have recently noticed that there is quite a few young ladies here on youtube who are trying to grow their audience by doing frequent unboxing videos of luxury items, multiple items in each unboxing. They even mentioned the name of the website they bought from but at first I thought it's one of the Asian resellers. Only after I clicked on one of the links they provided, I realised it's just a Chinese wholesaler selling fakes. I was very disappointed tbh... buying fakes to use them is one thing, but buying tonnes of them just to unbox and get a couple of views and encourage people to buy them too is so irresponsible... luckily youtube is going after those creators and taking down the unboxing videos. From what I heard instagram is doing that as well.
I totally agree 1000%, also as a side note there was talk on Dacob that you might be the Birkin Slayer🤣 P.S I don’t have to worry about getting bags bought from you authenticated 😊
I assure you I am not the Birkin Slayer lol. I encourage you to seek authentication of you ever question a bag, but I also assure you I don't own any fakes!
Autumn’s comment about consistency in outrage regarding Balenciaga was in reference to the other companies who have also had questionable ads. It wasn’t in reference to wearing fake bags. I can understand how you are making a connection regarding outrage, but that comment wasn’t related to this subject.
No it wasn’t, but she was clear about how people need to be consistent in their outrage of unethical or immoral practices. She didn’t seem to think I overstepped or misinterpreted.
No it wasn’t, but she was clear about how people need to be consistent in their outrage of unethical or immoral practices. She didn’t seem to think I overstepped or misinterpreted.
@@livingluxwithmeredith Like I said, I understand how you made the connection. I do agree that there are shady practices surrounding fakes, and I don’t buy fakes, but unethical practices abound in many workplaces. Corporate culture expects workers to violate labor laws such as having workers do work off the clock, not take a break during the day, or be available during their time off. Many people will just go along with it and value their job over forcing employers to obey laws. Unless there’s a union involved, no one fights back because people are replaceable. It happens across many industries and is rampant in retail. When I worked at a luxury cosmetic counter, we were expected to work well past regular hours. Same with teaching. Those practices are unethical as well.
In my early 20s I wanted to buy an LV wallet but I couldn’t go and buy the real one because of its price so I bought a dupe from Amazon. At that time I wasn’t feeling the same way of having the real one and my partner was frustrated for me buying a dupe so I was gifted a real one. After that I never consider or bought dupe or fake items just to show off. If I want to show off, I want to show off with the REAL ones and not the fake luxuries. Also, Im with you with the Balenciaga issue. If they feel rage about Balenciaga, they should be the same with the dupes and fakes. I will continue to wear my Balenciaga items no matter what other people say.
I totally agree with you on this subject I love luxury handbags I am in my fifties and I just cannot afford a luxury handbag without putting it on a credit card and honestly I don’t want to do that I have to really think about what to s important to me and making sure that I can take care of my mom and my dogs are what I worry about tho most and yes I could go buy the cakes but I won’t so I stick to Marc Jacobs, Coach & Dooney & Bourke because that is what is in my budget but that does not stop me from dreaming about getting a Fendi Sunshine tote or a Louis Vuitton On The Go tote maybe I will get a card holder or a wallet someday but for me it just about the history and my love for the brands.
Thank you or sharing this with me. I think it's wonderful that you have beautiful items you love, and that you have your priorities. Of course the care of your mother and dogs are far more important than any luxury item ever would be. It seems that you have found a way to have the best of all worlds and be happy, which is all any of us could ever hope for.
