Amanda's said she returned home found the front door wide open, no one home, blood in the bathroom, calmly showers, steps out of the shower finds more blood and a strangers shit in the toilet. she does not try to contact anyone for over an hour.Her story is so improbable it cannot be true.
she repeats that Filomena was hysterical as if that was something very unusual.. like wtf Amanda YES of course she is hysterical, someone got brutally murdered in her+your appartement - why are you not, Amanda? Why are you not?
At the time, the situation was that there was a giant doodoo in the toilet and that Mercher's door was locked with no answer. Still pretty clear that she should call 911, not her roommate, but this behavior is the entire "case". She is passive, naive and too agreeable, yes. That explains this behavior, too. Convicting people for murder, even as a private opinion, should a LOT mor than this.
Amanda didn't actually see into Meredith's bedroom after the door was kicked open. Filomena saw all of the blood and someone's foot protruding from under the blanket. So of course Filomena freaked out while Amanda was left to wonder and imagine for herself what was actually in Meredith's bedroom.
Knox WROTE it in TWO statements that Patrick Lumumba killed Meredith and she signed these two statements. In one of them she wrote: " I confusedly remember Patrick killing Meredith ' She didn't casually mentioned it, she WROTE it in ENGLISH and signed it too. She even asks the cops in her statement if they have found any evidence against Patrick ? I mean, how callous she can be ! Patrick was totally unconnected to this crime but she accused him because she fired her.
According to an interview with The Observer (via The Guardian) following that acquittal, Lumumba believes Knox was found not guilty because of status and appearances. “Amanda is free because she is American, but Americans are human like everybody," Lumumba said. As of last year, the 43-year-old Lumumba was living in Krakow, Poland with his wife. He has alleged that Knox's accusation and his involvement in this case lost him his business and made it impossible to find another job in Perugia. “What Amanda did I don’t know, but I think she knows why Meredith died," Lumumba told The Guardian.
@@bobbyfuller3118 foxy Knox might be innocent or not? One thing I don't like about her is hows she's cashing in on this and making it all about her. No shame and laughing in her interviews.
He did not fire her. The police brought him up and she was looking for a way out so she pinned it on him. But under immense psychological pressure, she just wanted this nightmare to end. Rudy committed this all by himself, he was a known burglar, notorious liar, and fled by train afterwards, what more proof do you need?
One of the many things that bugs me about her is that in all of her interviews, you will not find her saying one kind word about Meredith. By all accounts, Meredith was a wonderful, beautiful person. But all Amanda ever says about her is 'She was my friend', period. She never talks about how tragic it is that such a beautiful person was lost to the world - never. Guilty or not, there is something terrible about this person.
When someone speak of the murder of someone close to them, smiling and giggling is NOT normal. Amanda is talking about a murder not a romantic story. She enjoys the interview because attention is on her. She’s creepy. Italy’s justice system failed.
18:30 to 18:45 she looks absolutely terrifying, her facial expression, everything. Who would laugh while recalling about blood on a bed when there’s police in your apartment and they’re talking about your roommate being murdered. Also “it was a body wrapped on a blanket” ?! Wtf. Freak
The fact that she immediately accused her boss who was a black man to have done it, who was quickly proven innocent, makes me feel like she did it , or else why would she accuse a random guy who has never been to her apartment before.
The simple response is that she didn't "immediately" accuse her boss. That was at the end of roughly 50 hours of interrogation, in the middle of the night, where the police gave her a false statement to sign, under physical coercion and threats that she wouldn't see her family again if she didn't sign.
@@kqatsi Simply not true. Her first interview lasted 2 hours and she volunteered her old boss as murderer who was therefore arrested. Lumumba who was suspected of the crime and held for 3 weeks stated that despite bring a black African suspected of murder, he was never mistreated or abused. The myth of police abuse against Knox is a lie to explain away why she smeared Patrick Lumumba.
Katsi is right. She absolutely didn't "immediately" accuse him. She shouldn't have accused him, obviously, and you should, just as obviously, keep in mind that she did this while being badgered by police for hours on end and being treated like a murderous liar. If she is innocent, which I find highly likely, this doesn't seem as heinous as you make it out to be. She was desperate, simple as... I think, innocent or not, it is absolutely terrifying that she was ever even charged with this ridiculously miniscule amount of "evidence". The "evidence" was, essentially, she acted weird, leaving without calling 911 and calling all her roommates and her mom first. She was hesitant and didn't want to rush things. It was pretty stupid, which I'm sure she has long realized. We should learn from this, that you should rather call the police one too many than one too few times.
Totally guilty!!!!!!!! When a killer doesn't talk or want to help with finding the actually killer is guilty. You and your boyfriend are creepy as hell
Wow, just wow. There are countless times she called her "friend" and "housemate". That doesn't prove anything. Stop collecting pathetic "evidence" to back up your preconceived opinion.
It’s like she’s telling a fun memory with all the stupid laughter. By laughing she wants to make it nonchalant so the interviewer won’t think she did it.
How can she sleep at night after being accused of a horrific crime? If she were innocent, the accusation alone would be enough to stop her from smiling and laughing right? She truly is an ice maiden in my opinion.
They, ARE WOMEN, WE BLEED, I had a terrible period, and yes I bled over the bathroom!!! Especially, when you're young, it happens, so don't think, she's being weird, because periods are very gross sometime, and so that is why she did not react!!!!!!!!!!!
Not being snarky but my son ( almost 12)thinks spit is more gross than poop. God only knows why lol. Everyone's different. Not saying she's guilty or innocent.
So, the front door is opened, there is no one else in the house, she goes to both toilets avoiding the rooms, there is blood in one and feces in the other but she shrugged it off as menstrual issues and has a shower?? Why did she open Filomena's room first, her being the only one she had contacted, finds the broken window, moves to Laura's room knowing she is in a business trip in Rome and leaves Meredith's room for last and knocks gently?? She only started putting things together in her mind when she heard blood and foot but thought about a dismembered foot in the room?? She didn't know if she should be worried or not? She only realized the magnitude of it when they asked her for the missing knife??
Lorena parli Italiano ? I mean, she said a lot of gigantic bullshit and bollocks - no one beleive her, just some stupid idiot like her - there was blood everywere the small bathroom, everywere and " she took a shower " - hahaha give me a fuc-king break -
All what she told about what she did that morning: that she went back home at about 10.30-11 am to take a shower is INVENTED, she LIED, she wasn't at the cottage at that time and she took no shower: - she told that when she just came out of the house (after having taken the shower and dried her hair), she called her roommate Filomena....although in this interview she "changed version" to make her story fit with what emerged from the investigation, saying that she called her from Raffaele's apartment: Filomena told that Amanda, during that call, told her that "she went back home and that she had found strange things at the house, blood in the bathroom...and that she took a shower" and she told her also that *"she was going to GO BACK to Raffaele's to bring him over* so that he could see "the strange things" too, but the cell-tower records showed that when she did that call (at 12.08 pm) she was NOT at home, in Via delle Pergola, nor in her way to go from there to Raffaele's apartment, but INSIDE Raffaele's apartment....why did she LIE to Filomena about where she really was? - then Filomena (who got worried) tried to call her back 4 minutes later, at 12.12 pm and again at 12.20 pm but Amanda didn't answer the phone: and the cell-towers records showed that she was (still) inside Raffaele's apartment. - Filomena called her again at 12.34 pm and this time Amanda answered the phone and informed Filomena about the presumed (fake) break-in: the cell towers records showed that at that time she was (really) at the cottage in Via della Pergola THEN: apart from the fact that she lied to Filomena telling her that she was in Via della Pergola, at their home (at 12.08 pm) when she was instead at Raffaele's, if she was at Raffaele's at 12.20 pm and calculating that to go from Raffaele's flat to Amanda's home there's about a 10 min. walk, it means that she and Raffaele arrived to the cottage at abt. 12.30 pm. The 2 officers of the Postal police arrived there (unexpected) at 12.35 pm, then they could not have done all what they told having done (when they would have been at the cottage alone before the police showed up) *in ONLY 5 MINUTES or less:* - Amanda and Raffaele told they got into the house, opened Filomena's bedroom door discovering the broken window, that they checked all the apartment, Amanda knocked on Meredith's door and started to panic because she didn't answer, she panicked so much that she went out on the balcony from where she tried to see inside Meredith's room through the window climbing on the railing, Raffaele stopped her because it was "too dangerous", she ran outside and down to her neighbors and she banged on their door (although she knew they all 4 left Perugia the day before and were in another region of Italy at their families homes and were not supposed to be back until sunday), then she went back inside and decided with Raffaele to try to break down Meredith's door two times... failing. At that point they went outside in the garden, sit down near the fence from where they saw a policeman walking towards them. IT'S CLEAR AS DAY that they could not have done all this in just 5 minutes.....both stories (the "shower story" and the "panic story") are COMPLETE FABRICATIONS: they or she alone went back to the cottage during the night or during the early hours of the morning to clean and to rearrange the "scene" and afterwards they stayed at Raffaele's place from where Amanda called Filomena the first time (at 12.08 pm). Between 12.20 pm and 12.34 pm they left Raffaele's apartment and were on their way to the cottage. Of course Amanda didn't answer Filomena's calls on purpose (she had to pretend being at the cottage "panicking"...at that time) and she finally answered only at 12.34 pm, when they were REALLY there.
Correct, this is most likely as you said. Because there is no hard proof, not much can be done about it, but as you said, the sheer amount of scenarios that don't make sense points to her involvement somehow. I do not believe she is killer (her DNA would be all over the place if she had done it), but she definitely was involved somhow. Most likely, she did visit the place after the crime , cleaned up, staged the break in etc..and only later were police involved. Someone had to have been there before police arrived, and rudys footprints show him running for the exit straight from merediths room ( not cleaning up etc ). These were bloody footprints, so very difficult to take off shoes clean up in socks then go back to metediths room, exactly same place, put back on shoes and show trajectory as running out the door. ..Yet we know for a fact there was clean up, etc ...Nope, someone else had some hand in this. Could have been Rudy's friends, but unlikely- no other suspects are present. Investigations would obviously have looked at his known friends or acquaintances- none were suspected. Who does that leave? Knox and her boyfriend. Can be no other. There is more to this story than she is saying..not over yet.
Guilty or not, once you start pointing the finger elsewhere no one's ever going to believe you again. It doesn't help of course that she has such a dislikable persona.
Nonsense. Amanda was pressured by police into making those statements. She was 20 years old, barely spoke any Italian, had no reason to blame Lumumba (she knew he was at work that evening), had no lawyer, no family close to her, had about 17 different investigators shouting at her for hours... I'd like to see you in those conditions. I could go on, but your statements are blatantly absurd.
@@adee7546 Where you get that BS info from, that Seattle PR Company ? An interpreter, Anna Domino, was present throughout the interview and Knox testified in court that she was given food and drink. Her lawyer Luciano Ghirga rejected the claims that she was ever hit or ever shouted at by any of the interrogators, the Interview lasted no more then two hours. Knox lied. First she denied she was there at the crime scene in question, she said she spent the entire time with her boyfriend at his house, both slept soundly until 10:30 am the following morning. Later, she changed her story and admitted she was there at the crime scene but it was her boss Patrick Lumumba who did the killing. Her statements she made in the presence of an interpreter and her Lawyer were all recorded and are held in the police files along with transcript of court proceedings. These details were reviewed by a Harvard professor who agreed with the police findings and the two guilty verdicts. According to professor “there are thousands of Americans in jail today on the basis of far less evidence than there is against Amanda Knox." Stop making up and posting wild allegations, Check out your facts before you post more nonsense
@@jamessmythe1891 Okay, let’s annihilate all your arguments, one by one, since it’s actually quite easy. Let’s start with the interrogation: Amanda Knox was interrogated repeatedly in the days after the murder and always maintained the same story. Until the very last day, when she collapsed. The "confessions" were audio and video recorded. (Mignini bragged about this endlessly). The recordings could have proven Amanda’s point about the pressures suffered, the lies, the beatings, etc. Guess what? BOTH AUDIO AND VIDEO recordings disappeared. Nothing suspicious at all about that. Also, THREE HARD DRIVES that could have proven A and R's case were also DESTROYED BY POLICE. THREE. HARD. DRIVES. OOPS. Nothing to see here, folks. Nothing to see. As far as Amanda's "confession," the European Court condemned Italy for violating A's rights in not providing her with a lawyer, (which is required BY LAW in Italy). They also explicitly defined the interpreter’s work as “incompetent.” The interpreter’s name, by the way, is Anna Donnino, and she was ONE of the various interpreters used. Once she finished, early the next morning, she testified that she waited until 8 AM, when another interpreter (Anna Colantone, though I read her name spelled in different ways) would take over. So that takes care of that. (1/...)
@@jamessmythe1891 Part Two: Furthermore, Amanda was interviewed: 1. A few days after the murder. A had not slept decently in days, as is perfectly understandable 2. Her friend M had died. Amanda was distraught. 3. She and R had stopped by the station. She wasn't supposed to be interviewed, but was. She was exhausted from the day and from recent events (I'm sure you're fresh as a rose around midnight....) 4. The interview was carried out in a language she barely spoke. 5. The interpreter, by her own admission, arrived at 12:30 AM. By her own admission, she does not know what happened during the previous interrogation, nor does she know how anyone behaved. Also, the interpreter herself made statements that should have disqualified her (she said her role was to "get the witness to confess." Nothing suspicious about this at all. 6. Amanda knew that PL had a solid alibi. He was at work in his restaurant. She knew this because he had told her not to come to work. 7. There were around 17 detectives interrogating her, back and forth, back and forth...again, standard procedure. 8. The cops misinterpreted the message "See you later" to mean "I, Amanda, and you Patrick will meet later tonight." This is diabolically insane. Almost comical. That's why they focused on Patrick, thinking he had participated in the murder. When they were finally proven wrong, they switched PL with Guede.. the real culprit... without admitting their guilt... 9. After Amanda’s statements, the police went to arrest Lumumba. Nobody bothered to check if he had an alibi. Nobody bothered to corroborate Amanda’s statements, to see if they had been made under duress. They simply went to Lumumba’s house and arrested him... only to be later embarrassed by the fact that he had an alibi. (2/...)
@@jamessmythe1891 Part III Here is Colantone’s own testimony about Amanda’s condition: At a certain moment, I don’t know if I had gone away for a moment to speak with someone from the Flying Squad or something, in passing that room, returning to this room where I remember [Amanda] was alone, it was only her, and I was practically…I understood that this girl was truly fatigued, exhausted, she was tired because I practically found her, she was draped on a seat with her head reclined toward the wall, white in the face, with her eyes closed, white, I was very struck by her pallor and I understood that this girl was in bad shape. This is only the tip of the iceberg. I might send you an excellent analysis of the conditions in which Amanda “confessed.” Anyway, nothing ridiculous about this at all. Nothing disgusting, absurd and absolutely embarrassing about this whole thing. Let me know if there is anything else you want me to clarify. (Incidentally, I’m glad you don’t mention that Harvard professor’s name. And I know why. That “professor” is Alan Dershowitz, and he’s a buffoon. Anyone with half a brain would know this, so we can dismiss anything he says without wasting any more time. Note: that professor does NOT speak Italian and at the time had not read anything on the case, either original or professionally translated). A.
I can't figure out if she's guilty or not and I couldn't care less about who she slept with and all that nonsense. But she seems off. Sometimes when she talks and everytime she cries, something's off. It seems staged.
+muni It isn't staged, I think she looks uncomfortable giving interviews but this is the hand she was dealt, she's decided to help other exonerees and i think she looks more comfortable in,their company, they certainly have something in common
Amanda Knox wasn't exonerated - she was acquitted. There's a significant difference. Unfortunately, you lack the intellectual capacity to understand the difference.
I don’t know if she did it or not. But, who tells all these meticulous details?? That’s something I noticed. The laughing and smiling. This was a brutal murder of her roommate. It’s like she’s talking about a day in the park. Good Lord!!
Apart from that, hey language is full of distancing from Meredith. And at no point EVER HAVE I HEARD A RELIABLE DENIAL OF INVOLVEMENT She was asked if she would be prepared to do a lie detector test. On tv with the USA watching she said very nervously yes she would. As far as I am aware it has never happened. She said yes and her demeanor screamed NO!!!!!!!!
@@timffoster6301 what i think about alot the crime scene was very bloody a brutal murder and showed signs meredith fought bk..amanda the nxt day was with police surely she would have had some scrab or bruise..i acctually dont know if Amanda acctually killed her but from what iv watched and read about this case something isn right with that girl her body language is weird how she answers questions is odd her duping delight every 5 minutes maybe thats just who she is..i find her awkward to watch..i just dont like her..
@@gerardhale199 AK did have a mark on her neck. She said it was a love bite but it was vertical, not rounded like a love bite. She also said in her statement that she showered with RS and he cleaned her ear. Later she said because it had been recently pierced. I can’t post images here but google it, Mark on neck,
I too am not sure what happened, but I don't think her story in this interview seems incoherent. If you live in a small, quiet town of northern Italy, murder would perhaps not be the first explanation you jump to, when finding your house in the state she describes here. Having shared a house with fellow students in a small town myself, I indeed - on quite a few occasions - arrived to find our house in various 'stages of weirdness' when coming home in the morning hours after staying the night elsewhere. Her meticulous details are also not surprising to me. She has been through these event numerous times, through several interrogations, a couple of court trials - one lasting almost a year - as well as going through these events countless times in her mind while in jail, and later, while writing a book about it. For her to be somewhat detached from the tragic events and the emotional drama when recounting these details doesn't automatically indicate her being guilty of the crime. Having said that, there are of course several events that has cast suspicion of her somehow being involved in this crime, but there are also facts about this case that speaks strongly for her innocence. One perspective that is not discussed very often is the fact that Rudy Guede who opted for a fast-track trial never once in those court hearings implemented Knox or Sollecito as co-complicit. Why didn't he do that? He had at the time of the trial everything to gain from nailing two more persons to this crime - two persons the police was already believing were guilty. Instead he told a strange story about a - to him - unknown man who just happened to stumble into the house, rape and murder Meredith, while Guede was in the bathroom pooping. Even if Guede was alone with Meredith at the time of her murder, there is still a lot about this crime that is not yet proved or explained, but unlike most of the commentators here, I don't think it is at all that obvious that Knox and Sollecito were his partners in crime. The police were convinced Knox was involved from day one and charged her and Sollecito as suspects even before Guede's fingerprint was found at the murder scene. If Knox and Sollecito was involved, nobody - to my mind, anyway - has yet presented a coherent and convincing theory of 'how' and 'why' they participated in the murder. If indeed the police got tied up in their own suspicions about Knox and Sollecito, and even went to such lengths as to make evidence fit with these theories, it wouldn't be the first time in history that police officers have done so. It also wouldn't be the first time innocent people have suffered from both suspicious behavior and suspicious circumstances. Whatever Knox and Sollecito did or didn't do, this case was high profile from day one and their images were plastered on front pages all over the world. It would definitely have been a giant loss of face for the Italian police if they'd had to back track their overconfidence in the guilt of the two and announce their innocence after this case had snowballed into an avalanche in the media. Truth is, from the very beginning everybody loved the idea of this being a kinky sex-murder involving Foxy Knoxy and Harry Potter.
The eye witnesses showed concern and broke down Meredith's door, Filomena and her friends looked in the room and were horrified. The only one that did look who was away while they were breaking the door was Amanda. I wonder why? I think she knew what they would find.
She seems so unattatched to reality, when she's talking. No emmotions at all. She even laughs inapprotiately when talking about very serious issues. I think, she's involved somehow.
Khaleesi L I just wanted to say the same. That’s what trauma does to you. In psychology it is called derealization/depersonalization and it happens to people with trauma, suffering, anxiety and so on. I have it and I didn’t kill anyone. Those who haven’t experienced anything difficult are the most judgmental people what can you do.
@@nayamun4378 yes that is correct but does it make you nod yes when you say no? No it does not. Her first statement given to police is the correct one. She got away with it.
jimjam 3267 I don’t know maybe it does when your nervous system is so weakened and you are in front of cameras and people who want to prove you wrong. When you feel so many people are against you. I know that once a stranger asked me for directions, out of nervousness, I told him to turn right instead of left and I didn’t want to lie. I was just nervous. I will admit that it’s weird that she didn’t call medical emergency. If I saw what she described I would immediately assume that my roommate probably had a medical emergency and that time is important in such a situation. I would probably think my roommate fainted from a heavy period and I wouldn’t waste time and call the paramedics. But maybe she was just a very ignorant person. Or in that fear she picked the flight response. Or maybe she’s real life version of the Basic Instinct movie. Only God knows.
Aside from when she was harassed for hours by police until the wee hours of the night, Amanda always told ONE story. The truth. Also, NO DNA belonging to Amanda or Raffaele was found in Meredith's room. Plenty of DNA belonging to Rudy was found there. Think about it....
She says: "When i first got there, everything looked completely normal". ie, it was normal for the electric gate to be open, it was normal for there to be bloody footprints on the floor. Do you think it's possible she could be lying?
It looked normal because: 1. she was there either during the crime or after it ( before the police arrived) and she is not telling the full story Or, 2. You could argue that this wasn't the case above and she really did think it was normal, and that is sheer stupidity, but stupidity is not a crime.
There were MANY reasons why the investigators thought the room was staged. 1.) there are no signs of any foot-steps outside the building even though it was a wet day. The stone found inside the room does not end in the linear trajectory where it should have ended, it was found at the OPPOSITE side underneath a chair. The stone was too large to have entered the smaller glass panels and too heavy to be thrown from below. The front door was opened so why risk life and limb getting through a window?
How do you explain the three different kinds of wounds ? The THREE different kinds of knives that were used ? Or you think that Guedes was switching knives as he was attacking Meredith ?
Silly question. By their own admission, investigators quickly dismissed the possibility of a break-in (saying that the window was too high for someone to climb) and focused on Amanda as being involved. It never occurred to them that someone else might have faked a break-in. It was their idea that Patrick Lumumba was involved in the murder, simply on the basis of that text message. After hours and hours of interrogation, they got their “confession.” See literature about “false confessions” and you’ll understand. False confessions. Experts say that the people most vulnerable to false confessions are: - Young people (younger than 23-24) - Unsophisticated, naïve people - Foreigners who don’t speak the language well - People who place their unconditional trust in the authorities (“If the police say so, it must be true.”) - People who are unassisted by counsel (often because they don’t think they need one) Amanda fits all these criteria. Amanda was 20 years old, a naive, dumb girl (her own flatmates called her "la scema" - the dumb one), in a foreign country, where her friend had been brutally murdered, she finds herself in a police station at 2 o’clock in the morning, with no interpreter (at first, an interpreter arrived around 11:30 PM), without a relative or a lawyer. The European Court later stated that these were violations of Amanda's human rights. In fact, Amanda's statement was NOT allowed in court. Here is the European Court’s decision: canestrinilex.com/risorse/interrogata-senza-avvocato-e-con-interprete-adeguato-italia-condannata-nel-caso-knox-c-edu-2412019/
Almost EVERY SINGLE THING you have stated is false. Amanda's DNA was NEVER found in Filomena's room. The DNA that was found on the knife did belong to Amanda, but the DNA that was said to belong to Meredith, in fact, DID NOT. Amanda did finger Lumumba, but only after hours and hours of interrogation, where the police kept shouting in her face, showing the text message where she said (in Italian): “See you later,” which investigators thought meant the two were going to meet later that night. By their own admission, investigators quickly dismissed the possibility of a break-in (saying that the window was too high for someone to climb) and focused on Amanda as being involved. It never occurred to them that someone else might have faked a break-in. It was their idea that Patrick Lumumba was involved in the murder, simply on the basis of that text message. After hours and hours of interrogation, they got their “confession.” See literature about “false confessions” and you’ll understand. False confessions. Experts say that the people most vulnerable to false confessions are: - Young people (younger than 23-24) - Unsophisticated, naïve people - Foreigners who don’t speak the language well - People who place their unconditional trust in the authorities (“If the police say so, it must be true.”) - People who are unassisted by counsel (often because they don’t think they need one) Amanda fits all these criteria. Amanda was 20 years old, a naive, dumb girl (her own flatmates called her "la scema" - the dumb one), in a foreign country, where her friend had been brutally murdered, she finds herself in a police station at 2 o’clock in the morning, with no interpreter (at first, an interpreter arrived around 11:30 PM), without a relative or a lawyer. The European Court later stated that these were violations of Amanda's human rights. In fact, Amanda's statement was NOT allowed in court. Here is the European Court’s decision: canestrinilex.com/risorse/interrogata-senza-avvocato-e-con-interprete-adeguato-italia-condannata-nel-caso-knox-c-edu-2412019/ As to the plausibility of climbing the outside wall into Filomena’s second-floor window, a test was conducted long after the trial: A young climber quickly dispelled the myth that “only Spiderman could have climbed that wall” (as the appeals court stated) by climbing that very same wall from the ground in about 2 seconds. The climber also stated that any young, fit man could do what he did, without having any particular climbing experience). You can see the video here: www.amandaknoxcase.net/rudy-guedes-break-in/ As to calling the Postal Police: The police were called because a cell phone was found and was being returned to Meredith. As to the phone calls, Raffaele first he called his sister, who was a carabiniere, then she told him to call 112, which he did. Twice (the line was disconnected during the first call). It was proven in court that Raffaele had called the police at EXACTLY the time he said. The confusion stemmed from a video of Raffaele with the Postal Police officer, showing a clock in a parking lot. This clock was later proven to be 10 minutes late, thus supporting Raffaele's testimony. If Raffaele and Amanda were involved and wanted to avoid detection, why show up to the house the next morning? Why call the police? Why did Amanda accuse Lumumba, a man she KNEW had an alibi, because he was at his café that night (she was supposed to work that night, but business was slow and Lumumba told her not to come). On the other hand, as per their own testimonies, investigators focused on Amanda, her “odd” behavior, her seeming absence of sadness or tears, and centered on her sexual life (they went so far as to lie that she was HIV positive in order to get her to write down all the men she had sex with). As if that had anything to do with the murder. Curiously, few sexual questions were asked of Rudy Guede and Raffaele Sollecito, and investigators refused to delve into their alleged sexual depravities. To prove the sexism and misogyny of the courts, when Amanda’s use of condoms and a vibrator was mentioned in court, the judges and jury gasped, as reported by author John Follain. For whatever depraved reason, prosecutor Mignini was obsessed with the idea of an orgy gone wrong (the theory of the motive for the murder changed over time, as if prosecutors threw all kinds of mud at the wall, hoping something would stick). He persisted on this theory even though NO DNA was found in Meredith’s room belonging to either Amanda or Raffaele. Meanwhile, plenty of blood and semen belonging to Rudy Guede was found in the same room, where the murder occurred. Further, Mignini (and the first court) insisted that Amanda/Raffaele must have known Guede even though no evidence was found supporting this, other than two perfunctory encounters. No one (except for one lunatic) ever stated that they saw the three together and their respective cell phones did NOT contain each other’s phone numbers, nor had they ever texted/called each other. Mignini is the same prosecutor who at the time was under investigation for abuse of office (he was later convicted and then acquitted), and should never have prosecuted the case. He was also the man behind the “Monster of Florence” fiasco, where his main suspect, Pietro Pacciani, was acquitted by a court just prior his death. In that case, as well, Mignini was obsessed with the idea of orgies, satanic rituals, purchases of sex organs, etc. Furthermore, once investigators focused on Amanda (which happened almost instantly), everything she did was interpreted against her: if she cried, she was being theatrical, trying to attract attention, if she was calm it meant she was a cold psychopath, if she tried to relax she was indifferent and narcissistic, if she hugged and kissed her boyfriend she was an unfeeling whore, etc. In court, Mignini asked the dumbest questions. Questions like: “Why did you cry when we took you to the cottage to see the knives?” Are you kidding me? Amanda should have said: “Is that a serious question? My friend was stabbed repeatedly, her throat slit, she was probably beaten and raped. You’re suspecting me of the crime. You take me to the house to look at a drawer full of knives and you ask me why I broke down and cried? Get the fuck out of my face! Get out! And find a prosecutor who is not a complete imbecile to ask me some questions. Lastly, four of Sollecito’s computers were tested, three out of four were destroyed by the police. How is it humanly possible to destroy a computer while trying to copy files? It’s obvious that the police are either: a) grossly incompetent, or, much more likely, b) deliberately destroyed three hard drives because they would have proven Sollecito innocent.
@Troy Thompson You obviously know nothing about the case. Even Mignini said that Lumumba was involved. Also, you're not a very deep thinker, are you? Why would Amanda finger Lumumba, knowing that he had a solid, perfect alibi? (He was at work that night). The police misinterpreted Amanda's message "See you later" (in Italian) to mean that she and Patrick were going to meet later that night. Seriously, man. Try reading some documents about the case, instead of sounding like a fool. I mean, if you don't even know the basic facts, what's the point?
@Troy Thompson Think about it. Why would the prosecutor enlist the help of 12 investigators to interrogate Amanda until the wee hours of the morning? Why would they call a press conference three days after the murder to say: “The case is closed” before they had even verified the evidence, and even before the forensic results had come in? Why would they arrest Lumumba in the middle of the night, before they even checked if he had an alibi, or if there was any evidence that linked to the murder? Do you think that, perhaps, it had something to do with Mignini (the prosecutor): 1. Having looked like an idiot in the ‘Monster of Florence’ case, where he pursued Pietro Pacciani as the serial killer, only to see Pacciani be acquitted shortly before Pacciani’s death? 2. Mignini being under investigation for abuse of office for wiretapping colleagues, journalists and other people related to the ‘Monster’ case, including two prominent journalists?
@Troy Thompson As I said, you don't know the facts of the case. Under appeal, two INDEPENDENT DNA experts destroyed the prosecution's case, highlighting over 50 errors that they made. Their evidence was so strong that people in court LAUGHED at the idea that Amanda and Raffaele were responsible. Italy's Supreme Court, after 8 years of hell, told the lower courts (I'm paraphrasing): 'Leave Amanda and Raffaele alone. They did NOT do this.' ("Il fatto non sussiste').
Amanda said when she saw the crap she knew none of her flat mates would leave it like that. To find your front door wide open, no one home, A substantial amount of blood in the bathroom.Then to calmly shower and not contact anyone for over an hour is unbelievable.
Well, if she had cleaned up the blood instead, that would have made her very suspicious, don't you think? Her behavior was perfectly consistent with an innocent person. And she did not leave calmly. She got scared once she heard noises.
She was so horrified when heard about the foot print police found in Meredith's room, but not a bit horrified for the found dead body of her friend!! So, was your evidence left behind that made you afraid of?
I think she is lying. The wrong emotions seem to come out at the wrong times. And all that about her being "confused" is just her trying to convince us that she was so freaked out she couldn't have committed this crime.
I was wondering that. But it was said that she and Meredith didn’t get on because she Amanda was not clean so maybe she left it believing it was Meredith’s because the other girls were away so she could confront her about it.
That has always been a HUGE red flag for me. Anyone would have immediately flushed it, then bitched about it later. She knew she had struck gold when she saw that, which was not early the next day, as she claims. Guede's DNA was all over a room that had been obviously cleaned and wiped down, and I'm sure that would make a pretty good source of DNA. Why would Amanda's reading light be on the floor beside Meredith's body, with blood soaked towels and smeared surfaces of wiped down blood? I don't think we'll ever know what actually transpired, but I do believe Amanda maliciously attacked Meredith that night, and somehow was able to enlist the help of another party to clean and stage the scene afterwards. I believe Amanda acted alone in the actual murder, based on my research of the evidence and her psychopathology. Her timeline and alibi have not and cannot be verified. Period. It's evident that Rafaello being her alibi was sketchy, as he flipped within just a couple hours of questioning, stating that she wasn't with him all night, and in fact didn't know where she was during the time Meredith was murdered. Anyone who believes she is innocent is naive, in denial, or incapable of piecing simple factual evidence together.
" One thing I could never understand is that Amanda has always said she was given a rough time by the police. But I was named as the one who killed Meredith, the black third world African, AND THEY NEVER GAVE ME ANY PROBLEMS. I DO FIND THAT THAT VERY STRANGE and I also find it amazing that she has never actually said sorry to me " Patrick Lumumba former boss of A. Knox at Le Chic Bar.
Lumumba changed his story several times, at first saying he was abused and stripped naked, then changing his tune after the police "talked" to him. Yes, he was an innocent man, but he milked his "victimhood" in exchange for money and TV appearances. He lied several times about Amanda and "spiced up" his recollections to make himself more relevant and more pitied. I'm sorry about his time in jail, but he has milked it in unethical ways, and basically did the same to Amanda later.
@@adee7546 Where did you obtain this information? Please provide your source, as I've never witnessed or read about any of the abovementioned changes in Lumumba's testimony or statements, nor accusations that he was abused by LE. I did hear him make various statements, similar to that of numerous other witnesses who were questioned, saying that none of them were mistreated by police, and found it odd that Amanda was the only person to claim such mistreatment.
@@adee7546 By all accounts, it has only ever been Amanda who's "milked" AND manipulated the public and media for all she can, incessantly claiming to be a victim of everyone and everything, granting countless media appearances for over a decade now on her "campaign of innocence", where she rakes in upwards of $5000 - $10,000 per appearance; working with huge corporations to create content which explicitly paints her in the best light possible, such as the Netflix documentary aptly named "Amanda Knox", and her $4 million book deal, to name a few. To this day Knox has never directly apologized to Patrik, nor paid him the settlement awarded for slandering his name and upending his life, per her calunnia conviction of which she is a felon for life as a result of. As far as unethical behavior, Amanda has set the bar quite high in that category. It is apparent that she has no concern for attributes like respect, decency, honesty, taking accountability, etc. She is a textbook narcissist who has created a platform and monetarily successful brand solely off of the brutal slaying of Ms. Kercher. Her cruel and malicious nature, lending to her myriad of lies and harassment of the Kercher family, have been relentless, systematic, and plainly obvious over the years. She pathologically enjoys any and all attention, as well as the ability to continue publicly victimizing Meredith and her family.
@@adee7546 More lies and disinformation from payroll A Dee! Knox falsely accused Lumumba and he could have been jailed for life as a result. And now payroll A Dee slanders this innocent man who lost his business as a rest. A Dee is lower than a snake's belly...
she doesn't look at the interviewer in the eye. and for recounting something supposely so horrific, she doesn't seem "bothered", like she's telling a story of how to make a dish or somehting. maybe i'm wrong, but there doesn't seem to be have passion/emotion in her voice....and even half laughing at times when recalling her ordeal. seriously? your friend was just murdered......i'm just pointing out observations. only god knows if she's guilty or not.
You know that smiling is one of the sign of someone who lies and is guilty? She is recalling that night, and exactly when she said: " I didnt think someone had been murdered", inconsciously and without even realizing, she is actually smiling. She is still showing her content of having done it. Its chilling.
@Jacky J Jones Said the person who knows nothing about psychiatric diseases, criminology, investigative techniques, or anything else, for that matter. I'm glad you can decide a person's guilt based on a micro-expression. People like you are scary.
@Jacky J Jones Right... let's throw away 10,000+ pages of evidence, including the Supreme Court's acquittal, and simply have you stare at people and tell us who is innocent and who is guilty. If you truly are who you say, I will seriously get chills down my spine.
That's right. Burglars get in and out of a place as fast as they can with the stolen goods. This is why the police advice, is not to leave valuables that are easy to steal in full view, since they know burglars do not hang about long enough to be caught out in a burglary. Burglars never steal heavy things. Sollecito's call was suspicious to the emergency operator the minute he said that the room was thrashed but NO valuables were stolen. Sollecito became their 1st suspect.
yeah she seems like a sociopath and i cant believe after a bloody murder of her roommate she writes a freakin book! make that money of that poor girls death right ugh
There were TWO neighbours that heard the piercing scream. One of the witnesses Nara Capezzali said she heard around 10:30 a cry so harrowing that afterwards she had trouble getting back to sleep, a scream corroborated by Antonella Monacchia, who went to bed around 10:30 and after falling asleep was awaked by a piercing scream.
If I heard a scream like that I would call the police. It doesn’t change who is guilty but it is strange to me that 2 women heard the scream of a woman that was so unsettling they couldn’t sleep but didn’t call police.
How can she laugh as she's telling this tragic story? Also, she's telling the story in such a confusing way, probably to try to detract attention away from herself.
Yes. This is why i didnt understand what even happend after so many interviews and films. Then i watched rudy's interview. It was smth else. He was consistent all the time and really sad. Go watch.
This woman is a liar and she's got away with it. What kind of girl gets naked and into a shower when her apartment door is wide open with blood on the sink and THEN run off to her partners house because she finds a poop in the toilet!?? If I walked into my house and the door was already open I would either A) check on my roommate first or B) phone the cops straight away coz I was scared of potential burglars !!! Not only that...she has verbal dioreah... giving us FARRR to much uneccessary information, waffling, to try and throw us off course, it's almost like she's trying too hard to justify herself. I believe she's a pyscopath and I think she was purely jelous of Meredith , I don't know what to think of her boyfriend but I think the main instigator of this murder is Her!!!
She is innocent. It wasnt crazy blood but few drops and since there were several people using the bath room it could ve been bleeding nose that some people have. I wouldnt have thought much of it either excepr for my room mate. I had probably asked her why left the door open. Thats it. She was only 20 years old. Very young and naive
@@creativeminds5405 special when the Door was open and a used Toilet and blood l go and take a shower . This girl and her friend are big liars .l would look after the other girl soon . She is so clever and makes a lot of money with the books interviews and Netflix. She only has good lawer s .
@@dagmarzoepke6960 Are you serious? You live in a house with many other people. Used toilets are normal, blood drops are normal especially when you have girls in there and an open door happens all the time. She was very young back then too. I dont think you would think oh there are few blood drops someone has been killed...
@@mariusa.5863 As a law student all I can blame her for is stupidity, which can be explained a little by her Italian really being beginners level back then, and Raffaele being unable to speak proper English up to today. The investigation started malicious and became coercive, the press was vicious and irresponsible (so-called journalist telling himself he didn't fact check, that's on Netflix) and the prosecutor was one flew over the cuckoo's nest insane and not even ashamed to share his completely absurd theories, that he applied in practice. 🙄 One: if the body of the victim was covered, it was extremely likely that a female person was involved. Like... Whaaat?!?!?! This case blows my mind to today and I pray for Knox to keep holding on... I could go on for ages (especially about Giuliano Mignini's misogynistic and oversexualized delusions), since I'm highly familiar with the case and entirely convinced Amanda Knox is innocent.
Keep talking Amanda. I would like to know why, when Filomena asked you to call Meredith, to check up on her, the phone calls to both of her phones only lasted three seconds-was this because you knew she couldn't pick up? Yet in one of your emails, you stated that you tried to call her after your roommate told you to do so, and her phone 'rang and rang and rang'. Amanda Knox is two things, an actress and a murder!
Sure, she is a murderer, because she didn't let the phone ring long enough. Don't be ridiculous. Where did you even get that three seconds claim? And is that data even reliable?
Only a dedicated Amanda follower would describe the blood stains in the bathroom which include a bloody footprint as minute. Filomena and her friends could not wait to see if Meredith was there and hurt or not there at all. The only one that made sure she was away when the door was broken was Amanda, she must have known what they would find.
If you watch the testimonies of Jodi Arias, who was sentenced to life for stabbing her boyfriend, you see striking similarities. Both try to remain very calm, speaking in a monotone, giving lots and lots of details about insignificant things. Jodi lies over and over again, until someone calls her on it. Amanda has a multitude of lies, starting from the day at the cottage and throughout the trial. She also was caught and questioned thoroughly on the lies.
I think the complete opposite. Arias goes off on insane tangents about basically anything but the murder, whereas Know almost exclusively describes what happened that day, in chronologial order. She explains her weird hesitant behavior, in my opinion fairly convincingly. Even more importantly, she never once changes her story, let alone make up some wild story of Bonnie and Clyde style murderers who let her live and made her swear not to tell... You are terribly wrong.
She says thank goodness her boyfriend was there or else she wouldn’t know who to call but she had already called her mom? And phone reports say she called her mom intermittently throughout the whole situation that day?
On the handwritten note of Knox that Sollecito presented to the court, Knox wrote: ' Raffaele was not there ' This tacitly implies that she was. How else would she know who was there or not ? So again, she puts herself at the scene of the crime, since Sollecito told the police that she had left his apartment at 9:30 and that she didn't return to his place until 1 A.M. So where was Knox in those intervening hours ? On that alibi Sollecito distances himself from Knox.
She way over does it with the details. On and on and on. Rehearsed for years. So many little details and little explanations. She's lying. Another thing: she makes sure to say Filomena's room was spotless. Then she says she had called her because her room was ransacked. Uh, hello? I used to think she was innocent.
Listening to this without watching enabled me to hear more clearly the "weird" places where she laughed. I so want to believe her story, yet her behavior reveals a more sinister side.
Interesting....she said in a previous interview that she didn't think anything about the speckles of blood. Now in this interview she thinks the speckles of blood were related to menstruation
She never denied seeing blood. If you have not seen pictures and videos of the bathroom it was a few isolated single drop of blood. A drop here and a drop there.
@@vj9055 You do know about Rudy Guede right? The petty burglar that left all the indisputable evidence - such as his bloody palm print under Meredith's naked body?
Seems like she brought the mop that she used to mop up the bloody footprints that the lumidol picked up. I can honestly see now why Italy found them both guilty. What a shame on the overturning of the verdict.
Italian journalists accused the US embassy in Italy of interfering in Italys Judicial system, using their influence through Italian Government to order Italian judges to find her not guilty!
Well, I would not call it a shame because there is no smoking gun evidence of murder. She was tried for murder not accomplice to murder. If the prosecution had gone for accomplice, they probably would be successful with the supreme court.
It was "weird" to you that her door was locked.....and an hour later you told the police that Meredith was used to lock the door even to go to the bathroom?!?!? Something doesn't stand up!
Well, Knox has been accused twice of murder. Her school friends used to call her Foxy-Knoxy I imagine because she always escaped from trouble like a fox. Then as a teen ager she appeared at a police station for hurling stones at people's moving car windows which could have resulted in serious injury, which Knox showed no concern and now she has graduated to murder.
We have all done stupid stuff as kids. Throwing rocks at cars is particularly stupid. Seeing as nobody was harmed and it was forever ago, you ARE reaching hard with this comment. This is why we'd rather have impartial judges decide stuff like this than quick-to-conclude gossips.
She doesn't mention that Raffaele called and hung up on the Italian "911" the first time he called. Also, the Postal Police that happened in first, as well as the other roommates said Amanda tried to get people to avoid opening Meredith's locked door...by telling them Meredith always locked her door.
adi sh That was a lie. She didn’t shower. One of the policeman testified that she smelled like cat piss. One of Meredith’s friends testified that Raffaele told her that Knox didn’t shower. So, what was Knox doing at the cottage for over an hr.? Filomena & the police testified that the laundry in the washer was damp.
I remember thinking... I'm totally guilty and must clean up this crime scene! Murdering my roommate may have been a not so good idea. I brought the mop to Raffaelle's cuz he had a loose pipe. AND I needed to dispose of a really bloody mop.
For the last time: she did NOT mop up the crime scene. She went to get a mop to clean up Raffaele's flooded house. Actually, the fact that she did NOT clean up the blood shows that she was NOT guilty (what guilty murderer would go back to the scene of the crime, find blood, and not try to clean it up?)
@Jacky J Jones That would be true in an initial statement. But this interiew is years later, after others have questioned everything she says, so she's including explanations to all the things people have questioned her about.
at 5:40 she tells such a HUGE lie. according to ALL the witnesses that were at the house that day amanda was very nonchalant about merediths locked door. she even told them that she even locks her door to take a shower. everybody remembers her saying that. filomena was immediately very concerned and wanted it opened. in her weird email home from november 4th amanda, for the first time mentions being worried about merediths door being locked. she lied to delay the discovery of the body. on top of that. she wasnt in the immediate vicinity when the door was finally opened, which doesnt make sense with her apparent worry. she wasnt worried because she knew what was behind that door. she even says it here. at 10:38 she says "and thats when THEY discovered merediths body" why they? why not "we"? because she knew that it was there and because she was not in front of merediths door.
I'm glad you weren't in the jury. There's nothing with Amanda's nonchalance. It was known that Meredith locked the door after she took a shower. What's odd about that? When the door was opened, Amanda was right there, just behind the guys who tore it down. Yes, THEY discovered Meredith's body. Not her, because she was behind. There is absolutely nothing odd about these statements. You're contradicting yourself. You yourself admit "she was not in front of Meredith's door." So there...
@@dustiny.334 Which one? The man who admitted he uses heroin all the time, including when he was on the stand? The old lady who, on the stand, admitted: "I don't know about times or days..."? Or the supermarket manager, whose story changed 3 times, from: "I didn't see Amanda," to "Yes, I'm sure it was Amanda, and she was buying bleach!" Which one, please?
How did she know Meredith had her throat slit i.e. she admitted this to Meredith's friends & her flatmates when the police didn't even know the cause of death. Plus she admitted in the first trail no kitchen utensils had been taken too or from her house to her boyfriends, in order words, how did the victims (Meredith) & your DNA ned up on the exact same knife? She must have changed her story over 10 times about where she was on the night of the murder but her telephone & laptop records say otherwise. her blood along with the victim on taps, light switches, the bidet etc etc Plus the hard driver in hers & her boyfriend's laptop were removed from the actual laptop-bizarre. Eye witnesses saw her in the morning of 2nd Nov 2007 & the night before when she was supposed to be in bed. Honestly, it goes on & on & on & on & OJ Simpson style on & on....
I do not know what happened so I am upset with myself for emensly disliking Amanda Knox but I do. Everytime I see or hear her I have this extreme disgust, I feel I should apologize but how do you apologize for an honest reaction to something.
Agreed. 1. Knox’s DNA was found on the handle of the murder weapon, knife which belonged to Sollecito. Kercher’s DNA was found on the blade. 2. Knox claimed that she was with him the whole time, sound asleep until 10 a.m. but Sollecito’s computer was being used at 5:30 a.m. and his phone was turned on at 6:02 a.m. 3. Knox lied, first she said she wasn’t at crime scene then changed her story , admitted she was there but accused her boss Patrick Lumumba of murdering Kercher. Patrick was found to be innocent. 4. According to police investigation, Raffaele Sollecito held Kercher down whilst Knox used knife to stab her. Under Italian law, both should have got life imprisonment for murder.
I cant believe that any normal person would not be alarmed by finding their door open and blood in the bathroom. Why would she shower without knowing the reason why?
The thing is that Meredith's REAL friends testified in court that Meredith had had a fight with Knox where Meredith had accused Knox of stealing her money. So the money went missing BEFORE Meredith died. The Italian police also found in Knox's bank account that Knox had withdrawn large amounts of money, which they believe she used to buy drugs. Meredith used to call Knox Drugtard. There was animosity between the two specially when Patrick Lumumba fired Knox from her job for flirting with men.
Summary of Amanda Knox Interview I: i) I remember thinking I don"t know what to think; ii) everything looked completely normal; iii) blood in the basin could have been menstrual issues. not too much, so I didn't think someone could have been -ha ha ha- murdered.; iv) the faeces in the toilet made me freak out; v) if someone breaks in they would not bother raffling up the things; vi) Meredith' room was locked which meant she was in there; vii) I felt waves of emotion..
I haven't watched the behavior panel take on this as I like to watch the initial piece first and all I can say so far is that, to my mind, she does seem to be reciting a fair bit of created memory spliced around an experience. Quick edit: She does seem to be distancing herself from the scene quite heavily which is sus.
I totally agree. When she got to a place where she was measuring her words very carefully her eyes were looking up and to the left. She was making it up. Her brain would get scattered at convenient times. She couldn't explain that. Plus, her reactions didn't make sense. She's smart but she never thought she would be a suspect and took so long to grasp that. I would have known I would be a suspect just because I was there. She's lying.
That's right. Whilst Rudy Guedes was at the disco, Amanda and Raffaele were cleaning up the cottage and they were unexpectedly interrupted when the Postal Police suddenly turned up unannounced. This is why they did not have enough time to clean the bathroom where the two murderers had left their DNA mixed with the victim's DNA in the bidet, where Knox cleaned her bloody feet and in the sink, the faucet, the cotton bud box and Filomena's room and the half foot print of Sollecito on the bath mat
personally I go to just cutz for my hair as its cheap and ezy (like Knox) apparently she goes upmarket to "just sociopath's " in Seattle..its a 6 week waiting list
In a house where nothing was stolen, not even the jewellery that was in full view, not even the computer either. Knox and Sollecito however, were charged of stealing the two telephones belonging to Meredith and Filomena and the fact that it was Sollecito who reported the "brake-in" where nothing was stolen when the Postal Police had already arrived had found Meredith, raised serious suspicious to the emergency responder. Sollecito was asked to come in to the police station, he was their 1st susp
Correction: The bra clasp with 17 out of 17 loci belonging to Sollecito was found on day one and the forensic people noted on the same day they hadn't collected it. It was not until 47 days later due to DELAYING TACTICS BY THE DEFENCE that they were allowed to go back into the sealed crime scene and collect it with the defence present.
