Amanda Knox slander reconviction: Father says they're 'very disappointed' | Vargas Reports 

@@IncompetentKlutz She was the one who was framed. She was coerced into implicating an innocent man. The police made AK a scapegoat. RS and PL were just collateral damage.

I’d hardly call no DNA at the scene of the crime a technicality.

@@Capcoor ?

@@levdavid2412 AK’s DNA was not in the room where Meredith was murdered. Neither was RS’s. The only person whose DNA was at the scene was Rudy Guede.

She was forced to lie by torturing her psychologically.

"We still don't know for certain what happened that night." We do in immense detail. Read the 2009 trial report - there is a short version.

@@nillyk5671 "She was forced to lie by torturing her psychologically." Zero proof of that.

Yes we do. Even the Italian high court said that three people were involved in Kercher's murder. They included this when they sentenced Guede. But Knox and her PR helpers have all but buried that fact.

@@peterquennellnycThere was enough proof the ECHR believed her.

Hmmm...that sounds like an accusation. Maybe he should sue you for slander.

@@rogershuttleworth7669Amanda Knox tried to implicate an innocent man for murder 😂 Slander is too kind of a word…

@@jameshoulihan4313 this has been addressed repeatedly, look into the full details

@@jameshoulihan4313 No. The police implicated him and beat Amanda (literally) into going along with it.

Ok weirdo

Exactly a 20 something knows right from wrong #Excuses

A) What’s your point? B) At that age, in many ways, you are still very much a kid.

@@Capcoor I’m military MP, and federal officer so I know your smart enough why you can type and read.

@@eddyeroyal6024 Well, thank you for your service to our country, but what I said still stands. I am willing to concede that 20 is a legal adult if you are willing to concede that regardless of age, if you were interrogated by police - particularly if it is a coercive interrogation, as it was in this case - you don’t know what you’d do.

@ghostlygal-yb7ye Right. Barbie Nadeau's and James Raper's are great too.

Exactly! Why does the media keep trying to slander the Italian system on her behalf?

They do do it all the time here in the US.

@@leesteal4458 It’s not slander. It’s the truth.

be careful. If you suspect someone who is innocent, it will come back to you

​@@brittalbach416yup. There were so many trolls and weirdos out there.

You were thrilled on October 7th, weren’t you?

@@kevin6293 Amanda was the one doing cartwheels on that day. That's a fact!

@@dakotacoren6936 what do you mean? The murder was by a strong angry person absolutely gone wild. not Amanda and not Raffaele

Not once do they mention Meredith or even care. Entire family is sickening.

The only thing Amanda Knox ever said about the murder of Meredith is "The worst part of this is that it could have been me"

@@EM-mw2qr Shocking. I know.

@@Dianek07 Aren't they just.

@@KateEleanor And maybe it "could have been her" who was part of what caused this to happen to Meredith!

*Lies! Amanda was not convicted of defamation. Defamation is a completely different charge. In fact Lumumba himself defamed Amanda in the newspapers by making fantasy accusations against her that contradict what he said in court. Amanda was repeatedly defamed in court and in the newspapers throughout the trial and continues to be defamed to this day by people like you and your guru Quennell. It's far from "the end" as you put it. *You should know that the 1.45 as well as the 5.45 statements were deemed as expunged from the record as directed by the Supreme court to the Florence appeal court. Your reference to them is a complete waste of keystrokes. The only thing that was considered was the Nov 6th memoriale that was considered to be a retraction by the ECHR. *The Boninsegna motivation report acquitted Amanda of the slander of the cops you mention, so that's more wasted keystrokes. The ECHR judgement indicated that there was no investigation into the complaints Amanda had made about ill-treatment, so your comments about not having "said as much" is baloney. If there HAD been an investigation that found no wrongdoing then the poor slandered cops might have had a better chance of winning their case. They had the chance to appeal but neglected to do so. They only have themselves to blame. The irony is that the Boninsegna court cited Donnino thus: "In fact the witness confirmed that the phrase on record, see you later, should be understood as an invitation to a totally generic future meeting, equivalent to a presto [see you soon] or something similar, rather than to an imminent and certain invitation." Mama Mia! Why didn't she say that at the time? You cherry-pick the "stand by my statement" quote out of context in the same way as Harry Rag did, while neglecting the rest of the narrative where she refers to cop abuses as being the real reason behind her compliance with their insistance that Lumumba was involved. In fact the quote you cite refers to proceedings when the violations were actively taking place, and were expunged from the record. So yet again, you don't make any sense. In fact she said in her 1st memoriale that " Who is the REAL murder [sic]? This is particularly important because I don't feel I can be used as condemning testimone [sic] in this instance." Which looks to me like a withdrawal of her compliance. *There is no mention of the word "familiar" anywhere in the ECHR judgement so you are lying again. The judgement said that the cop Donnino had acted "a mediator and taking on a motherly attitude which was not called for in the circumstances" The judgement also concluded that Donnino's violations "compromised the fairness of the proceedings as a whole." The ECHR has no remit to evaluate the right or wrongness of domestic laws but to ascertain whether human rights have been violated. So more wasted keystokes. Yes the ECHR couldn't evaluate coercion or not but they did highlight the fact that no investigation took place to ascertain one way or the other. They also highlighted the fact (by citing Boninsegna) that: " it could be seen from the judgment of the Florence District Court of 14 January 2016 that Ms Knox’s statements of 6 November 2007 had been taken in an atmosphere of intense psychological pressure." The compensation Amanda received was "10,400 euros (EUR) in respect of non-pecuniary damage and EUR 8,000 for costs and expenses." That obviously doesn't include 4 years (3 for slander) of illegal imprisonment. *Yes, she remains convicted of calunnia but this will be appealled to the supreme court again. Even if they uphold the conviction it will still have to go past the ECHR committee of ministers to be acceptable. One thing the Florence court didn't do was to restore the proceedings "restitutio ad integrum" meaning that they should have redressed the events (as far as possible) to a point before the violations took place, i.e. before Donnino started acting beyond her remit. That didn't happen since the November 6th memoriale was written well AFTER the Donnino violations took place, and as a result of those violations. She also didn't have a lawyer to advise her on what to say in the memoriale, or even that she should make such a memoriale in the first place. Italy is a member state of the ECHR and has to comply with their judgement. The Florence court did the opposite. Your boat has sailed as far the main murder charge is concerned. Get over it. I'd stick to selling bugalows if I were you.

They planted that in her mind after hours of interrogation. When they discovered a message from her to him saying “see you later”.

@@plaidpaisley5918 - no, you made that up.

​@@mrn8645 That's what happened and they even misinterpreted what she wrote. She didn't mean that very same day but her Italian was bad back then.

@@nillyk5671 - The transcript doesn't support that. Plus, I recall her having deleted the message from Patrick, but not her reply to it. The police question why she would delete the reply to ''save space'', but not the actual sent message.

@@mrn8645That’s very common knowledge.

I can't believe it when i heard him refer to the brutal murder of the young student as a "bad situation" smh

That is why is daughter is the way she is. They have no sense of accountability.

His daughter was wrongly convicted of murder. That’s a situation.

Thanks to my co-worker (Alex) who suggested Ms Angela Christine Derle.

She's a licensed broker in the states 🇺🇸

After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my son's surgery (Andy). Glory to God.shalom.

Great to see you guys talking about her, she changed the game for me.

Such information we don’t get from must RU-vidrs, how can I get to her. ?

I think they found out the Black man was convicted for the murder .

@@lassiejr2115 She falsly accused her employer, Patrick Lumumba, a bar owner who had nothing to do with the murder.

If someone can do what she did to Kercher, lying must be a walk in the park.

She knocked herself out and she destroyed Patrick Lumumba's life.

She learned her skills in America.

That's what I think too. If you are a bad person you don't care about things like this. They really ruined her life and I hope she can be at peace even if she can't win this.

Because criminals return to the scene of the crime!

She can't help herself. Lance Armstrong anyone?

"The man who was convicted of murdering Meredith Kercher was Rudy Guede whose DNA was found in her room." MORE DNA of Knox was found at the crime scene than of Guede whose footprints led straight out the front door. Meredith's body had been rearranged. It was a pack attack. Guede was never ever found guilty as sole perp. The final Supreme Court ruling said Knox was undeniably at the scene - with blood on her hands. Smarter "anns" support Meredith.

She was bot seeking ro clear her name. Lol. The court brought the harges against her.

Because she's a narcissist!

"Cough"...look closer to home,Trump,Delphi,Karen Read,etc...and that's all current!

@@williamrae9954 Wouldn't matter if I did. It wouldn't change a thing! Amanda was found guilty if slander. Very appropriate!

@@dakotacoren6936 Your name ain't warrtiger9780

She’s obviously innocent

she could not have done it. She was convicted because of her eyes and because in her Halloween drug daze, she said yes I did it because the Italian authorities would not leave her alone grilling her for hours. But they found semen in Meredith' body. It was Halloween, the night of Satan, and a strong man tried to rape her and he killed her

She is 100% innocent. She didn't even know what a false confession was. No one advocates like she does. A guilty person would not have such passion about wrongful convictions. I hung out w Elizabeth in Perugia during the last trial.

they caught the real killer they had his DNA on file because he had broken into home before meredith was murdered. his finger prints were in blood and inside her. the only "sus" evidence was that they found her bfs DNA on the bra clasp that fell off the bra ...only the people that photographed the bra had already been touching the other evidence and they didn't even collect that clasp till months later when they realized they left it which is when they did the DNA test. the DNA was sooo small and the majority of the DNA on the clasp was the burglar. they had no ties to the burglar her OR her bf. she was just acting weird so they decided her and her bf did it.

they kept saying that morr than 1 person was involved which makes zero sense to me personally. so amanda comes home with her bf ans they decided to participate in the murder? lol makes no flipping sense whatsoever

No. She’s not going back to prison. The time was already served.

That's nothing compared to what she'll face on Judgment Day.

You have this backwards. The US has the world' largest prison population, by far. Its murder rate and incarceration rate are SIX TIMES those of Italy.

Yeah, like yours.

She's American. She is innocent

@@Queerz4Palestein Not for that reason, but okay.

And the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Listen to this twisted guy defending his murdering child. Sick.

Murders always go back to the scene of the crime .

Do you know AK met with Mingini a couple of years ago?

She's got to be making money somehow by doing this!

@@bullseye2474 She just wants to clear her good name once and for all.

@@Capcoor Wont change anything and she knows it. All the people who think she has a good name still will think that, and all the people who don't will still think she doesn't.

@@bullseye2474 But it would change something for her. She would be truly cleared of any criminal wrongdoing - at least on paper. It would give her a sense of closure knowing she disproved a lie about her. It would make her feel better about herself. Will some people still think the worst about her? Yes. But she will know the truth. If she feels it’s important to her, I say go for it.

@@Capcoor You really believe all that? 😄funny

Guilty!

Right. An industry.

Yes, she is!

Why? Dis you rwad anything about the case or dos you just listen to the news? Have you ever seen any sign of empathy for her roomie?

@@leesteal4458On her part, yes. I doubt you’ve done any research on the case. I mean, you don’t even know how to spell!

No, not even. Rudy Guede, regardless of his color, was a thief. Now he's out and apparently he's not changed. He's under surveillance now because of abusing his girlfriend. He can't leave where he lives either.

There were 3 people involved. 2 men 1 woman. I think they could handle one woman

@@Morticia1313 no, not true. Both Amanda and Raffaele went to prison totally innocent. This is actually old news. Rudy killed Meredith but due to political agenda, they let him go, did not want a colored murderer. Italian police had their instructions. Rudy then left Italy

​@@Morticia1313True. Even the Italian high court said as much. Funny how Knox isn't worried about the two who are still on the loose.

@formerlyfromthefuton8171 yes I agree. That is kind of strange🤔

As a result of coercion, AK signed some statements that the police wrote up stating that PL was there. She was deprived of food, water, sleep, breaks, yelled at, and hit in the course of the interrogation. When her mother called, they wouldn’t let her answer the phone. Apologies for saying this, but she said she had to go to the bathroom because she had a female issue. They wouldn’t let her.

Nothing hateful. Italy was safe and wildly popular amoung US students till Knox destroyed the nice truth here. BTW Knox was not an exchange student. She did not enroll at the university. She was self-funded with drugs eating into her savings.