I have never fully understood what quarter sawing wood truly was until I watched your video. Now I know how to do it and what to look for when buying it. Thanks so much for the education. Love your videos. Well done.
You can get a lot more quarter sawn boards. The process involves turning your cant a quarter turn back and forth. It is time consuming and gives you random width boards but will give you a lot more desirable lumber. This is the reason you see random width flooring in a lot of older homes that used materials from the home place to build.
Plus if you have the right trees this is the [figured] wood that guitar/fiddle etc makers find so desireable. I've seen electric guitar sized maple cuts go for $300
Agree 100%. Needs to be flipped for quarter sawn maximum yield. Widths will vary significantly, but the grain will be more consistent. This was just a "modified" flat sawn method, which = Flat + Riff + Quarter.
About 25 years ago I made a set of 3 conga's (drums) of quarter sawn red oak. For steambending, it 's the best wood I ever worked with. Nice to see you quarter sawing this beautiful material.
My dad and I had a Sanborn mini max portable mill when I was a kid. He was a master at cutting quarter saw boards and I didn’t even know it till I watched this video. Awesome
Not long at all when you enjoy what you’re doing. I loved watching this. Beautiful lumber. I wished I had gotten interested in this when I was younger. Thanks for posting the video. Keep them coming.
As a cabinet maker, I can truly appreciate this video. I always try to find the quartersawn lumber mixed in with the flat sawn lumber when I buy lumber.
Amazing - I can see clearly now thru my very old eyes I have to go find someone in my family tree to leave my equipment with someone as amazed by what nature has to offer. You make to best use of what you have and seem so grateful for all your discoveries that you are willing to share your love for it all.
El Dorado Woodcraft hobbies I had to laugh at this only because my 7 yr old grandson said the other day, “Gramma, even though I will hopefully be a grown man when you die, can I have all your tools?” Eek! Never be worth more dead than alive? It’s actually sweet. He has a love for what can be made and grain patterns already so it sees a logical choice. He may have to fight his dad for my mill though...
Great video. Like you said It’s like opening a Christmas present. I love milling rough lumber. I shared your enthusiasm with each cut. This is a great learning tool. I’ll look for more of your videos; the next best thing to being there. Thanks, Sawdust Bob.
I see your little dog likes the boards. My dog got on some boards that I was staining for my ceiling. I still put them up and laugh every time I see the paw prints.
Ausome red oak video & beat wood-mixer equipment, too! My dad was a well known carpenter, maker of neat cherished furniture. He got much of his quality lumber from the far off rain forest of Honduras, etc. for an expensive cost, but he dearly valued his work, so only tried to use the very best! His name was Angus Edward Cowle!
Nicely done - I worked as a incoming inspector and product matcher at local well known cabinetry company - when I trained people on the different type /grades of wood I would tell them quarter sawn looks like stretch marks on your body - I matched thousands of board feet of red and white oak - it's fun to learn new things
Just a friendly observation, you should look into using a Humboldt undercut (perhaps technically called a modified Humboldt) on your felling cut. This way you maximize your board footage from the base. Love the little guy too, he's really enjoying the sawdust.
I love red oak, and I love quarter-sawed oak. We recently had our kitchen remodeled in quarter-sawn white oak to match our new quarter-sawn table, and I smile every time I walk into that room. Good video, sir.
My friend thank you so much for your videos....I've watched a few. Just like your approach to things, your attitude and the content is just cool to see old things kept new. Keep cuttin dude
Thanks for this great video! I love that you get excited about seeing the beauty in the wood. As do I. A beautiful day, out in the forest, chainsaw in my hand-perfection!
Been watching you for a while now and I have learned a lot about milling I want to now get a small mill and start milling my own lumber for my wood projects that I do. Keep up the cool videos.
As much as I like quarter sawn material I'll just as soon take any of the rift on either side of it as well. Both are wonderful for furniture not only because of the look but also for long term stability. I do agree with many of the comments below however that you might want to revise your layout and cutting procedure in the future. You still got some great stuff. Kudos.
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Once you get the quartersawing process down, you will be handling smaller cants, but rolling the cant for each cut. The benefit will be that every board will look like those wonderful boards you got near the log center. You will also have many different widths as each cut on each cant will yield diminishing widths by the board thickness (plus the kerf). Nice tree you got there. You can do a lot with that saw.
You can get 2 wide qtr sawn boards by cutting the log down the middle and taking one off each half. Then you can get 4 pc by cutting the halves down the middle getting two pc. from each. Next you have to put each quarter on the saw such that you make a cut to the center of the log and then get two more boards off each quarter log, 8 pc. That gives you 14 boards of as much width as you can get and still be quartered. After this what you are likely to get are boards displaying rift, still nice but they won't be true quartered & they will be narrow. Red oak doesn't usually display as much nice fleck as white oak. You need to be very careful and align the saw cuts with the pith of the log on both ends. Logs should be end coated as soon as they hit the ground and then be sawn as soon as possible. Otherwise they will degrade and likely develop assorted cracks, stain and other defects. Get yourself information from the National Forest Service (available on line), Gene's book called the WOOD DOCTOR and Bruce Hoadly's book UNDERSTANDING WOOD. They have information on small drying systems that you probably should look into. Building a solar dry kiln & buying a moisture meter (one that costs at least $200) is a good next step. The books have information on each of those. Using this information will allow you to maximize the value of your little mill, logs and your labor. Have fun, be safe.
Yep. Pretty much what I was going to say - although the increase in quarter sawn is minimal with logs under about 16" diameter. The big advantage is that it give you two or more maximum wdith qtr sawn boards.
Ever since I first learned about quarter sawn lumber it sticks out like a sore thumb. You can't help but notice it. The first I remember seeing was in antique furniture. It was usually referred to as Tiger Oak in the trade. The rays in that stuff gets even more beautiful as it ages. I've also noticed in oak flooring which is flat sawn, you naturally get a percentage of quarter sawn scattered through the floor. I know you got it all figured out by now, but I really enjoyed watching your first shot at it. Thank you for sharing your fun.
@@dickmeisterling3924 Not if it's done right. He admitted he was new at this and had some learning to do. Check out this illustration. www.advantagelumber.com/sawn-lumber/quarter-sawn.html
Love the look of quarter sawn lumber. The Amish make a lot of furniture with this. The cost is higher obviously, but it's worth it! Great job on your video! Enjoyed watching it! I would agree with another post to take two boards, one on each side of the center line, full width. Would make a great top for a piece of furniture.
An effort well spent. Can you imagine, at one time in this country you could go to the millyard and buy as much of that stuff as you you wanted, absolutely clear and as wide as you needed it to be. Worked with an old carpenter who talked about making a kitchen table for his mom. Told me he went to the millyard to get a 36", clear white pine board for the top. I thought he was talking about the glued-up width - I was stunned when I realized he was talking about ONE board.
I have a good friend who cut a few nice oak trees off his dad's farm many years ago. After a few years, we loaded them on a truck and took them to a mill owned by his cousin. Years later, he met a girl and got married and they built a log home. Did the interior and kitchen with the red oak boards from the farm. Very beautiful!
As a boy my family had 9" beagles. At one time we had over 40. We had 3 litters of 7 each within 24 hours. It was awesome. They are great pets with cute personalities. Be well.
Great video and a wonderful first time effort in sawing Oak You have a great talent and a wonderful machine despite its smallness it does a great cutting job but I have to say the talent is in the operator Oh yes just love the tiny beagle great dog very inquizative
It's tough to get much yield from any log -- even with a bigger mill. I have a LT-40 Super Hydraulic and when I want some Q-sawn I find a huge oak log and split it down the middle with a chainsaw. Then I start whacking away and soon enough I'm into the cream. I did my kitchen floor with Q-sawn red oak. Looks great. I'm surprised that your butt log had so many knots in it. Still looks great. And to those who say that it isn't quarter-sawn -- the rules established by the NHLA pretty much say that if it looks quarter-sawn then it *is* quarter-sawn. Great vid. Thanks for posting.
localcrew I built my entire hour with quarter saw. Never touched it with a chain saw. Used my wood miser entirely. Chain saws waste too much wood for my taste. Built my kiln and dried the lumber on site.
We never got much yield on our big mill. We sawed in half and run out the far end. Load the halved logs back in. And saw away. 45 degree end grain or better in the boards. We laid it out after all was kiln dried as I graded it. Mostly if not set up for it The premium is not worth the yield. But you are right, if it looks quarter sawed then call it.
Never seen a miller put the wedge in the cut on top and then cut the log at the breakpoint on the bottom. I always used the wedge to keep the log from pinching the saw blade, not opening the first cut to offer breathing room for the log. Lol! Just flat sawed the log, beautiful grain, amazing!
That was a great video. The layers Just Before your Quartersawn Wood is termed "Rift Sawn", It is "halfway" from Flat Sawn to True Quarter Sawn, for Hard Wood Flooring it is MORE Durable (resistance to wearing out) than Flat Sawn, but Not as Resistant to Wear than Quarter Sawn. As a Floor Mechanic (Installer of flooring) the Largest Floor I worked on was 7,000 Square Feet, and our Contract Stipulated White Oak Rift Sawn for the Best Cost Factor in Wearability versus Money Spent. It was milled by Smith Flooring /company, and the WOOD itself was Contracted to be cut from a Very SPECIFIC Growing Region, from which was the Densest White Oak grown in North America. The Flooring was 3 1/4" X 3/4" and Specified a length of cuts No shorter than "Dueces" or Two Footers (Average Length of Dueces varies 6 inches overall, so 18" to 30"; then the Longest Possibles cuts of course!!! (varied up to 9 feet long). That was to keep the floor from looking "too busy" an optical illusion based upon size Square Footage of the floor and Just looking down at it! That was for a Winery that was built in the Late '80's through Early 90's in Napa County, California. the Total Contract Time, from Smith Co. Milling then delivery, to Finished Floor was nearly 18 MONTHS, due to That "Rift Sawn" section of the contract: it took the Mill nearly 9 months just to produce that much RIFT SAWN Flooring! I was the Last person to actually work on the floor itself, As we needed to Install Bronze Floor Plates to cover Electrical Outlets AFTER the floor was finished. That (sub-contract) was over 40 hours of work in itself!
