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@shripadlale7476
@shripadlale7476 5 лет назад
Great review! In depth and impartial! I was shocked that living in India, I would always try to buy my best tools when I travelled abroad. Looks like some 'Made in India' brands are our best kept secret! Thanks for letting me know!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
Check out the IndianDIY blog for more tools from your country!
@AwfulErik
@AwfulErik 4 года назад
Bought the grizzly block plane and a 22" smoothing plane and set them up just like you did and can't be happier with them. The 22" did take substantially more lapping to make the sole dead flat. I also slightly lapped the very edges and leading flat with a microscopic bevel like Paul Sellers. They both work great.
@getenlightened
@getenlightened 3 года назад
So, where's the "end of the summer, big shoot out, testing video" ??
@proutsos
@proutsos 5 лет назад
Hey I bought this bighorn plane in a big box store in Greece and if you overlook the somewhat questionable fit of the handles and the fact that the cam does not work its steel is hard and works a charm! It is now my go-to plane!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
I'm glad SOMEONE is getting some good use out of theirs!
@christiandestefano9997
@christiandestefano9997 3 года назад
I can absolutely tell you are an author/writer during your evaluations. Great stuff.
@renecruz2842
@renecruz2842 4 года назад
All of my hand planes are wooden, either bought or made, but I wanted a metal plane for my smoother for better accuracy and speed. I had been eyeing the Grizzly smoother for a long time and this video finally got me off the fence and I bought it. It is AWESOME!!!! Mine didn't need a lot of tune up, so I was up and running pretty quickly. I actually used it to prep some stock to build ANOTHER plane. Thanks Rex. Life's better now!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 года назад
That's DELIGHTFUL! I think I will do future videos on using this plane to make more planes.
@createdezign1840
@createdezign1840 4 года назад
I have 4 Faithful planes. No.3,4,5 and a block plane they work just fine after fettling and learning how to sharpen correctly.
@MrBalloonatic
@MrBalloonatic 4 года назад
hi, i was just wondering if you ever released that video guide on which is the best plane for a budget buy?
@anthonymiller8979
@anthonymiller8979 5 лет назад
While the hollows are disappointing I prefer that over a convex surface. It is really hard to hold the plane square to the sandpaper and keeping your grind uniform. At least with a hollow it will not rock side to side and you can just concentrate pressure where you want it
@michaellang9443
@michaellang9443 5 лет назад
Seems like this would've been a good candidate for the ruler trick!
@Anna_and_Tiger
@Anna_and_Tiger 4 года назад
Think I've seen this video 5 times. Love the content, Rex has that personality every teacher should have, he makes learning fun again.
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 4 года назад
Wrong! That’s like saying every electrical cable is the same. They’re not Stanley copies, that frog is record copy. Why ship the rosewood to other countries if it’s origin is India? Middlemen have no elegance to you buyers. What you expect from English tools you can’t expect from India tools. The electric plane exists and it superseded hand planes and so did machine planes.
@MyHouseOnTheMoon
@MyHouseOnTheMoon 5 лет назад
Got my Draper for $31 after shipping! Thanks for the recommendation!
@brettkirby1827
@brettkirby1827 4 года назад
How well is the Draper treating you?
@tullochgorum6323
@tullochgorum6323 2 года назад
In the UK the Spear and Jackson is painted and is the cheap model. The Draper is powder coated, so it seems to be the better model. Cost is £21, and it's branded as the Draper 45241 Expert Smoothing Beech Wood Plane.
@Detstorm
@Detstorm 5 лет назад
I have a spokeshave from this company, thick blade and its held up really well. Great video!
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 4 года назад
Wrong! You failed to communicate.
@Snedesk
@Snedesk 5 лет назад
Looking forward to more”real” unsponsored plane comparisons. Thanks Rex
@somika87
@somika87 5 лет назад
He specifically says at the end of the video that he's not sponsored by anyone except for his patrons on Patreon.
@Snedesk
@Snedesk 5 лет назад
@@somika87 That's what I meant as in thank you for being forthright and buying them yourself. No snarkiness intended.
@quietrioter
@quietrioter 4 года назад
To quote an ad that keeps popping up every now and then for me. To all the quality stuff out of India: INDIA! INCREDIBLE INDIA! INDIA!
@davidwillard7334
@davidwillard7334 3 года назад
THAT! SOUNDS !! LIKE !! GRAND !! SALE !! AND HURRY !!! ( BY THREE TIMES SAYING !! IT TO BOTH ! WORDS !! )
@michaelhudson1892
@michaelhudson1892 5 лет назад
Rex I bought one of these. The issue of the advance can be fixed by adding a small piece of aluminum the same thickness of the blade and long enough to go from the opening for the advance lever to the bolt that holds the blade and chip breaker together. The advance lever end has a place to grip and does not fall into the space of the blade slot. I also made one with a slot in the insert piece so it passes on each side of the blade/chip breaker slot bolt in the blade slot. I'm still experimenting with it but it seems to work great with this addition.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
I'm not following you, but I'm interested. Any way I can see a pic?
@michaelhudson1892
@michaelhudson1892 5 лет назад
@@RexKrueger Hey Rex where do u want me to send a couple pics. I don't have Instagram
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
Messenger?
@johnross4605
@johnross4605 5 лет назад
Thanks for your video .I was having the same problem with my Stanley. Worked it out. Machined it square. Now I can shave my wood so thin that you can only see one side.
@68HC060
@68HC060 5 лет назад
Remember to put your wood the right side up after shaving it then. ;)
@torque9889
@torque9889 5 лет назад
I bought this one under Faithfull brand and splashed out on a Stanley sweetheart (modern one) an funny enough I keep going back to this for most of my work. It’s more comfortable to use an I find it nicer to adjust, I only use the Stanley for the final finish.
@DavidOmaha1
@DavidOmaha1 5 лет назад
So glad to hear that Indian tools are making headway into the American market.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
These ones are!
@sripal.jain4
@sripal.jain4 5 лет назад
Friend - I appreciate your deep knowledge and observation into the subject
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 4 года назад
Wrong! Real buyers by 3 of each.
@johnbesharian9965
@johnbesharian9965 3 года назад
@@dreyn7780, Hmm. I can't seem to find any of your torture test, comparison tool videos on the internet. Do you have any?
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 3 года назад
@@johnbesharian9965 oh, so you’re playing the human surprise game. You’re reported to the authorities for hate speech. You really hate people.
@shawnpitman876
@shawnpitman876 3 года назад
@@dreyn7780 You have got to be the dumbest person I've ever seen capable of even writing a sentence.
@sailorguyli
@sailorguyli 5 лет назад
Luv it About 2 years ago I bought a Stanley low angle jack plane to use on my shooting board. Was over $100 but best price I had ever seen. Checked the right side vs the sole for square and it was out .006 across the sole. Called Stanley and couldn't get assurance that a replacement would be any better as it would be from a fulfillment center. So I stripped it and set it up on a milling machine. Milled a test piece first then the plane right hand side ( not the sole). Hand rubbed it smoother and it is perfect
@63DegreesNorth
@63DegreesNorth 5 лет назад
I missed this one, but I look forward to the Rex Premiers videos. It's great to have a bit of direct chat and interaction with a favourite RU-vid creator and I spend most of the 15-20 minutes lead-in with a big grin or laughing at some of the chat that takes place.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
I'm glad you enjoy it!
@phbrinsden
@phbrinsden 5 лет назад
I bought a few Stanley Sweatheart era planes (1930s) and fully restored them. They are about the pinnacle of Stanley development (except their Bedrocks). Really excellent castings. Buy cheap from eBay and enjoy restoring them. I also restored a full set of Stanley Bedrocks (including #2) from junk status and installed Hock blades and chip breakers. These are my users and they are awesome. During the restoration I applied real asphaltum coating which is far superior to paint or powder coating. Those Victorians knew something! You can buy #4 and #5 regular Bailey pattern very inexpensively and have the real thing. Bravo Rex for encouraging people to use handplanes. Love to see it.
@69fcortina
@69fcortina 5 лет назад
If you can find one economically, this is a great solution. For some reason, the price on some older Stanleys go through cycles where even junk ones aren't particularly cheap, at least in the US version of Ebay.
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 4 года назад
Notice how humans destroyed the tools? Humans are scum who destroy all tools. You’re no exception.
@red58impala
@red58impala 5 лет назад
Nicely done Rex and very informative. That Grizzly looks a lot like the Taytools no. 4, and with the adjusting screw for the frog, it appears to be made by the same company. They are quite proud of their plane and their price reflects that... $80 delivered. When they first started offering their line of planes, they were much closer in price to Grizzly's current pricing. Even though I am all set with my smoothing planes, I'll keep watching because I enjoy your content. Keep up the good work!
@YCBurninator
@YCBurninator 5 лет назад
I have the Taytools no. 4, and I think that it is the same plane. It's also the same design as used by Rockler for their Bench Dog no. 4 (though Rockler has the lever cap with a brass color as opposed to chrome). I have purchased both of the two planes above, and have seen some quality control issues. The Rockler no. 4 that I had was badly scraped up, had a rough and out of square frog, and just didn't fit together quite right. Otherwise, the same things that Rex saw with the Grizzly were present with Rockler. I returned that plane, as I had hoped that the increased price would have meant that the setup would have been a bit easier (I've restored 6 planes from rusty condition, but I wanted to invest less time in that one). The Taytools plane was purchased when it was just under $40 shipped via eBay and was pretty easy to set up. I have noticed the blade doesn't want to advance far enough when set up with the chipbreaker set close to the edge of the blade. This is both from the same screw issue seen with the Big Horn plane, and the chip breaker hole ending up hitting the screw that tensions the lever cap (you can see it happening at 12:40-12:43 in this video). My lateral adjuster was also off-center, so adjusting it is a bit annoying. Overall, I think this is worth it for the price Grizzly is offering the plane for, but not as much at the current Taytools price.
@colinheyl7245
@colinheyl7245 3 года назад
Interesting! My new "Silverline" plane looks veeeeeeeeeeery very similar. And mine is awkward, getting it to advance too.
@chriswoods7452
@chriswoods7452 3 года назад
It’s amazing. Silverline, Spear and Jackson, Draper.....all similar prices. I want a no.7 next, already having a vintage Acorn no4 and Record no5, but the jump from a Chinese/Indian one for £45 to an Irwin on for £120 is obviously significant.
@2dividedby3equals666
@2dividedby3equals666 5 лет назад
I really appreciate your videos Rex. Especially the fact that you don't go out to the sponsored route, thanks for the video and take care!!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
My pleasure!
@Clem68W
@Clem68W 6 месяцев назад
Okay...thing about the chipbreaker not being engaged by the adjuster explains many of my problems now. Genuinely helpful, thanks!
@davidcampbell2845
@davidcampbell2845 4 года назад
Good job. Clear, effective and accurate analysis. Thanks for your time.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@magicdaveable
@magicdaveable 5 лет назад
Great Video Rex. I have quite a few Grizzly branded tools. For the money they are excellent.
@nickkropat8857
@nickkropat8857 5 лет назад
I also have 2 Grizzly planes that I use as scrub planes. They arent amazing, but they are VERY workable for the price.
@ElderlyFatGuy
@ElderlyFatGuy 5 лет назад
I have the 10" smoother and 22" jointing planes by Grizzly, upgraded with Hock irons and chip breakers. It more than doubled the price, but still cheaper than even a Bench Dog or Wood River, let alone a Veritas or Lie-Nielsen. Highly, highly recommended.
@johncaulfield8621
@johncaulfield8621 4 года назад
Well, I'll tell ya what Rex: I bought the Grizzly 22" jointer plane for something like 80 bucks. Very flat, very square, and a solid build, but the iron was absolute junk, it wasn't even near flat. So here's what I did: I bought an IBC plane blade from Woodcraft for 40 dollars on sale, regularly 60 dollars. They have the ones that fit a Stanley/Record planes. Well I'll tell you what...Now it performs fantastic, like a 350 dollar plane and that's no BS. I absolutely loveitloveitloveit ! ! !
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 года назад
The iron is a challenge in these.
@Ed-lz4jv
@Ed-lz4jv 4 года назад
Is what I am thinking, I want a #7 plane....I have #3thru #6 stanleys already. All of them I replaced with HOCK blades - much better :) ...may get the Grizzly #7 and do the same
@op25ttfd
@op25ttfd 5 лет назад
I am so glad to see you finally got to the Grizzly. I plan to buy their jointer plane since I have a 4 and 2 #5's
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 4 года назад
You aren’t being social here chum. Explain yourself. Who are you? Why should we listen to you? Then you wait for a response. Okay!
@op25ttfd
@op25ttfd 4 года назад
@@dreyn7780 what the hell are you talking about?
@zoltan2728
@zoltan2728 10 месяцев назад
@RexKrueger You just made a handplane sandwich 😂😂😂 1:04
@jesstheone231
@jesstheone231 4 года назад
I have pretty much the same plane with the same blade advancement problem. I got it at Harbor Freight for $15 + came with a bonus mini-plane which I actually really like once I got it all fixed up. One issue (in addition to All of the Probs Rex mentioned) was that the holes where the tree attaches to the base were not totally bored out, so it was a little crooked overall, and not close enough to the mouth to allow much blade advancement. Also (fyi), when selecting my plane at the retail location, I carefully inspected each one to make sure I got the best chance at a decent tool. There is SO much variation between individual planes. Mouth size, for example, was > 1/2 " variance! I chose the smallest opening thinking I could enlarge it if need be. I also had to make a new handle. These are made for folks with tiny hands. Love your channel Rex! Keep up the good work. (P.S. I also bought the #33 there (which Rex looks at in another video) for same price, and I have had slightly better results.)
@zhiccai
@zhiccai 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for talking about the those 2 planes, i was very puzzled by those 2 planes; and wasn't sure if they were worth it.
@andreashofmeyr9583
@andreashofmeyr9583 4 года назад
Thanks - probably saved me a lot of money.
@subhrajit0993
@subhrajit0993 4 года назад
Rex you are totally awesome!! I couldn't stop myself from subscribing your channel. This is highly popular in India and I was always thinking what would experts like you would feel about this. Sobha is a small but quality tool maker and little pricey for our indian taste( we are a little price sensitive people :) or just cheap people ha ha) . Thank you again for such quality content, I have been going over your channel for last 4 hrs non-stop!!
@nikburton9264
@nikburton9264 5 лет назад
I bought a cheapo Harbor freight from the store in Lima, Ohio. Not square at all and just...rickety. But the iron from it was good. It took forever to sharpen cause the steel is so hard, but it will shave padauk, pau Amarillo, and bubinga, and it needs is a bit of stropping to put it back to razor sharpness. I picked up another one (harbor freight) at a yard sale and the iron was garbage, so, they aren't consistent. But the iron on first one was worth the time and effort to make a wood body. The rest are on the scrap pile, although I'm thinking I may want to try re-tempering the iron from the yard sale plane..
@animematt99
@animematt99 5 лет назад
I recently got one from Irwin. The iron was so soft it bent and curled after a couple passes on some oak. If the recent ones from harbor Freight have good Irons, maybe I will see if they will fit in it.
@drawlele
@drawlele 5 лет назад
@@animematt99 he did say they aren't consistent and no I bought one from harbor freight about two months ago, Jack and block combo for $17 whole thing sucked, iron was hard as hell but the cutting edge was at a 15° angle, block plane wasn't so bad but $17 for a block plane is silly
@michaelgibson2163
@michaelgibson2163 4 года назад
Bought a rapier 500 last year from our habitat for humanity store. $25. Used your insights to tune er up and i love it. Sometimes its not online that the best quality shows up. But i love old tools also.
@RYwoodview
@RYwoodview 6 месяцев назад
Recently got the Big Horn chisel plane. Excellent quality, ready to go with a little honing.
@jamesmcbriarty2079
@jamesmcbriarty2079 4 года назад
I've read some good things about another Indian brand called Anant. They seem to be marketing themselves as a compromise between the entry level Stanleys and the high-end Lie-Nielsens and Veritas models.
@70newlife
@70newlife 4 года назад
Same one fine woodworking called fit to be a paper weight.
@horseblinderson4747
@horseblinderson4747 4 года назад
@@70newlife sure they did, that keeps their sponsorship and advertising value.
@jtscustomcutlery317
@jtscustomcutlery317 9 месяцев назад
1:08 I love this guy 😂
@JJR1476
@JJR1476 5 лет назад
Never thought Indian made plane could live up to your expectations. Thanks for the video . Cheers from Haryana , India.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
The Grizzly TOTALLY lived up to my expectations. Do you hear about Sobha planes in India? Are they popular?
@JJR1476
@JJR1476 5 лет назад
Never heard of it , dear Sir..
@arpitagarwal82
@arpitagarwal82 4 года назад
@chandraguptawillruletheworld xx Its Soba. Shobha is different company.
@subhrajit0993
@subhrajit0993 4 года назад
@@arpitagarwal82 nope it's same. This is quite popular 😂 in india if you are a handtool worker. almost every indian diy woodworking group I am part of , praise sobha or soba highly. I have 4 planes and so does many from the group. While I am no expert, every expert in the group praise all of their planes barring the low angle Jack plane which even Rex gave bad review.
@twcmaker
@twcmaker 3 года назад
The most common problem with cheap planes.. at 10:03 the top end of the yolk that connects with the cap iron. Brilliantly put. Rex, I'm beginning to love your videos. It's these tiny details that only come through experience. Great piece 👍
@frankmazzella5317
@frankmazzella5317 4 года назад
Since I spend some time in India, I was able to buy 2 planes in India from Soba, the cost was 2100 INR about $28 USD. They were worth the set up time.
@mikemorris9838
@mikemorris9838 4 года назад
Have you tried the "AmazonBasics" brand planes or chisels at all?
@rex8255
@rex8255 5 лет назад
A guy named Rex. Who figured things out. SOUL BROTHER!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
Brother indeed!
@ricsanders69
@ricsanders69 5 лет назад
Wow....one of the best hand-plane videos that I've ever seen...thank you! I have several old Bailey-Stanley hand-planes that I've restored and they serve me quite well...I wouldn't mind getting a few modern one...I've just not found any for the right quality AND price...maybe I need to look again.
@vladimirlopez7840
@vladimirlopez7840 4 года назад
Those planes look like #4 smoothing planes and are really not meant for heavy cuts. A jack plane would be better suited for a heavier shaving.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 года назад
The length of the plane is irrelevant to the thickness of the shaving. A scrub plane is small, yet it takes the heaviest shaving of all. If the plane won't do a variety of cuts, then it's not worth buying.
@ThePillenwerfer
@ThePillenwerfer 5 лет назад
That Big Horn looks very like Axminster's Rider range, having the same straight knurling on the adjusting screw and the body sides that are halfway between Baileys and Bedrocks. I've heard good reports of those too. The Grizzly looks like Silverline's.
@adityamuley87
@adityamuley87 4 года назад
Shout out from fellow woodworker from India! :)
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 года назад
Any interesting tools or techniques from India that the rest of us should know about? I'm always interested in how other cultures do it.
@adityamuley87
@adityamuley87 4 года назад
@@RexKrueger check out this article. medium.com/@helpmebuild/traditional-indian-furniture-designs-and-techniques-ae325e5a459b Look at Jaali style of wood panel. The net pattern helps have air circulation in hot climate while giving privacy to your windows or doors.
@watermain48
@watermain48 5 лет назад
Nice comparison Rex, thanks. While I like a bargain as much as the next guy I took the plunge and invested in Wood River handplanes for my shop.
@MechaStreisand1
@MechaStreisand1 5 лет назад
The Woodriver planes have the same problems as the planes in this video. Don't ask me how I know...
@watermain48
@watermain48 5 лет назад
@@MechaStreisand1 I believe you are wrong about that. Mine were made in China.
@LilyJaneH
@LilyJaneH 3 года назад
I have had good luck with the Taylor Toolworks planes. Both of mine came very flat and pretty well set up. I still need to do a little polishing and some maintenance is overdue, but I really love them.
@DHM_Creative
@DHM_Creative Год назад
Not sure how you did it, but I’m addicted to your videos 🤘🏽😆♥️ I’m always coming back and i just kinda tinker with wood work 😅
@Arachnos27
@Arachnos27 3 года назад
I remember watching this channel a long while ago, I’m beating myself up for not subscribing. Super glad I found it again!
@craigmonteforte1478
@craigmonteforte1478 4 года назад
The close ups of the planes give me flashbacks of my Childhood when my Dad went to work and i was a kid i used to go into his Shop ( our Basement ) and clean and organize his tools for him one of those days i tried using his Handplanes on a scrap board and tried to adjust it using the knobs before i knew it i had it completely apart and had no idea on how it went back together correctly I panicked and just half ass put it all back together so all the parts stayed with that Plane Dad never did ask me about that as i assumed he simply put it back together correctly after i saw him using it on the next project I ronically for myself i wound up becoming a Professional Woodworker for over 20 years later on in life where i learned how to refurbish old planes and how to take them apart and put them back together correctly Of course Professionally we mostly used power tools to build most of the projects we made but occasionally i still enjoy hand planing on certain projects and have even made special projects or gifts using only hand tools for that one
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 4 года назад
You’re not being social here.
@joshuamacdonald4913
@joshuamacdonald4913 2 года назад
I have an old hand plane I bought new a number of years ago. I think it was made by these guys.
@GregWallis
@GregWallis 5 лет назад
Good stuff and really interesting. But how about a video on budget jointing planes? Or does no one really use these anymore? Many thanks.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
I use jointers all the time. I like wooden ones. Rather than buying them, I think we'll build ours!
@VinlandAlchemist
@VinlandAlchemist 5 лет назад
Another excellent vid, Rex! I can't tell you enough how I really appreciate how in-depth the information you provide is... to be able to tweak a tool from frustrating to more than satisfactory is really quite invaluable - oh, and those planes... excellent find! Thanks so much for this ^_^
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
My pleasure!
@calebkirkbride8439
@calebkirkbride8439 5 лет назад
You're the man Rex!
@matthewbonnet4402
@matthewbonnet4402 5 лет назад
The sole of these planes seems to be a batch by batch situation. The Grizzly 10" I just got was significantly bowed out in the center, enough that it would rock on flat glass, with a ton of sanding later and it's nearly flat. The rear handle bolt was just barely short enough to hold the handle firmly, if the wood shrinks at all I'll need to shorten the bolt. Everything else was the same as your review.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
It's unfortunate that for at this price point, really good quality control is just not possible. But it's nice to hear that your problems were fixable.
@charleskyler1928
@charleskyler1928 5 лет назад
What about buying a used Stanley #4 or 5, and to sided diamond plate for about the same cost. Refurbing an old plane takes the same skill set as adjusting then new planes. Just a thought. Cheers.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
Many people cannot find old planes at all. They need new tools they can just order on the internet.
@charleskyler1928
@charleskyler1928 5 лет назад
Rex Krueger I was thinking EBay, like you’ve mentioned in some of your other videos. I’ve also found that most people have a grandfather/dad/uncle that have/has one that is free for the asking. I’ve done a few demos on how to get them back into working order. Many were never fettled to begin with and are in like new condition with minor surface rust and white paint streaks from when they tried to plane a door edge and failed due to a factory edge. You know the story. Keep up the good work.
@th3b0yg
@th3b0yg 4 года назад
There's some good whiskey coming out of India these days also...
@bobharrison2212
@bobharrison2212 3 года назад
Eerrrrrr no whiskey comes from Scotland not India
@th3b0yg
@th3b0yg 3 года назад
@@bobharrison2212 I think there are some folks in Kentucky and Tennessee who'd disagree. And Ireland. And Japan. I love a good, smokey Islay Scotch, but Whiskey is a medium that many artists work in.
@JJR1476
@JJR1476 Год назад
True...!!! Try Amrut single malt sometime.....🥃
@borjesvensson8661
@borjesvensson8661 3 года назад
A hollow in the middle of the iron is not really a problem as long as its flat from where the chip breaker meets the iron
@madhatte73
@madhatte73 5 лет назад
Grizzly also sells machine tools like mills etc. A thing I have found is that tools like this where the company name is all about price point and the manufacturing is all done by one (separate) outfit, there seems to be a sorting process where some importers get first pick. For machine tools, Jet seems to get the first pick, then Grizzly, then Shop Fox etc. Apparently Grizzly is ahead of others in the hand tools line. Not at all sure how this is negotiated, but the arrangement seems pretty old. I have a 1980 Jet-16 mill drill which is a solid machine made in Taiwan. It's no Bridgeport, but for $500 it's a fine unit.
@joshuas1767
@joshuas1767 5 лет назад
I appreciate the fact that you test out the cheap import (or knock offs) that most of us could afford, but aren’t willing to risk wasting money on potential garbage. You should look into a harbor freight power tool review. They have actually been trying to move from the cheap throw away stuff, to more reliable tools over the past couple years.
@oliverdelica2289
@oliverdelica2289 3 года назад
Yeah but, Rex is more on hand tools these days
@grumpyoldsodinacellar3518
@grumpyoldsodinacellar3518 Год назад
My main beef is the amount of free play in the adjuster wheel fork, I corrected this by making a thin brass plate, cut from an old lock, and bending it around the divet, this was secured in place with a drop of super glue.
@perrinekld7451
@perrinekld7451 3 года назад
Indian/Pakistani handmade stuff in general has great value for price, with huge quality potential.
@arnehermann3417
@arnehermann3417 5 лет назад
Thanks for the info Rex! One criticism, and not a big deal because you were just "testing", but Rex, when you were testing the jack plane on end grain you were planing *PARALLEL* to the face of your vise which caused the board to move! Much more control can be achieved of course by planing perpendicular to the vise face (i.e. "toward" the bench").
@ardvarkkkkk1
@ardvarkkkkk1 4 года назад
Arne Hermann Or just tighten the vise.
@sgsax
@sgsax 5 лет назад
Great to know that there are inexpensive options that are decent. I like options. Thanks for sharing!
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 4 года назад
Wrong! Out of date technology.
@ThePillenwerfer
@ThePillenwerfer 2 года назад
The frog adjusting screw looks like the type introduced by Record in 1976.
@dannyhale7645
@dannyhale7645 5 лет назад
My daughter started college last week and the Grizzly store in Springfield, MO is on the way there. I had to go help her run an errand yesterday, so I stopped by Grizzly on the way home. That place is huge, and they have an even bigger building across the street that I'm guessing is their warehouse. There was a room for clearance and closeout tools that was almost as big as my house. In all that huge space, they only had about 12 hand planes. I guess they mostly sell power tools. They did have quite a few other hand tools, though. You might be interested to know, Rex, that I emailed Aldi several months ago to ask about their woodworking chisels, because I've heard they're pretty good and very cheap. They said they should be in stores in September. It might be a good option for you to review.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
Man I keep stopping by my local Aldi to see if they have chisels and they NEVER do.
@dannyhale7645
@dannyhale7645 5 лет назад
I stopped in Aldi a few days ago. No chisels. So I emailed them again, and got this response, "Our "ALDI Finds" program allows us to provide customers with unique items available for a limited time. With new ALDI Find products coming in every week, we have to sell them quickly to make room for the next exciting offers. The item(s) in question was an ALDI Find we carried in our stores while quantities lasted. Unfortunately, we are unable to get any more at this time." Bummer.
@dannyhale7645
@dannyhale7645 5 лет назад
They also said that you can go to their website and sign up for their weekly newsletter, that has information about upcoming "find items".
@jhowe5571
@jhowe5571 5 лет назад
As far as those planes go, they're both smoothing planes, modeled somewhat closely to a Stanley-Baily No 4. Adding "jack" to the description is a mis-nomer, as a real jackplane would be modeled after the Stanley-Baily No 5 and is an inch or so longer than a No 4.
@arlingtonhynes
@arlingtonhynes 3 года назад
I got an Indian low angle block plane from Garrett Wade. Looked good, but the sole wasn’t square to the sides so I sent it back. The blade would have taken some work. They do have a good return policy, but do yourself a favor and keep your own copy of the tracking number.
@martinseelig585
@martinseelig585 5 лет назад
I've got also an Indian plane as my first plane. Mine is made by "Anant", it workes perfectly for almost everything but the sides unfortunately aren't square. I've bought it for 50€ from Dictum here in Germany. There is also one you might want to check made in Germany, "Kunz" makes a "cheap" No4 Plane (unfortunately with plastic handles) that is available for around 75€.
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 5 лет назад
The Silverline no 4 is available in the UK and is very similar to the Big Horn and is available from Amazon for around £10 ($13) and around £14 from Toolstation for those interested. Probably in the made in the same factory. I also have a review on my channel. It doesn't have the same issue with the adjuster that the Big Horn though. One issue though is that if you have the chip breaker down to far then you do not get enough travel.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
That's a common problem with these budget planes. Drives me crazy!
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 5 лет назад
@@RexKrueger It's odd, in that all they'd need to do is move the hole up the chip breaker a little. I also have just acquired a no 4 Marples plane, which though in poor condition does have a Marples blade. They are very very good.
@gazpal
@gazpal 4 года назад
An easy fix for adjusting for a heavier cut is to adjust the chip breaker/cap iron further back from the cutting edge. This allows the blade give a heavier cut without any major adjustments to the cap iron or it's screw, as you only realistically need to cut very slightly deeper. Another adjustment you can make - to obtain a heavier cut - is to camber the cutting edge more heavily, but this tends to be reserved for use with the jack plane #5. Best comparisons can be drawn if checking measurements/dimensions used by makers such as Stanley and then compare these with the cheaper planes in this video.
@zenoist2399
@zenoist2399 5 лет назад
If India can get a name for quality they'll really go. This will take some time but I am sure there are folks out there with the ness attitude for top quality instead of cheap. At the minute its all about stuff that sells which is cheap.
@noahschmartz2354
@noahschmartz2354 4 года назад
Anything is better than funding China until the CCP falls.
@horseblinderson4747
@horseblinderson4747 4 года назад
Mahindra has the original farmall tooling dies and molds.
@rapboyz89
@rapboyz89 4 года назад
I'm trying to setup something where i have the plane iron made in India but with the quality and finesse of high end tool company
@shaman935
@shaman935 4 года назад
@@horseblinderson4747 Interesting! Is this the Farmall farm tractors & equipment?
@anonytube1679
@anonytube1679 4 года назад
Will never happen. India rather has a name for sh*tting on the street.
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 4 года назад
Bridgeport. The ultimate. Expensive but they’re amazing.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 года назад
No argument from me!
@casimircreer2295
@casimircreer2295 4 года назад
I've gone for the Faithful No.7 jointer in the UK. £48 including delivery. Let's see how it holds up.
@Exiledk
@Exiledk 2 года назад
They also produce planes for Axminster, UK.
@jeffhanna763
@jeffhanna763 5 лет назад
It's a common misconception that the side has to be perfectly square with the sole to shoot on a shooting board. Simply make a lateral adjustment to the iron to make it square. Even if the sole is square you will need to make some test cuts to make sure the iron is adjusted so that it produces square cuts.
@mildyproductive9726
@mildyproductive9726 4 года назад
This only works for very small adjustments and for very thin boards. When you laterally adjust, the blade is no longer square to the sole. It will protrude farther out of the mouth of the plane on one end than the other. If the edge of the board is high in this spot, the cut may be too deep, and the plane might jam or the board might chowder/tear. So for very slightly out-of-square plane, used on 3/4" board, it might work ok. But it might not.
@cipherxen2
@cipherxen2 5 лет назад
Oh! That plane. Wrong channel.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
HA!
@cipherxen2
@cipherxen2 5 лет назад
@@RexKrueger 😀
@iammustafa777
@iammustafa777 5 лет назад
And today 15th August is the Independence day of India.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
Happy Independence Day India!!!
@iammustafa777
@iammustafa777 5 лет назад
Thanks Rex and as always, love your videos and your humor. Its always a delight to watch you create something valuable out of nothing. Thanks once again.
@markdomansky7046
@markdomansky7046 5 лет назад
Kobalt has a 10" plane for $35. It would be great to get a follow up comparison of something available in the local home improvement store.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
Let's just skip it: these planes are better and only cost a little more.
@akesq01
@akesq01 5 лет назад
Thanks, Rex!
@matthewcarpenter4716
@matthewcarpenter4716 5 лет назад
I want a Rex Krueger hoodie for Christmas! I'm gonna tell my wife!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
You're very kind!
@adiyogi453
@adiyogi453 4 года назад
We are already making quality products. Love from India ❤️😍
@karthickb1973
@karthickb1973 4 года назад
Are you referring to any specific ones
@TheBearGrylz
@TheBearGrylz 4 года назад
HEY! I just wanted to tell you that I successfully tuned a cheap GREATNECK 9” hand plane. I love your videos and have learned many things. I know that you didn’t really like this plane, but I spent about three hours honing it and fixing that garbage chromed chip breaker. It works like a champ now! Def one of my finest shaving planes at the moment. Just wanted to let you know that it is in fact possible. I solved the adjustment issue by resetting the chip breaker to the iron. Also ground the play off of the chip breaker threaded hole. Much love Rex. Thank you for all of your tips.
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 4 года назад
Humans are now ANTISOCIAL. 4 months and nobody commented. Most people never even see comments anymore cause the smart TV doesn’t allow it. Go back to ballroom dancing cause everyone here is scum!
@garyoa1
@garyoa1 3 года назад
India has been making them for a while. A lot of the record planes are now made there. In the states, you probably never heard of record. But in europe, if you have a choice between record and stanley, you'll probably pick the record.
@classydays43
@classydays43 2 года назад
I bought an Anant block plane that was made in India about a year ago. It was poorly finished and needed a bit of TLC to get it working properly. Fortunately the body is very thick so honing the faces and reshaping the adjusters didn't compromise the structure. Now it's beautiful and should last me forever.
@CandidZulu
@CandidZulu 5 месяцев назад
Soba, makes metal working tools also that have a somewhat decent reputation. However, my first plane was an Indian plane made by Anant. It put me off woodworking for more than two decades. I just could not learn to plane with it!
@mikethompson6713
@mikethompson6713 5 лет назад
My go to plane is a McIntosh and Heather Cleveland, Oh. Don’t know much about it 😁👍
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 5 лет назад
Never even heard of that one and I LIVE in Cleveland!
@mikethompson6713
@mikethompson6713 5 лет назад
Rex Krueger It’s the name on the blade. Old plane I got at an auction. It has a serrated bottom.
@Xonem1
@Xonem1 4 года назад
Try the truper, is a mexican hand planer, some version were made in mexico.
@robohippy
@robohippy Год назад
I bought a little blue Stanley #4 plane for $8.. It was one of those that did not 'adjust' well go lighter and/or deeper cuts. So, I tinkered with it, a lot. Over a couple of months of trying to figure it out, I found the culprit. First, I popped out the pins holding the yoke for advance/retreat, and the side to side lever. Then I took the main surface of the frog over to the abrasives on my table saw bed. It was '''WAY" out of whack, so I ground it flat. Put back in, and pretty much the same thing. I then resurfaced the part where the frog sits on the plane. Again, a little bit better, but still not good. I then determined that the mating surface on the plane body had a crown to it, as in convex surface. I used some 80 grit on a flat piece of wood with double sticky tape, about 2 inches wide by 12 or so long. I couldn't fit a file in there because of the raised spot on the back of the plane body for seating the handle. I put a riser block on the other end to keep my abrasive surface flat/parallel to the bottom of the frog. Eventually, I made that part flat, and now the plane iron moves easily, the way you want them to do.
@adrian_barreto
@adrian_barreto 3 года назад
Watching this as the 3rd hour of 9th august 2021 unfolds.. Really amusing to listen to the explaination.. But reason i gate crashed here was to find out and listen to another history lesson on woodworking tools and wood related info..
@Claud_AdderHive
@Claud_AdderHive 5 лет назад
I bought an old indian hand plane for 25$ on a flea market that looks very similar to these. After a bit of sharpening, cleaning up the rust, and very little flattening it works wonders
@skevincampbell
@skevincampbell 3 года назад
Hey Rex, I saw you flatten that plane in what seemed like a few minutes. I'm working on an old Stanley Defiance #4 and it is taking forever.
@mathewdorsch6398
@mathewdorsch6398 5 лет назад
I'm lucky to live in the same town as Grizzly HQ. No shipping costs!
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 4 года назад
You failed to be social.
@davidhull2060
@davidhull2060 6 месяцев назад
I've just bought a Faithfull no3...it was really inexpensive at £13 U.K., but it really needs a lot of fettling to get it to cut. The main problem is the blade...when the chipbreaker is tight enough to hold in place, the blade is bowed away from the frog. I replaced the blade with a UK manufactured Stanley, but the problem persists. It's gonna take a lot of effort to make it work, and I think tgis could put a lot of beginners off.
@SirAngusSteele
@SirAngusSteele 2 года назад
As of right now 3/25/22, Draper is the cheapest on The Amazon at $38.77. Thanks, Rex!
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