@@azmountainroyz7101 unfortunately I don't know how you can make anyone care about something they don't care about. Until they are in those shoes it's out of sight out of mind.
@@CyFi6 it already is affecting our wallets, how much more are they going need next year to subsidize private prisons? Or to get an override to pay into the prison systems with no real effect?
I am a firefighter/paramedic, and we will NEVER, ever go into a scene that is not safe. regardless of how badly we want to rush in and help those in need, if the scene is not secure, we will wait until it is.
Yeah, same. Though I work for a private company. But like, if a cop tells me that the area was safe and secured, I am still dragging him along with me. Provider safety first.
I know exactly why the AED machine malfunctioned. No one was checking that the battery life was good every day! I cannot count how many I found dead all around Columbus OH as a security lieutenant. It was something I took very seriously as it can save lives... if the security company is not properly doing its job then it could be liable in courts.
@@tun-tunninc.6492 No, just a nerd with lists and a keen eye to protect everyone within my building... even rude people such as yourself. Bless your heart.
There should also be a Bio-Med company coming in testing and certifying, at least once per year according to JCAHO protocols for prison's, all medical devices. This families attorney isn't going to wait a year for a FOIA request!
@@philliplewis3754 And I am telling you the chances of that AED machine being properly charged without someone testing it every day is as good a bet as 20 yr old gas and 3 dead spark plugs... Oh, I am sure they have it on their yearly checklist, I would love to see how many actual visits did not result in a dead battery over the past... 5 years. Ever have the lights go out, pick up the mini light and battery mom handed you 4 christmas' ago and you look at in the moonlight only to recognize old acid crust and a dead battery just when you need it cause your 20 yr old self never bought them and checked every flashlight in the house every 6 month like trusty mom and dad? Same premise, more important machine. Once it is onsite the security is supposed to check its battery every morning and make sure it is with enough charge to give multiple shocks. If not, they bring a replacement within 6 hours out to the site. I am just stating what is common with those machines and irresponsible employees who are already shorthanded.
The responsibility primarily falls back on the inept legislators who--as staff resigned and resigned--took no action to up the pay to keep them. We took a 2.5% pay cut around 2009 and didn't get a raise for about NINE years!!!!
That is why people aren't signing up to work there. I worked for the DOC in NYC and in no way would we accept a pay cut for any reason. I wish all the staff now would resign they would raise pay, give more benefits and increase the work force quick fast and in a hurry.
As a paramedic, we are not allowed to go into some kinds of situations, like a burning building, this seems no different. If we go in and get killed, who is going to be able save the injured we came to help? They are absolutely right to not enter a Wild West style run prison. The Warden should be ashamed as hell, or the state.
Totally understand that, we responded to a shooting just the other day and struggled to get to the patient because the shooter was still on foot. BSI Scene safety first 🧤🥽🦺
@@dodgecityrecords4685 yes, I did it 3 days ago, we're not allowed to enter unsafe scenes, that's how you end up with 3 patients instead of 1. It takes 1 ambulance to help one patient, if the 2 crew members get hurt you now have 3 patients which requires 3 more ambulances, so an incident starting off with 1 patient has now turned into a mass casualty incident requiring unavailable recourses. My county has only 2 ambulances due to staffing issues. The most important thing that is taught in EMS and Fire training is scene safety, the scenarios we have to do to pass the class make us determine scene safety before you do anything else, if you skip it you instantly fail the station. If you keep doing that you end up failing the class and don't get certified. On our call the other day we were ordered to stay off scene until the shooter was found. I am not going on scene and getting shot too because a few neighbors got into a stupid argument, I don't have a weapon on me, I don't have a bullet proof vest, my wife and son however do have a husband/father still.
@@aydenburris8631 pretty much follow the rules or don't get the job...what if you hear 👂 someone screaming for help but the scene isn't safe yet? Do you still wait or try and save their life?
Always a good idea but this guy didn't deserve to die over a battery charge. It's insane that he was there for 8 years over it to begin with. These prisons have too much funding to not have any order to show for it. Our tax money is clearly being pocketed by the executives.
Those convicted incarcerated criminals are absolutely dangerous and have nothing to lose. I would refuse to go in there without proper security escort!
They literally don't do much. They give us the minimum care and are always pissed because they hate their job. One time in 2006 I was in Eyeman Rynning unit and thought I was gonna die. It took them forever to get there and they gave me a 800mg ibuprofen and that was it. I needed to go to the hospital for chest pain and I felt like I was gonna pass out. My celly stayed up with me all night making sure I would be good.
I did corrections in Florida. It is amazing how everyone thinks just upping the pay will get staff in the door. Pay is part of the problem but the bigger problem is no support by administration and inmates having too much freedom
This is sickening. Our law enforcement,first responders, municipal employees SHOULD NOT BE PUT AT RISK. But NEITHER SHOULD INMATES. We need to do whatever it takes to keep people alive (including people we don't want on the streets)
@Brenndan Deffendall ; If you are in prison I don't particularly care about your so call constitutional rights. You already broke the law and have anti-social tendencies, they chose that ,not me I should not be concerned about them
I know how those paramedics feel. I use to respond to a prison in our county and it would get rough sometimes. We have been attacked. The policy changed that we only picked up from medical clinic in the prison.
I worked in my local county jails for 20 years here in Phoenix, if we had any medical emergency all inmates were locked down at least till the incident was cleared by our shift commander or the Captain, it was called Security Override!!! We never had our local paramedics attacked, we secured the area involved period!!!
Wow! Very messed up. And people can run their mouths "they're criminals, who cares?" and stuff like that but alot of people have family in prison and even family that work in prison so this is a terrible thing right here
That facility has doors and locks that routinely malfunction. So the inmates aren't the only ones at risk. The staff is also at risk here. No wonder no one wants to work there.
Ambulance crews are not **SUPPOSED** to go into the secure areas of a prison. They go to the infirmary, and that's as far as they're expected or supposed to go. It's up to prison staff to get the offender to the infirmary.
@@robertblack1315 I worked 15 years in corrections... emergency service crews were *NOT* allowed inside the main building, even if they got inside the fence. They were limited to the infirmary, period. Fire crews could hose down anything they wanted - not that there are hydrants accessible within the fence - from the back dock or from beyond the fence. We officers had to fight fires that were started in the housing areas. That was... fun, actually. The offenders got more hosing down than the fire did.
Our paramedics responded directly to the housing unit after the inmates were locked down and an officer checked all cell doors to ensure they were locked. We also informed our inmates it is a felony to attack medical personnel. in the 20 years I was working the jails a paramedic crew was never attacked!!
I worked in prisons for 10 years. I don’t remember outside EMS ever coming inside. OUR medical staff took them outside to be picked up in the sally port
This is not the time to set people free because of understaffing. It's time for Arizona to pay whatever it takes financially to get the staffing in place. The people of Arizona lost something tangible to the crime, they've paid the police to catch criminals, they already paid for the prosecution and more than likely the defense as well, they paid jurors to sit on trials, judges for sentencing and the prison to house the convicted. To let people go or go early at the end stage of justice is a slap in the face to every taxpayer and everyone inside Arizona's borders affected by crime!
Oh how sad the criminals are vulnerable. Lol are you kidding me? Gee, I wonder how the victims of the crimes they committed feel. And no, I have no sympathy
@@CyFi6 lol been there, 5 years in adoc. To be clear I wasn't a thief and I did not assault anyone. That's all you need to know. But I expected nothing from anyone, I did my time and now I stay away from well certain people. But I didn't play victim, I worked for a better life and now I have it with no help from the government , just family and good friends.
Nah, police are constantly scared about everything. "I shot an unarmed man because I feared for my life!" Meanwhile US Marines have to follow strict rules of engagement on a battlefield.
If the scene cannot be secured, I am not going in. It's obvious this high security prison has issues. There is a high security prison in the area that I work as a paramedic. If my safety cannot be guaranteed I will not go in.
Bravo. Stand your ground. There's no legitimate excuse for not maintaining safety for any employee. State governments can spend zillions fighting real victim lawsuits, but deliberately refuse to spend time and money on safety and genuine security. 👍
Sounds like if you won’t do your job as a medical professional you should quit. Keep seeing stories where paramedics won’t do their jobs. It’s really sad
I’d say most prisons across the country are short staffed. I was both an LEO and a CO and it’s a hell of a lot easier to put them in than it is to keep them in. The CO’s make welfare wages in most states and they wonder why they can’t keep them. The prison I worked in was a good ole boys club ran by families and was a miserable place. Salary was a around 1100.00 a month. I can’t believe I even walked through the door for that.
@@michaelperkins4924 I said most states. Obviously you lack the ability to comprehend what was written and that’s a personal problem you’ll have to learn to deal with. Tell us about your vast experience in the criminal justice system.
@Broc Diamond, did you watch the video? Sarah Mendoza, spokesperson for the emt, fire fighters said part of it is because of news reports stating that the locks don't always work. This is a high security facility
No savings taxes here, bill still goes up to fund staff that does not have to show up to work... Eventually the prison system will stop locking people up because of high inflation and low profit margins...
Look, people want to act like subhumans and when the consequences of that turn out to be that the rest of us who have laws we did follow and are struggling worst than them cause all our bills aren't being paid by taxes . They want to get upset cause we forget about them. Consequences baby
Just like Cna work.The jobs are dangerous (depending on your pt diagnosis),short staffed always and the pay isn't worth it. Also if you're not being protected or your job/license is on the line,is it really worth it???
When people are resistant to funding law enforcement and prisons for whatever reason this is the effect. Less safe prisons and communities. You can’t defund this stuff and expect no consequence. In fact these officers most likely need a massive pay increase to retain their staff as well as to draw quality candidates.
Unbelievable. All that pay and they refuse to enter the prison!? Paramedics are so overpaid it's ridiculous. The inmates of this country deserve much better than this.
@@hiltonlive32grnrngr those inmates are usually the easiest to extort and fukc in the mouth. Especially the young white ones. Without guns, white guy's turn into submissive females 👍
Lol in due time you’ll surely know, wish you could say that to my face then we’ll see if I’ll got feelings for you as my victim 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 trust me you don’t want to know 😒
Lol 😂 wish I could get a hold of you to make you my victim then I’ll check if I got feelings when am thru with you lol love ur life ok because trust me I’m a suck mf too not only an idiot
Oh an love ur family too dnt put their safety a side because you might frighten to see me show up on their porch lol I do most of my life behind them walls trust me I got nothing to loose I love being locked up when am ready I give zero fk about nothing plus so far I’ve been true 9 prison already at anytime I can go ten so love ur mf live real talk 😒
As a German paramedic working in an area with 2 prisons (1 max sec.) it is normal for us to go into cell blocks and other facilities within the prison. We always get escorted by at least 3 officers and no other prisoners will be within the area or locked up when we arrive. It blows my mind to let prison be so run down that nearly no guards are left... x.x
They won’t make sure they have enough officers to run the prison-but they will guarantee every single prisoner has access to the exact same luxuries you and I have, free of charge. Why don’t we focus on priorities instead of social justice initiatives.
thats bullshit, all those officers and all those paramedics should be fired. not only fired but also barred from obtaining finger print clearance cards
Till they stop using these prisons as a cash cow, nothing will change, the system is designed to employ people and not to Rehabilitate, to keep their numbers high is a victory 😢.
We go into the county prison all the time...with damn near 2000 inmates and about 50 guards at night. Mostly we go to medical, but we have gone into blocks and cells at times. If there were not enough guards, I wouldn't go in either. The order of priority for safety is me, followed by us, followed by everyone else.
The paramedics wouldn't have a job if it weren't for citizens whether that be inmates or guards so wtf are they still getting paid for its b.s you already have to worry about the dangers of prison but now they have no help to save them they should be fired
That place is already over staff lying to the public that short staff bullshit they might working be in furloughs they just want in army treat the inmates with some respect you don't have to worry about getting stabbed because you're too afraid to walk the yard alone I've been locked up in the state prison in Massachusetts and let me tell you what correction officer could run the whole place because he's respected and it's not my fear it's my mutual respect
Huh. Seems like there should be some kind of oath when entering life saving services. Something about putting the good of your patients before your own or something.....oh wait! There is.
We are trained from day one to not go into a dangerous scene until it’s secure and a chronically understaffed prison with a history of prison riots sounds like a dangerous scene.
This is why I hate the media!! Y’all make it sound like we didn’t go in because we didn’t want to i want to see y’all go in!! And report about it and see how y’all like it!! WE WILL NEVER GO IN IF THE SCENE IS NOT SAFE easy for y’all to report on it behind them desk
Some are paid off so some staff got to watch around and some like there job and some just idk why they there but to do harm if dangerous criminals got put down then or make there family pay for it I bet better society vs making tax payers pay that follow laws rules
