AMC Renault Jeep Sales Training 1983 

oh horse feathers

Did you try the lasagna? That one's my favorite.

I was just about to mention buying a mattress. My wife an I bought a new mattress a few weeks ago. I went into a mattress store an the saleslady made a beeline to me an immediately started badgering me being really pushy I couldn't get out of that store fast enough.

Buying a car is my most favourite thing to do in life! 😂

@@dylanrampage9360 It' no wonder why people buy them at costco/sams/bj's ect.

I disagree. The only negative car-buying experience I’ve ever had was at not one, but two Lexus dealerships. The one guy was talking at me through my CLOSED window as I was driving off the lot.

The Grand Wagonner is an icon. It's a cultural landmark that should be on a postage stamp and remain in our minds forever, like the Coke bottle.

Especially for that piece of crap car lol

That salesman was a REAL asshole!!!!!! If I treated a customer like that, I would expect to be fired right then & there!!!!

If you buy a new car these days you are a dummy.

@@landyachtfan79ok karen

They still say that. Just phrase it differently.

Great info! He's still alive btw.

rear bumpers are required by law.

@@marks6663 Maybe currently in your state - but I sold pickups years ago with rear bumper deletes to customers planning on adding either custom ranch hand bumpers or a large slide in bed camper.

@@Thomas63r2 ...required by federal safety regulations.

@@ficklefingeroffate Not on trucks, or at least not when I was in sales - I'm retired now. There was a time when vehicles could be bought with a radio delete or an antenna delete or a rear view mirror delete or a heater delete. Decades before my sales career there was a time when cars were only required to have one tail light.

Not always...

Chrysler wasn't knocking on the door until the President of Renault was murdered.

The definition of class LOL!!!!

Lol!Fuego's likely all in the junkyard by mid 90's

I had a Le Car, piece of junk 👍

I remember the commercials for those back then. There was one that the motor was in the back, but I can't remember if they were Renault.

@@argent2020 That was the Renault with the engine in the back.I remember them well.

Loved the Renault Alliance GTA convertibles. Cool looking little cars.

Yeah you definitely had a lot more choice of exterior and interior colors, seating types and interior appointments that you don't have now. Back then and before everything was optional, down to the glove box light and cigarette lighter.

So everyone should be riding a bicycle like communist China in the 1970s. OK. Thanks to capitalism and having a credit line people can have modern conveniences in countries like America while they can still enjoy them. And yes, they'll be taken better care of when they are old than in all other governments who call themselves Socialist. Your hypocrisy is astounding.

You only have to overpay for that crap if you're dumb enough to be suckered into wasting your money on that stuff. If you know what you're doing the cars worth buying are out there and so much less expensive than anyone will tell you.

If it wasn’t for AMC in the 70s Jeep was going to be bought by some of the big 3 in the late 60s and probably be extinct because Jeep was not what it was in the late 80s

@@eraummenino3011 Interesting. I suppose I should be glad we still make Jeeps in Toledo.

@ChryslerMan Amiga 1084 Oh I'm sure.

Why? They have never had LOWER road test scores and reliability as they have now!

AMC Jeep Renault dealership was probably the worst place to work as a salesman at this time if you wanted to make sales. Just being truthful. It probably got a little better for awhile when the Alliance and XJ Cherokees showed up, but at this point… Le Cars? Yeah the kids are eating ramen noodles tonight.

I'll pass

@@aarond23 Me Too!!!!

Depends on the dealer’s reputation. Some of the AMC dealers became Jeep-Eagle and then CDJR. Most sales were repeat customers that bought AMC or Jeep.

It is a good thing for a Diesel engine not sure how it worked out on these

I wasn't familiar with the Alpine, but wow, what a great looking vehicle for back then, yes just including that in the lineup probably would have boosted sales across all models.

GM was not giving cars away in 1982/83. They still commanded approximately 55% of the US market share. Ford Motor Co had about 20%, Chrysler Corp had about 15%, AMC had about 5% and all of the imports had about 5%. GM was still the #1 auto producer in the world as well. Imports were not what they are now during the early 80s. Most Japanese brands were known to be reliable, but had severe body corrosion issues. None of those import brands were assembled in the US at that time like they are now.

With those old, tired designs and that old Kenosha plant? Can't see any alternate world where that would have worked for much longer than it did.

When Mercedes owned Chrysler they did an engine quality study. The Kenosha built 4.0 came in first place. I hear it really pissed the Germans off, even though it was their company.

@@ericchristensen4107 I was referring to the Kenosha lakefront and main body plants. Those were ancient plants that Chrysler closed in 1989.

That’s true although they were ranked first I believe in quality with the M body when closed. Too bad the money invested in the Canada plant wasn’t used in Kenosha.

@@ericchristensen4107 The main problem is they had two plants several miles away and they physically trucking bodies from one to the other.

The days of "brick and mortar" dealers are just about over. I bought a 2020 Chevy Blazer (used) a month ago using "face time" on my Apple iphone 12. It was a totally "digital" business transaction with "Carousel On-line" located in Hopkins, MN. It was the MOST satisfying buying experience I have ever had. The entire experience, including valuing my trade-in was done without meeting anybody in person. The Blazer was shipped to Thorp, WI, (150mi), trade-in was picked up for only $399 shipping. The Blazer had 51000 on the clock, but looked liked it came off the showroom floor. Just an AWESOME experience! This is the future of car buying/selling.

I mean yeah most people are going to buy something that meets their utilitarian needs more than "style"

Was that on Coney Island Ave?

@@alb12345672 Flatbush Ave a few min from Kings Plaza

First he says "Don't be a dummy." Then he says "At least you're not pressured", seeming to mean "at this dealership".

He's a potty-mouth, too.

I haven't seen a Renault of any kind in the United States in forever.

Because they're dust

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That's 300 to 600 dollars in 2024 money.

You forgot to adjust for inflation.

Well if you google 1984 AMC Concord you will find photos of clay mock ups of proposed facelifted sedans and coupes that were seriously considered for production

The reason the concord went away was because people weren't buying them .

@@HowardJrFord it was actually because they had the Renault Alliance and Encore to replace them in their market segment.

@@benscovil they also weren't selling . They had become seriously outdated by the late 70's . They were based on a body shell and chassis that dated back to 1970 . GM , Ford and Chrysler , as well as the Japanese were bringing out models that were more space efficient , were lighter , had FWD , got better fuel economy , had better handling due to rack and pinion steering and modern strut suspension , the list goes on . The concord was a dinosaur and it was lucky to be around as long as it was .

@@HowardJrFord they were immensely popular when they came out in 1978 as an updated Hornet. AMC got plenty of what they needed out of them for the 6 years they were in production. Eagle used the same unibody another 5 years after the discontinuation of Concord and it sold just fine.

Boss move!

That was quite the negotiation 😂😂😂😂😂. Endless back and forth

absolutely! Strictly business while enjoying a smoke. I love that the customer lit the manager's cigarette. Both mean business and are serious. One on One negotiating and interaction. A lost art.

This was after the landmark 1964 Surgeon General's report on the dangers of smoking but before society turned against secondhand smoke. All that secondhand smoke is one reason that the old days weren't always good.

Love it!!! Real life negotiations that salesman was a guy I’d gladly buy a car from.

The salesman at 1:14:39 may have been an a--hole, but the car buyer in that exchange kicked a$$. The car buyer was solid as a rock and didn't cave in, while the salesman keeps getting frustrated; look how many cigarettes he smokes. Finally, after almost ten minutes, the salesman asks the buyer for his price, which he eventually gets. The buyer was a pro.

Yes, but @@krell56......................at 1:17:20........."Buy the car, buy the car. Don't be a dummy, buy the car"...............REALLY?!!!!!! If I owned a car dealer, & heard one of my salespeople treating a customer like THAT, I would be sending that customer to deal with another salesperson, & that salesperson would be in my office getting reprimanded, & then told to pack their shit & get out.....they're fired. Yes, they DO have to make something. It's a business, after all, but their FIRST responsibility is making sure that customer doesn't end up living in a box on the highway because the price of the car was more than they could possibly afford.

@@landyachtfan79 very well said

I forgot to add this part in. Nobody gave a rats ass about anything BUT the price. Cause every dealership has the same inventory, the same base rates, the same financing ( Toyota Motor Credit union ) and pretty much every "new" car was going to be breakdown free for the first 80k... Litterally nobody cared about safety, or practicality. Except when it came to third row seats. Everyone wanted to try and get a mid tier 4 Runner with a third row that only existed on paper as far as management was concerned.

A salesman telling a lie ? You're kidding , right ? Bahaha

Nowadays, the pennies on the dollar trade in value of your car, holdback and kickback from the financing and pushy hardsell extended warranty make up for it.

When I sold cars 20 years ago for Toyota sometimes we would be below profit margin and we either made money on the backend or sometimes they had a special. If you sold a certain amount of cars in a month you would get a bonus example sell five Toyota Prius and get a $2000 bonus, etc.. selling cars now must be a breeze. Everything sounds for MSRP or above but 20 years ago you would have people go to 10 different dealers to save a nickel. I sold cars plenty of times just a few hundred dollars over what we paid now it would be unheard of but not 20 years ago. I only lasted one year. I did not like the cutthroat or the hours having to work. Plus it would’ve been easier for me to sell something. I actually liked and drove like selling Mercedes or BMW or a car brand I liked, but I never cared for Toyota much. I know they are reliable cars, but they mostly ugly in those are the people penny pinching to see if they could save a nickel somewhere. funny thing is years later I had an offer to work for Mercedes the dealership that I bought my last eight or nine Mercedes from I turned it down, because I actually had a few businesses of my own. FYI just sold my last Benz GLE AMG coupe for my new hellcat. Going to have fun with this for a few years than store it. Will def go back to Benz as my daily driver after I’m done with my latest toy. And if you’re interested, my Durango hellcat will be going through a lot of changes in the next six weeks. Go to my RU-vid channel and check it out. I have AI design doing the work,the best in the business just check out there RU-vid channel.

Kinda tough to do when dealers have a 108 day supply of RAM pickups and are laying off 3500 workers.

Some cameras were big; some not. And the audio phenomena that you say _would_ happen _did_ happen. Also, a lapel mic doesn't have to be unidirectional and quiet. It's also not hard to install hidden microphones near desks and in cars.

They used multiple hidden mics...

Yes, exactly! This is what laserdisc technology looks like when it gets ripped to RU-vid. Amazing to think of AMC dealers with laserdiscs in the back. Where did you learn to fly?

FYI, LaserDisc was a HUGE step-up from poopy 240line video tape (remember VCRs?)

His name is Sam Groom.

​@@benscovil Sam Groom was one of the best things American Motors had going for them at that time. I always enjoyed him as their spokesman in the "Tough Americans" commercials. He came across as simple, straight forward, direct, and honest with a bit of a rugged nature. Exactly what AMC and Jeep should've been going for. He did a good job for them, and it wasn't always an easy sell.

@@atarigames I have spoken to him on the phone as well. He's a true gentleman, now 84 years old. He genuinely loved working for American Motors.

Yes, and some dealers get paid for just running a credit app .

Nope, no ford engine nor did they rust that quickly. Try again....

It's a small price to pay to live in a world we recognize.

Watching that scene actually gave me the urge to light up a "Camel"........

"$8795 is the today price. $8895 is the tomorrow price. Give me $100. Okay, give me $20." 😂

Gotta admit I'm impressed. he haggled it from $9500 to $8700, that's 9% off!

My favorite part of this video! Lol I'd love to see more videos of him and wonder what ever happened to him?

@@operator91210 that's okay the dealer got him for 16.9% APR 🤣

@@benscovil I bet they were extra nice in the F&I department