AMD AVC vs HEVC vs AV1 - Which Recording/Streaming Codec should you use?

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Hello Dear Viewers :D
Today, with a requested video testing the video quality of 3 codecs:
- AVC (Advanced Video Coding)
- HEVC (High Efficiency Video Coding)
- AV1 (AOMedia Video 1)
The 3 codecs are tested at 1080P and 1440P, at 2, 5, 10 & 15 Mbps (video bitrate).
00:00 - Intro
01:27 - Recording & Streaming Video Quality
05:10 - AVC vs HEVC vs AV1 - 1080P - 2Mbps
06:15 - AVC vs HEVC vs AV1 - 1080P - 5Mbps
07:44 - AVC vs HEVC vs AV1 - 1080P - 10Mbps
08:45 - AVC vs HEVC vs AV1 - 1080P - 15Mbps
10:00 - AVC vs HEVC vs AV1 - 1440P - 2Mbps
11:13 - AVC vs HEVC vs AV1 - 1440P - 5Mbps
12:11 - AVC vs HEVC vs AV1 - 1440P - 10Mbps
13:15 - AVC vs HEVC vs AV1 - 1440P - 15Mbps
14:48 - Conclusion
16:42 - Channel Members
17:03 - More Videos
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MB: Asus X570 Strix-F
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GPU: AMD RADEON RX 7900XTX @2900/2700 MHz
SSD: 256Gb Kingston Nvme + 1Tb Crucial SSD
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MB: MSI Z490 Tomahawk
RAM: 4x8Gb Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3600 MHz CL16)
GPU: AMD RADEON RX 7900XTX @2900/2700 MHz
SSD: Kingston V300 120Gb
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2Tb 7200 rpm
PSU: Seasonic SIII 650W Bronze
CASE: Aerocool One Frost Edition
INTEL 12th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
MB: Gigabyte Z690 Aorus ELITE (DDR4)
RAM: 4x8Gb Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3600 MHz CL16)
GPU: AMD RADEON RX 7900XTX @2900/2700 MHz
SSD: Kingston A400 240Gb + WD SN570 500Gb
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2Tb 7200 rpm
PSU: Aerocool X-Strike 800W 80+ Silver Semi Modular
CASE: Phanteks Eclipse P400A
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CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
MB: MSI X670E Carbon Wifi
RAM: 2x16Gb Trident Z 6000MHz CL36
GPU: AMD RADEON RX 7900XTX @2900/2700 MHz
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@AncientGameplays Год назад

This was a very requested video for several months, so it would make me happy if you could hit like to help this video get more and more recommended!

@bjjm9772 Год назад

Quick question! Do you recommend to use the PRO drivers due to their "Stability" or stick into the latest Adrenalin drivers?

@adammartin4906 Год назад

You know I'm always hitting that Like button not sure why they can't just give it a smash before they watch your videos are Awesome!!!!🤪

@MoChuang343 Год назад

Thank you for making this comparison. Everything I have seen thus far only compared AVC with AV1 and that's a night and day difference. I was looking to see how much better AV1 is compared to HEVC, bc I use HEVC for most of my video work. I am glad to see that AV1 is pushing the quality forward and we're only on 1st gen HW encoders for AV1 so hopefully it'll keep getting better over time.

@MoChuang343 Год назад

Question for you though. Do you think the AV1 cards are worth it at this point? Like you said AV1 is only available on RTX 4000, RX 7000, and Arc. And beside the Arc A380, which sucks at gaming, all those cards are really expensive. Given that most people have access to HEVC on all Ryzen iGPUs, RX 400 and newer, GTX 1000 and newer, and Intel iGPU 7th gen and newer, should they just use the HEVC they already have? If you stream to Twitch you are stuck with AVC regardless, and if you stream to RU-vid you can use HEVC on your older GPU and get pretty close to the quality of AV1 with slightly more bitrate. So at the end of the day is it worth it? Maybe when Twitch makes the jump to AV1 it will...

@Harvester88 Год назад

I am personally using AV1 on RU-vid for streaming but for recording purposes I went HEVC. AV1 files were difficult to edit in resolve for me. I love the file size of AV1 recordings though. I could do lossless and get smaller files than HEVC and still great quality.

@Tiiroj 5 месяцев назад

How are you using av1 for streaming? There is no any option to choose av1. Thanks.

@stuupyisntreal 5 месяцев назад

@@Tiiroj your gpu might not have the encoder. which gpu are you using

@noname-vw1oi 2 месяца назад

Whats your gpu and cpu?

@lazypilotindonesian Месяц назад

OBS y can check on settings

@Atilolzz Год назад

I really apprectiate the enormous amounts of work you put into these videos! They are genuinely helpful!

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Thank you! Glad to know

@ivanbrkic99 Год назад

That cat at the start always cracks me up, great video as always Fabio!

@TheRealClaylex Год назад

It still boggles me YT and even other newer streaming platforms are STILL ahead of what Twitchs streaming capabilities can do.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Twitch should have already died, they refuse to move forward, ban people for nothing, don't care about their "special girls" breaking the rules, etc etc

@SaiTatter Год назад

So much truth in a few words ❤

@ColdFear6666 Год назад

@@AncientGameplays Damn, no one ever was this right, like you now!

@TheRealClaylex Год назад

@@AncientGameplays They make 1 step forward 2 steps back dumb asf decisions bro.

@TheRealClaylex Год назад

@@SaiTatter Mhmm. Like dudes, we have women literally having sex on their stream and yet they're not fully banned from the platform.

@JegsTV Год назад

just the video im actually researching on. thanks bro.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Great to see I helped

@Nick85 3 месяца назад

Thank you SO MUCH for this video. For my use case, I have a decent gaming PC on my home network and sometimes I like to stream games from it to another PC. It is not an easy question to ask which codec is best for this or how to set this up for the best quality with the least amount of money spent. Understanding the differences between encoding and decoding and the technologies involved helps with me selecting a good enough GPU to get the highest quality out of my streaming PC without overspending. This video was extremely helpful for that pursuit.

@AncientGameplays 3 месяца назад

Glad I could help

@MERF615 Год назад

Thank you so much. You make very good and useful content! I love to plunge headlong into your creativity!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Thank you very much as well

@daniboy_tv 5 месяцев назад

Late to the party, but I sincerely thank you for all your continued efforts for all of us using AMD! Really has saved me a lot of work and headaches

@AncientGameplays 5 месяцев назад

Thankyou as well for watching and commenting :D

@maestro9615 Год назад

Everybody give this man a thumbs up. Show some love. This is my favorite pc game related channel.

@wolfreeew Год назад

Hey fabio, nice video much appreciated , just letting you know that in the 1440p test the youtube timeline says 1080p.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Fixed, thank you

@SeumaLP Месяц назад

Hello! Thank you for the work you have done here. This is finally a comparison, which also points the details in clarity etc. and not, like various other videos, just straight side by side comparison without any commenting at all. I like how AV1 is doing but also sad, that it isn't available on twitch as for now. Hopefully they will add this. Back to your video. Again a good comparison and easy to follow along. I wasn't using AV1 for recording because the most Videos only showed settings and such for either x264 or h264. I now have a better view on quality changes for the encoder thanks to your video! Much appreciated.

@AncientGameplays Месяц назад

Thanks, twitch was supposedly adding av1 very soon

@ellypsis603 Год назад

Thanks for this Fabio 😄

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Thank you as well

@Malefikar Год назад

I'm not a streamer, but sometimes i record some games for my friends. This video can be very helpful, thanks!

@theguycanfly98 Год назад

He has an older recording tutorial for and cards, but he did say it quickly in this video too, that if you're just going to record you should probably double the streaming bit rate. Personally I use 40mbps for my cod clips on here and HEVC because I have a rx 5700xt and I think my clips look decently crispy

@Malefikar Год назад

@@theguycanfly98 thanks

@evilleader1991 Год назад

@@theguycanfly98 If you record @ 1440p60 I think the max bitrate on RU-vid is 32000 kbps, so I dont know if you would gain anything more in terms of visual clarity going higher. COrrect me if im wrong :)

@moustafa_1994 Год назад

Really good video thank you! but I didn't catch it (sorry f'ed up sleeping schedule lol), what GPU was used? and how does NVENC campare to AMD Encoder?

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Was the 7900xtx although it doesn't matter much. Nvenc is better at avc, but I believe the difference in hevc and av1 is barely noticiable

@moustafa_1994 Год назад

@@AncientGameplays wow thanks for the fast reply! don't you think this is an idea for future content?

@joeyzwappa1756 Год назад

First, haven't watched it yet but this is something i'm also interested in. Thank you will be watching now u got a like from me already.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Thank you as well

@debnadaebna9981 Год назад

Very informative! Thank you! There is one strange thing that got me confused about AV1 codec - I have a TV Box, Mecool KM6 Deluxe. It can use AV1 when streaming videos (through hdmi) and not only the picture is better but the performance is better too...

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Because it has a dedicated av1 decoder. Unless you need to use the cpu for av1, the performance will be around the same for all codecs

@debnadaebna9981 Год назад

@@AncientGameplays Wow nice.

@yarom-os9uf Год назад

yes finally a good comparison between them

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Thank you

@yarom-os9uf Год назад

@@AncientGameplays 😄

@jadadpe3873 Год назад

What do you think of the current streaming performance of the RDNA2 GPUs and how does it compare between Twitch and RU-vid? Specifically the 6950xt after the relatively recent driver updates etc.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Rdna2 gpus have hevc and avc+b frames

@Silent-1983 Год назад

Thank You!

@MysticMylesZ 6 месяцев назад

Do you know if AV1 will come to the AMD Radeon 500 series? Or is it only for graphics cards newer than 2018 I have a Radeon RX 550

@AncientGameplays 6 месяцев назад

Ofc not...av1 is recent and only on thr 7000 series a s nvidia 4000 series

@gapast3669 Год назад

Very helpfull video, i relised i was recording with AVC and thinking where was the issue with the quality...

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Great that I could help!

@Hjallapenos Год назад

Are there any performance differences with the different encoders? Does it change the fps when streaming, or only the quality of the stream?

@AncientGameplays Год назад

On the same card, the performance impact would be equal (almost zero), this was with the 7900XTX, although I always record using HEVC and the performance drop is almost unnoticiable, even at 50mbps

@Hjallapenos Год назад

@@AncientGameplays ok thanks! It's a shame that twitch doesn't support HEVC but I'll try to remember to use it next time I record something 😄

@anderseriksson7187 8 месяцев назад

Perfect, just what i was looking for. When can i stream in 1440p 15mb/sec to twitch?

@AncientGameplays 8 месяцев назад

Not yet sadly, Twitch is stuck in the past

@Bobalazs Год назад

av1 is clearly the future. currently its lacking support.

@JordonAM Год назад

Unfortunately for channels under 10K you get stuck with AVC transcoding from RU-vid. The only way you can force VP9 is if you upload or stream at 1440p. It's a strange rule and I wish that wasn't the case

@MoChuang343 Год назад

You can upscale to force the transcode

@JordonAM 11 месяцев назад

@@MoChuang343 Yes, hence where I said "The only way you can force VP9 is if you upload or stream at 1440p"

@MoChuang343 11 месяцев назад

@@JordonAM Idk why I phrased it like that...literally made no sense and added no value to what you already said...I mean to say you can use a 1440p stream key to force YT to upscale a 1080p stream from OBS to 1440p and give you vp9. Very helpful if you dont have the bandwidth for a 1440p stream yourself.

@maegnificant 7 месяцев назад

I don't know if this is something you're interested in, but I would love to see and hear your opinion on a comparison on streaming codecs for VR, like for the Quest 3 :)

@AncientGameplays 7 месяцев назад

Thanks, but the difference would be exactly the same. Av1 > Hevc > Avc

@maegnificant 7 месяцев назад

@@AncientGameplays okay

@Stameno Месяц назад

thank you

@abah.gaming84 4 месяца назад

Hey, any good recommendation for recording using 6600xt in 1080p? For now i use HEVC at 35k bitrate, then export with higher bitrate (50k) using H.265 encoder in Filmora 13 (2k upscale). Any recommendations? 😂

@Chakotay2222 Год назад

nice comparison, but why havent you show obs settings for AV1? Did you use B frame and what preset did you use quality or high quality?

@AncientGameplays Год назад

This is with AMD recording software, picked in between the 3 codecs. The AMD software equals more or less the Quality mode (usually a bit better). Also, B-Frames are just for the AVC codec

@manu-singh Год назад

will there be any way to encode av1 on 6700xt in the future ? sorry i dont exactly understand how these av1 encoders work?

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Those are made in the gpu, they're hardware, so no it wont. You have hevc though

@Venlorz 14 дней назад

having this codec, will this improve when remoting a PC from Steam Deck? I'm trying to build PC and not sure what to get GPU.

@pasha715 Год назад

very intersting video, for people who have worse internet this av1 is very good, ofc for the rest of people too :)

@heinzletzte.6385 Год назад

I use hevc for streaming on youtube and for recording because my GPU does not have an av1 encoder. I wish other platforms would support hevc too.

@ufo-nwgd 4 месяца назад

спасибо большое! отличная работа!

@GameLinerSaikou 10 месяцев назад

Lower Bitrate & Retain decent image quality. With HW encoding GPU you are set for a unique exp w/ AV1. tbh, I only use AV1 now XD. Kudos bro.

@GameLinerSaikou 10 месяцев назад

Hey AG! huge thanks to you again for your research on av1 in this vid. A technical and motivational one for me to finally start uploading AV1 2K gameplay series. ❤🎉 respec bro!😊

@hernanzambroni7181 Год назад

Hey Fabio which are your toughts about your first Asrock brand gpu 6950XT ?

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Love it so far

@MartyMcFlyTop1 Год назад

You're the BEST

@johnhughes9766 Год назад

Great video, what codec is nvenc ? As that’s what it come up with in obs for me

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Nvenc is just like amf. It can be nvenc avc, nvenc hevc or nvenc av1

@johnhughes9766 Год назад

@@AncientGameplays any idea what the 2080ti uses ? I know it’s not av1

@AncientGameplays Год назад

@@johnhughes9766 the 2080ti has at max HEVC

@CuervoVirtual Год назад

For streaming RU-vid: AMD H265 is amazing (nothing to envy Nvidia HEVC / NVENC). Twitch: AMD H264 (RDNA2 & 3) is It is decent but it does not reach the level Quality of Nvidia cards (slightly less than Pascal 😮, and much less than Turing & Ampere). AV1: I haven't tried av1 (I have an RX 6650 XT) but it should surprise you.

@evilleader1991 Год назад

Care you detail your settings? I am interested in starting to stream a little again, but it has been difficult after changing to an AMD card and only having limited amount of upload speed (20mbps).

@sovelissfiremane 8 месяцев назад

Would you say that using AV1 at 75Mbps is good enough for recording in 4k? Provided that one has powerful enough hardware, that is.

@AncientGameplays 8 месяцев назад

that's more than enough. I would say AV1 4K 50Mbps would be more than enough usually

@spindragonkiller 11 месяцев назад

This video content is AV1 quality (no pund intended) hehe😊 thanks a lot AG. I wonder if I were to record an AV1 "locally" at 1080p 60fps then export scaleup to 1440p 60fps, what would be your recommend Bitrate in this scenario?🎉

@AncientGameplays 11 месяцев назад

Higher bitrate is always better, if you can use it at higher levels, just do it :D

@spindragonkiller 11 месяцев назад

@AncientGameplays I will try to crank bitrate up. thanks AG! I think I may need to try ai upscaling as normal upscale resulted in a bit blurry from FHD to 2K and 4K. (alas,my monitor is only 1080P supported) keep up the great work, and I subbed!

@DeusGladiorum 6 месяцев назад

Interestingly, I would say the text clarity is actually better in HEVC than AV1, though maybe not leaps and bounds. If you pause around 8:53 - 8:54 and observe the white flag on the left, as it gets closer I can definitely read the word "festival" much more readily in the HEVC version before I can in the AV1 version. And I see similar superiority in HEVC when I try to read other text like the words at the bottom of the license plate at various times

@AncientGameplays 6 месяцев назад

It can vary depending on the image as well, and the RU-vid compression definitely doesn't help

@sassuki 4 месяца назад

Same here; HEVC looked ver~y similar to AV1 for me; sometimes HEVC was better, sometimes AV1, depending on the scene.

@SlashGunz7 Месяц назад

Bro! What do you think, what its better? I have an RX 6700XT. I have to know wich one is better, record screen (games) on OBS with H265 or AMD Adrenalin with he HEVC?? OBS is supposed to be very heavy and affects performance...

@TheZerosd Месяц назад

Oba is more CPU consuming while adrenaline is gpu

@user-bonk Год назад

Thanks.

@Munky332 8 месяцев назад

I'm more interested in how AV1 competes against HEVC in VR scenarios. Meta(Oculus)'s new Quest 3 is supposed to support AV1. The problem is that so few GPUs offer it an encode except the newest gen 4000/7000/Intel cards, and I'm already on a 6900xt so I'm not upgrading any time soon even if AV1 is better. My question is, how is the latency? I know that was one of the reasons that H.264 was preferred over H.265 for Quest 2 streaming for the longest time because the latency was just dogshit. how much performance hit is there doing CPU encode vs GPU encode with AV1? I mean, most of my cores aren't being used with the games I play, so if pushing AV1 via CPU is an option, and my other cores finally get used, is it really a big deal?

@AncientGameplays 8 месяцев назад

is AV1 is supported, the base line is "use it"

@Phat_trick910 8 месяцев назад

6000 support av1

@AncientGameplays 8 месяцев назад

@@Phat_trick910 no

@Munky332 7 месяцев назад

@@Phat_trick910 Partially Wrong, It supports DECODE of AV1, NOT ENCODE, which is necessary to send AV1 to either twitch, youtube, or in this case, to the Quest. AV1 ENCODE is only only supported by AMD 7000, Intel ARC, or Nvidia 4000

@TheVektast 7 месяцев назад

AV1 gpu encode is pretty bad and has much higher latency than Hevc.

@Dxeon2.0 3 месяца назад

Ok mas esse teste e feito pelo obs ? Estou pra adquirir uma GPU AMD e estou procurando informações dessas GPUs AMD 7000 usando o av1 no obs para live

@AncientGameplays 3 месяца назад

onde é não interessa para nada, o que interessa é o codec e qualidade. Vê este video também: O twitch vai começar a suportar AV1 finalmente penso. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MRPY8Ch5Gbs.html

@Jeyxx2003 Год назад

Really nice video, one more reason to buy the new 7000 series in the future although I think AMD was very late in getting their act together now I know why my graphics card has a decoder but no encoder I can see why the high CPU usage in OBS thank you !

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Yeah, its basically because your using software/CPU AV1. And AMD did not come late here, as only the newer gens of each brand have AV1 encoding

@MrBoombast64 Год назад

So now it´s the applications that is bad as they are not implementing the newest technologies... Great video as always mate!

@amirafshar2580 Год назад

Nice

@SpecCrazy Год назад

AVC is really old now. At that time it come out for use with CPU Encoding (x264). If compare Hardware H.264 vs x264 you will see different. Unlike H.265 and AV1 that come out while the GPU get very powerful and more versatile like these days. Especially AV1 that must require quite a lot of processing power (must require GPU, otherwise the AV1 quality will come out like garbage like when using SVT-AV1) and many software like Adobe Premiere Pro does not support it make H.265 better in general. But if these 3 codecs have decent value of bitrate it will come out almost the same quality.

@redragongaming Год назад

Yeah i use AVC with 60 MB/s bitrate and the quality is pretty good.

@SpecCrazy Год назад

@@redragongaming I'm using 50-65Mbps on both AVC and HEVC. I think 50Mbps is enough to output a really good quality with save more disk space a bit.

@redragongaming Год назад

@@SpecCrazy What kind of editing software do you use? I am currently editing my videos with Vegas Pro or Cyberlink Power Director.

@SpecCrazy Год назад

@@redragongaming I'm using OBS for recording and Adobe Premiere Pro for editing. Codecs may varies up to my emotion to use it LMAO

@redragongaming Год назад

@@SpecCrazy Wow you are smart, i never got the hang of OBS Studio or Adobe Premiere Pro, they always seemed too complicated to me, i'm kind of retarded anyway.

@yevolution 8 месяцев назад

What do you think is the best birate for 1080p to make sure that all games being streamed are crispy ?

@AncientGameplays 8 месяцев назад

Its all shown in the video

@yevolution 8 месяцев назад

@@AncientGameplays Is it still worth it to go beyond 15mbps for 1080p ? since you did say that the higher the bitrate is better

@preacherplays 9 месяцев назад

So on OBS what's the difference between SVC-AV1, AOM AV1, and AMD HW AV1?

@AncientGameplays 9 месяцев назад

The one you see is amd hw av1, the others are cpu sided, they need a good cpu

@preacherplays 9 месяцев назад

@@AncientGameplays Thank you! My google Fu is apparently very bad because I've been trying to find this information everywhere.

@syrynx4454 Год назад

What about 30 mbps or 50 mbps at 1440p, would there be any difference in quality?

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Yes, higher bitrate always looks better

@Zicrixdoesart Год назад

And they're already working on av2!

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Noice!

@El_ShintA Год назад

Good video

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Thanks

@evilleader1991 Год назад

holy shit i was just looking into this since i discovered that my upload speed was 20 mbps instead of the advertised 10 mbps :P. This should allow me to have a decent enough stream using H.265 encoder to youtube.

@potataoDOCE 4 месяца назад

então vc particularmente nos seus videos tu usa hevc?

@AncientGameplays 4 месяца назад

Sim, por causa do programa de edição

@JayzBeerz Год назад

Hey bro does the 4080 have the AV1 encoder?

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Yes, why don't you guys watch the video...

@JayzBeerz Год назад

@@AncientGameplays I did. 💜

@Somtric Год назад

AV1 seems to lack quality details over HEVC. That was very obvious especially on the mountains & buildings, doing the 11:14 run.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

It depends o the scenario but it is overall better

@Somtric Год назад

@@AncientGameplays I suppose so, what is better though? does it take less performance, smaller file sizes or what? I havn't quite understood what's so good about it, e.g. compared to Nvenc (h.264).? It does seem solid nonetheless, but I would like to see a comparison on performance (FPS) between Hardware AV1 and Nvenc.

@AMDPCBuoldersCommunity Год назад

6900xt has to support it. In OBS it shows up for use, but I don't really stream, but handbrake also does av1 I first tested on the 3950x 2060ko an hour in to use I was 15% done. And on the 5900x and 6900xt same settings the full render was done in 15 minutes 4k to 4k I have a 6900xt on the 3950x as I am doing other testing , so I can test this as well. Now. As well as when I finish memory tuning testing between the 3950x and 6900xt and the 5900x and 6900xt to see if there are different results. Let me know and I can send settings used in OBS as well as version number and do a test stream. For you let me know I got your back

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Not, that's impossible. It shows you the cpu one as explained

@AMDPCBuoldersCommunity Год назад

Also from what I understand resolve supports it have not tested it as of yet something else I can forward information on.

@AMDPCBuoldersCommunity Год назад

@@AncientGameplays the 3950x vs the 5900x run out the same and a 15% to 20% ipc lift would not reduce time to render this much I will have a 5950x later but will test the same movie from hvec to av1 In Handbrake , I have 26Tb of media in house that I have for Plex and recently have been working on testing 4k stuff lots of information learned here on the Plex media server side of things

@AMDPCBuoldersCommunity Год назад

@@AncientGameplays I will test all of it in bit in the deepest dive you will ever see on RU-vid with 6900xt for fun I even put it on FX at 4l lol but 2600x vs 3950x vs 5900x and I will wrap it up with 5800x3d it won't be out till some time august as I am using a ton of different ram settings in testing here. And also open loop vs aio. Just from 3200 cl 18 to 3600cl 14 was a 9-10 fps gain in numbers but giving out too much and as 4x8 is harder on the memory controller this is the best on the 3950x I have dual rank 2x16 that I know will do at least 3800 cl14 on the 3950x and on the 5900x 4000 cl14 everyone should learn a ton from the data I collect here. Rotfl

@s3cr3t_channel Месяц назад

I hope GPU brands will release soon h.266 decoding and encoding.

@AncientGameplays Месяц назад

Av1 mate

@s3cr3t_channel Месяц назад

@@AncientGameplays they already have av1. H.266 is my concern.

@_B.C_ Год назад

Any speculation as to when twitch will allow av1?

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Don't really know

@JohnDoe-ip3oq 7 месяцев назад

The problem with avc is encoders supporting AMD's improvements starting with RDNA 2. I bet they're still using GCN code paths.

@makingzebraop1168 2 месяца назад

I have Amd rx 6600 graphic card and i5 12 gen and My network downloading speed is 25 mbps and uploading is 20-25 mbps which encoder is best for me and how much much bitrate is good for me .... I hope you can help me Thnx 🥰

@kagetora03 Год назад

can u make a video where u compare AMD's and Nvidia's AV1 encoding?

@AncientGameplays Год назад

I could possibly do it I guess

@SirWolf2018 Год назад

When I watch Twitch, my GPU power consumption goes up to 30-40W. On RU-vid, up to 16-20W on my RX 6800. AV1 or HEVC, whichever it is, must be so efficient, apart from looking so clear.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Yeah, not only that, resolution also matters, and the overall platform gpu usage

@Anth0ny85 7 месяцев назад

Should i use my cpu (7800x3d) or my gpu rtx 3060 for obs game recording ? Thank you :))

@AncientGameplays 7 месяцев назад

hey, always the GPU. Much better in terms of performance drop

@Anth0ny85 7 месяцев назад

@@AncientGameplays Thanks for your answer.

@ThunderKat Год назад

Would be nice to see CPU encoding equivalent (viables) and how 8 vs 16 cores modern CPU hold regarding lost performance... Nvidia new nvenc with rtx always been great as it also avoid unnecessary use of RAM and improve games performance over 1000 series and bellow. H265 should be best, but not sure GPU can do this in real time but then x264 using the cPU on medium/slow could achieve similar RTX quality if not better. In my experience to get best result you need to improve game resolution, regardless of end encoding quality the encoding would had an easy time with high resolution sources when doing his magic. Remind of days recording with FRAP using uncompressed format (heavy files), that quality was beyond anything else even up to date like you could full anyone you where actually watching the original screen if you went full-screen and the fun thing is that even a Phenom II could handle the task easy, but then this is offline recording not suit for streaming. I try using OBS uncompressed but doesn't match what Frap offers back in the old days, OBS is a messy program all around. I imagine CPU encoding could become more relevant despite the AV1 introduction as CPU can easily handle the task even at the highest of settings. I have a couple old 1080p video recorded with FRAP the quality was beyond anything else back then, including shadow lay at max settings that came years later.

@dsm828 Год назад

Encoding through software based(cpu) is way more taxing than via hardware, with the gpu the encoding is done by an specialized part, it will always perform miles better than doin it through the cpu. An exemple, rn, afaik there aint a single cpu that can manage av1 in real time...

@marcosvieira6149 Год назад

Ei fábio, tenho uma dúvida.. 90 graus em temperaturas de hotspot para placas como 6700XT, 5700, 3080 , é uma temperatura muito alta ? lembrando .. no HOTSPOT , ótimo contéudo como sempre amigo.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Viva Marcos, 90C é tranquilo, apenas quando estiver nos 100C os mais é que se deve preocupar

@sekyS Год назад

@@AncientGameplays você é brasileiro??

@robertomguimaraes Год назад

@@sekyS lol. Google traduz os comentários.

@nathanbrown492 9 месяцев назад

What about at very high bitrates (eg. if you have two local devices; a VR headset to a PC, a TV on the network to the PC, etc.)

@AncientGameplays 9 месяцев назад

Hevc and av1 are still better

@nathanbrown492 9 месяцев назад

@@AncientGameplays Actually, I don't think so; some Quest Pro users have been switching to h.264 for lower latency and slightly better performance. I found this out after I commented, perhaps you should release a video exploring it from your perspective.

@TannerDuran Месяц назад

So moral of the story, the baseline to aim for is usually HEVC, but AV1 is the best case scenario rn- assuming your system can handle it. Now I just gotta figure out the best settings and stuff to stream on yt and twitch using an i5 13600k paired with radeon rx 7900 gre.

@AncientGameplays Месяц назад

I have a video for those settings as well

@pookano 3 месяца назад

Why AV1 still not using in some streaming software? In OBS only for recording, not streaming..

@AncientGameplays 3 месяца назад

as shown OBS supports AV1, your streaming service doesn't. That's the issue

@pookano 3 месяца назад

@@AncientGameplays what streaming service support it then?

@EternalOhm 3 месяца назад

@@pookano RU-vid and Discord if you count streaming to your friends on discord as a streaming service. Twitch has plans to roll out AV1 support, but that's about it.

@stevenanderson3205 Год назад

I understand AV1 is also open source so no cost to companies to use it.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Exactly, the same for AVC, and HEVC costs 1€ to the user

@LingWinny27 7 месяцев назад

For AMD AVC, here's the best settings I've got with FFmpeg: EnablePreAnalysis=true RateControlPreanalysisEnable=false PAPerceptualAQMode=1 PATemporalAQMode=2 MaxConsecutiveBPictures=1 PASceneChangeDetectionEnable=false PAHighMotionQualityBoostMode=1 PACAQStrength=2 Took me a week of testing stuff and this is the best AMD H264 will get at the moment for Twitch..but even after all of this testing, I'm switching to RU-vid since I bought a RX 6950 XT months ago so HEVC it is for me !

@itsfmg9194 4 месяца назад

How do find those settings ?

@LingWinny27 4 месяца назад

@@itsfmg9194 in your OBS or StreamLabs OBS settings > Output > AMF/FFmpeg. Then paste the lines there

@NOURNOVEY 3 месяца назад

Can I do 2 pass encoding with amf encoders?

@LingWinny27 3 месяца назад

@@NOURNOVEY Pre-Analysis is basically two pass encoding

@user-jg1yp8dx7y 6 месяцев назад

i buy 4060ti and cant activate av1 in obs so for av1 need only 4080 ?

@AncientGameplays 6 месяцев назад

Nah, 4060ti should work, you need to select youtube forst

@ElPerroFlaco19 Год назад

Its compatible with my ryzen 9 5900x + 6950xt codec av1?

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Watch the video, I explain everything in the Intro

@whitezzpt Год назад

Av1 only on the 7000 series AMD.

@imrin4059 Год назад

What monitor are u using?

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Which one

@imrin4059 Год назад

@@AncientGameplays your main, u have multi?, do you know different on av1 4090 or 4000 vs arc intel cards av1 (i saw som vids like av1 9 av1 8 ) what even is that.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

@@imrin4059 You won't notice much difference overall trust me. Also, my main monitor is LG 34GN850

@evilvash0 Год назад

think i'm gonna buy a RX 7600 for the AV1 to pop in my second machine that captures and replace my 2070S because Av1 still handles lower bitrate way better compared to everything else.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Indeed. I am currently testing the 7600

@evilvash0 Год назад

@@AncientGameplays kinda miss my old R9 fury before I replaced it with a 2070S back then but 4gb's of vram was pushing it and needed more umph at the time and was lucky before everything got hectic to get a 2070S for lower then MSRP in June 2020 on newegg but preparing for a new purely gaming PC build with hopefully a R9 8950X and a RX 8950xtx if they even come out that is Edit: will be my last build I probably make the hobby is getting to out of control anymore for pricing :)

@AncientGameplays Год назад

@@evilvash0 indeed...

@evilvash0 Год назад

@@AncientGameplays thanks for the info and subbed can't wait to see your review on the 7600 maybe get some good ideas on the encoding side of the things and stuff :)

@52no Год назад

if u need only card for encoder buy intel arc a750 or a380 amd av1 encoder is trash all amd encoders only for marketing and never updated.5 years i use amd cards and have soulsadnes with encoders and quality for streaming an so happy iam with intel and nvidia encoders now.never buy again amd cards this cards dont have normal quality streaming encoders this is marketing scam.wana stream buy intel arc or nvidia.

@josezapata6568 9 дней назад

whenever i try to record with av1 it says i cant see my vid but i can still hear it

@AncientGameplays 9 дней назад

You need to have codecs for it...

@robertomguimaraes Год назад

Pls test av1 codec quality with vmaf in rx7600 vs 4060ti vs a770 in same this video comparison technique

@AncientGameplays Год назад

The av1 codec is a big bugged on the 7600 since its the first driver it has, but hevc works perfectly

@robertomguimaraes Год назад

@@AncientGameplays thx for comment sir! Love your channel! I use HEVC in 6750xt and i love it, i was thinking about av1 upgrade, but... i will wait more time after your commment hahahahah

@akiro_sen 9 месяцев назад

when I go to import the nvenc avi to premiere pro I get the error that it is not compatible

@AncientGameplays 9 месяцев назад

Because your version of premiere may not suport it

@akiro_sen 9 месяцев назад

@@AncientGameplays I have the latest version of premiere pro

@akiro_sen 9 месяцев назад

@@AncientGameplays what version do you have?

@dosmasdosesigualacuatro5343 Месяц назад

12:09 look at the wall with the lamp, hevc has richer texture detail, those are not artifacts, av1 tends to smooth too much wiping detail in texture, I came to learn that encoding movies where skin looks plastic

@AncientGameplays Месяц назад

av1 and hevc got improved with the 2024 drivers as well.

@sunfos 4 месяца назад

Maybe I missed it, but did you mention framerates?

@AncientGameplays 4 месяца назад

Not really, they don't matter here

@sunfos 4 месяца назад

@@AncientGameplays So to preface, I don't know encoders/encoding. But wouldn't the difference in rate of change between frames matter? Thank you for the quick reply.

@AncientGameplays 4 месяца назад

you can see how they look here at several MBPS, and they will now get improved with the 24.1.1 drivers by the way. On these new AMD cards, the performance impact is basically the same with the 3 encoders, really small@@sunfos

@camp1na325 Год назад

👍

@ferallheart Месяц назад

love that but somehow other streaming platforms like Tiktok are not having AV1😢

@AncientGameplays Месяц назад

Tiktok? Dude...

@ferallheart Месяц назад

@@AncientGameplays Tiktok Studio for streaming, what’s wrong with that?

@how2pick4name Год назад

HEVC encoding sucks on my RX 6800, lots of stuttering but AVC is fine. I record with adrenalin and it's very good imo.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Then there's something missing there. Recorded for years with my 6800 and hevc with no issues. That's maybe windows, or just missing codec extensions

@how2pick4name Год назад

@@AncientGameplays I'll have a look, thanks.

@how2pick4name Год назад

@@AncientGameplays Just got OBS, same thing. Changed practically every setting, no joy. What i did notice was OBS default setting was 1080p output and that seems fine ish. 30000 kbps should be enough. It seems like 4K encoding is the problem. AVC is fine in 4K. P.S. I have video about it if you're interested, with everything I did, converting with avidemux etc. :)

@evilleader1991 Год назад

@@AncientGameplays I am thinking of streaming with an RX 6800 @ 1440p60 on 15 mbps. Do you think that is enough or should I downscale the stream to 1080p, can't afford higher bitrate because my upload speed is only 20mbps :/.

@AncientGameplays Год назад

@@evilleader1991 what you want is more mbps if possible. I used to stream at 1440P 30mbps with no issues. If using youtube, use HEVC

@bobbymoss6160 Год назад

Shoutout to Nalvara!!!!

@lautyprz 5 месяцев назад

Wich one is better? AOM AV1 or SVT AV1???

@AncientGameplays 5 месяцев назад

Those are cpu sided, very heavy on the cpu

@michywageh 8 месяцев назад

How to export AV1 codec from Adobe Premier Pro ?

@AncientGameplays 8 месяцев назад

Don't know. I don't use Premiere

@michywageh 8 месяцев назад

@@AncientGameplays so which editor can i export AV1 codec ?

@slevinshafel9395 Месяц назад

why your video is VP9?

@AncientGameplays Месяц назад

Because youtube converts it lol

@upgrade1373 Год назад

Hard to tell when this video is in VP9 on youtube lol

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Link in the description as explained

@jadadpe3873 3 месяца назад

Apparently we'll be getting HEVC and AV1 support for twitch in OBS sometime this year. Think its first coming to Nvidia gpus then the others a bit later

@AncientGameplays 3 месяца назад

if it supports AV1 I doubt it will be nvidia only, but... being nvidia and twitch the way they are...

@leucome 3 месяца назад

OBS already support AV1 for Intel/AMD GPU and for CPU so it would be weird if it come out on Twitch only for Nvidia.

@thyphantom8806 Месяц назад

Can laptop cpus do AV1 ?

@AncientGameplays Месяц назад

All cpus do AV1 (I think), but av1 is very heavy for them, so its better usually to have it hardware sided

@thyphantom8806 Месяц назад

Specifically the i5 -1235u

@thyphantom8806 Месяц назад

@@AncientGameplays I am asking this because I game on Cloud gaming services.

@FabiWann 2 месяца назад

I have very bad quality while streaming with my 7900XT. For gaming it's great, but for streaming I'm just gonna switch to Nvidia. It's that simple.

@AncientGameplays 2 месяца назад

No it isn't. Just start using av1 and raise mbps. The issue is not amd, is you not knowing how to tweak things lol

@Edin155 23 дня назад

You out here selling business keys lol

@AncientGameplays 23 дня назад

Oem keys aren't prohibited to be sold, and they sell retail ones as well. Also, I am not selling anything, I have zero comission

@MK-xc9to Год назад

Well , you can at least tell RU-vid under Settings that you prefer AV1 playback . And this is an AV1 test video on RU-vid ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m1jY2VLCRmY.html , RU-vid calls it AV 01 , but its AV1 . If your GPU supports AV1 playback like the RTX 6xxx GPUs or the RT30xx GPUs than your CPU usage is nearly zero as you can see here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--1JIliUlNQA.html , i used h265 ( HEVC) for the Capture . Sadly my 6800XT only supports AV1 playback , not encoding

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Exactly

@yarostrike Год назад

YT recommends 12 Mbps for streaming

@AncientGameplays Год назад

Yeah, but Twitch also recommends 6Mbps for streaming and it sucks. Always stream at the best quality you can IF you GPU and Internet can handle it

@thehunter894 Год назад

Nice vidio all mighty Christ, but as much as I love AMD I am disappointed that I have to use old 22.11.2 GPU drivers in case to play VR titles. (RX 6700XT Owner)

@AncientGameplays Год назад

It seems that for some the new drivers are perfectly fine...report your issue

@thehunter894 Год назад

@@AncientGameplays must disagree. We are Talking here about Virtual Desktop

@AncientGameplays Год назад

@@thehunter894 That I don't know, all I know is some people claimed their VR gaming was fine