AMD is in TROUBLE - Ryzen 7000 Full Review - Ryzen 7600X, Ryzen 7700X, Ryzen 7900X, Ryzen 7950X

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At long last, AMD has launched their new Zen 4 CPUs, Ryzen 7950X, 7900X, 7700X, and 7600X, and they look great. Alongside the enhancements of socket AM5, these new chips look like they give Intel a run for their money... or do they? AMD has a bit of an issue of not being better than their best gaming chip, or better value than Intel's platform which makes some of these chips hard to recommend. And with Intel's Raptor Lake looming on the horizon, AMD's future might not look so bright anymore.
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@LinusTechTips Год назад

Corrections: 1. 2:06 Our Ryzen 7000 and Intel 12th Gen test benches were equipped with 6000MHz CL36 RAM, as per AMD's recommendation. 2. 11:09 The x-axis label should read "CPU Package Power (W) - Lower is Better"

@samgranier6735 Год назад

Thx 1138 lot 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@labradors6825 Год назад

you should pin this comment.

@hugodivalinov2909 Год назад

Also the name of the guy is Celsius, not Celcius;)

@anlukinha8764 Год назад

3. 12:30 "But Linus, you might say..."

@shiningstar9403 Год назад

Those mistakes were sponsored by INTEL 😂

@couriersix2443 Год назад

Having your previous gen "niche" part outperform most of your new gen parts goes to show how insane 3D V-Cache is. Now if they were to debut it on Zen4 as a 7800x3D...

@Vilmir Год назад

Rumor has it that it's coming sooner than it came for 5000.

@acmenipponair Год назад

also it helps AMD in getting MORE customers. Because not everyone will go to the newest CPU - the costs are higher and it's still a first gen of AM5, and many, especially companies, are not early adopters. But they know, they can still upgrade their Zen 1 to a Zen 3 in the future and get quite the performance of a Zen 4. (Don't forget, that many companies will be forced to do that in 2023-2025, when Windows 10 gets into the finish line of their support time thanks to Microsoft schenanigans)

@Woolsupgamers5 Год назад

@@Vilmir I hope so!

@dcxSpartan117 Год назад

7000 series vcache might show it's face Q1 23'

@couriersix2443 Год назад

@@Vilmir I would hope so, the Zen3 launch was the first of it's kind / more of a "test run", and now that it's been proven to be a real game changer, I'd imagine it shouldn't take long for them to start slapping it into possibly more than just 1 SKU this gen

@MisterFribble Год назад

More than anything this highlights just how *insane* the 5800X3D is. I can't wait for the 3D 7000 chips.

@cringeremasterd8101 Год назад

AMD AND COUNTER STRIKE ARE BEST FREINDS PROVE ME WRONG

@reviewforthetube6485 Год назад

You mean the i9 12900k ans 5800x3d because the 12900k was right there with the 7950x also.

@superneenjaa718 Год назад

@@reviewforthetube6485 it's the KS one. 5800x3d beats the regular 12900k.

@wwllsswtrustong Год назад

zen4 with 3d v-cache, it's gonna be incredibly hot

@IamAWESOME3980 Год назад

LOL

@Ducaso Год назад

Honestly having integrated graphics saved my butt when my dedicated gpu died on me suddenly and it was next to impossible to source a new one during the shortage. Sure quality and frames took a huge hit but it was still usable (and playable) to the point that by the time I received a new card over a year later I had gotten used to it lol.

@probablykeen Год назад

Doesn’t happened enough the last 5 years for me to care about integrated graphics

@PPlankBeam Год назад

Yep, and that's why I took the decision last year to buy a 5600G rather than an X and lost a few CPU benchmark points. But in daily driving I honestly wouldn't know. I had to test out the integrated graphics without my discrete GPU in and if you're happy to reduce the graphics quality a little, games will still look and work fine. Not great, but not bad either, so it makes a good lifeboat if the worst happens until you can afford a new discrete GPU.

@jtenorj Год назад

@StrizFPS I've been having random crashes in my system since I installed a RX 6700 XT(PowerColor Fighter). Which model RX 6700 XT is giving you trouble?

@swapnilgohil7280 Год назад

Gamers when they find they don't have to but the most expensive hardware

@disruptivegarage Год назад

i used to be able to play fable on a motherboard with integrated graphics on the bulldozer architecture, turning off half the cores truly unlocked its potential.

@dazzauk8334 Год назад

The only reason i have gone with Zen4 is, my last PC was AM3 so i needed to buy a whole new setup. It made sense for me to get the latest Zen4 because i can afford it, and those 3D versions on this gen excite me alot.

@fdfd4739 Год назад

The thing that sells it for me are the minimums. They kill in averages, but the actual experience improvement is unreal.

@slartibartfast2649 Год назад

Not "unreal" improvements. We have seen uplifts greater than this before. Actually quite disappointed. The high end is crazy fast for sure, but draws 250W and the low end is not very impressive in terms of price to performance vs last gen Intel.

@jordanwardle11 Год назад

@@slartibartfast2649 I mean, every uplift from after the 80s is quite disappointing, making games go from unplayable to bearly playable

@DarkSwordsman Год назад

I'm interested to know how those minimums are measured. The 3950X had reported decent minimums, but the actual experience in some games is nearly unplayable (at least for someone like me that values smoothness) due to the CCX design. Even a game like minecraft which is often a cakewalk today often has stutter and hitching issues that make it difficult to enjoy. I've seen this with every game I play and it makes me almost wish I went 9th gen Intel at the time since the other Intel systems in my family were getting higher and smoother FPS.

@sourdonkeyjuice Год назад

In your benchmarks I think I can speak for a lot of people using older parts like my Ryzen 9 3900XT that we'd like to see the difference between these older parts and the brand new ones. Not just a comparison between the brand new one and the one that came out right before. It's a pretty small portion of your audience that has the newest one that's out and looking to upgrade to the next one immediately.

@DracoMhuuh Год назад

Preach

@o3941 Год назад

You would think it would be pretty simple for them They had to have tested those chips in the past. I'm sure we could all go-a-searching for those videos and then compare the numbers, but, like, they should already have thosen umbers. How hard is it to add another slide to their video and 30 seconds of script to account for it?

@allxtend4005 Год назад

to be honest you will not see big differences. the ting is a Ryzen 3900xt is still more then enough to handle even 4k gaming with 60 - 100+ fps

@valenten89 Год назад

Gamers nexus has a test that includes the Ryzen 7 1700 for what its worth.

@nickskier1 Год назад

That might be too much data for a video though, a lot to compare in 15 minutes. Maybe if they start posting an online website summary that be great. But I think the reason still is good enough to just show against the last gen, is this is more about what should you buy next, its a worthy comparison since last gen chips will still be sold for a little while and be cheaper, to see if its worth it to actually get the newest gen

@Dave-dh7rt Год назад

6:16 I would say that a 40% lead going from the 5700X to the 7700X is mighty impressive.

@user-el7iy6bh9w 7 месяцев назад

also in price as today

@derelictdiva Год назад

I just want to say, I saw your recent video about how you have 80 people working at LTT now, and having watched since there were was like 10-14 of you? I’m so damn happy and proud of my fellow Canadian techies! But also, it shows! The writing and production quality of your videos is so so high! I loved the red background with the blue banana and the ‘redblueredblue’ going across the screen! So many little details that just make this (and all your videos) look SO professional! Good job team!

@jezuconz7299 Год назад

I was literally already thinking about waiting for the 3D-version of the 7000 series to build my pc from scratch before this video. This only further confirms it. I'm expecting 7000-3D to be an absolute BEAST

@iGPR3 Год назад

maybe theyll splash out and do a 7600x with a 3d v cache aswell.. i can see that selling fast

@JJAB91 Год назад

When is that supposed to release?

@ismaelsoto9507 Год назад

@@JJAB91 Rumors says Q1 2023

@iGPR3 Год назад

@@JJAB91 the normal stuff releases sometime tomorrow and the V cache isnt gonna be for another few months.. although it is rumoured to be earlier than the launch of the 5800X3D its not gonna be here for a while. the 5800X release in nov 5th of 2020 and the 5800X3D released in april of 2022, so its gonna be a hot minute before the 7000 series’s 3D releases.

@iGPR3 Год назад

@@ismaelsoto9507 that seems pretty early, i was thinking more like late Q2 early Q3 before the release it

@Agent_Eli Год назад

I was about to feel dumb for recently getting a 5800X3D, but hot damn these benchmarks are really validating my poor foresight.

@icemanchambers1207 Год назад

It should be illegal to own that shit

@mrtube827 Год назад

Updates, Drivers…

@jasoncohen5469 Год назад

X3D? I've had the 5800x since launch didn't know there was an updated model.

@meteormelee Год назад

keep in mind, the 5800x3d is more of a gaming oriented CPU. notice how it didn't show up on any of the productivity benchmarks here? the 7000 series are still really capable chips for both gaming/productivity, but the 5800x3d is mainly just good for gaming. (not that it's bad)

@ZboeC5 Год назад

@@meteormelee I like how you just casually dismiss how awesome a 5800X is....get outta here with that nonsense. The 5800X3D is going to do just as well as any 5800X, except it does better in games.

@TheSeanUhTron Год назад

Whatever the case, I'm just glad that AMD and Intel are finally very competitive (In the desktop/laptop market). It was rather annoying during the 2010's when AMD had no competitor to Intel's top chips. The huge gain in single core performance has convinced me to upgrade my 3900x to a 7900x. Although, Intel is still not competitive enough with AMD's EPYC server CPU's, and barely competitive with Thread Ripper. In that segment, you're better off going AMD.

@wdunn06 Год назад

Im in the same boat, ive got a 3900x right now and cant decide what to upgrade to. Its driving me nuts!

@TheSeanUhTron Год назад

@@wdunn06 I got my 7900x a few days ago. Awesome performance, but the DDR5 side of it seems to be a little bit finicky. It took me an hour just to get it to boot. Had to turn off EXPO, then it started working. Turned EXPO back on yesterday and suddenly it's working fine now. Except POST takes like, 20-30 seconds. It apparently has to "train" the DDR5 timings during POST and that can take a long time. My advice: Give it a few months. There's also the rumored Zen 4 X3D versions coming in January!

@wdunn06 Год назад

@The SeanUhTron Thanks for your advice mate I appreciate it. I never knew the ddr5 had to be essentially trained, interesting. What is this X3D thing I keep seeing it man?

@TheSeanUhTron Год назад

@@wdunn06 X3D is 3D V-Cache, it's essentially a massive L3 cache which can improve performance by a significant amount.

@grn1 Год назад

I've got a 5800X I bought not all that long ago (I think the X3D was technically available but I couldn't find any at a reasonable price). Don't game all too often nowadays (I'd like to fix that but I've got to get my arse in gear and find a different job), so I'm in no rush to upgrade. Next upgrade will probably be a graphics card but my old RTX2700 is still going strong and only struggles with a couple of games that are probably not well optimized.

@crosshunter3316 Год назад

Well, Linus convinced me that my purchase of 5800x3D was a good choice, well done Linus!

@supersaiyansoldier1977 Год назад

Same lmao. Bought mine a few weeks ago and feeling a lot better after watching the video.

@carl5381 Год назад

BIG YUP

@Devin7Eleven Год назад

Got mine for $250

@phurinkazan Год назад

people who play flight sim actually "downgrade" to the 5800x3d from higher tier chips.

@brunther Год назад

@@Devin7Eleven from where??

@DarthRambo007 Год назад

Cant wait for this to be available at my region in 3 yrs

@thepotatopcguy8907 Год назад

what region are you in?

@mug7692 Год назад

I feel you man

@JATTI_ Год назад

Tomorrow (27 september) is the date sales begin world wide. Just confirmed at my local dealer and I live in kind of shitty reagion for computer stuff (prices are high and availibility is slow)

@Edge_of_Sanity Год назад

ebay?

@woodroemitchell2848 Год назад

Dang what region is that?

@jcamp321 Год назад

Would it be possible to organize your bar graphs by the type of test rather than processor? It might give an easier to understand side by side comparison as the graphs don't stay on screen that long.

@itsKEVO Год назад

5:25 why did ryzen 5800x 3d get removed from the charts??? any else notice 😡😡

@802Garage Год назад

I think this is just a simple case of early adopters paying the price. As more affordable motherboards come out, more DDR5 RAM is available, and sales start happening, it will all make more sense from a financial standpoint. There's no doubt the performance is impressive. Now give us the Zen 4 3D chips!

@marcfruchtman9473 Год назад

Normally I would agree, but new gens are usually associated with significant performance improvements. The improvements with these chips don't seem to be gamer oriented. So, adoption will be much slower, and therefore the rate the price comes down will be tantalizingly slow.

@OfSheikah Год назад

I don't think the case of the 5800X3D early adopters is a rushed type of decision those buyers made

@agentooe33AD Год назад

@@marcfruchtman9473 Actually, that would hasten the prices lowering. If there's not a high demand, they'll have to lower prices to get people to buy them. The initial Zen 4 chips were primarily designed for servers and laptops (hence the iGPU), and enough gamning performance to compete. The V-Cache models are the ones to get ifyou want next gen. Current prices are for early adopters only. Once that crowd gets their fill, prices will go down. Most gamers will likely just stick wtih a 5800x3d and DDR4 if they're building now, or one of the cheaper intel chips. Next year will be when gamers start adopting AM5 when the V cache chips come out.

@marcfruchtman9473 Год назад

@@agentooe33AD I would like to think that. But lately, I am seeing companies simply "holding out"... and waiting for the public to simply adapt to the higher prices. So, I don't have a lot of hope that things will improve.

@zkeepah Год назад

@@agentooe33AD or they'll just simply make less product, price only goes down if they have overstock, and once it's in a retailer's hands, amd's already got their check, regardless of what kind of sales the retailer has to pull to get rid of it

@ripleyhrgiger4669 Год назад

The 5800X3D is a beast and I've had nothing but great experiences with it.

@dreku8743 Год назад

Fr that 3d cache is a Monster

@ahmedrazick4946 Год назад

A 7800x3d is gonna be so good

@MisterFribble Год назад

I think it'll go down in history like the i7-4790K. A true monster.

@dondew00 Год назад

glad you guys have friends to impress meanwhile

@serdarcam99 Год назад

@@MisterFribble i have i7-4790K working on 4.5ghz its still rocks beats even the newest entry level quad cores after all these years

@una-mura Год назад

i don't even speak spanish (portuguese speaker) but this is so funny lmao

@xXx_Regulus_xXx Год назад

I'm still on gen 1 ryzen, it'll be fun to see what kinds of performance gains I can get and for what prices when I choose to upgrade. I'd actually prefer no onboard gpu since I won't get any use out of it with a dedicated gpu always being in the system, but still, glad red and blue are competing so hard these days

@s_for_short2400 10 месяцев назад

Im just looking at getting a new 3600 for 70$, rest of my pc if good enough 😄

@M4jkelson 9 месяцев назад

@@s_for_short2400 why not 5600?

@s_for_short2400 9 месяцев назад

@@M4jkelson i could, theyre 110$ here

@vericksworkshop5007 Год назад

As others have said the new variety of productivity benchmarks is great but as a mechanical engineering student, it would be nice to see benchmarks for CADing softwares too. I'm sure it would be useful for ltt engineers as well. :)

@4473021 Год назад

May as well have them run FEA benchmarks too lol

@TitanUnleashed7 Год назад

Yes I complete agree with this! I wanna see Ansys fea simulations lol

@antoine3957 Год назад

Well, as CAD Software is mostly single threaded you should look mainly at the single core performance

@the_maker1841 Год назад

I second, also a Mechanical engineering student

@bingbing3464 Год назад

You should be using gpu acceleration on CAD.

@gehenna_ca Год назад

AMD has already stated that there will be 3D cache versions of Zen 4. I'm guessing they'll be released after Intel 13000 series drops. It will allow AMD to see significant increases without having to change anything else and still compete with the new Intel chips.

@wandew7057 Год назад

@Steve Sherman bro what are you talking about late, they weren’t allowed to release a review until today. They would get sued. Second of all, just because amd didn’t quite live up to the hype doesn’t mean that the review was biased.

@jpfidalgo7 Год назад

That sounds like a good plan. Let’s cross fingers, because we shall not deny any uplifts in performance. Only when the price goes to insanity as well.

@Churchgrimm Год назад

@@wandew7057 Look at his other comments on the channel, absolutely a troll.

@NigraXXL Год назад

Does anyone know if 3d v cache would technically be compatible with more powerful apus? I'm waiting for the 7th gen apus with rdna3 before upgrading so I can assign the integrated graphics to a VM

@GeekProdigyGuy Год назад

Intel 13th gen is coming in 1-2 months. 3D V-cache versions of Zen 4 probably won't be released until ~6 months from now, at which point they'll be close to cutting in on their own launch for next year. It's a bit of a weird strategy.

@digitalnuke Год назад

Loving the info here, although I wish you'd have included the 5800X3D in the various sets of benchmarks... I have a 5900X and was thinking the 5800X3D might be a more reasonable upgrade than the 7000 series, since I could retain all my existing hardware. What are your thoughts?

@Kevin-gf4im Год назад

I did this but I play mmo's. GW2, BDO and wow all 30+fps gains over my 5900x.

@ZboeC5 Год назад

@@Kevin-gf4im To be fair the 5900/5950 weren't supposed to be the gaming chips. People just tried to make them into that. The 5800X was the sweet spot because all the cores and cache were a single chip instead of the chiplet design where everything works until whatever is in cache gets split or the workload ends up split between the two chiplets which hurts performance. That's why they added the 3D cache to the 5800 and not the 5900/5950 in the first place. It was in the best place to take advantage of that performance uplift. Considering the benchmarks I'd say AMD hit that one square on the head...almost too well.

@Drew1Down Год назад

back to the old FX days with that high power usage

@ashscott6068 Год назад

What does it matter when GPUs are using over 400 watts?

@berniecat8756 Год назад

The APUs are extremely helpful for folks who need to do GPU pass through to a virtual machine.

@DeeezNuts Год назад

thats why i want an AMD cpu, enjoying my time in linux but i just need a better cpu for VM's to play seige and warzone, my i5-7600k wont handle that

@ninammnn Год назад

Agreed

@ThinkAboutVic Год назад

@@DeeezNuts literally every intel cpu has a variant with iGPUs lmaoo

@avarise5607 Год назад

@@ThinkAboutVic yes, but more cores = linux kvm happy

@mahfudzk Год назад

@@ThinkAboutVic F suffix exist

@rene2778 Год назад

It would have been nice if the 5800x3d was added in the productivity charts. The gaming numbers were impressive enough to take a second look before upgrading from 5000 series to 7000 series.

@itsmyright2229 Год назад

Seconded

@karehaqt Год назад

The extra cache doesn't benefit productivity software as much (if at all) as it does games, hence why the 5800X3D was touted as the CPU for gamers. In some cases it performs worse than the 5800X due to the lower clock speed.

@mrsuperselenio5694 Год назад

@@karehaqt Hence why I am going for a 5800x instead of 3D, main priority is work, I can live without those extra frames

@keylatheace_dcs127 Год назад

in productivity, even the 5800X (non 3D) is better, and for the same price you can get a 5900X

@DavidAlfredoGuisado Год назад

Yes put the 5800X3D running Linux where it consistently outperforms the rest of Zen 3 CPUs in many professional apps.

@MHBGT Год назад

Thanks for the architectural changes comparison! 👌 Watched a few reviews and LTT is the only place that mentioned Zen 4 having doubled L2 cache, 1M instead 0.5M per core on Zen 3. That's a big contributor to the generational improvement.

@lytlejj1408 Год назад

i was planning a build to replace my HP pre-"build" and wanted to use the ryzen 7 7700x but now im left wondering what cpu i should use for that price range

@Arch3r666 Год назад

That moment of an experiment of X3D working too well that it becomes the expectation and benchmark new chips needs to actually beat.... AMD should never stop being AMD with all those innovations

@lencas112 Год назад

rumors say that we can expect zen4 x3d to launch 1/4 quater next year. and if they won't cost 1k would be a beast for a gaming cpu

@riel0563 Год назад

@@lencas112 it'll probably be 50 to 100 more than the non 3d

@damienjeremytrotman94 Год назад

@@riel0563 That's a good price.

@dirg3music Год назад

This seems to be a pattern with AMD, just like with threadripper and EPYC, they're their own biggest competition. You love to see that type of thing, shit like that moves the entire industry forward by putting competitors feet to the fire. Now you've got an Intel that's hungry and actually trying to top the charts. We all win in these exchanges.

@weasle2904 Год назад

@@riel0563 Definitely not, AMD is going to CRUSH Intel in gaming performance and will probably demand a price premium. Although Intel will likely slash their prices to under cut AMD. Probably will do a similar strategy to last year, cut all CPU prices then release the X3D chips at around the same for slightly higher than previous MSRP.

@treloarw Год назад

Haven’t finished the video yet but. Isn’t this just yet another testament to the badassery of 3d v-cache??? Cannot wait to see results of their first ones on this generation!

@benjaminoechsli1941 Год назад

Same. Everything they've said about V-cache to date has been along the lines of, "Yeah, the 5800X3D was a beta test. Just wait for next gen. 😎"

@MrYodaBomb Год назад

I'm sure u finished the video by now, but yes 3D vcache is dope. But my biggest takeaway was the MASSIVE improvement in minimums. That's a very black and white form of progress imo because there is no * for clarity or 'technically correct' when your minimum gains are off the chart.

@jackpowell9276 Год назад

@@MrYodaBomb Id love to see the charts with only minimum FPS on. It is ultimately, the core experience for gaming.

@DMan-ud6bt Год назад

Honestly, the fact they aren't releasing a CPU with V-Cache with these others may be the difference that keeps me with Intel - coming from a 10 year old i7-3970X.

@solips Год назад

Rewatching it with the spanish audio track!

@UffeProductions Год назад

Great video. The graphs however are a thorn in the eye - some data visualization best practices will go a long way :)

@StaySic4Ever Год назад

Yeah exactly what I expected, very good improvements, but 3D-cache shows it's amazing tech, so definitely waiting for 3D-cache SKU for sure.

@kleinerroemer85 Год назад

I really appreciate the productivity benchmarks. In addition I would love to see them normalized over consumed Wh and retailer price though. I guess the absolute numbers make more sense for gaming benchmarks.

@carl-josephkolb1564 Год назад

I am curious to see their new 7000s laptop versions. I hope they'll extend battery life a bit.

@vallorahn Год назад

I know that you will read that, Linus ;) From labs I would've expected to see the power draw comparison vs similarly configured Intel system. Maybe simulate 1hr of gaming with the exact same inputs and also maybe a 1hr encoding or rendering job and measure the whole system power draw. Use the same power supply, AIO cooler that has adapters for both intel and AMD, graphics card and RAM and similar mid-range motherboard from the same manufacturer. That would be interesting. Does AMD boost high with high power draw, but being fast, for a very short period, so that the overall power draw is actually less? Taking into account also the needed extra cooling performance, it would be very interesting, measuring the cooling power draw, the CPU power draw and the overall power draw from the wall. You could make it more interesting via making LTT staff bet on which one comes on top in horse race betting style.

@lol_vevo Год назад

I know it's kind of a niche thing, but I'm glad all chips have integrated graphics, comes in handy if you want to pass your dedicated graphics card to a VM

@DoubleU159 Год назад

Integrated graphics would’ve saved me a lot of time troubleshooting when my gtx 1080 just decided to die.

@durschfalltv7505 Год назад

Exactly. And DDR5 is super usefull for that. I currently run looking glas with a rx 560 and a gtx 760 and a r7 5800x. (i am in the middle of setting it up). A r7 7700x would be perfect since it ahs the beef to power a vm + host and ddr5 enables fast enough vram so you are not limited in resolution or framrate when it comes to your vm. Because i heared igpu's because of it's ram based vram are limited in performance but ddr5 could bring a big boost. Maybe we can see quad hd on a igpu then. i heared 1080p is like the limit with current igpu's. I am really exited.

@a36538 Год назад

Hasn’t Intel had this for years? Decades even?

@durschfalltv7505 Год назад

@@a36538 yes. but now ddr5 is more affordable.

@TonyTwo8192 Год назад

@@a36538 Not all of their chips have it, only some.

@GOPACKERSJT Год назад

I bought a 5700x and put it in my ancient x370 motherboard back in April. I was able to OC it to 4.7Ghz. I think I'm set on the CPU side of things for a few years. It was a MASSIVE upgrade over my 2700x @ 4.2Ghz. I also just got an RX 6750 XT to replace my 1080 ti. This is the first time in nearly 5 years I've refreshed my desktop. It feels good to finally be able to do it for good prices, especially since Zen 3 parts are really cheap right now.

@RYzE_B3Y0ND Год назад

Hell yeah. I just did the same upgrade recently plus went to faster and higher capacity RAM for the cost of the 7600X alone.

@GOPACKERSJT Год назад

@@RYzE_B3Y0ND I actually upgraded ram as well. I was able to get up to 3800mhz and 1900mhz on the fclock.

@VietboyGamerUSA Год назад

did you sell your GPU if so how much?

@GOPACKERSJT Год назад

@@VietboyGamerUSA no I sold my fiance's GTX 1080 to a friend of ours for a deal (he was on a dying r9 290x) and then she took my old 1080 ti.

@quann06 Год назад

I went from 2700x to 5900x.

@DogWithSwag1 Год назад

Me gusta el español, no es perfecto pero... Hey, puedo entenderlo!

@michaelboehme7964 Год назад

Linus talking about his backpacks warranty: "Trust me bro, I gotchu" Linus talking about buying literally anything else: "Dont purchase a promise" @12:35

@yellowflash511 Год назад

I take this very positively tbh just imagine Zen 4 3d chips which we know are coming. Zen 4 is great I might build a full AMD build next year, now waiting for Radeon 7000 in Nov.

@Soutar3DG Год назад

@@_____alyptic Very possibly, with Zen 5 we should be getting more cores as well, using a sort of Big Little design, Zen 5 chiplet and Zen 4c chiplet, the one that's going to be used in Bergamo, the server chip, could be the Zen 5 chiplet has cache on top for pure gaming perf etc, whereas the Zen 4c chiplet is for lower power, more multitasking stuff etc, who knows what might happen.

@Freestyle80 Год назад

amd fanbois will take everything they do positively, buy the product not the freaking name of the company that made it

@gthakur17 Год назад

I was ready to jump ship to amd last time but couldn't. Next time i am definitely going for it

@boomdaus Год назад

Anyone else remember owning a radeon hd 7000 series and was confused for a second

@JosePineda-jn8jk Год назад

@@Freestyle80 I mean people do that both ways. Just let them be and make a good decision on your platform, that is what I do at least lol.

@th3c05m05 Год назад

awesome work with the labs! can't wait to see yall integrate them more into your videos

@YoSerLeoZ Год назад

El track en español me recuerda a los caps viejos en discovery o en history channel. y hace que extrañe el tono de voz de Linus.

@marcus_ohreallyus Год назад

Thanks for the workstation benchmarks. There's a lot of us who actually need the CPU for work.

@nirast2561 Год назад

Two things I got from this video: - I'll probably upgrade to a 5800X3D soon-ish, then move to AM5 when the 8000 or 9000 series launches. - The design of the new boxes is FIRE!

@endless2239 Год назад

I'd wait for when they announce the r7 7800x3D for that, either it will be the better option, or the 5800x3D gets a considerable cut in price. Although Idk how "soon-ish" that be.

@dawsongooch4194 Год назад

I got my B450M, 2600x, and 5700 at a great time back in 2019. Paid like $700 for the whole build. Will probably need to shell out $800-1000 later this year to get a 5800x3D and next gen Radeon GPU, but then I should be set until 9000 or 10000 series. And by then AM5 prices should have dropped nicely

@Milkdromida Год назад

@@endless2239 The R7 7800x3D will cost far, far more than it'll be worth when factoring in a new motherboard and RAM. For most (including me), The 5800x3D is probably the way to go. Amazon has a sale coming up, and I'm hoping it'll be included. However, I'm still using 2400Mhz RAM, and I don't know whether to upgrade that or just take the 7000 series route.

@ThaexakaMavro Год назад

im going 5950x and will upgrade to zen 5 or even zen 6

@Milkdromida Год назад

@@ThaexakaMavro Are you sure that's the right choice? Is gaming your focus or do you do other productivity tasks. If gaming is what you are after, get the 5800x3D

@matthewwatt3284 Год назад

Currently use Ansys day-to-day for CAE/simulation work, which apparently benefits significantly from AVX-512 in terms of Mechanical. Would love to know the difference in solution times between Ryzen 5000 and 7000 chips to see how real this is. Also would just be awesome to see some CAE specific benchmarks/content!

@krzysztof6123 Год назад

@schuey7 Год назад

Check out avx512 review on linux

@MagicalWizard223 Год назад

You should watch Level1Techs and Level1Linux channel. They have just put out a video on Ryzen 7000 and will cover these benchmarks.

@bluspectre2042 Год назад

@@krzysztof6123 ++

@timotheus34 Год назад

Check out the review from Hardware unboxed, they covered AVX-512 Performance. (Although they´ve only covered the 7600x yet, you should be able to extrapolate from that)

@artemisDev Год назад

you need to also look at the eco modes. which puts forward how efficient these are as well

@KHROMATICxKHAOS Год назад

Was on the fence about the 5800X3D then heard about all the announcements, hoping AMD would show off the next generation X3D, kind of disappointed but now I will get to wait and see what Intel brings to the table and see AMD's 3D chips as well. Leaning towards AMD for future proofing for the first time since the FX-4170...

@PlayWaves1 Год назад

Also AMD is expected to launch the 7800X3D in Q1 of 2023.

@scottf136 Год назад

I would love to see a gradient of benchmarks from 8th or 9th gen Intel to current gen or 13th gen. I am sporting a 9900k and I am starting to feel it struggle on applications like Photoshop, Lightroom, DNG Converter, and Premier. I see a lot of comparison of the new stuff with last gen, but I imagine most people are going be coming off of older gen CPUs and wondering, what will be the best value for their workflow in the next gen of Intel or AMD. Video comparisons I have seen have mostly been game related, and the FPS improvements, while better, were nothing that made me think I need to run out and get a 12900k over my 9900k. But an array of benchmarks across multiple work domains would be more useful.

@ScrewFearMe Год назад

I have an Intel 8700k and I feel like it's time to upgrade, just dont have any money to upgrade to anything to atm. xD

@vik6092 Год назад

@@ScrewFearMe i got you bro

@BikeHelmetMk2 Год назад

@@ScrewFearMe That's kind of the big problem. Linus didn't really cover it well, but the power rate per kwh has been trending upward all across North America, with some places (like parts of California) being nuts. If you use your computer for many hours per day, that 150 watt difference between AMD and Intel adds up to thousands of dollars over the life of the computer. (Unless you get free power. But then someone else is paying it.) Thousands of dollars is a lot of parts upgrades. Most of my friends that went Intel are sporting upper midrange chips, while most of my friends that went AMD just opted for the highest tier, often with GPUs a notch higher too - and still save money over time due to that lower power consumption. It's way easier to collect the money to upgrade if you're not flushing tons more away on your power bill.

@fried28056 Год назад

Would have liked to have seen underclocking covered in this review as other publications have shown a drastic reduction in power and temps with almost no performance loss.

@tashima42 Год назад

El audio en español no es perfecto, pero es increíble lo que una AI puede hacer, muchas gracias por hacer el contenido más accessible LTT.

@gabrielfernandez4503 Год назад

Es una AI?! Pense que era un doblaje bastante deficiente del animo de Linus. Pero al ser AI cambiaria mi opinion a asombro.

@joelcoll4034 Год назад

Los sutitulos siguen siendo una opcion mucho mejor

@Anxiou5Panda Год назад

The numbers are getting crazier, but I am mostly impressed with the inclusion of integrated graphics. I think at this point, all CPUs should have it, regardless if it's from Intel, AMD, or even Apple. Really helpful when your graphics card suddenly becomes dysfunctional or just dies and you can't buy a new one right away.

@everythingpc9703 Год назад

Literally just went through this and luckily my 9900k had integrated graphics on it. My 3090 fan fell off and completely went out on me. Luckily I still had a year and a half left on my warranty so it got replaced, but I would’ve been without a computer that I need for work for over a week if I didn’t have integrated graphics.

@Anxiou5Panda Год назад

@@everythingpc9703 Glad you still have that warranty mate. Buying a new graphics card these days is just depressing, and yeah, yours is one of the many proofs justifying the inclusion of internal graphics. I got fired because my laptop died on me (although it is not GPU related), but the idea is, without a working desktop/laptop computer, you could have potentially suffered the same experienced I had.

@mannyheffley5481 9 месяцев назад

Gen 3 pentium integrated graphics run most indie games at 60fps

@Joe-wk9ow Год назад

I can't wait for the 3d v-cache and I hope they put the cache on more than just the 8 core models this time.

@tokiomitohsaka7770 Год назад

I am super happy to see the LTT lab results! Hope we get a tour of the finished lab soon.

@DarkP1 Год назад

a tour? geez go to disneyland, people wanting to see something that boring like another people room computers are sad

@ZNotFound Год назад

@@DarkP1 Just because you don't find it interesting doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it.

@DarkP1 Год назад

@@ZNotFound I know you guys will enjoy it a lot, that's the sad part

@tokiomitohsaka7770 Год назад

@@DarkP1 I think Disneyland is boring, labs and computers are always interesting!

@Owen-np3wf Год назад

The new 3D models will be where it's at and should justify the buy in cost to the new platform as long as it's supported for 3 or 4 CPU releases.

@jerrywatson1958 Год назад

Thanks for this Linus. I have been torn as what to do with my current setup. But I have to say, It's the motherboards pricing that kills the deal with me. I will get a 5800X3D to upgrade my 5600X, my Sapphire Toxic 6900XT will give me at least another year until the 3D Vcache versions come out and come down in price (next fall?). If the 5700G comes down some more in pricing I'll upgrade my HTPC 5600X w/LC Vega64 to that for the power savings. For 4 years I ran a FX9590 and 8350 for 5 years. I still use the same cooling systems custom water loop for gaming and air for the HTPC. If you've been with AMD for a few years you know in the past they can bring the heat. But this time around that crown goes to Intel. Sorry but for me $700 for a gaming motherboard that sold last gen for $400 - $500 is TOO MUCH GREED! AMD will still get my money, but the AIB's won't until prices come back down to earth. I only recently upgraded my gpu because of the drastic price drop. RDNA2 nor RTX 3000 series are going to be obsolete in the next year maybe two but if you look at the Steam survey the 10 series and RX580's are still the majority of gpus used for casual gaming.

@The3nd187 Год назад

I'm still running an '8350 setup.

@mitchellj.9360 Год назад

Linus, LOVE the results of Lab. Super excited to see how much more depth you guys will get in these reviews as time goes on.

@RamBoZamBo123 Год назад

This was probably just Anthony doing his benchmark magic.

@aaronchamberlain4698 Год назад

@@RamBoZamBo123 Sounds like they were using their new game automation test sweet. Also, those relative performance graphs are new I think. Don’t think they’ve done that before.

@kinpact6100 Год назад

I was wondering why in their CS:GO testing that the 12600K was behind Ryzen 5000 when in their review for alder Lake they showed the 12600K beating almost all AMD's CPUS?

@joncarter3761 Год назад

Looking forwards to the gaming focused 7800X 3D and 7600X 3D reviews, I have a feeling they'll be held until after Intel announces 13th gen though so AMD can decide on how to price them.

@ligametis Год назад

Who cares about 3D versions? They are worse

@beemrmem3 Год назад

@@ligametis no

@g45h96 Год назад

I'd love a 7900 or 7950x3D considering how the performance has been proven.

@g45h96 Год назад

@@ligametis did you literally not watch the video?

@ligametis Год назад

@@g45h96 I watched. 3D version is useless. It cost more and performed worse in productivity. And who really cares if you get 200 or 240fps on the best GPU. In realistic scenario GPU will bottleneck way earlier than cpu

@bobbyshaftoe Год назад

Have you looked into the "extra-thick" lid heat transfer problem? Apparently direct cooling and lid shaving are the way to get high 'all core' speeds reliably..

@josepramoncodinagarcia-and8162 Год назад

It's great that you do a lifesciences benchmark. Tasks like molecular docking require a lot of power

@WilliamBoothClibborn Год назад

I love how complete this review is. All the information for most applications! Having benchmarks for scientific computing or ML could be interesting?

@dirg3music Год назад

Most likely, I have a feeling these will undervolt really well, Ryzen usually does in my experience.

@DailyCorvid Год назад

@@dirg3music Using AMD software you can do an automatic undervolt or overclock, which usually cuts power draw by a third or increases performance by 15% respectively.

@dirg3music Год назад

@@DailyCorvid yeah eco mode in ryzen master is pretty effective for lowering power draw, I'm sure if you really dial it in like 1usmus you can get some bonkers efficiency and/or performance improvements too. I think it's easy to get caught up in the way cpus/gpus are configured out of the box but in reality you can quite often dial things back and end up with an even better product if you're willing to take the time to get under the hood.

@outka5tz Год назад

I went out on a limb and upgraded my 2nd gen ryzen 5 to a 5800x3d on launch day and this video has made me happy 🤣

@starrims Год назад

I’m also thinking what to do!

@dtrjones Год назад

The 5800x3d is starting to suffer though when paired with top-tier GPUs like a 4090, checkout LTT 13900K review goes into more details. However, I imagine you bought this for MSFS and that gives fantastic performance, probably the best in that sim.

@outka5tz Год назад

@@dtrjones fortunately I don't have to worry about its performance with top tier GPUs because I'll never be able to buy one lol. I play a bit of everything, never got msfs though.

@rogercarlsson8679 Год назад

I experienced the issue with bent pins on the motherboard when I was going mount a i5-12400. Only 1 or 2 pins there affected out of 1700. The dealer sent the motherboard to Asia for repair. 6 months later I got my money back. I don't understand how this could have happened as I was extremely careful then mounting the processor.

@CB-zs9ov Год назад

Hora de buscar comentarios en español

@eriatarka1983 Год назад

I have a feeling my 5800X & RTX 3070 combo is going to hold me over for quite a few years.

@Finckelstein Год назад

Why wouldn't it? It's an amazing mid-range budget combo. They're supposed to hold for a few years. Even my 5800h/3070 Laptop is going to hold for years to come. Upgrading every other year is economically and ecologically unfeasbible.

@Terepin64 Год назад

The low VRAM is a limitation even in some of today's games. And it'll get only worse with time.

@ChrisGreeceChris Год назад

YEAP no need to upgrade!

@superblitz2274 Год назад

@@Finckelstein man in what world is 5800x 3070 "budget" lmao

@Aaron14LifeZZZ Год назад

@@superblitz2274 lol i was like wth is the guy talking about, thats high end

@MIBxSpartan Год назад

I want to see a video on how different DDR5 speed effects performance now. Been hearing 6000 MHz is the sweet spot but does that mean it’s pointless to get faster ram?

@luk4s195 Год назад

for games there is at least no difference between 6000 and 6400. and everything beyond is way too expensive for only measurable gain

@ChristianBrugger Год назад

Also higher speeds only increase the memory bandwidth, not the latency. And that bandwidth is not very useful in games, which fully use only a few of the cores.

@CRneu Год назад

ram speeds aren't really impactful on everyday life. it's one aspect you really shouldn't focus on too much. The price difference in speeds does not equate to the same difference in performance.

@benjaminoechsli1941 Год назад

I don't know. Steve at Hardware Unboxed found a 7% uplift in performance from using 6400. I think it may depend on your chip.

@johnnypopstar Год назад

Hardware Unboxed dove in to that in their video today, have a look there

@HyperScorpio8688 Год назад

I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money that the 3D V-cache processors are all ready to launch, and only wait for Raptor Lake to launch. If it'sonly gonna be half as mpressive an uplift as it was on the 5800X3D, and Raptor Lake only brings 5-10% extra performance... That'd be sweet

@ahartakpower Год назад

can someone give me tips plesse? I'm still using amd fx 8350x with 1070 should i go for amd 7x series and rtx 4k? or just go for 5x series and rtx 3k?

@VilasNil Год назад

11:25 How is higher power consumption under load better? Shouldn't it be the other way around? I could be mistaken though

@SkyyMi Год назад

Fantastic coverage on the new lineup. Thank you. It feels really good to see some competition again between Rlue and Red.

@XxFayssalxX Год назад

The thumbnail is kinda klickbaity tho

@666MaRius9991 Год назад

@@XxFayssalxX it is what it is lol they gotta pay their staff

@scrubscrub4492 Год назад

Rlue

@bingbing3464 Год назад

@@XxFayssalxX how so? Getting beaten by its previous gen in gaming and by thread counts almost equal to intel's 12th gen in productivity. Intel's 13th gen i9 will have equal thread count with the 7950X so the current productivity crown may not last.

@JrPlays Год назад

For the first time in my life from making my way up the ladder I’ve hit the purchase on the 7950x as my gaming station is also my primary workstation. Excited as all heck

@julians2k917 Год назад

How is it? Im also using my pc for work and gaming. Still running 9900k. Been thinking to get an new rtx4000 or building a new system with the 7950x

@JrPlays Год назад

@@julians2k917 the life of my vms being able to have basically the computing power of my original pc has never been better. I’m currently running jt with my 3070, I don’t play too demanding games to see a reason to go to 4000 series yet. But the cpu was definitely worry it Edit if you want to see the beginnings of my RU-vid channel work see it at the channel @codewithj3625

@julians2k917 Год назад

@@JrPlays Thx! im looking into it too but maybe i will just upgrade to a 4090 for now because i mostly need gpu power for my work and wait for the 7000xd to release.

@xDLiLi1337 Год назад

7950x is overkill for gaming... Buy a 7600x and get a better graphics card

@ncjim Год назад

Why would you do that? Wait 8 months and get the 7800x3d for gaming. Itll blow every game out of the water

@slaik3088 Год назад

So if I game on my workstation that I use to encode and edit for example videos, or render, this would be a fantastic apu to have? If I didn't want to be overclocking for lifht gaming, is it possible to have it not be running at 95c, or is that the factory setting?

@BigB-ch2ou Год назад

Now it’s time for their official GPU announcement!

@PyroBlonde7777 Год назад

@@Noah-lj2sg I hope lol

@LulaksHD Год назад

In the power consumption graph, I think the score is better when lower not higher (11:20)

@snintendog Год назад

Not in an Intel fanboys mind. /s Though good spot.

@uncleiroh6728 Год назад

AVX512 just adds up in terms of optimization. Even the standard C library will utlize it for copying memory / searching through memory / calculating the length of a string. It won't be much, but it will make even the weirdest of programs faster.

@rikudouray Год назад

I'm still rockin my 3 years old 3700x with x570 a!elite. Still gets the job done...

@THEMISOGYNISER Год назад

i love LGA sockets,no more fear of pulling the cpu cooler and grabbing the cpu with it

@woodroemitchell2848 Год назад

yooooo… I was so scared when this happened to me on my first time.

@khalilahd. Год назад

😂😂

@johnricang8791 Год назад

@@woodroemitchell2848 same lmao, I even cried because I dont know if its broken or something. My parents will surely get angry with me but thankfully, it still boots up. Lesson learned, dont use the pre applied thermal paste from the amd cooler AHHAHAHAHAH

@VigneshBalasubramaniam Год назад

I prefer PGA. It's easier to fix the pins.

@myPHPnotes Год назад

Plot twist. What if the stucked CPU drops on Motherboard pins? :P

@TheOmegaRiddler Год назад

By the time I see these upgrades, the prices will come down to where AM4 are now. I'll be sticking with my 5800X for now.

@tardvandecluntproductions1278 Год назад

I got the same chip, idk why anyone would hop over that fast. My I7 2600K lasted 9 years, I'm sure the 5800X will do fine for at least 8 years with gaming.

@Hawkywind Год назад

And quite honestly, If it did come to upgrading. the 5800X3D would be a better upgrade from say a 5600x(In my rig) value wise than swapping to Zen 4, buying new Mobo and RAM AND the CPU itself.

@gamingpriests Год назад

CPU's are very long lasting parts. I've never owned one for shorter than 5 years and I've never had a single issue in anything I needed to do with it. Buying a good CPU once every 5 or even 6 years is the way to go.

@TheOmegaRiddler Год назад

@@tardvandecluntproductions1278 Yeah, and as I said, prices for AM5 and DDR5 will have dropped to where AM4 is now when I need to build a new PC. The only upgrade I'm considering is the 5800X 3D

@eduardoarancibia169 Год назад

I'm happy with my 3800x

@Zeales Год назад

I use my computer for virtualization workloads too, besides gaming, and the E & P core thing going on with Intel chips basically breaks virtualization, forcing me to either switch to Xeon or choose AMD. Since $699 is significantly cheaper than even the cheapest Xeon with equal core count, the choice is fairly easy.

@peterconnell2496 Год назад

How did that work - did u waste the money u spent on an AL pc?

@Tyriama Год назад

I have waited for this info as I suspected the 5800x3D was going to punch hard. I have my 3600 on X570 that is ripe for an upgrade. 5800x3D looks extremely good for me since I wont even need new RAM and my waterblock fits.

@zubairalam2795 8 месяцев назад

So you dont have to change your x570?

@thanlan Год назад

The 5800x3D was a beast (for gamers atleast) just imagine the new 3d cpus that we know that are coming!

@CakePrincessCelestia Год назад

It still is and will be for quite some time I suppose... and even the non-3D is.

@spookyskellyskeleton609 Год назад

@@CakePrincessCelestia next year q1 that's soon bruh

@TheK9music Год назад

@@OC.TINYYY Source?

@spookyskellyskeleton609 Год назад

@@OC.TINYYY "doubt it" and yet to claim meteor lake will surely come out next year q2 . You know intel just missed its official gpu date?🃏

@goromir7093 Год назад

For me the 580x3d was like a gift by amd for all the people who wanted a final upgrade for their am4 platform Everyone can enjoy more performance, even if they want to upgrade to a new platform or not. It's a win win situation in my opinion

@vivago727 Год назад

At the one hand, yes, you can upgrade a b350 with ryzen 5800x3d for amazing gaming performance. But if you're like me and build a pc at the start of ryzen you probably still use the same gpu as back then. got a r5 1600 and a 1070ti. If i would get a 5800x3d i would leave so much performance on the table if i didn't upgrade my gpu as well. If you factor this in it's probably not worth it so it'd be better to wait for a ryzen 7000x3d cpu instead and upgrade the whole pc.

@torukmahtomahto409 Год назад

@@vivago727 you can upgrade to 5600 non x for 150 till 8000x3d and lower ddr5 prices for a nice bump

@Caseycallender Год назад

Yeah, that and it was a preview for what's to come when they release the AM5 X3D chips toward the end of the year 👀👀. Can't wait, these are the new sauce, Intel can still suuuuccckkkkk iiiittttt.

@tiestofalljays Год назад

In some ways, I regret getting a 5900X. Oh well, I'm GPU bound anyways haha.

@Altrop Год назад

I bought a 5800X3D last week and do not regret it at all after seeing this! I already had 32GB of premium RAM, all I did was swap out the CPU and I immediately noticed the 1% lows were 10x better than my previous Ryzen 5 3600. No more noticeable framedrops and I expect this CPU to last me until 2025. At that point I'll upgrade to a cheap AM5 system :) I heard AMD will release a 7800X3D in Q1-Q2 next year, than one will likely slay Intel in games, but I'm still happy with my purchase. I'll likely upgrade my 6700XT to an RDNA3 CARD for better 1440P performance and be set for a while.

@georgevana Год назад

I am in similar position you were. Sitting here with my R5 3600, thinking if I should upgrade to 5800X3D and 32gigs of premium RAM and wait for some nice AMD graphics card as currently I am still running my almost five years old 2070 from EVGA.

@tilapiadave3234 Год назад

5800X3D ,, WAY WAY WAY overpriced , super overhyped WASTE of money

@DrToonhattan Год назад

So I've got a first gen Ryzen 1800X from way back in 2017. What kind of performance improvements would I be looking at if I upgraded to a 7000 series Ryzen 9?

@cromefire_ Год назад

The boost in encoding in Handbrake (ffmpeg) might very well be AVX512, because basically every encoder supports AVX512

@jmhagle Год назад

Yeah, I think you are right, because 11900k was disappointing in a lot of benchmarks except in avx 512 workloads.

@Mixz1890 Год назад

Oof, I'd love to see some more tuned 7000 series comparisons. Like with the 5000 series and pbo2.0 negative curve offsets you could get more performance for less power. I feel like additional 10% could be squeezed out of theese

@breakhart Год назад

I wonder why the heck AMD doing, they done very good at LGA model in Threadripper or Epyc.

@ChrisHarmon1 Год назад

The bent pins on CPU thing was always ridiculous to me as they were much stronger then Intels mobo pins which ANY placement of CPU at an angle or off center meant pins could be damaged on a mobo that are a lot harder to straighten as they don't stick straight up but a weird angle that means they could be bent in complex ways VS a straight pin.

@Marco_Onyxheart Год назад

If you run these in eco mode, they're barely any slower but just want 65W. These CPUs have excellent performance per watt. They're just not that great outside of eco mode (although still decent).

@jbasasa Год назад

I thought I was the only one. Me too sometimes I just wanted to put only 65W only all the time but I think AMD should thought of that

@ffwast Год назад

Gotta crank up the power draw for those release review benchmarks!

@RicochetForce Год назад

These REALLY should run out of the box in Eco Mode, with an option to "blow the doors off". Because CPUs that require a damn ND-15 for regular operation, and the higher tier pair requiring AIOs is dumb as fuck.

@b34k97 Год назад

Felling much better about trading my 5900x for a 5800x3D (main games are Star Citizen and Flight Simulator). Will definitely be waiting for the x3D variants for the 7000 series before upgrading.

@eaglemmoomin_418 Год назад

Yup bought my 5800X3D for Star Citizen. Made an enormous difference. Well worth the money I dropped on it even though I had to buy a CPU watercooler for it on top of the CPU.

@weasle2904 Год назад

@@eaglemmoomin_418 I have a single tower 120mm air cooler, I just do -30 CO offset and it runs very cool. AMD seems to have binned the 5800x3d really good and it undervolts like a boss

@steveredstone1711 Год назад

Literally came here from RSI website.

@1981AdamGs Год назад

I debated and debated over upgrading from the 3700x to the 5900x or the 5800x3d. I settled on the 5900x for the extra cores. Which come in handy for some of the work I do. But it was a tough decision. That 5800x3d is no joke.

@Ryan-re1rs Год назад

@@eaglemmoomin_418 a 58003d isn't much or any better then a 5900 in most games..

@midnightshade32 Год назад

Are these apus the same tech as in steamdeck or ps5? (For the graphics side)

@sebbosebbo9794 Год назад

the Blender benchmark...please name the versions and test and name the engine resolution settings you choose.. the B3d community would love it... blender have pre render engine setup button for settings where you can choose options for quality or fast render and thats helps to choose fast the right settings... and that render window please choose internal Editor window for render in the blender option settings not a extra open render window... thx...

@johndoh5182 Год назад

Why didn't you all talk about ECO mode? I saw some stats on it and it's VERY impressive. Dropping down to 105W TDP which drops power consumption by a substantial amount but performance barely drops??

@burretploof Год назад

Well, let's see if they do a refresh with 3D Cache, then. I just hope that they manage to deliver some great GPUs soon. Not that their current ones are bad per se but it still seems like they're playing catch-up.

@knexfan0011 Год назад

iirc they have confirmed the Zen4 with 3D-Vcache, it's rumored to be shown at CES 2023.

@blazedyoda8608 Год назад

It’s gonna be hard for AMD Radeon to best the household name that is nvidia. Even if they squeeze out some decent price to performance and lower power consumption cards compared to the offerings from nvidia I don’t think they’re going to beat them and take the crown. Not yet anyways maybe in 5 years or so when they’ve ironed out all issues with drivers and they’ve got a robust ray tracing architecture just like nvidia have.

@dilbophagginz Год назад

@@blazedyoda8608 Maybe not in marketshare, but in terms of having the better product, they definitely have an opportunity to beat Nvidia this year.

@transient_ Год назад

The rumors I heard say they could be worse than the 4090 in raytracing. How much worse? Idk, its all hearsay at this point. And then there's DLSS 3.0. If Nvidia's claims are something to trust it's pretty good. Although ,I've heard that there might be more artifacts than with DLSS 2. Time will tell.

@HapPawhere Год назад

@@dilbophagginz They just need to optimize their gpu driver for Directx & opengl optimze, because my amd gpu worst on minecraft than gt 1030 lol

@wellmas 11 месяцев назад

Hello. I am looking to build my second computer for audio recording. I built an i5 around 8 years ago. It does OK but is only a 3.4 Ghz and limited. I am wanting to get the Ryzen 7 7700x (First AMD Build). I am mating this with the MSI PROX670 Motherboard and toping it off with 64 gigs of RAM. Is this a good combo for the application? I will be running the stock graphics in the CPU as my DAW doesn't require much for graphics. Thanks for any input.

@NiclasHorn Год назад

to with GPU prices and so on. i think its nice to have a GPU core for backup situations in the CPU. so if you need to send your Nvidia or AMD card for warrenty or look for a new GPU but try to find the cheapest one out there on the marker or used market. its nice to have that little sucker to give you at least picture during the time you hunt for the card you want, need and can afford.

@allenwarfield Год назад

My first build had a AMD A6 APU, I'm glad to see how far theyve come in the past decade

@tazgamerplays Год назад

One of my favorite builds had an amd k6-2 450. It was a very stable build back then.

@ElVid Год назад

i made the right decision to buy the 5800x3d and not waiting for am5, i was always suspicius when amd did not talk about their own latest linupe

@ElVid Год назад

@Steve Sherman well i had 32 gb of ddr4 ram and a 3700x already, buying a new mainboard and ddr5 was a bit questionable. this will be my last cpu upgrade for this console gen probably

@Sinesterr Год назад

its not as bad as this review made it out, just look at other reviews and you see that the 7600x is faster tan the 5800x3D plenty of times

@angrycupra8636 Год назад

Im stuck on what to do, I have an i7 7800 and a b360-g gaming motherboard with some DDR4 ram, and a RTX 3070.. a few new games that have come out and are coming out i'm meeting the "recommended" hardware.. well I like to game on ultra on everything I play.. so I kinda need to upgrade.. torn between team blue and team red the difference being way more cost for team blue. tough one..