Be sure to report spam if you see it, its an ongoing issue. Let us know your thoughts in the comments - are you buying a new CPU this year? moving from Intel to AMD or upgrading? let us know. And if you missed yesterday's 9900X review, it's over here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sstkBcZdIgI.html
I need to agree with you on this ones after digesting yesterday reviews from others. If you are not doing any rendering or compute over on Linux, then the price is not justified. If you remember well, AMD dropped their price on their x series mere weeks after the release of Zen 4 in 2022. We might see the pattern repeating itself.
I believe the 9000 series can run the RPCS3 emulator significantly better because of full AVX 512 support which the 7000 series didn't have, but someone has to confirm this with testing
Good content all week Leo and KG, thanks for the hard work! I am sticking with my 7800 for the time being - nothing has made me want to move yet, maybe the 9800X3D will!
Can I just put out a 'good job leo' here, after so much drama and trending nonsense to get hits, I have admired the content Level1Techs, Kitguru and Anandtech have put out. Good old values!
About time someone stood in it's corner rather than slating it. Yes, we all know it's best in productivity, but that doesn't discount it's potential in games. LOTS of people still use 1440p, so not having almost 300fps as one would with something like the 7800x3D isn't going to be a massive loss (if any). You're still going to get over 100FPS in 4K games, so what's there to complain about? You're literally getting best of both worlds.
@JynxedKoma Thank you so much for recognizing the Zen 12core variants are very good balance/value. I still currently am a proud 3900X owner since it released and even though $ drops are inevitable, on launch imo the 9900X is *only* one that has decent $ for wat ur getting perf./value wise.
The 14900k still does well in the tests - I am very very interested to see what Intel do in the coming months with their new releases - its almost feeling like a last chance for them now
Who is gonna buy Intel? I bought Intel for 20+ years and I'm not buying anything they sell ever again. So, who is gonna buy the new Intel chips if lifetime users refuse to buy?
So much click bait stuff, like linus doing ‘STOP INTELS dead’ and GN and HUB releasing so many videos just beating a dead horse the other way. Thanks Leo and thanks Wendell and thanks Anandtech
Thanks for all the work and efforts put into this, been a busy few weeks for everyone. Waiting for intel launches soon, then 3D processors. will wait as you advised yesterday
9900x is the sweet spot so far, but none of these are giving you what the 3D range does - AMD need to update this range but will not do it too quickly to cannibalise sales - need to wait people !
9900x is the one I like the most, has plenty of cores for a variety of tasks, and hits a decent price point. This 9950x feels like a cheap threadripper to me, which in itself might target an audience!
7950X3D results in these graphs should be all people need to see to wait for new 3D parts coming soon. Zen 5 hasnt overly impressed me, but its not been terrible regardless of the gang mentality - the 9900x is a pretty good processor overall for all round use if you have a budget of £500. Leo when are you doing some new motherboard tests? id love to get some info on high bandwidth memory support
16 core Zen 5 for £610 seems not bad to me, but I spend a lot of money on a new CPU every 2 years so I am probably the target market for this, the 9900X seems to be much cooler running however, so its tempting to upgrade my 12th Gen Intel now
The curve software looks like a great move forward for customers - takes all the hassle out of tuning the CPU for you. I wonder if people still tweak the CPU’s themselves, I stopped that years ago
Even after half of intel's CPUs started crashing and needed to be "patched"... Hate to break it to you, but AMD has much better architecture over intel... Truth hurts .. lol...
it's interesting you are the first person to show the 9950x stock as my experience, also getting around the same score in CB23 at stock / auto but all the reviews seems to claim it getting 44.000, and 2300 in CB24, which for some reason mine just fails at, its running slower than my old 7950x and I have no idea why. everything looks fine, good temps, bios and so on, nothing looks wrong but it just doesn't perform as many reviews claim
Thankfully I have no issue waiting a long time, so the price is not that bothersome. It is very good news indeed to see efficiency *gains* from overclocking here. I only hope the 3D equivalent won't reach a $1000 tag.
I'm specifically waiting for the 9950X3D... Rumor has it that it will be released pretty soon... No way in hell will I go with Intel after 50% of their CPUs started crashing and needed to be "patched"... AMD has the better architecture, but the intel fan boys would rather die than admit it... 🤣
They're not as good as they should be is the issue. They should completely stomp 14th gen and they don't. They beat it, but they don't stomp. That being said, I bet they'll last longer than 6 months unlike my 13900k.
With these prices in mind ( tax included), what would you pick for gaming, and casual 3D modeling ? 9950X = 800€, 7950X = 620€, 9900X = 560€, 7900X = 430€. I planned to have single 34"inch QHD IPS 1440p monitor, 64GB ram, and possibly pair with 4070, or 4080 GPU. ❤
What is amazing is that for gaming the 9600X is an absolute monster. Beating out newer chips with more cores. I had one for a while (gave it to my daughter) and it got to 6.02 Ghz under load with temps around the mid 70's I might wait for the X3d or the inevitable price cuts and code updates. The last gen had price cuts 8 weeks after launch.
Considering TR prices I think there will be a decent audience who want/need as many fast cores as they can get but don't want to spend Threadripper money if they don't need the PCIE lanes. 9900X does seem to be the sweet spot until X3D chips launch for most though.
I might try linux myself after seeing wendells latest video on this - thanks Leo and wendell for the good reviews without nonsense and clickbait garbage. I wish youtube wouldnt promote that crap
The real winner in cpu race is arm with apple m4 as champion It has 27 percent single core improvement over m3 and beat all arm and x86 CPU in single core score!!!
I am behind on cpus since they are moving so fast. I'll take a5950x for the backup machine and a 9950x for the main machine. Have solar at the house so power draw is not high on my list. Good thing these things don't cause weight gain..
Going with the 9950X, as you mentioned, its much cheaper than a Threadripper, and already faster than the low end Threadripper CPUs. Just because its not the fastest gaming CPU in the world, does not make it useless for gaming (some RU-vid reviewers are painting it that way).
After seeing this review I really impressed about the 5950x (that I would change too) 130W of pure efficiency, nice to see AMD moving back to efficiency again, sad to see that strange performance. I really think that something is weird and probably we will see a performance uplift soon. Probably not huge, but at least to put it above the previous 7950X in any scenanario as should be. That said, grat review as always, point out the bad of it but without riding the horse of blaming/hate for more views ❤
The video is very detailed but I didn't understand one thing. The question of consumption and temperatures. The 7xxx generation (not 3d) had obvious issues with temperatures. Whatever heatsink you put on they were always at 95 degrees. How do these behave? If one wanted to make a workstation (particularly for blenders) how should one dissipate it and what should one expect? Above all, would it be manageable with air? Maybe with a peerless assassin?
Buying a new CPU in the coming months and going AMD rather than Intel due to their 13th and 14th gen fiasco. Due to budget constraints and non-gaming will be probably going with 7700x. I certainly can not afford $500 to $700 CAD +12% taxes for 9700x - 9900x. The poor gaming performance may be a Windows11 Adminstrator account issue per HUB video but that does not affect me
14900k was the one I wanted, but I hear intel are releasing a new range of CPUs soon. might hang fire till end of the year and make do with my old 11th gen system
