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American battery company reveals production ready 1000 Mile EV Battery
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@brucemoller7012 7 месяцев назад

Sounds awesome. a few years ago we had a Peugeot 406 turbo diesel with a range of 1550km from 60 litres. We often did 1500km so I’m unsure what it could really do. In Queensland a long range is often handy.

@timothykeith1367 7 месяцев назад

Sam's latest miracle battery of the week!

@malcolmrickarby2313 7 месяцев назад

Looking better than the usual game changer 👍🏽😊

@lesliecarter4295 7 месяцев назад

Small semi solid state would be ideal for PHEV’s .

@CastleKnight7 7 месяцев назад

🤣 We’re all still waiting for these 1,000 mile, 5 min charge time cars.

@ian2487 7 месяцев назад

The million mile battery is coming next week. 😂

@robertfonovic3551 7 месяцев назад

@@lesliecarter4295PHEV? Is that another LGBTQ+ addition? Apparently Viagra can assist with small semi solid states.

@patrickweaver1105 7 месяцев назад

If it was production ready it wouldn't be on RU-vid trying to scrounge up interest. It would be in production. So what's the problem?

@Ludak021 7 месяцев назад

it's production ready, if someone is willing to buy them out or invest billions in it (and end up loosing that and more)

@mikewa2 7 месяцев назад

This is future, coming to you in near future

@patrickweaver1105 7 месяцев назад

@@mikewa2 Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I love ya Tomorrow! You're always A day A way!🙂

@billthebuilder1579 7 месяцев назад

I have 90,000 mile on my Sept 30, 2021 Model Y Long Range. I currently drive 40,000 miles per year. I expect to get at least 400,000 miles on this battery or 10 years. At the time the battery replacement technology should be pretty well developed and Tesla will have a good income stream replacing batteries. The cost should be about $5000 and the current range of 300 miles should be extended to 500 miles with a software update to optimize the car for the replacement battery. The new battery will get 1 million plus miles. 10 year. financing on new cars is coming to match the payment period with the economy value of the car.

@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 7 месяцев назад

That's similar to my experience too. My EV is 5 years old, only 97,000 km but zero range loss, none at all...thanks to the 3.5 kWh battery buffer in the Kia e-Niro. At some point the buffer will be used up and I will see a real world range loss..but I don't expect that to happen until the 150,000 - 200,000 km mark...by which time the car will be 10 years old. At 15 years?...who knows but even if the battery is down to 50% of its original range it will still have 225 km to play with and may be perfect as a cheap commute car/school run/second car. With none of that nasty vibrating lump of metal and oily bits in the front I suspect EVs will outlive ICE and stay useful for many years...This will become clear as the years roll by and it will change the whole economics of car ownership and financing.

@michaelwebsternz 7 месяцев назад

To get 1000 miles on a model 3 you need 250KWh pack (4 miles per kwh). At 350Wh/kg for the pack it's going to be a 715KG battery. That's 260KG heavier than the current Model 3 Battery at 454KG. For a 454KG battery using the 24M cells you'd be able to get a 158KWh pack, which would yield a range of approximately 635 miles per charge. This doesn't tell the entire story though as you'd have to look at the volumetric density as well. After 500 cycles that would likely reduce to 527 miles. The 500 cycle running distance would be 317K miles, not 500K miles. Charge curve and charge times are also important to consider with such a large battery and are traditionally not great for solid state cells.

@chrisbarron5861 7 месяцев назад

I think 4 miles/kWh is optimistic, at 70mph

@nickwinn7812 7 месяцев назад

317k miles is, more or less the life of the car, and the battery would still give 80% of it's original range (500 miles). I think most users would find that more than acceptable.

@chrisbarron5861 7 месяцев назад

@@nickwinn7812 @nickwinn7812 we still dont know what speed of travel that range is being quoted for. Theres a huge difference in range between travelling at 30/40mph, and traveling at 70/80mph

@grainfield77 5 месяцев назад

454KG battery pack is for the standard range or the long range new model 3?

@chrisbarron5861 5 месяцев назад

I don't think 4 miles/kWh is realistic for a steady 70-80mph highway run. I use 3 to 3.5 times battery capacity (in kWh) to guesstimate highway range

@vals.3817 7 месяцев назад

Wish I had $10 for each revolutionary battery technology Sam revealed ,I'd be a wealthy man😅🤣😂surely one day it will happen however not very likely any time soon!

@SWR112 7 месяцев назад

Not any time soon - are we talking a few year or ten because the amount of money that has been flung at batteries since around 2018 is scary and just like phones, CPU’s, Ai these things with enough money and talent behind them start taking huge leap forwards . They wouldn’t believe the computing power of a relatively new PC system back ten years ago especially GPU’s if you described it. Battery tech for one or a few companies will be a golden ticket probably by the next five years.

@ghrosenb 7 месяцев назад

Has any field ever had more horseshit announcements than the battery field? Literally every day, someone somewhere announces a huge "breakthrough" in energy storage, never to be heard from again.

@dankitchen621 7 месяцев назад

We own a factory original Ram pick up with the Cummins diesel engine that has 1000 miles of range. It has a 50 gallon fuel tank and gets 20 to 22 Miles per gallon. It is wonderful on a road trip. I hope some of these new high density batteries become commercialized at some point to solve the range issues with EVs.

@Clyde-2055 7 месяцев назад

Those diesel VW Passats would go about 750 miles on a tank, and you’re right, it sure is nice to have that flexibility. My current vehicle will only do 520 AT BEST, and sometimes it flat-out pisses me off …

@tylergood1223 7 месяцев назад

Especially where the charging infrastructure is still in its infancy. I would love to do a 500+ mile trip and charge overnight at my destination. It would make the planning so much easier

@petermoran9561 7 месяцев назад

Sam, Thanks for your great reporting. Every breakthrough is important! Keep up the great work!

@koenraad4618 7 месяцев назад

Oh man, the Aptera with 24M batteries (semi solid electrodes), 2000 miles of range, absolutely amazing: only one recharge needed during a coast-to-coast USA trip. Such a combi can fast charge an incredible number of miles per minute, comparable with refueling gasoline.

@Phtang-phtang 7 месяцев назад

The main point is that weight is halved. That means that you can have the same power with half the weight so the range is actually higher

@harrisoncheyne8593 7 месяцев назад

Mike Zimmerman invented a solid state battery 7 years ago I wonder why no one's using it.

@fluxcapacitor 7 месяцев назад

Because soft-shorts ans hard-shorts from dendrite formation in the solid electrolyte plague the lifespan of SSBs. Eventually the research will overcome this one day and pave the way to the commercialisation of long-life, powerful solid state batteries.

@rogerdodger1790 6 месяцев назад

@fluxcapacitor "one day" being about 40 years time

@dr.x4050 7 месяцев назад

The Viking doesn't get the need for a 1000-mile range vehicle. The first application is towing, and others said a taxi service - even if convenient pull-through charging stations exist. At the same time, however, I don't see huge companies (CATL, BYD, Tesla, etc) buying these 400-500 Wh/kg batteries because they need to produce about 10 cells per second to meet a large factory demand.

@tyharris9994 7 месяцев назад

And all of us gig worker apartment dwellers don't have the time to spend our lunch hour every day at a commercial charging station.

@IgorPellinen 7 месяцев назад

Actually nearly every car owner needs 1k range at least in "travel mode". That's because you usually charging from 20 to 80 percent while driving, more is slow and less is anxious, so the 60% of thousand miles definitely couldn't be called as a redundant number.

@michaelwebsternz 7 месяцев назад

@@IgorPellinen Charge curve for these cells and maximum charging rate / charging time would be very important. Most solid state cells are not great at charging fast and the charge curves aren't great.

@stevehayward1854 7 месяцев назад

There has already been a taxi firm entirely using early Nissan Leaf's, taxis dont need a 1,000 mile battery

@Clint-stanley 7 месяцев назад

Good point that with this battery I can now tow my trailer a descent range.

@thomasbeach7436 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the heads up on this new battery. I looked up the company and they are getting the testing started soon. I drive from FL to IL and I just stop for fuel, food, and restroom breaks. It takes about 15 to 16 hours to get there. With this battery I could make it in about the same amount of time by only charging it about 25% a couple of times while I get food etc. The future is looking up! And this battery would work in airplanes too! Marvelous!

@gremlinfishing4286 7 месяцев назад

Don't hold your breath waiting for it to happen ,better off seeing if you can buy a magic wond ,

@ohger1 7 месяцев назад

It's about time there was a game changer in the EV industry!!!

@chrishubbard6140 7 месяцев назад

I believe if they made electric vehicles with 1000+ miles of range, it would greatly expand the number of people who want an EV. Lots of people just won’t switch until EV’s are a vast improvement over ice vehicles. My milestones are more range, 10 minute full charge, a built-out charging infrastructure with onsite sustainable energy production, no chance of a car fire or thermal runaway, and a 20+ year battery. You get these basics and you would have a highly desired,leaps and bounds type improvement over ice vehicles.

@CaptBill69 7 месяцев назад

Love hearing about ongoing innovations, and competition. I look forward to seeing the best dependable battery advances in EVs, ... that have their details dialed in for happy customers 🌠

@MrGMawson2438 7 месяцев назад

It will all come together soon cheers mate

@christopherhamilton5557 7 месяцев назад

I wish I had Sam’s enthusiasm after all the “new technology” that has never evolved. He always seems so pumped up on his videos! I guess that’s why I watch, he is entertaining! (I sure don’t understand all the tech talk…)

@allenemersonn1227 7 месяцев назад

It is being acknowledged that EV's are very heavy, easily twice the weight of and ICE vehicle. Moves are underway to tax the vehicles in some manner to pay for the additional damage to roadways, bridges, and overpasses. The weight of many EV's in on par with many smaller commercial trucks and will soon be taxed accordingly.

@astranc 7 месяцев назад

1000 miles of range shrinks in a Canadian winter to 580 miles and to 300 miles if you are towing

@davidbrayshaw3529 7 месяцев назад

That's not the only thing that shrinks in the Canadian winter. I'm baffled as to how your Prime Minister can be such a huge dick in those conditions.

@markfudger5267 7 месяцев назад

Nobody mentions the price. If the battery costs $800/kwh, then a 100kwh battery will cost $80,000 each. Then, you have still got to add in the cost of the car. Wake me up if someone says they can produce a lightweight battery for less than $100/kwh.

@stvybaby 7 месяцев назад

The NIO EV battery on demand swap stations overcome the "no charger at home" problem and range limitation.

@jamesallan158 7 месяцев назад

Brilliant as long as the rest of the car is good and the average man can afford them or maybe all roads and travel will only be available for our rich masters when are we all going to see an abundance of cheap renewable energy running through the grids in all countries lol

@photobobo 7 месяцев назад

Sam, battery capacity is measured in Watt-Hours not Watts.

@davidbrayshaw3529 7 месяцев назад

*EV channel, mate. We measure everything just the way we want, here. A decimal point here, a zero there... don't you worry about it. We've got it all under control. After you've been here for a while, you'll start to enjoy the freedom that you get from not having to conform to physics, maths and history. It's wonderful. Truly liberating.

@CJSmith-ky5bh 4 месяца назад

Understanding the real world experience (which you seem to have dismissed) is why 1000 miles becomes important. To fill up with petrol takes me 5 minutes. To get charge to get the same distance, means an hour of charging. That’s IF there’s a charger available (not broken, not all being used, other vehicles parked in them, etc etc etc). Add in towing, for an EV there is not a single charger available that you can drive thru, meaning you have to find a place for your trailer/van, uncouple, charge the car, go back to the trailer/van, reconnect, and finally you get to drive off again. Imagine doing this in the pouring rain, freezing cold, snow, 40C + temps. Or… you can just travel the full distance and charge overnight. Understanding these things will help your channel.

@Yutani1 4 месяца назад

Long term stocker holder. Let's go!

@scottconso 7 месяцев назад

How many minutes do they take to recharge? 20-80%

@dilvishpa5776 7 месяцев назад

Generally speaking, the higher the energy density, the more volatile and dangerous the battery becomes. It should be interesting to see what this battery does in practice.

@KimbleJKL 7 месяцев назад

Higher energy density doesn't significantly reduce kWh needed, only kg. You still need a large capacity battery for 1000 miles of range, it just makes it more compact and lighter so the battery will physically fit in a car.

@eleetgroupvideo 7 месяцев назад

this is the bestest game changer coming out of the US 😄

@andys5841 7 месяцев назад

Sorry but the energy density of batteries would have to be 30x better to power a jumbo jet without the entire mass of the plane being a battery, that's silly.

@yogamon 5 месяцев назад

Not really 500 wh/kg will be enough to make practical propellor airplanes albeit the range will still be about half of gas prop plane

@richardwatkins6725 7 месяцев назад

1000 Mile range is what's needed for a Taxi, MiniBus or similar business transport

@williamgidrewicz4775 7 месяцев назад

Maybe they develop a battery ray which is some sort of maser, saser and laser that taps into the Schumann Resonance for endless power draw!😮😊

@sgtbrown4273 7 месяцев назад

Folks, there are absolutely NO free lunches in physics.

@so_what_else_is_new 7 месяцев назад

Well, the sun seems a pretty free lunch to me 😁

@fourbypete 7 месяцев назад

So when will the Cybertruck get these packs? I won't be buying one untill there is a decent offroading EV. Off roaders need at least 10 hours of driving time for use in Australia's forests.

@jonathanlane8250 7 месяцев назад

I guess it'd be good to test it on big rig trucks.

@abbersj2935 7 месяцев назад

Range is important, but not the only factor, what about real world recharge time on anything other than a tesla fast charger?

@MrkBO8 7 месяцев назад

Charge time is the issue, range is fine but no one has four hours to wait for a charge

@turokforever007 7 месяцев назад

will it need a limo to fit the battery

@punditgi 7 месяцев назад

A thousand miles? How many kilometres is that, mate? 😮

@petertraveller6421 7 месяцев назад

140 kwh battery pack would be good for now. but if batteries get better over time, 400 kwh pack is even better, as long as price and weight don't go up.

@hammerfist8763 6 месяцев назад

Where is it written that high energy densities are impossible?

@RandyP-jr1ek 7 месяцев назад

I’ll take that type of battery for my super-bike, able to go 500 miles on a full charge and accelerate 0-60mph in under 3 seconds not breathing hard, and weighing in full up at 300 lbs. May never reach the scale of LFP batteries for cars, but who cares? These guys from MIT are not just blowing smoke! I can wait a few years for it to happen.

@JoeyBlogs007 7 месяцев назад

This is essential for US supply chain independence from China and it's national security.

@lepidoptera9337 7 месяцев назад

I believe it when I see it. :-)

@likeke9 7 месяцев назад

24M aren't making the 1000 mile claim on their web site.

@RWBHere 7 месяцев назад

If the battery had twice the energy density of an ordinary battery, then for the same battery mass you would have twice the capacity and twice the range. A ZE50 Zoe, driven sensibly, can surpass 300 miles from 52 kWh of available battery capacity. I do it regularly in Summer in England. (Ambient temperatures of 25° to 30°C) So a new style battery, with twice the energy density per kg would give 104 kWh to the driver, and range would be over 600 miles under similar Summer conditions. Adding more battery mass can only reduce efficiency, so a battery of twice the original mass and four times the original capacity might give 1,000 miles or so, but everything else in the car's drive chain would wear out more quickly. I would rather have a battery with a similar mass to the standard one. Anything more than 600 miles in Britain would not really make much sense. There is a very good reason why UK Diesel cars would struggle to drive for more than 750 to 800 miles on a tankful of dinosaur juice.

@richardereed9205 7 месяцев назад

A 1C charge/discharge rate is hardly adequate for a car battery. A much better solution is the lithium/aramid/sulfur battery with a 1500 mile range and a 3C charge/discharge rate and 700 cycles.

@stormsj 7 месяцев назад

An ICE car has no use for 1000 miles of range cause you can add 200-300 miles in 1 minute probably on model 3 level efficiency ice car. To get EVs to spread to all buyers we need the daily commute EV experience on a road trip. 1000 miles is all day range and only charging over night. This would also help the complication of charging speeds degrading battery and how those speeds are harder to accommodate on the grid than overnight charging.

@Carl_in_AZ 6 месяцев назад

🔌🔌A Petro supercar only needs 30 miles of range. This is to cover a trip from the house to the restaurant and back so it is parked out front by the valet.🔌🔌

@sirifail4499 7 месяцев назад

Sam, do the math on the 747 of your dreams. A 747, over a ten hour flight, burns about 36,000 of jet-a which weighs in at 250,000 pounds! The maximum payload is about 300,000 pounds. Take away the 250,000 pounds of fuel, and you’ve got enough carrying capacity for 500,000 pounds of battery - which will get you about 1/20th of the distance - with ZERO payload capacity. You’re going to need batteries that have about 50 times the energy density of today’s best batteries to make it work.

@NoOne-ze7fv 7 месяцев назад

I will believe it when I see it. Still don’t understand why with all this great technology we can’t get way better results out of ICEs as the infrastructure for gasoline power is already in place?

@Lord.Kiltridge 7 месяцев назад

Looking for a vehicle with enough range to permit someone to drive to work and back 5 days a week during a Canadian winter with only 8 hours of type one charging per weeknight, plus two times 12 hours on weekends.

@13thbiosphere 7 месяцев назад

If they put it in a model 3 then I believe it

@carlm7764 7 месяцев назад

"If" this is real, let's say you charge to 80% to maximize battery life, then -20% at least for cold weather environments makes about 640 mile range. Something that would actually work in Canada....never mind trucks who desperately needs a more power for towing.

@RexAlfieLee 7 месяцев назад

Sam, come on dude! You live in Australia. We need vehicles that can travel a very long distance.

@jaimeortega4940 7 месяцев назад

Do I smell a "Pump-N-Dump" in our future?

@saehian 7 месяцев назад

BYD batteries license to GM and Ford.

@muratoz2931 7 месяцев назад

Tesla needs to pull out the check book and buy these guys today, just like they did with Maxcell Tech.

@laydownlays 7 месяцев назад

The problem is the price. Can ordinary people afford them....

@peterle987 7 месяцев назад

1C discharge will not fit to Supercars and 1C charge says 1h waiting on the charger.... we will see

@stprGG 7 месяцев назад

FYI, Volkswagen is holding 25% in this company's shares

@nicholasdalessandro1958 7 месяцев назад

NIO already has one

@enriquemino9963 4 месяца назад

60 Kwhr and you get 1000 miles how, the typical ev gets 29.5 kwhr per 100 miles, then for a 1000 mile driving range you need 295 to 305 kw-hr

@celiacimino1804 7 месяцев назад

To get a 1000 Mi range in that Tesla you need 400 kilowatt hours not 100 KW hours

@bsaxman2012 7 месяцев назад

Game changuh!

@litestuffllc7249 7 месяцев назад

What does "production ready" really mean? - it obviously means they aren't making this cell; just another empty promise. Is the 4680 cell production ready yet?

@lkrnpk 7 месяцев назад

What does 4680 have to do with this, completely different company

@litestuffllc7249 7 месяцев назад

@@lkrnpk The 4680 is a failure. You hear about all these high tech batteries so why can't anyone actually make them? Because what looks easy on paper proves to be a giant headache.

@mikemotorbike4283 7 месяцев назад

he says this battery "just needs funding" for production.

@litestuffllc7249 7 месяцев назад

@@mikemotorbike4283 right and there are a couple dozen others saying they have the best battery so someone has to bet billions on one or the other and if they lose to a better tech they lost their investment. This is mostly why no one is going to make that bet particularly in a down economy. What they really want is public funding so they have no risk and get all the gain if the project is successful.

@lkrnpk 7 месяцев назад

Just because one thing is a failure, another thing may not be a failure and honestly 4680 wasn't even that big of a deal@@litestuffllc7249

@aurelion3 7 месяцев назад

Who needs 1k? Who would say no i would love to charge every two-three days instead of twice per month?

@Critical_Stinking 7 месяцев назад

I would never get on an electric plane. No chance.

@jimsouthlondon7061 7 месяцев назад

Put you travel on an electric conveyer belt in the airport

@Critical_Stinking 7 месяцев назад

@@jimsouthlondon7061 they're not battery powered, mate. Not comparable.

@davidbrayshaw3529 7 месяцев назад

I had a friend who said the same thing about an electric chair. We used to call him "sparky". He had red hair and a propensity for fighting. Anyway......

@mperlatti 6 месяцев назад

They say a lot of things… Stay skeptical

@robincollis6349 7 месяцев назад

Its production ready when its being produced until then its a pipe dream just like every other state of the art battery tech that still uses lithium and those that dont for that matter there all in theory and until there in a vehicle they wont know as demand on an electric motor moving 2.5t up a hill against the wind with an acceleration rate of say 8seconds to 100km/h isnt the same as an electric load in a lab

@labradoolepapa 7 месяцев назад

New flying anti gravity cars production ready, it will just take 10 years to actually put into production, but we are "production ready" PROVE ME WRONG

@chuckoster8221 7 месяцев назад

Why don’t they just get Scotty,from the Enterprise,to beam down some dilithium crystalsJob done.

@andrew20146 7 месяцев назад

The thing is, there is no such thing as a 1000 mile battery. It's all a matter of the volumetric and gravimetric energy density, and how many kwh you can fit in a typical EV pack volume and pack weight envelope. So, I am completely baffled by your comment that a 600 mi range pack would be a 60 kwh battery pack. That's just wrong. For a Model 3 to get 600 mi on 60 kwh, it would need to have an efficiency of 100 wh per mi (60,000 wh/600 mi). The Model 3 gets about 225 wh per mi. To get 600 mi range at that efficiency, you need 135 kwh pack, assuming that this battery pack doesn't weigh any more than the current 80 kwh pack (which would hurt efficiency requiring an even bigger pack). There is no magic battery technology that will get a Model 3 to go 600 mi on 60kwh.

@beaconterraoneonline 7 месяцев назад

Price and charge time is most important, not range.

@Myrslokstok 7 месяцев назад

Price Chargetime Safety Weight Range Eco Cold climate Cycellifes Degredation rate etc... Half prize half chargetime, would go a realy long way if also safe. From their any moore great improvements would be hard.

@Boomtendo4tw 7 месяцев назад

Would be like 800lbs for a 123kw pack

@mehditarabi4709 4 месяца назад

What about $ampx

@TranceMasterJack 7 месяцев назад

Skeptical

@SlotHits777 7 месяцев назад

1000 mile would not be ideal, what this does do is allow smaller/lighter battery and weight reduction is good for ev range and less wear on road/tires too

@andrewlindell8626 7 месяцев назад

None of this stuff will actually come into the market for like decades

@paddyodoors2757 7 месяцев назад

No one cares about range in a supercar, its more important it doesnt overheat when driven hard. A luxury suv would be more realistic at that price.

@bruceellenburg429 7 месяцев назад

If it is successful, then a battery company will buy the patent and then burn the blueprints No way I'll ever get in an electric airplane

@Arjan_2 7 месяцев назад

Teslas use approximately 14 kWh / 100 km. Let’s assume lighter batteries would bring this down to 10 kWh / 100 km. A 100 kWh battery would therefore give a 1000 km range: not 1000 miles. 🥱

@dwurry1 7 месяцев назад

"production ready" and "early results show" is an incongruous statement.

@mikemotorbike4283 7 месяцев назад

and "just need funding"

@CastleKnight7 7 месяцев назад

And “yet to get off the drawing board”

@alexandruilea915 7 месяцев назад

@@mikemotorbike4283the electric airplanes need funding.

@looncraz 7 месяцев назад

No it's not, it's common in technology due to the developmental process. Design, Proof of Concept, Redesign, Proof of Concept, Prototype, Production Sample, Risk Production, Full Production. They're currently between production sampling and risk production as I understand their progress. They may not have the funds or customer base to move to move to risk production or full production.

@MarcDunivan 7 месяцев назад

@@mikemotorbike4283 Maybe QS or SLDP can act as a SPAC and acquire 24M Technologies. 😆😆

@tyharris9994 7 месяцев назад

Great. Now put 2 of them in an F150 so I can actually tow or haul things and sell it to me for under 60K. I'll buy one and so would half of Texas.

@CycoWarriorx 7 месяцев назад

😂😂😂😂 Right!!!!

@josephjones4293 7 месяцев назад

I think you picked the wrong state…

@tyharris9994 7 месяцев назад

@@josephjones4293 Tell me then which state has a plan for every person who lives in an apartment to have their own overnight charging spot. EV's are not feasible for half the country who are renters just on that basis alone. Then you add in the lack of range in towing and hauling for trucks and commercial vehicles and a lack of realistic charging options for high-mileage drivers like rideshare and food delivery who also live in apartments for the most part. Drastically increasing the range or charging speed are the ONLY way to overcome the lack of charging infrastructure that will never be sufficient for these people. Thousand mile range and/or 5 minute charging or this will not happen. I had a Chevy Bolt for 6 months. Traded it in on a 50mpg hybrid because it was more of a hassle than the gas savings was worth.

@TheEvilmooseofdoom 7 месяцев назад

@@tyharris9994 Why is charging a state responsibility? Does the state build gas stations?

@blipco5 7 месяцев назад

You can have texas. We'll be happy to walk you off.

@mountainmantesla4395 7 месяцев назад

They get 340 miles out of a 75KWH battery. Not sure how a 100KWH would give 3X the range.

@Myrslokstok 7 месяцев назад

Maybee lighter but I wouldn't bet that it works 😂

@huckthat 7 месяцев назад

Right, for a model Y Long Range, 340 miles / 75 KWh is 4.5 miles per KWh, so a 100KWh battery would get 450 miles (assuming the weight is the same, but it isn’t since a model Y LR pack weight is 771Kg, and theoretically this battery would be closer to 300Kg since it has a much better gravimetric energy density (which is the REAL STORY HERE). ** these Tesla numbers are likely off by a bit, just did google research … 😅

@jpxxx991 7 месяцев назад

With 391 watts pr kg density a 100 kw battery would be around 400 kg and then some for the battery casing. 400 kg for 100 kw battery is good. A little step forward.

@Rick_Cavallaro 7 месяцев назад

>> They get 340 miles out of a 75KWH These new batteries aren't even using KWH's. That's so last week! Now they just use KW's.

@michaelwebsternz 7 месяцев назад

It doesn't the math / claims don't add up. Model 3 only does 4 miles per KWh with the new refresh version. Volumetric density also matters, not just the weight. The battery required to do 1000 miles is still much heavier than the current Model 3 pack.

@rodneyblackwell7477 7 месяцев назад

And Sam's magic battery of the week award goes to...

@vinay7397 7 месяцев назад

He hasn't mentioned the name of the company 😅

@SWR112 7 месяцев назад

@@vinay7397Its 24M and it’s a massive company.

@travisjazzbo3490 7 месяцев назад

@@vinay7397 24M Technologies - He did say it and it was on the box straight off. Based in Cambridge, MA

@AnthonyJMendoza-f7i 7 месяцев назад

@@vinay7397 24M

@Ludak021 7 месяцев назад

@@vinay7397 He did, 24M. @1:30

@ronan4681 7 месяцев назад

Landcruiser with long range tank gets close to 1000 miles, and when your working in remote Australia it is sometimes needed.

@nshon7 7 месяцев назад

That is one reason why ICE will never go away, the other being extreme weather. Having said that, 95% of journies are below 30 miles

@Spruce_Goose 7 месяцев назад

They will go away if Petrol/Gas is $10 a Litre. People will find a way to make do. Worse case, unfold a solar canopy and charge off that.

@donaldduck5731 7 месяцев назад

This is where eFuel has a future, and eFuel PHEV's, or even with eFuel fuel cell PHEVs. When eFuel can be made for comparable costs as fossil fuels can be produced there will be a massive market for it. I don't see the future as just EV's which is not a problem, C02 and pollution is the problem, not efficiency or energy/fuel type.

@oldbloke204 7 месяцев назад

@@Spruce_Goose And how long do you think a solar canopy will take to charge an EV battery?

@pin65371 7 месяцев назад

@@nshon7 yup you need a lot of diesel vehicles to mine the materials to make the batteries..

@jvin248 7 месяцев назад

EV: At 3:40 you reminded me of an old joke: first guy is wearily lugging two heavy suitcases across the airport, second guy asks hey do you have the time, first guy sets his luggage down with a thump and pushes back his sleeve, second guy says holy cow that is an amazing watch you have, first guy says yeah it does this this and that plus these other things, second guy says hey, can I buy that cool watch from you, sure says the first, second guy is walking away with the watch after exchanging cash and the first guy yells after him after he lifts up his two suitcases: hey, don't forget the batteries!

@philterzian9162 7 месяцев назад

A “60 kWh battery” of any type will give the same range. So I think what you meant to say is that with this new tech a bigger kWh battery could fit in the same size/weight as a formerly lower kWh space?

@patrickmckowen2999 7 месяцев назад

Wearing my Hogwarts wrobe and waving my wand - RIDICULOUS!

@timogronroos4642 7 месяцев назад

The smaller you make this battery, the more critical the 500 cycles get. A 60 kWh battery would be light and give a great range, but 500 cycles could be had in just couple of years for a heavy user. LFP would give something like 4000 cycles. A 120 kWh equal size battery with that degradation would be better battery for the duration of the vehicle

@jimdewey8965 7 месяцев назад

500 cycles x 500 miles = 250k miles in a couple of years? Anyone doing that driving would have to sleep in the car!

@geoffhaylock6848 7 месяцев назад

@@jimdewey8965 500 miles from 60kwh battery? More like 250 miles. That is still a lot of driving.

@josedearimateiayjesus2178 7 месяцев назад

Sorry, mate, but until it actually makes it to production, n physical incorporated into EVs, I have my doubts. So far, I must have read at least over a hundred of these so called 'game changing' battery technology, but none have made to fruition

@davidbrayshaw3529 7 месяцев назад

But didn't you see battery day. Elon said that he had invented the world's best battery and everything was going to be heaps better and he's so good and everything and now he's made the battery and stuff and the factory and everyone else is jealous 'cause Elon's really smart and they're just making stuff up and all of that, you know. You should buy some Tesla shares! Elon told me to buy some so I can be richer.

@paulkearsley9509 7 месяцев назад

Another day, another new battery . One day, one of them might see real production

@geoffhaylock6848 7 месяцев назад

Probably around the same time as fusion power stations come online 😂

@chrisbarron5861 7 месяцев назад

100kWh pack ? Range depends on energy consumption. A model 3 at highway/70mph = 3 miles/kWh. = 300 mile range. Regardless of the battery chemistry, because 100kWh is 100kWh, however you store it

@davidbrayshaw3529 7 месяцев назад

Well, there is a first time for everything in the comments section of a Tesla fluffer channel. It's almost like you understand basic physics? How can that be? Has Elon not programmed you properly?

@chrisbarron5861 7 месяцев назад

@@davidbrayshaw3529 I'm happy with ICE, might take an EV if it can actually do what my ICE can do, but I won't wait ;)

@Raptorman0909 7 месяцев назад

Sam, put the pipe down -- I feel a Thunderf00t video in 3 ... 2 ... 1.

@dixon_est 7 месяцев назад

If you are talking about electric cars and batteries while trying to sound like an expert there's a small suggestion - try to avoid mixing up Watts and Watt-hours like you did several times in this video (example at 2:47).

@JMWflicks 7 месяцев назад

Hi, Sam. I'm a retired Aerodynamicist (actually specialised in Flight Dynamics, but know the processes used for Performance Prediction), and am not optimistic about battery powered flight except for very short range. A useful quick estimate of range can be made from the lift/drag ratio and the weight (which doesn't change for battery powered flight). So if L/D is about 20 (typical for a commercial airliner), each kg produces about half a Newton of drag. Each km consumes 500 Joules per kg (assuming 100% efficit conversion from electric power to thrust). A kw.hour will therefore give a kg a range of 7,200km. If the airframe and payload were weightless, a battery with 380 W.hours/kg could propel itself 0.38×7200 = 2,736 km. Unfortunately converting from power to thrust involves pushing air backwards - you haven't got firm ground to push backwards. It's hard to get as much as 80% of power turned into thrust, and you're likely to lose another 5% to the electric motor being less than 100% efficient. So the range is down to 2,052 km.The there is the reserve you need for diversion if the airfield you plan to land at is closed (for example during a recent storm, one aircraft that failed to land at Edinburgh had to divert to Cologne, another to Paris). I'm not sure what the legal minimum reserve range is, but both of those aircraft were forced to fly an extra 800 km. I'm guessing a reserve of 500 km. That brings the range of the battery by itself down to 1500 km. Adding an airframe and powerplant weight roughly equivalent to the battery brings the range down to 1,026 km without reserve, and about 500km with reserve. That's barely enough to do an internal flight in the UK, certainly not medium or long range. To cross the Atlantic, you need over 5,000km range, so looking for an energy density about 5 times higher than this solid state battery. 2 kW.hours/kgm might just about do it. But thanks for the news, Sam, I really appreciate it.

@alexhguerra 7 месяцев назад

Just for kicks, would it be feasible to cover airplanes with small rectennas to be powered up by microwaves sent from satellites? as they are closer to upper atmosphere, i suppose the loss gets lower and lower....

@simontillson482 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for this analysis. I concluded the same a while back - electric flight is possibly feasible for air taxi services but long haul flight? Not a chance! As you said, even with 5x current energy density, which works out at around 1600Wh/kg, it’s still insufficient for a cross-Atlantic route. No battery technology has anywhere near that energy density, even theoretically. It’s a total non-starter.

@davidbrayshaw3529 7 месяцев назад

@@alexhguerra Given that the upper low Earth orbit tops out at about 300kms above Earth and commercial aircraft fly at just 10km above Earth, you're probably going to be better off transmitting those microwave signals from Earth. The inverse square loss principle that applies to RF transmission is not your friend and, as they say, keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. But before you start experimenting, do a little bit of reading up on Tesla (Nikola!) and his "experiments". You might want to have a bit more of an in depth look at the "rectenna", too. Good luck with your experiments.

@JMWflicks 7 месяцев назад

@@alexhguerra I'm not really qualified to comment on what area of rectennas (?) would be required to receive the power required (we're talking of about 200 m/sec at 0.5 kn per ton, that is 100kw/ton, so a 200 ton aircraft cruises at about 20 megawatts of thrust power, requiring more than 25 MW of electric power). Could you collect that much from microwaves in the planform of an aircraft body and wing? The microwave receiving equipment would have to be buried inside the skin of the aircraft, and you might need some reflective metal foil in the fuselage skin to protect passengers from being cooked. Also, you would have to track very precisely each aircraft you were powering, and there might be an issue with any microwave energy that missed the aircraft striking plants or animals, or people, on the ground.

@mauroscimone8584 7 месяцев назад

I agree. Commercial electric flight will be a long way to go

@4justice002 7 месяцев назад

I am a cabbie and I don't have home charging meaning I will have to waste precious work hours outdoors just to charge my battery everyday. I NEED A 1000 MILES BATTERY PLEASE. THE MORE THE MERRIER.

@lkrnpk 7 месяцев назад

I do wonder how much a cabbie drives per day which is mostly city driving and sitting in traffic?

@johnfrancis4401 7 месяцев назад

Why can't you get home charging?

@CajunMusings 7 месяцев назад

its complete VAPOR WARE! even the article "24M Claims The 1000 Mile Battery Is Nearly Here" says it is NOT here. this is just another video on hype with ZERO substance...go read the article. if they can get an actual battery and not some mythical 'test' then sure, so many many many of these hype articles are just pure BS

@wily1532 7 месяцев назад

Specialy in winter it will give u more wiggle room

@charlesminckler2978 7 месяцев назад

10000 mile range wouldn’t change the fact that batteries need to be charged. If you spend 15 minutes enjoying a morning coffee and 15 minutes during lunch. You’d probably have far more range than you could drive in a day. It would miss the major cost saving of charging from home though.