American Reacts to How British Police Deal With Non-Violent Criminals.. 

bollocks i say to that you sir are talking out your arse.

Exactly this... For an AMERICAN to criticise British police, I mean.... Wow. That would be like the Brits claiming to have a better space program than NASA or something.

@@captain_context9991 no one brittish person ever worked for nasa right ?

@@andydudley1775 What ARE you even talking about? Where were you going with that? Point was... America has the worlds most cowboy amateurish police force. They get next to zero relevant training. 70% is about shooting that gun, slamming people to the ground, and hauling undesirable elements off the street. Thats all they do.

Same with Spanish police. Never fearing them and always easy to talk and seek their help.

Luv our coppers , have loads of police and ex police as mates , mainly ex undercovers , dunno if that says more bout me than them 🤣but after they retire so many sell cars cos their skills in talking to people is perfect. Recently u called the police after being in a car accident cos the guy drove off, he came back and I'm in the back of this police car giving my statement and the other policeman is talking to the guy who drove off , tge young policeman turned round and said "oh your known to us" Which insulted me so much cos only time I have done anything wrong was 3 years ago I got woken up to give a freind a lift to chemist cos he'd stood on glass , so drove him to asda and I take sleepy pills and if I get woke up its a drug induced sleepwalk , I don't know what's going on and I'm extremely pliable so if anyone asks me il help them out, I got done for drug driving which I totally agree with , but I was more offended with the guy saying I was known like I was a career criminal 😩 I'm very sarcastic so when I heard this I gave the guy a hard time and the older cop talked to me and said "you shouldn't have said that" instantly I was back on side , it just seemed like the proby was trying to upset me😩

That's nice to know. Shame now coppers puts so much energy in "hate crimes" on social media.

@@flukeman022 what do you mean?

@@nunpho ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TV5ubJq39h0.html

@@BipoIarbear yup. Sounds about right. The newbies tend to be slightly aggressive, but the ones who been doing it a while, they're calm and respectful because they know that it goes better for everyone that way.

Have to be when you're on a level playing field to the criminal, albeit with a radio and a stick...

Only better police in the world would be NZ police from what I know.

I agree. For the most part they're are decent peeople just trying to do their jobs. Just the few evil, stupid and entitled cunts make he rest of them look like they're all like Wayne Coussins or some shit.

It is so tribal... when in prison I could never have let anyone find out one of my best friends Was a screw. Another friend could never tell his cop mates he was a DJ.

@@bloozee thank you for sharing that! I know that we will all suffer as comunity and as a country as long this playground fuckery persists. Adult men playing childish games creates hell in earth that's where we're heading it seems. Yippee.... 😒

bullshit but hey if u hate america so much feel free to leave any time theres a reason so many people are crossing the border to be here but hey what do they know about truly horrible governments

@@chady1229 People are crossing the border because they think they will be free from oppression, bullying and poverty. They will soon realise America is not what they expected. And they will be exploited by big business, the government for cheap labor and for political games.

And no long term solution to rectify the situation, only temporary help.. It's jobs with a living wage that is needed. To give people their pride back.Not the Government acting like an Asset Stripping Company getting rid of workers etc.We have all seen those old US films where this actually happened.No mandated holidays, sick days, Parental leave, remind you of somewhere?

Well done ,sending love ❤

Agreed. There's stigma around so many things. It's time to be more understanding. Well done for speaking out.

Congratulations on your recovery. I have 19yrs and 3 months of sobriety and I know that you are a strong and courages person. And always remember:'Look back but don't stare!'

@@elkevera Thank-you very much means a lot . Well done to you 19yrs is amazing .

@@claregale9011 💖💖

Exactly that everyone deserves some level of understanding However I wouldn't say it could happen to any of us Some simply over do everything they do and them that do that well would only be there a week However lots of them wouldn't be their with a network around them such a shame it's left for the police to it

The government can n should do more ..invest millions into this . Instead of wasting it elsewhere!

@@madyottoyotto3055 you say everybody deserves understanding, but continue talking about how other people would work hard for a week and be out of there? Make use of that understanding you talk about

@@Dani-Elle- No because what I said is factual I'm not going to revoke something I have said because it doesn't sit right with you What i said is a fact There is a % of the populus that are fighters more than the others and are FAR FAR less likely to be on the streets for two weeks or more We all deserve some understanding In your head That means we stop understanding logic and reality TIT where was your level of understanding for me

@@robertpaisley8643 like on a stupid railway line that's way over budget and they have sunk billions into? Or the friends they gave in some cases billions for PPE during the pandemic and didn't get the supply needed. The cost of living crisis that they refuse to alleviate, not to mention all those that are trying to get better pay through the rail companies, postal service, the border force officers and the nurses and the companies and government refuse to give them appropriate pay rises so they can earn enough to just cover their bills, heat their homes and buy food. The problem is so huge and I have so much respect for those in the emergency services and those in customer or public facing roles. It's such a difficult job and it's great to see community policing and just treating the homeless and those that are clearly struggling to get by day by day with respect and care and building those relationships.

Prostitution is legal in the UK as well, you just can’t advertise or facilitate it which is fair enough.

Oh I didn't know that. Thank you. So why are the girls still in so much danger?

@@OneTrueScotsman The key to this is "consenting adults". A lot of the problem with prohibition is that it drives the market underground into the hands of unscrupulous criminals, leading to human trafficking and exploitation. If you remove the stigma and bring it into the open as a legitimate industry, a lot of that problem disappears.

@@tobeytransport2802 The lack of facilities is the issue though. Women and men aren't safe in terms of STD's and violence. If its going to happen anyway, why not legalise premises and offer vulnerable people protection when they so desperately need it?

@@tobeytransport2802 Yes, prostitution is legal. But just about everything associated with it is not. For safety reasons, prostitutes like to live in the same building so that they can protect each other, but that is classified as brothel and it is illegal. Prostitution like drugs should be legalised, but they should be regulated like other businesses.

Same i was at the point of the bank kicking me out of my house but my parents saved me. Back in employment now and drugs were never an issue for me so can understand how it can be even worse for these victims and yes that is how i see them.

59% of Americans people are just ONE pay packet away from being homeless, especially those with no support network. Loss of a job for many means they cannot afford to pay rent or bills. There are so many people working full-time jobs but living in their vehicles because their salary will not afford them a down payment on a rental. I read so many stories of families or single moms with kids living out of a vehicle, not because mom or dad haven't got a job, but because their pay packet is not enough to rent a place to live and pay the bills. Kids sleeping in a car and going to school daily. Many of these people are so ashamed, they keep their situation to themselves. They will pay $10 per month for Planet Fitness and shower there daily, hang out in the library in their spare time to keep warm and access wifi, get to work early so they can "clean up" in the bathroom before work. I have read, that many homeless people, turn to drugs because of their situation, which is believable. If I had no option but to sleep outside on a park bench or in a cold vehicle, sleep would not come easy, I'd probably turn to drink to knock me out each night too.

iv suffered severe mental conditions since i was young and im fully aware if my family weren't so helpfull an loyal i would be fucked. and what some people don't seem to realise is alot of people have difficulty with mental conditions even with support systems so without your odds are below 1% in most cases yet people still judge those who have fell on hard times its a bad joke

Had a serious personality fracture in September and my paroniod episodes caused domestic difficulties and eventually I was removed from my family home. I slept rough for five days and know it might happen again in the next couple of months. Police were fantastic with me and I can't praise them enough but not enough support available in UK for none violent or none suicide people.

Addiction almost always ends up being an escape from reality. The whole gateway drug, and kids experimenting and ending up hooked is a very small percentage to those who start because life is intolerable for whatever reason. It's also the biggest difficulty in reform and rehabilitation, you can get people off drugs, but getting them clean in the long run means building them a decent life. If you deposit them back in the same shit you hoiked them out of, there's very little chance in breaking the cycle. In Bristol if you're lucky enough to get a council owned property, you're moved into an empty concrete shell. No carpets, no preexisting white goods or furniture. You're given a voucher for Wilkinson's to get paint and decorating equipment, and a whole bunch of forms for grants and charity donations of white goods and or furniture. Moving an addict into an empty uncomfortable shell of a flat, and expecting them to crack on and make a life of it is asinine. The support provided tapers after a few weeks, and then it's up to you if you relapse. It's just not a workable system. Put an addict somewhere that looks like a flophouse and you can hardly be surprised if a large percentage then treat it as such and get straight back into the lifestyle out of boredom or isolation. The privatisation of council housing allocation and services has been an utter disaster. The letting agent that showed me around my flat was a local estate agent, who dealt with the whole process. The white goods and furniture mostly came from charitable organizations, even the one room I could have carpeted for free was supplied and fitted by a local carpet place at their cost, and the third party company that does maintenance only takes repair requests online, with the exception of one or two emergency repairs which have legislated timescales. So things that need repair rarely get fixed. I fail to see how employing estate agents is cheaper than employing housing officers to deal with the process, and the same with repairs and maintenance. Third party companies certainly don't do the work for free, but cost aside, it's a lack of accountability that plagues the process from start to finish. My flat is still undecorated as I'm disabled and bedbound, and a Wilkinson's voucher was useless to me. I got one room carpeted for free, the other rooms are still bare concrete floors I've partly covered with rugs and throws. It's really no wonder why recidivism is so high after rehab when this is their new reality most of the time. And it's a constant cycle of the same people getting access to the small pool of council owned property that still exists. Took me five years in temporary housing to get this place (including an initial 10 months in a Salvation Army hostel, where I couldn't exercise my 50% child custody), and I was the only non addict in the organisation that ran the pathway. I just didn't want to privately rent anymore after going through two no fault evictions with private landlords in the space of a few years. I have a progressive genetic condition and there's little to no chance of me being able to work and have a "normal" lifestyle in the future. The amount of cost and upheaval in moving is something I couldn't face doing again. But I had no idea that sticking to my guns and pushing for a council place would take five years, and I was surprised at being handed keys to an empty concrete shell, rather than a part furnished flat (at least with carpet or flooring in every room and paint on the walls). If you're homeless or soon to be homeless you're just told to privately rent, and often that not only eats all the housing benefit, but also takes a chunk of any other benefits you receive. It's an unsustainable system in every way. Apologies for the long rant. I have a huge respect for anyone who manages to get clean and stay clean, because there are so many pitfalls and obstacles to overcome to find the life that you want to live, rather than living in a reality you want to escape from.

Yes all for dramatic effect

"she has no respect for body left". What an absurd statement. Your first statement of being in a state of "desperation" is the driver.

@@kingy002 nice one mark mate for understanding it better.

Well she is in a state of desperation too as she wants money to get by no matter what way has to do to get some, when she is out of that bit of struggle she be respecting her body way more than you think

She degrades herself for drugs dont blame men i know people who work and spend all their wage on drugs there is always a choice she could rob and shoplift she chooses to sell her body for a tenner

@@Venenata can get more time locked up with the others if caught, probably only went to drugs to make her life situation bearable

Hate people who judge the homeless. Like wtf, people walk past and abuse these people because they've fallen on their arse. If anything I judge who walks by. I always natter to the homeless instead of going in primark with the Mrs lol they are better company and interesting. Humanise them and then you realise it can happen to you.

I appreciate you you from the bottom of my hear homeless for 4 years coach surfing trying to find my way, Long story short after 4 homeless places shelters, I work 4/ 12 hour shifts 4 on 4 of for the last 3 years 👍 you guys gave me light at the end of the tunnel

Locking the addicted up to detox - I can see why you'd think that, but it doesn't work, and could not work. The drugs and the booze are the solutions, not the problem. Take away the solutions and you've still got all the fucked-up parts of your brain but now no way to deal with them. That's why addictions hop about so much - from booze, to drugs, to booze, to food, to fighting, to shopping, to gambling, back to booze again. It's all the same illness.

@@hazelangus I total agree Hazel, hence why i said "This is not what i think we should do".

I was told I couldn’t have a social worker when I’d been homeless for years. I also have multiple physical and mental disabilities, learning difficulties etc I’d ended up being sexually exploited and came out of a house rife with sexual abuse alcoholism and domestic violence. Over and over again we would contact the council and social services and it took them years to allocate someone who then refused to actually help in any way. I have a support worker now but she just told in the way home from an appointment that she can’t take me to them anymore and the local community in Katy transport service said I’m ineligible even though I’m housebound and use a mobility aid at all times. I am gonn in g insane stuck indoors not able to go anywhere other than appointments for the last year and now I can’t even do that anymore. I’m not exactly sure what services social services ar E meant to provide exactly

Recovering from prison is worse than recovery from crack. IMHO

@@bloozee Ive been to prison a few times, not for long, all in total about 1 year of my life inside. I never really found it that difficult. Boring most definitely. Was once moved to an open prison (Leyhill) from a cat A prison (Winson Green), had the key to my own cell, which is just weird. Mostly did education and watched TV. In the open nick i also managed to get a PS1 from the library, so i played games on that.

Liverpools city council is made up of the working class and they absolutely hate us. You should see the crime stats coming out of Liverpool under their watch.

Protect your arse and Serve your own interests.

the only time iv had a issue with the police it wasen't even a real officer it was the community assistance/watch who basically only can tell you to stop and call actual officers and in this instance when the proffessionals got there first thing they did was tell the community officer to basically get lost because of how much they were aggitating the crowd with their ego for context there was a accident and the com officer woulden't let the parent near their son having a siezure smashing his own head into the floor and was very egotistical and speaking down to the father she was doing this mind you as one women who is only a comm officer in a neigborhood reasonablly rough area an in a group of 30 people the police officer who arrived instantly apoligised to the father about how she acted obviously that doesn't' help when his son has now caved half his nose in lucky he had no perma damage that was serious from what i heard but the point is the uk and also the spanish/italian police while abbrasive rather cold are proffesionals doing a job compared to the US were i imagine that comm officer could in most probibility become a US police officer were she would act aggressive unstable in a group that big then would probs have shot someone in 'self defense' btw she also threatened the father with pepper spray when he got something to stop his son smashing his face in its the main reason besides others i woulden't spend money going to the US with my anxiety and according to my doctor a form of ptsd because of trauma when i was younger i really need to be able to trust the police and in the US i just can't put my faith in them when iv been around the british and spanish

I have seen a vod of someone with a sword in the UK and they waited till the dog unit arrived and he pretty much gave up immediately. Would be suicide by cop in the US

@@captvimes and in some Australian states. ( unless they have improved their procedures recently)

@George Shaw The offence isn't swearing at a policeman, it's being heard swearing by the police - Section 5 of Public Order.

No , it’s not an offence to swear … but it is disrespectful. And we should respect the services we have

Agreed

Exactly. Where do they think that money comes from? Prosecute the men taking advantage not the women being used

Here's ther UK law on prostitution: www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/part/1/crossheading/exploitation-of-prostitution

@@jameshill7843 on that basis I'm confused how sex workers are every arrested. Thanks for the link to the actual law not a blog or newspaper

Escorting is the loophole esc way to not get in trouble, it's selling time not prices by actions so you pay for a hour what you do with the hour us up to you and the client (ex male none sexual escort). I have made many escorting friends, the ones with no trouble from the police class themselves as escorts the ones who have been in trouble you tend to her prostitutes like business. Buiesness is conducted differently, always in a house, alway cash upfront, normally outsiders won't know but there's normally weapons and/or a friends very close encase also would leave a windows slightly cracked open so you scream and your friend can hear (although not need by friends or myself still good to know) I've never had any bad instances besides 1 but I am also a male less pay buy massive margins in less danger in my opinion too. these are just the tips I've heard over the years from the female escort community And if you are a prostitutes and some how found this comment be safe look into escorting in the UK its probably safer. Also people who look for laws you will only get half truths the evidence can and will be altered when the police find you inconvenient or atleast where I'm from. Standard police afew bad eggs but mostly OK people doing there job but matrix squad corrupt rats are worse than the gangs some then again so is most government body's in the city. I have no view on the rest of the UK police as I don't think I've been arrested outside of Liverpool yet.

Your story of the police giving you help and reassurance, is so nice to hear. What a horrific accident you had, similar happened to my Dad, he was hit side on, and had to be cut out of his car. Glad you survived.

I wonder why the working girls thought their profession was legal in Liverpool. It did occur to me though that the police action was so ineffective at stopping them that is was pointless and just adding to their problems

That made me wish I was about to get between and care for you when mother got rid of you and protect you from the rest of that

Question: why is it automatically assumed government will help?

Well ,frankly ,why when your brother had lived abroad for two years ,WHY would he expect the government to just ‘ give him a home’. Of course his parents took him in, good grief, you can’t just stroll back and say Give me a home.!

Well, being British and paying taxes for years, I guess maybe the government would say we can't give you a house, but we can help you find a rental property.

@@Oddballkane The entitlement! Your brother chose to leave. He was also not "homeless", he had the safety net of your parents to fall back on. If he feels so hard done by then he needs to go outside, touch some grass and watch this video because he has a damn sight more than a lot of people do. He has a roof over his head, he has stability. There are people right now who are struggling to make ends meet, who work damn hard. These are the people our government should be focused on helping, not someone who hasn't even lived here for two years. Too right he was rejected.

I always think that too and do they have any family, these are someone's parents or kids

That's untrue. It states the following: "(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby". That includes officers ☺️ I had an exam on this subsection a few days ago

@@tea-rex5658 Under Section 5 a police officer can be a victim but we have other laws that protect the people against this abuse of power. Enforcing Section 5 with a police officer as the victim is in direct violation of the Human Rights Act 1998. Under Section 5 “(3) it is a defence for the accused to prove- (c) that his conduct is reasonable” Under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act “1Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers.”

@Jack It's not an abuse of power, a police officer is a human too and also enjoys the protections of the law. You're also conflating criminal law with human rights laws, if the arrest was in breach of a person's human rights, they would never make it past the custody sergeants who need to identify that the arrest is lawful and proportionate to the alleged offence so that human rights aren't breached. Having freedom of expression does not permit a person to freely abuse others, civilian or Police Officer.

Doesn't matter who it's aimed at. If there's other members of the public who could be caused harassment, alarm or distress then the offence is complete.

They get fed as well. Honestly I can understand why they would get arrested for a public order offence.

that is not true. I volunteered at a centre held in an Anglican Church in Chelsea. One of the constant Friday to Sunday was the son of diplomats, an only child whose life was blighted because his parents didn't spend enough time with him and sent him to a posh school. Contrast that with my father, son of Irish immigrants and when his father died as the youngest in the family worked aged 7 playing the piano in the silent movie house and then progressed to projectionist every evening. At weekends he pushed heavy lead containers full of Italian icecream to the football matches. Never heard him complain in fact he told jokes about how he and his friends enjoyed their lives. No woman has to sell her body these days, they spend more money on drugs than they would on food. Some people you just can't help some people.

I disagree. No matter how poor you are, you can still get an education and a job.

And the fine only increases their need to raise more money. Maybe a different type of penalty if any

@@adrianhempfing2042 honestly it seems like they need some kind of social worker or something to try sort out their issues.

@@seanNZ91 yeah true. I think that's also why these officers go a bit easier when they can. I think some places have been doing that in recent years , police and social worker , a team approach

You have to see it in the bigger context, as the officer said its about the impact on the local area, the people who live there, making it more difficult for them to operate reduces the problems for them. It's not just the women, it's their pimps, which is what the "boy friend" actually was doing there. The question you should ask is if they were doing it on your street, would you want them left alone? Of course it is better to help them, and such help is available, but some people either can't or won't take such help.

@@OneTrueScotsman The question though is what do you do?

Still in bradford its a bit better on some of the estates ,but not much . When your greatest fame is to say i live on the street where they filmed rita sue and bob too its a bit of a bumer

@Geoff Priestley. I still come to Bradford for work now and then, though not so much as things have been the last couple of years. I moved near my girlfriend and my car insurance halved. Some of my friends also moved away and see themselves like a displaced community. It was no longer safe for them to bring up kids, in their opinion, which my car insurance reduction would sort of support. They would still see their old district as home, only without the welcome.

@@alansmithee8831 we have a clean air zone now be carefull of the charges

@Geoff Priestley. I read about the charges. Funny because I got a speeding fine on Mayo Avenue coming off the M606. I had put my foot down to get round a lorry and avoid a car coming the wrong way to the motorway slip road before the roundabout. I would normally go up to Odsal, on Halifax Road, then via Queensbury and down Chat Hill to avoid traffic in the centre anyway, if that side of town and round the ring road past Asda the other.

Prostitution is not illegal in Britain either. How, honestly, could you prove it most of the time? Brothels are illegal and the offence is living off immoral earnings,I.e. pimping.

@@Joanna-il2ur They encourage brothels here so the workers are safer and get covered by rights. Immoral is all relative to the viewer. We're all just humans experiencing life. Each to their own I say, as long as not harming someone/something else.

@@ctakitimu it’s just the legal term, so that doesn’t mean I approve.

@@Joanna-il2ur Oh, gotcha

In Germany it's legal they insured pay taxes and need to do mandatory health check ups that's how it should be done

lol that prostitute now has to blow off 4 more men to pay off the fine. Makes no sense. I don't even see why they're arresting them either. They're consenting adults.