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@simontomlinson6484
@simontomlinson6484 2 года назад
54 Bradford fans and 2 Lincoln fans died. I'm a Lincoln fan- one of our stands is named the Stacey/West after the two Lincoln fans who died. I knew Bill West. Every year, a memorial wreath is placed in the centre circle on the nearest home game date to the date of the fire. 35 years later, we don't forget and never will. Awful awful day. RIP to all those who died.
@ianjackson1674
@ianjackson1674 2 года назад
Amen Simon. I was far away at the time, but as a Lincoln man, it still hit home, and still does.
@keithdelaney3728
@keithdelaney3728 2 года назад
I’m a Bradford fan and was sat on the back row behind where the fire started on that terrible day. I was 32 at the time and had my 9 year old son with me. We saw the commotion and the smoke and decided to go to the back of the stand to the fire exits but they were chained and locked we tried several but all chained. It was now to late to go towards the pitch as the whole of the roof was ablaze, I knew there was a tiny souvenir shop near me and thank god I found it. This door was locked but I easily kicked it open then over the counter and kicked another door open and we were safely on the street outside the ground. I’m nearly 70 now but both my son and me regularly go to matches we’re still a topsy turvy club we’ve had some great promotions even managing to get into the top division for 2 seasons in 1999 although we’re back in the bottom (4th) tier of the football league. This year we have great expectations of gaining promotion but whatever happens the City of Bradford and all our fans will never forget the 56 fans who sadly perished due to that terrible fire.
@Brummie31
@Brummie31 2 года назад
I remember watching this final on the television with my family. At first, we really didn't think it was going to be so bad. After a while, it became obvious that this was going to be much worse. We couldn't stop watching, it was still being televised. It was truly horrific, something that we can never forget. God bless all the people who suffered that day at Valley Parade.
@timberwolf5211
@timberwolf5211 2 года назад
After this tragedy, you would've thought that lessons could, and should have been learned, but they sadly weren't, as it was only two short years later, in 1987, that the London Underground station of Kings Cross, had a major fire. That started from a dropped lit match, on to a wooden escalator, which in turn, set fire to the accumulated grease filled trash, which, like at Bradford, fuelled the fire further, which then turned it into a major blaze, where, sadly 31 people were tragically killed.
@trevmacc
@trevmacc 2 года назад
i remember watching this on tv, and just last week i was talking with some friends about it and now its on here, shows its not forgotten like a lot of disasters
@richardtaylor5289
@richardtaylor5289 2 года назад
My brother was in that stand with many friends. He saw the smoke and decided to get out. By the time he ran to the other side of the stadium he said that it was like being too close to a bonfire. Really frightening
@andywrong3247
@andywrong3247 2 года назад
I remembered watching it live as a newsflash, I have also seen the start to finish in a health&safty video, is amazing how quickly it spread. My mate & I were leeds utd fans in early 1980s,even though I remained a leeds fan, my mate jumped ship to support Bradford that season, he luckily survived. He is still alive today and still follows Bradford. Bradford a few years later got into the top league but now I think they are in the third tear. Ist division, how ironic that both Hillsborough & Bradford disasters were in North of England Yorkshire.
@oldbill6396
@oldbill6396 2 года назад
I remember watching this live on TV and was shocked that the cameras were showing people on fire. I would imagine if anything like this happened today the broadcast would stop immediately.
@beakybuzzard
@beakybuzzard 2 года назад
I was on my way back from Bradford Ice rink when this took place, drove right pass the stadium as the fire took hold, was a horrific thing to see, my thoughts went to all those inside
@neilpickup237
@neilpickup237 2 года назад
I was working in Leeds at the time which is only a short distance from Bradford, and quite a few of my colleagues supported Bradford City, and we knew were regularly at their home matches. The following Monday was a very tense day as we waited for everyone to come to work. Fortunately everyone I worked with was safe, although one of them had suffered a little hair loss (and a ruined jacket) as the fire raged in the roof above him as he escaped with his young son. One I sat next to was also at the match, but was in a different stand, although he was visably shaken. Very little in the way of support or councelling back then, you just got on with it with the help of those around you.
@sabinasabina2010
@sabinasabina2010 Год назад
Well you should watch the real time version, not for morbid curosity but it shows you from the start when the commentator notices and said, "oh there is a ( small) fire"and to the whole stand being burnt down in was literally minutes. I had to do a fire safety course at work and they told us just to sit quietly and watch the real time footage to when it was too late, if you don't have a fire escape plan it is literally minutes until you can't escape. I also remember this disaster for another reason, it was on the very same day I was at ( as a child) another football match in the English professional leagues and after fighting a wall collapsed and killed a 16 year old child at his first ever match, that still lives with me today. No mobile phones back in those day so after what I witnessed I told my brother on the way home I never want to go a football stadium again and then this was on the news.
@alandoust551
@alandoust551 2 года назад
No fire extinguishers is the thing that stood out the most from this video. What the heck.
@ryanbotha9775
@ryanbotha9775 2 года назад
The vast amount of tragedies at soccer games, and rugby too, have been fan based, where crush injuries have caused major incidents, there have been several around the world, here at Ellis park during a soccer game it happened years ago too .
@kaineash
@kaineash 2 года назад
This, and the Hillsborough tragedy made me fear crowds for a long time when I was young.
@KingFahtah
@KingFahtah Год назад
The original tv footage had a much greater impact than the well I never video.
@olienajh
@olienajh 2 года назад
It was such a sad day. I remember it happening too. So horrid that it takes a tragedy to make changes to places like this.
@pamelamason3964
@pamelamason3964 7 месяцев назад
I saw it live on TV. Will never forget it . Horrendous
@gaynor1721
@gaynor1721 2 года назад
The terrible incident was broadcast live on British TV. Here's a few minutes of the live broadcast, from the start of the sight of flames to when the stand was engulfed in flames, if you can bear to watch it. It gives you an idea of the speed in which the fire took hold and the intensity. The temperature reached 1000 degrees. One of our newsreaders, Colin Brazier was in the stand not far from where the fire started and managed to escape. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vGfU_kBTgZE.html
@Knuckle_Sandwich_Hand_Wraps
@Knuckle_Sandwich_Hand_Wraps 2 года назад
You should look up ‘The Kings Cross Fire’.
@andyblogger1
@andyblogger1 2 года назад
A tragic occurrence in an utterly tragic city. The decline of VP up to the fire marks a city that's been in abject decline since the 1970s.
@blade_20
@blade_20 2 года назад
Where is the link to the original YT video?
@johnevans5064
@johnevans5064 2 года назад
I remember this awful tragedy vividly. I am a Manchester City supporter and had watched my team beat Charlton Athletic to gain promotion to the First Division (now known as Premier League). Obviously in celebratory mood until we got back to the car and heard the tragedy unfold on the radio. Needless to say celebrations were somewhat muted that night. RIP to those who perished
@Neil_TheShiningMile
@Neil_TheShiningMile 2 года назад
I remember this - be it, I was very young. It was one of many disasters around that time which resulted in major changes that should have been introduced without the need for so many deaths. The Bradford Fire led to the banning of new wooden stands. The Kings Cross Fire led to the banning of wooden escalators in tube (subway) stations (that’s a video worth doing one day). Hillsborough led to the removal of fans being caged in. The video of the fire is available on RU-vid. It’s a tough watch but it does drive home just how quickly it spread. Less than a third of the length of *this* video, it went from no fire to an inferno. No one really blames the guy who dropped the cigarette. Smoking should never have been allowed in a wooden stand anyway. The blame lies at the feet of the club for allowing an old wooden stand to have built up rubbish and oil, and then have supporters smoking. Thankfully we live in a much safer world now.
@Leon-zc4ef
@Leon-zc4ef 2 года назад
"Smoking should never have been allowed in a wooden stand anyway" It was a very different time and no smoking areas were the exception. Trains had dedicated carriages. Restaurants, clubs, pubs, nightclubs all allowed smoking. When I started working in a brand new office a decade after this, the smoking room was next to the cafe and had comfortable seating, a radio and would often be packed by smokers and non smokers because of its amenities. Fire risks didn't consider banning smoking unless it was extremely flammable to the point you could still smoke during your flight for years after this.
@Neil_TheShiningMile
@Neil_TheShiningMile 2 года назад
@@Leon-zc4ef I know. That’s my point. I remember this period too. Smoking anywhere and everywhere was the norm. But the danger was the same then as it would be now. And yet people chose to ignore it. Then 56 people die and suddenly everyone decides that an old packed wooden stand with smokers is probably not the best idea.
@michaelriordan8265
@michaelriordan8265 2 года назад
That was such a shocking day, we saw people being burnt to death. R I.P, they were innocent victims, as were the Juventus fans at Heysel stadium.
@jamescockings6852
@jamescockings6852 2 года назад
From memory, most perished who instead of exiting the stand via the pitch tried getting out via the exit gates at the back of the stand but found them closed.
@FireMunki63
@FireMunki63 2 года назад
Its never soccer, its always football. ;) Lol
@alfietyson9096
@alfietyson9096 Год назад
I live in Bradford and my grandad was at the game but he did not die
@tozmom615
@tozmom615 2 года назад
Jesus JPS. I remember this. What a terrible tale to tell.
@TheDiplococcus
@TheDiplococcus 2 года назад
What a horrible day this was. Some strong lessons were learned in the hardest, most brutal way. :(
@StanWatt.
@StanWatt. 2 года назад
I remember that carnage, it was awful.
@andyrjs
@andyrjs 2 года назад
I never thought I would see you reviewing this. I was there in the stand that burnt down as a 16 year old. The stand was split into seating at the back and a standing area at the front. Fortunately I was at the front next to the pitch. There was a high wall to climb over but no problem for a young person. The heat from half way across the pitch from the fire was incredible, I can still remember it now. There is a memorial service every year which I try to attend. This video is respectfully done but it doesn't convey the speed that the fire spread. It was a few minutes. You can see the real time footage and it is scary. As well as the TV footage, there was a live radio broadcast from a guy who was in a position in the roof of that stand.
@chriscjad
@chriscjad 2 года назад
Wow respect to you Andy. One of the lucky ones!
@andyrjs
@andyrjs 2 года назад
@@chriscjad Thanks Chris but I did nothing more than escape. The fire started at the opposite end to where me and my mate were stood so we had time. We helped an older guy over the wall and then quickly left to find a phone box to ring home. As we left the ground a car pulled up and a woman said her son was in the ground and did we know what was going on. We assured her everybody got out OK - we genuinely believed it. We didn't know about the locked turnstiles at the back. I often wonder if her son was OK. He probably was because most people were in other stands but I do wonder.
@andyrjs
@andyrjs 2 года назад
The radio commentary conveys the rapidness of what happened: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DkTFG9c1QfY.html
@chrissmith3215
@chrissmith3215 2 года назад
I was there too as a 14 year old. Like Andy I was on the terracing at the front of the stand. It's often referred to as the forgotten tragedy. But not so in Bradford
@chriscjad
@chriscjad 2 года назад
I vividly remember watching the whole thing on TV as a kid. Glad to hear you both made it out of there ok!
@AshtonCarr-bl1rg
@AshtonCarr-bl1rg Год назад
I’m a Bradford fan this will be remembered by the fans forever
@bluesilvahalo3576
@bluesilvahalo3576 2 года назад
I remember watching this on tv as it happened, it just started as a small fire but the cameras kept going back to it and it was clear it was escalating rapidly. I'll never forget seeing a policeman on the pitch with his hair on fire. From start to finish was just horrifying.
@allisonnancholas9620
@allisonnancholas9620 2 года назад
I saw it live on TV as well and that image of the policeman has also stayed with me all this time - poor souls
@jackiefax2315
@jackiefax2315 2 года назад
I was watching on TV too. I remember the commentator noticing when the fire started and how quickly it escalated. I live about 10 miles away and been to Valley Parade a number of times. There are always scarves, pictures etc at the memorial. The memory is very much alive in Bradford.
@dianepiggott1083
@dianepiggott1083 2 года назад
I was going to say the same, I couldn't believe my eyes just remember the policeman trying to put the flames out on his head with his bare hands.
@kristymac3236
@kristymac3236 2 года назад
I remember that too and it still has an effect on me, whenever I watch a film and they have someone on fire it brings it back
@AJ87868
@AJ87868 10 месяцев назад
That policeman was Constable David Britton. He entered the burning stand, with the roof collapsing in around him and burning tar falling down, to help a man he saw struggling to escape over a wall. He pulled him out by the waist and dragged him to the side of the pitch where they tried to save him as flames began to engulf him. I don't know if the man survived. The heat caused Britton's hair to catch fire and he had to leave the area, returning shortly after despite severe burn injuries to continue providing assistance. He was awarded the Queen's Gallantry Medal, along with three other policemen and two civilians. Over 50 police and civilians received bravery medals for their actions that day.
@desmondobrien68
@desmondobrien68 2 года назад
I will never forget the fact it was live on TV Truly shocking scenes
@desbyrne1256
@desbyrne1256 2 года назад
I was in Wales on an outward bound course (city kids canoeing, mountain climing etc.) Part of the character building was standing up with all the peope on the course and reading the news. This was the story i had to read out and it has stuck with me still nearly 40 years later. The silence from all was chilling. Great channel Fella. keep up the great work.
@generichuman2044
@generichuman2044 2 года назад
I've seen the video of the incident and it is one of the most horrific things I have ever seen. It's difficult to imagine just how quickly a fire can spread. Within 5 minutes it turned from a celebration to 56 people being killed. I will never forget the image of a man running around on fire while fans and police officers desperately tried to save him. RIP to those 56 innocent souls and I hope their families have recovered well.
@thaitim007
@thaitim007 2 года назад
Yes i saw that
@ryanbotha9775
@ryanbotha9775 2 года назад
Easy to imagine when wood and tar are involved.
@DEWDLES
@DEWDLES 2 года назад
Yes I always think of that poor man . It was truly horrific.
@Tilly-f7l
@Tilly-f7l 2 года назад
Yes I remember seeing that poor man on fire ..it was the most graphic awful thing I had ever seen I was a teenager at the time but that imagine is still in my mind ..RIP 🙏 poor loves
@thaitim007
@thaitim007 2 года назад
@@Tilly-f7l just remember he rests in peace now. I saw that. I have seen similar in real life at a car accident. Shocking at the time. Unforgettable. But to make peace with it, remind them to rip. It was due to sad factors beyond your control.
@Louisewolf
@Louisewolf 2 года назад
My dad recently told me we are related to one of the victims, Moira hodgson. I haven't seen this footage since. May they all rest in peace. Xx
@kaineash
@kaineash 2 года назад
I'm from Bradford, now living in California. I remember every minute of that.
@matthewjamison
@matthewjamison 2 года назад
Not surprised you split. I lost all respect for the people of Bradford when I found out 25% of the 500,000 population was Muslim & they were preying on your kids. Westminster tried a few times to inflict them on us in N.Ireland. That didn't work out too well. We love our children
@chrisboult6610
@chrisboult6610 2 года назад
@@matthewjamison not just Bradford
@matthewjamison
@matthewjamison 2 года назад
@@Evikeuklavier It needs purged by the sounds of it man.
@matthewjamison
@matthewjamison 2 года назад
@@chrisboult6610 Fuck that man. Westminster tried unloading loads of Syrian refugees into Belfast. But the people wouldn't have any of it & all the private landlords were threatened & told if they like their properties & safety, they'll rent them to people from the area & Westminster had to backtrack lol
@willrichardson1809
@willrichardson1809 2 года назад
a week or so after it was followed by Hysel a different situation, however a crumbling stadium and currupt authorities allowed it to happen. Both could have been easily avoided with the right regulations in place..............85 was a bad year for Football.
@dongillan5287
@dongillan5287 2 года назад
As a long standing City fan, I was in the stand on the day. The only reason I didn't have my fiance with me on the day was I couldn't get her a ticket. The seats were divided into blocks, seven across and two down. In the rear section a low wooden wall surrounded each block with an entrance at the rear and centre stairway, not so in the front section where the blocks were seperated by stairways at each side (except for the directors block in the center which was walled). A gangway running the length of the stand separated the front and rear sections. Unusually, entrance was from the back at the highest level, and the seats reached by going DOWN the stairways. I had a seat in the front row of the rear section in the centre (D). Luckily, when the fire broke out, I chose to go forward by climbing over the low wall in front of me into the centre gangway. There was no panic at first, no one really knew what was happening, just waiting patiently for the queue to move. But then a ball of flame and smoke began rolling along the length of the stand under the wooden roof directly towards where I was standing and we knew we had to get out. I started climbing over the backs of the rows of seats in the front section until I reached the front wall beyond which was about a six foot drop to the standing area in front of the stand. As I was climbing over a hand from below grabbed me and I was literally thrown several feet down the terracing behind the policeman that the hand belonged to. I looked back and he was doing the same to everyone that appeared at the front of the burning stand, clearing the way as quickly as possible for the next. I retreated across the pitch and even from the far touchline the heat was unbearable. I wasn't hurt at all, just a hole burned in the elbow of my jacket where some burning tar paper from the roof had stuck to it.
@burnbrae6948
@burnbrae6948 2 года назад
Harrowing Don. I remember watching it live on TV in horror and utter sadness knowing that people were not going to make it out alive. It is heart warming to hear from someone who did.
@shayneramsay1388
@shayneramsay1388 2 года назад
Its crazy what a split decision can do, thankfully your decision was the correct one i know over the years you would relive that decision in your subconscious. We are all grateful you are hear to tell your story about it.
@andrewcoates6641
@andrewcoates6641 2 года назад
I’m from Bradford and I was 24 years old on the day of the fire. Although I myself had no interest in the game, I had driven my father and my brother in law to the match and made arrangements with them to pick them up after the game so they didn’t need to find parking. For various reasons they had to go into a different stand than they would normally have (Main Stand), so they were both spared the worst of the fire’s effects but they were left with a first degree burn on the right hand side of their faces and hands and the fabric of their clothes was singed on the right hand side too. I returned to try to find them , which I did fortunately as dad had caught a lung full of smoke and he would not have been able to get much further than they did. He lived another 20 years afterwards but rarely ever spoke about the events of that day. One good thing that came from the fire was the development of the fire treatment facility of the local hospital which is now a world leading unit treating fire victims from all over the country and the staff also are sent to major fire incident’s in other countries around the world to consult.
@petedenton9434
@petedenton9434 2 года назад
I remember this well - I was in high school and one of our teachers was there with his elderly dad and his young son. He was faced with the tough choice of which one to help out of the stand first. Thankfully all three managed to get out of the stand unharmed. I now have strong associations with Bradford and many friends there. A tradition has become established of remembering the 56 people who died in the fire, every year on the anniversary of the tragedy.
@jamescockings6852
@jamescockings6852 2 года назад
My most vivid memory of this was seeing a man engulfed in flames wandering onto the pitch and around 10 people taking him to the ground and trying to beat down the flames with their coats and jackets and also a policeman leading someone to safety not realising his hair was on fire.
@karlaro2460
@karlaro2460 2 года назад
The reason the fire crews arrived on site so quickly was because they were watching the match live on tv when they witnessed the fire breakout, they were already on way to the scene before a call was even placed
@screamingplastination5991
@screamingplastination5991 Год назад
Wrong. The fire crews, were taking part in an exercise on Canal Rd, a few hundred yards away. (Downhill) The call to them was requested multiple times before they were actually called and they arrived far too late.
@michaelclayton960
@michaelclayton960 Год назад
Also wrong because lower league matches were never televised live in those times.
@screamingplastination5991
@screamingplastination5991 Год назад
@@michaelclayton960 it went Live via satellite, as breaking news. But not as a Live game.
@michaelclayton960
@michaelclayton960 Год назад
@@screamingplastination5991 I know. I was responding to the original post from Karl.
@nikoladedic6623
@nikoladedic6623 3 месяца назад
​@@screamingplastination5991Pretty sure it was Yorkshire TV that broadcasted the match live.
@douglasthompson296
@douglasthompson296 2 года назад
Hi Joel, as others have said a wooden escalator at Kings Cross station London caught fire from all the combustible rubbish that had gathered over the years. That fire caused a high loss of life too (31). However, it brought about the removal of any wooden escalators and changes to fire fighting etc. RIP to all who lost their lives at Bradford and Kings X
@keelbyman
@keelbyman 2 года назад
The sad thing is all you hear after these disasters or social services tragedies is "Lessons will be learned". Unfortunately they never are ☹️
@JJfromPhilly67
@JJfromPhilly67 2 года назад
I remember the Kings Cross fire.
@douglasthompson296
@douglasthompson296 2 года назад
@@keelbyman so absolutely true Peter
@alans.2735
@alans.2735 2 года назад
We still watch this at our fire lecture..The time it takes is still shocking. We remember the victims and their families with love and respect.
@davidbrooks960
@davidbrooks960 2 года назад
I was a fire marshal at work and the training video included a clip of how fast this event happened. It showed in five minutes little smoke to a furnace, people were actually running while on fire! Sad sad day 😞
@ddaddy1775
@ddaddy1775 2 года назад
I'm a Bradford City fan and this disaster was an accident waiting to happen. There was so much rubbish built up under the stand that it could have happened at any time. It just so occured on a day when we were celebrating our promotion in front of a large crowd. Check out a video called "Returning to the terraces 31 years on" which is about a elderly gentleman who's last game was the Bradford fire, but finally goes back to watch a game over three decades later. It's really heartwarming!
@spamvicious
@spamvicious 2 года назад
The stand was due to be demolished after the game, it was just a horrible tragedy.
@moraymac2922
@moraymac2922 2 года назад
A horrible tragedy but a preventable one. The council had alerted the club to the build up of debris under the stand years earlier. A newspaper dated from 1968 was found in the ruins of the destroyed stand. Not an accident - preventable.
@stevenlawrie7819
@stevenlawrie7819 2 года назад
I remember watching it live on TV horrific :-( Rip lest we forget
@briwire138
@briwire138 2 года назад
I remember watching the live pictures coming through, seeing a policeman with his hair catching fire from the radiated heat. It was only when a poor old chap walked out onto the pitch on fire from head to foot that the pictures were cut. Most stadiums at the time were similar, wooden deathtraps.
@moraymac2922
@moraymac2922 2 года назад
It was the build of debris underneath the wooden stand that acted as kindling for the fire. That debris had accumulated over decades and the club had been warned of the dangers posed.
@sarahealey1780
@sarahealey1780 2 года назад
I have had to watch the live footage of this in fire training at work, it is truly horrific, I'm glad you only saw pictures and not the full video.
@Westcountrynordic
@Westcountrynordic 2 года назад
I've watched the full live footage as well before becoming a steward at then local football club
@seanhopton.
@seanhopton. 2 года назад
I was also watching The Hillsborough Game,when the disaster Happened.A cover up Happened and they tried blaming the innocent Liverpool fans.30 years to get justice?
@russellstanton7583
@russellstanton7583 2 года назад
I will NEVER forget seeing , live on TV , some poor soul walking as if on a country stroll, on the pitch , engulfed in flame. It was surreal and incomprehensible. Moments later a copper ran and knocked the burning fan to the ground , frantically trying to beat the flames. A vision that shall haunt me for ever...
@geekexmachina
@geekexmachina 2 года назад
I remember watching it on the news as a child. Regarding fire Extinguishers I think at the time they were not mandatory. Its also worth pointing out that fire and building regulations were less strict and as a result of this a lot of laws were created, and a lot of fire awareness came in. For example the laws about smoking began to change, this was also due to the Kings Cross subway fire of 1987 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0iwkBwTYLEc.html . I work for a big paint company and fromerly a big plastic company as a chemist and Fire testing is taken very seriously in our products there were a handful of disasters in that period, Including the Hungerford massacre of 87, lockerbie plane bomb of 88 Liverepool FC also suffered the Heysel Stadium Disaster of 85 as well. and thats without counting a number of serial killers.
@DaddyChannie
@DaddyChannie 2 года назад
My mums friends was in this fire, sadly they didn't make it 💔
@adrianhempfing2042
@adrianhempfing2042 2 года назад
When I liked this post - it means sorry for your and their loss
@binkybuns462
@binkybuns462 2 года назад
Thank you for your reaction to this. Those that died deserve to be remembered. I remember watching this live and, as others have already said, some of the things we saw and heard have been cemented in my memories. The horror of that day can not be overstated. I would like to praise the police and those fans that tried their best to help. Many put their lives on the line to help others and many have them to thank for their lives. Also an honourable mention for the commentator John Helm who went from a sports commentator to a news reporter. His professionalism that day was outstanding under such horrifying circumstances. I always think of Herbert Morrison and the Hindenburg for some reason when I think of John Helm. Completely different and yet similar in that they kept going despite the horrors they were witnessing. Blessing to all involved. P.S. why does it always take a tragedy to state what is so blatantly obvious. 2 years after this we then had King's Cross, different place, same circumstances. I had to go to Kings Cross about a week after. I can still remember the smell to this day.
@gdhukLONDON
@gdhukLONDON 2 года назад
I can remember the poor bloke walking across the pitch calm as anything on fire head to toe as if he was just out for a stroll. The full video is not nice to watch and so lucky even more did not lose their lives
@abbafan1972
@abbafan1972 2 года назад
I remember this happening - it was really sad!
@alansmithee8831
@alansmithee8831 2 года назад
A'reyt Joel. I would normally say hello and I enjoy your reaction, but instead I appreciated this one and felt it appropriate to greet you in Yorkshire dialect. I was not at the ground, but still near enough to smell the people burning. I was among older friends who had kids at the game. I grew up in Manningham, which was the name of the rugby team that changed to become Bradford City. Back when the football team started the local woollen mills meant the area had millionaires. The FA Cup trophy they were presented had been made in the city the year they won it, by a jewelers near the Bradford Wool Exchange, the "Wall Street" of world wool trading. The invention of modern fabrics killed the city's earnings, hence the lack of investment all round. The other professional football team Bradford (Park Avenue) had gone bust about a decade prior to these events. Their address in brackets had been added to distinguish them from City. They have reformed as a non-league team. There are videos of their demolished ground on RU-vid. City are in the fourth tier of England's professional clubs, having got to the Premier League on local support about twenty years back. Not being able to maintain the money needed, they tumbled back down through the leagues by relegation, which may be new to US readers whose teams are franchises. The city's surviving rugby league club play at Odsal Stadium which once held around 100,000 people for a cup final replay, but had ended up in a similar dilapidated state. Bradford City played there for a while, but the emotional attachment to Valley Parade, especially after the fire, meant moving permanently was not an option that fans would accept. The rugby club later moved briefly to Valley Parade, but similarly their fans see their record breaking ground as part of club history, though having been league and cup winning twenty years ago, they also went bust, had to start again and temporarily moved to Dewsbury for ground improvement to be done. Bradford is poor, but vibrant. It has the fastest growing population of almost all the UK cities as immigrants can afford to live there and make a fresh start. It always had an eye on business and making money, but with people who were in no way posh and had no time for those who were or those who felt themselves upper class. One of the the big five supermarkets in UK was from Bradford, which used to be based about a mile from Bradford City, due to the value for money, no nonsense attitude of the local shoppers. The image elsewhere however was of a blue collar city and investment often bypassed it as a result. A better image used to be of industry and reliability. I have commented on channels that react to "Dad's Army" that they should watch "The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp" which has Bradford characters from early 20th century of this type. Most film characters from the area tend to be the century before due to the successful Bronte sisters' books from the area, which in another way can make for a backward looking view of Bradford. The Bradford area has about half a million people, most in what would otherwise be a picturesque bowl shaped Yorkshire Dale. You should look at some more cheerful views and perhaps go for a curry and for fish and chips if you visit. I keep asking US reactors, without success, to check out Yorkshire Tea adverts, including Sean Bean and Ripping Yarns, including "Eric Olthwaite" and "Golden Gordon". The latter is relevant to this video, but watch "Eric" first as they follow on and the black pudding would be relevant to your previous reactions. It is from Monty Python colleagues of John Cleese from Fawlty Towers, done about the same time.
@lynnemacfadzean4855
@lynnemacfadzean4855 2 года назад
I remember this every year because it happened on my 30th birthday so every year I say a small prayer for those who perished!!!
@cornishmaid9138
@cornishmaid9138 2 года назад
We watched it unfold, it was traumatic to say the least. It’s still emotional to revisit, especially for the children. 😢😢😢
@lyncohn9505
@lyncohn9505 2 года назад
You didnt watch it unfold as the match wasnt shown alive. The camers were there because the other team were being awarded the trophy after the game
@anhistorian7255
@anhistorian7255 2 года назад
That unfolded live on tv right in front of our eyes, as we had a sports magazine show called World of Sport at that time and they went over live to their reporter as the fire took hold. Watching someone running onto the pitch with his head on fire will stay with me forever.
@generichuman2044
@generichuman2044 2 года назад
Those poor fans and police officers tried so hard to save him. Absolutely horrific
@shithappens1975
@shithappens1975 2 года назад
Yeah that's the main image that has stuck with me, I was 10 years old watching with my dad. It was truly horrific.
@Spiklething
@Spiklething 2 года назад
Yeah me too, was at a friends house watching live. That image is also what I immediately think of when Bradford is mentioned.
@lyncohn9505
@lyncohn9505 2 года назад
No it didnt, you saw a news report, the match wasnt on tv
@shithappens1975
@shithappens1975 2 года назад
@@lyncohn9505 yeah it was, where do you think the footage came from?
@nicobyrne2774
@nicobyrne2774 2 года назад
I was there in stand my first ever match what a terrible day ! Didn’t think anybody had died until I got home my mum slapped me round face when I got home at 7pm she knew people had died ! Never forget! Love ❤️ my club rip 56 X
@teejayy2130
@teejayy2130 2 года назад
Dreadful event. The video was owned by Yorkshire Television who removed it firm availability.
@alderaanic1042
@alderaanic1042 Год назад
Imagine if they had perimiter fences like at Hillsborough the death toll would of been unimaginable.
@Roscoe.P.Coldchain
@Roscoe.P.Coldchain 2 года назад
Sorry can’t watch this I watched it unfold live all those years ago, the same day leeds united fought with Birmingham city on the pitch one fan was also killed at that game also the same day when a wall collapsed on a 15 year old boy..😢
@spacecadet01
@spacecadet01 2 года назад
Not the best video to analyse this, just in terms that it seems very clinically done. To really understand this horrible tragedy you can watch real time footage...the speed and spread of the fire was horrific.
@lilyliz3071
@lilyliz3071 2 года назад
I was in my house in Glasgow papering the lounge ,my dad came in to watch the football and I stopped to watch with him,I'll never forget how horrifying this was
@spamvicious
@spamvicious 2 года назад
life long city fan here. I was two when this happened. My dad was there with his friends and still can't talk about that day even know. My mum didn't know if my dad was alive until the next day due to there being no mobile phones around then. This video fails to mention that the stand was due to be demolished after this game. I want to give a special shout out to the pakistani community that lived around the ground and helped many survivors that day.
@benkegg4419
@benkegg4419 2 года назад
Been to Bradford city many times with a colleague from work. They play a memorial game each season to pay respects to the lives lost. League 2 is where they currently play.
@AndrewJamesWilliams
@AndrewJamesWilliams 2 года назад
I was only about 6 when this happened but I still remember what happened.
@johnf8067
@johnf8067 2 года назад
13:08 They then played in the third tier of English football, and now play in the 4th tier of English football
@colinp2238
@colinp2238 2 года назад
JPS there is a channel that I think will interest you about Scotland, Scotland History Tours. The videos are made by Bruce Fummey, half Scottish, half African. He covers many topics and events from Scottish history and combines them with visiting the actual sites. His videos are informative and amusing, very laid back and not too much like a history lesson from school. The man is a very nice man (I have met him personally) his approach is good and he certainly draws you in.
@alansmithee8831
@alansmithee8831 2 года назад
@Colin Paterson. I keep commenting the same as this and have on here, despite being a Bradfordian. I kept telling Bruce in comments not to give up on the UK as Yorkshire folk were more like Scots than southerners. Next thing he turns up doing a video in Doncaster, near where I now live.
@colinp2238
@colinp2238 2 года назад
@@alansmithee8831 I was in a Yorkshire regiment in the army, mainly from Huddersfield, but also Bradford and Donny.
@alansmithee8831
@alansmithee8831 2 года назад
@@colinp2238 Was it Duke of Wellington's. Not army myself, but some family were and I had uniform books and painted wargames figures.
@colinp2238
@colinp2238 2 года назад
@@alansmithee8831 No, it was 5 Regiment Royal Artillery. We have an unofficial reunion every November in Huddersfield.
@burnbrae6948
@burnbrae6948 2 года назад
Bruce is a legend. Should have his own TV show! What he doesn't know about Scottish history is either fake or not worth knowing.
@speedyreedy4878
@speedyreedy4878 2 года назад
I lived in the next town to Bradford and we received a few survivors for treatment at the hospital I worked ,extremely sad day,I’ve never been inside any stadium since.💕
@Graham6410
@Graham6410 2 года назад
These days Bradford City AFC play in league 2 which is the fourth highest league in England as you have the Premier League, Championship and league 1.
@williamoates1754
@williamoates1754 2 года назад
It was quite common before this incident for rubbish ro accumulate under ancient wooden stands, espescially the lower division clubs. You can be sure things changed pretty quickly after this.
@wrightfamily4373
@wrightfamily4373 2 года назад
A colleague is a son of those killed in the fires he still says it’s horrendous what happened
@shoutinghorse
@shoutinghorse 2 года назад
Bradford City currently play in Football League 2 which is the 4th tier of the English football pyramid. They did manage to get promoted to the Premier League in the late 90's but only managed to stay there for two seasons before being relegated.
@reluctantheist5224
@reluctantheist5224 2 года назад
Thanks
@DidrickNamtvedt
@DidrickNamtvedt 2 года назад
Horrible disaster. I was 4 years old when this happened and though I'm sure this was mentioned on the news here in Norway, I was too little and occupied with my things (as 4 year olds typically are) to take note of it but learning about the disaster as an adult really saddens me and my heart goes out to the victims and their families. I've seen the video footage and it's crazy how quickly the fire spread and how the chaos on the pitch ensued. I can see how the footage would serve to demonstrate by the fire department how quickly things can take a turn for the worse during a fire. The new stadium is hopefully equipped with everything needed to stop something like this from happening again.
@MrChris1533
@MrChris1533 2 года назад
I saw this live on TV i was only 8years old and i remember people running onto the pitch on fire in particular a man with his head on fire
@johnloony68
@johnloony68 2 года назад
I remember watching the footage of the fire on the TV evening news (I was 16 at the time), and it was horrendous to see (worse than the still photos in this video). The flames spread along the structure faster than people could run, hence the high death toll. One common theme about football stadiums at that time was that there was not as much money in the game, so clubs couldn't afford to renovate and build modern structures with higher standards. (You can see evidence of the lack of investment in footage of some old games of football where the pitch itself is churned up and muddy and irregular, because it hasn't been maintained properly). Now there is a whole lot more money in the whole industry, and one good thing is that the whole game of football in the UK has been transformed since the 1980s. Another football stadium disaster which I don't know much about (because I am not old enough to remember it) was the Ibrox disaster of 1971 in Glasgow, in which 66 people died in a crush.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 года назад
Usually, we react to some fun videos but this one really hits you hard.
@grimmreaper9905
@grimmreaper9905 2 года назад
My foster sister was in there but she was one of the lucky ones
@QuarkTheMagnificent
@QuarkTheMagnificent 2 года назад
This was the year before my son was born - I remember it well and the horror unfolding before our eyes at an unspeakable rate of knots. The starkest memory for me being that of a man running onto the pitch and fully on fire - horrific. As the days went by and the victims were identified by name in a surreal way the tragedy became all the more real and all the more personal even for those who would have never known the victims personally. May they all RIP and may this never happen again.
@melbeasley9762
@melbeasley9762 2 года назад
I remember watching it live on TV in utter disbelief.
@havoc6_1_6
@havoc6_1_6 2 года назад
I can remember watching it on TV live at the time, it was hard to watch, if your into this kind of content you should do the Hysel stadium disaster, it was the 1985 European Cup final Between Liverpool and Juventus. One of my mates was there on a school trip, he survived lucky but it was a dark day in football. I watched this game live to, I think 38 people died. The worst thing was they decided to still play the game while they were still pulling dead bodies out of the crowd. Peace from England.
@RushfanUK
@RushfanUK 2 года назад
I saw it live on TV as well, it was terrible. They did not carry on playing the game while bodies were being removed from the crowd.
@havoc6_1_6
@havoc6_1_6 2 года назад
@@RushfanUK They did, it was stopped for about an hour, people were still under the rubble when the game started peace my friend.
@havoc6_1_6
@havoc6_1_6 2 года назад
@@RushfanUK just spoken to my mate who was there, he confirmed this to be true....
@willrichardson1809
@willrichardson1809 2 года назад
Section Z is where it all happened. At the previous years final Liverpool fans came under bombardment from Roma fans while under secort, Liverpool fear this could happen again, so they returned 7000 (think) tickets. Section Z should have been empty because of that, yet UEFA and the Belguim Authorities decided to sell them on the day. Liverpool and English clubs got rightly punished, Juventus (one fan on camera brandishing a gun) had to play some games behind closed doors, Heysal was banned for a time from staging events. I am struggling to recall the punishment on UEFA, maybe because they handed out the punishments and let themselves of lightly.................. 37 years on and just looked what happened in Paris in May and they could not wait to blame the English, UEFA will get away with it again.
@havoc6_1_6
@havoc6_1_6 2 года назад
@@willrichardson1809 what my mate told me was because block Z had more room for the Juventus fans. The supporters were separated by a piece of ROPE, the Juventus fans pulled a 12 year old boy into their side so Liverpool started throwing concrete from the crumbling terrace. The Liverpool fan with a " gun" turned out to be a starter pistol.
@101steel4
@101steel4 2 года назад
I remember seeing that live on telly. The video is very disturbing. I can still remember the person still sitting in the stand 😪
@W0rdsandMus1c
@W0rdsandMus1c 2 года назад
Joel you said "No fire extinguishers" when this happened it was unbelievable that you could smoke anywhere, pubs, restaurants, shops, cinemas, theatres, work, the list goes on, I couldn't get my head around the fact that people used to walk around clothes shops smoking, not only fire risk but covering the brand new clothes in smoke, it was all very normal back in the day, since the smoking in public places ban 2007 it takes me by surprise even seeing someone smoking in the street, everywhere is a lot safer now, thank goodness
@ryanbotha9775
@ryanbotha9775 2 года назад
Nothing to do with smoking, and smoking is still common in restaurants and public places, get out more
@speleokeir
@speleokeir 2 года назад
Although the Grenfell Tower disaster shows such tragedies can still happen, especially where greed and dodgy companies are involved.
@W0rdsandMus1c
@W0rdsandMus1c 2 года назад
@@ryanbotha9775 What utter rubbish, if you are smoking in any public places in the UK you are doing it illegally, why do you presume I don't go out? I obviously don't go to the places you go to, I gave up smoking in 2007 because I wasn't having anyone telling me where I could smoke
@W0rdsandMus1c
@W0rdsandMus1c 2 года назад
@@speleokeir I agree, there are always exceptions to the rule
@ryanbotha9775
@ryanbotha9775 2 года назад
@@W0rdsandMus1c so don't let anyone tell you, I don't..
@Phil_A_O_Fish
@Phil_A_O_Fish 2 года назад
While this was an unbelievable tragedy all those years ago and most of us Brits will forever remember those people that died or were injured in the fire on a more positive and optimistic note Bradford has just been named as the next U.K. City of Culture in 2025. That's a great achievement for that city especially when there were a record-breaking 20 initial applicants to claim that title. For any city to obtain it means that investment, development, tourism etc and all of the money that comes from it will go to benefit all of the residents of Bradford both before and after it actually happens. Well done, Bradford, you deserve it! 👍😁👍
@gemmaaaxx
@gemmaaaxx 2 года назад
I remember learning about this at school. It was on the day of the 20th anniversary as I recall. I can’t remember what lesson it was used for (I assume it was science). It’s a lesson I have never forgotten about, like when we learnt of the Hillsborough disaster too. On the anniversary I always think of the victims and their families ❤️ xx
@garbageday587
@garbageday587 10 месяцев назад
I was expecting people to react to the full video (8 minutes I guess) (instead of seeing still images) which is found of RU-vid channel at more disturbing than this crap
@MarkPentler
@MarkPentler Месяц назад
Chalk me up as someone who has to watch the live video from the day during fire safety training
@shadmtmtn1603
@shadmtmtn1603 2 года назад
5/5/1992, Furiani, bad setup for additionnal seats, 18 deads, 2357 wounded (no, i didn't missclick the numbers). The entire temporary structure felt down. Edit to clarify : most of the victims were not really wounded when the structure felt, but were stepped over by other victims in panic...
@johnfrancismaglinchey4192
@johnfrancismaglinchey4192 2 года назад
Good Morning Joel,,,,,, with your upcoming trip not to far away I’m just flagging up the possibility of travel chaos,,,it starts with a rail strike this week with the possibility that it might get worse,,,,,, I’m hoping everything will be back to normal before you travel 🧳. ✌✌✌✌✌
@kh7cz
@kh7cz Год назад
I was a 25 year old EMT and Vol. Fireman at this time. All I could think when I watched this was "It is 1985 and these kind if fires aren't suppose to happen more." We have the technology and know how to prevent these kind of things. Overconfidence can be a killer.
@anitahargreaves9526
@anitahargreaves9526 2 года назад
Can't like, however your reactions are sincere, imo. I was born 68 and feel bad I almost forgot about it, 56 tragedies and tormented football fans. RIP Bradford and Lincoln families, friends and supporters. 🇬🇧👵🙏
@ivonakrajcovicova6446
@ivonakrajcovicova6446 9 месяцев назад
This is disgusting! Who would record themselves to watch a tragedy where so many people died! And you hope it won't ruin your mood! SHAME on you!
@jodu626
@jodu626 2 года назад
you can actually watch it happen on YT somewhere. the speed in which it takes off is scary.
@paulguise698
@paulguise698 2 года назад
Hiya Joel, it was disasters like this why The English premier league and championship has such lovely grounds, it was same as at Hillsborough, that's why we've got all seater stadiums, because of what happened in the 1980s, this is Choppy in Whitehaven, Cumbria, England
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