@@YallNotWhite_YourPINK well those are still live in the dark, high school kids additude. It's time to grow up. Majority of the Polynesian brother's and sister's from different islands in the Pacific are woke. Spreading the love and making new friends is the best thing to do now in these generation. Stop spending hate learn how to spread love is what we all need. We're living in a temporary falling world.
Tonga is still the last monarchy that remains in the South Pacific that reaches back over a thousand years in an unbroken bloodline 🇹🇴 the British couldn't take us at the height of their power. Every other Polynesian island was colonized by foreign powers. Tonga was never colonized at any given time. But at the end of the day, we Pacific islanders are all one huge family. Same bloodline, different tribes. 💯
Str8 up FACTS Tokoua, my grandfather is from NUKUNUKU village and OTEA island in Vava’u their history shows how “Loto Lahi” our ancestors were. The people of of NUKUNUKU built a trench all around their village and fought against the king of Tonga because the main chief became Christian his name was “Tu’ivakano” but all the other inhabitants of NukuNuku were of the old ways. All 300 were murdered by king Taufa Ahau and his forces. From men to children 🙏🏽.
FIJI Was never invaded by the Tongans, only a few small islands in Lau province but was heavily defeated by a Fijian chief in one of the main islands. Only Samoa was ruled by tonga for 500 years.
Yes this is true. Not all of Fiji was ruled by Tonga. And I’m Tongan. But I find that we don’t have a rivalry. We in fact get on more with Fiji than we do with Samoa though. It is much much better now but for years it was a bit different.
People need to get there history checked because Tu'i tonga only ruled over savaii they never ruled over upolu, manono, and tutuila (samoan islands) i hate when i see tongans saying they ruled over us but dont know which parts.
A Samoan telling the truth based on the facts..it was the same story my ancestors told us and it is easy to believe..now the truth is here where it's all started
nah story is we entertained them at a invited feast, weapons were hidden on the shore and the royal guest and the Tongan King and his royal guards were there. While being entertained and filled there tummies with the most rare delicate food of the pacific ocean. they were soo in awe of the dance and entertainment that the dance became a WAR Dance. being prepared with the weapons hidden in the sand all royal guards were slaughtered but the king and his queen and some royal guest witnessed and heard the king of Tonga yelled out as they flea in their canoes something like " i came in WAR with Samoa!, next time i come will come in peace!"
Lmao, they still hold onto something that is a joke. So nah! Samoa is the true Polynesian, cuz they stayed true to what it was being the first of Polynesians & are the one to hold the real & authentic experience of a Pacific islander til this day. Yessir! 💯🇼🇸🇦🇸🤙🗣🌎
@@filexjane7993 because they're atleast authentic to keeping Samoa traditions alive. Yes Pacific island government is not the best all in general. But they didn't try to copy royalties from others. They made sure Fa'a Samoa was implemented to the understandings of Samoa culture/traditions since before government. That's why Samoa is still rich of its culture & traditions from before. So yeah.
@@MegzLife I don’t think these days we can argue about true authenticity of something especially arguing within the Polynesian fam or even worse the Pacific. From my own perspective, yes the Fa’asamoa is still alive within generations to come but the downfall of it is the cash greed of the chiefs and I don’t think that is of any good, and also most of my diaspora Samoan friends don’t speak Samoan or even the halfcasts in Samoa to start with can’t speak your language. Tongans on another hand, have a better chance of most people using their language. I dont think there is any Polynesian country in the past who did not have a King/Queen in their History. Remember Salamasina, Malietoa, and all the Tuis there were
I reckon no one knows what really happens in the past because some people can lie about their history story's or you can't tell if they changed their story's from the past lol. Support Every Polynesain to do better.
I know every time I hear this story I laugh and I knew is bulshit is just a good bedtime story. I'm Tongan and I think we should let this story go because if did happen that was really bad time and I'm not proud what my brother's done because at the end they got nothing from it just let it go my tokos. Ofa atu ✌️🇹🇴🇹🇴🇹🇴
Yes! That’s the issue that doesn’t sit with me also! Because we don’t record our history in writing scripts - it’s only verbal. And I was thinking about this just as much. And how our people can only go off by the mass majority of information to connect dots too.
there's even a stone in samoa at the beach the tongans retreated at, the stone is engraved with what the king of tonga was saying to the samoan chiefs and warriors while he was retreating word for word.
i have a brother thats Samoan and im Tongan and we love each other like real brother leave the our ancestor to fight their own war let us unite our nation tou Samoa tou Saoma mate ma Tongan
Tongans and Samoans are prideful happiest humble people, gentle giants of Polynesia until it's time to go to war, the rivalry between neighbouring countries has a long history around the globe. Pakistan and India, England and France, north and south Korea and so many more throughout the ages. In modern times Polynesians are 1, still prideful happy and humble but we celebrate our rivalry together dancing singing and rooting each other on.
@@originalclaymoreboy728 they'll always be people who try and keep us held back in an old world unfortunately, last Rugby league World cup it was Samoa who stepped out of Tongas shadow when Mate Ma'a Tonga laid the blueprint of what togetherness and belief can do, and they were the first to sink some major ships and take names. I for one was part of those fans who rooted those boys on until they beat Australia in an international. Ofa atu to my tokos who did the same for the Toa, uso aso uma is important on the field, but even better off TokoUso
@@originalclaymoreboy728 I'd rather us get behind each other and continue to give Australia England and New Zealand headaches. We need to keep supporting Poly teams like Samoa Tonga PNG Fiji and the Cook Islanders. Get our names up there where they should be. It's the big dogs we should be focusing on, not each other uce
Tonga ruled the pacific. Stop being crybabies and take the facts. If the “tui manu’a” was so powerful, where were they during the 200 plus years?……. Sit down and be humble. “Is that how you spell heros??”🤣🤣🇼🇸
@@anotherchannel9928 don’t call me “siana” you were not part of the empire that whooped everybody ass. Stick to the “tui manua” language 🤣🤣🤣 and I DO KNOW lmao. Video is retarded, even the guy reacting to it knows that. Hahahahahahaaha bunch of fools
@@krzylocloc6945 if y’all want to make videos like this and speak bad about my people….. then yes, I’m proud. Proud that my ancestors were able to travel far and wide smashing anybody that stood in the way. Yes I know that the empire got chased off the island, that’s very true. But cannibalism? That is absolute bull sh*t 🤣. I know my history……. Nowhere in history was that taught lmao the hate is real. Stick to the facts.
Bruh and the tui manu'a didn't get involved the Tongans saw Manuʻa as a sacred place aswell as other Polynesians the reason why Manuʻa and the Tui Manuʻa didn't get involved is because Tagaloa Eitumatupua from Manuʻa had a son with a Tongan noble women who would then become the first tui tonga Aho etiu
You were never on their level fk up😂😂 and even they (vikings) like the Tui tonga was all hype. You ruled more water then you did land. Many islands were never conquered only a few😂
@@originalclaymoreboy728 a few? 😂😂💀💀 go educate yourself LMFAO! I didn’t say they were Vikings in a good way, you ignorant ass. You’re giving uneducated peasant and I lm not even going to entertain this shit😂 If you were educated you would’ve known that Tongans did it 2000 years before the Vikings did. GTFOH😂💀.. and I’m not Tongan you dumb shit
Tonga ruled over pacific islands including Samoa for over 400 yrs do your research. Then later Europeans would come and colonise all islands but except for Tonga. That’s history and it’s documented hate it or love it your word ain’t changing nothing today 😅
Bro r u algood? Ruling water? Ruling the Pacific Ocean when most people on earth are landlocked means you're too advanced. It's like ruling Mars when no one else can even get on mars. Europe didn't discover Pacific Islands for centuries, meanwhile we went and got Kumara from South America then sailed back home. Being white doesn't make someone higher level, tf.
@Chcholo Tonga was never colonised because at the time there was a worldwide shortage of horses 🐎 great Britain decided along with all world powers at an international summit to withdraw their initial plan to take over Tonga for that very reason🤣🤣🤣
Tonga has the most Lapita sites in all Polynesia even the oldest tatau instrument found in the Ancient fortress village of Pea Tongatapu 2700 years old 700BCE made of human bones Fitiula wasn't born yet Manuka originally from Fisi Namuka which is Nomuka in Ha'apai and Manuka in Tongatapu brought to Ha'amoa Hahake by Ancient Tongan Navigators Ha'a Maui Tonga Fusifonua and Tavatava o Manuka as Tuimanuka Titles also named Savaihi in Ha'amoa Havaihi in Hawaii big Islands as Vaihi Continent Pulemelei Siaheulupe were built by 23rd Tuitonga Momo Talafata 2 1100AD from Hau o Momo Uno o Sangone story similar to Talietumu in Uvea built by Kau'ulufonua 33rd Talakaifaiki 3 beginning of Havea Malietoa Titles 1400AD when Tuna and Fata ambushed the Tu'itonga Kava Ceremony 🤭When was Satiailemoa the first Tuimanuka started with 40 chiefs Titles and 54 Supreme Tu'itonga Titles Timeline Last Tuimanuka Matelita 1890 Last Tu'itonga Laufilitonga 1826 With all the evidence found in Tonga as the Origin Birthplace of Polynesia 😊
It’s hard to argue with that to the Fijians brother. Fijians and Tongans were the first settled Poly islands. Share some love with Fiji 😂 but its true Tonga was settled before Samoa.
Now! Finally some relatable and familiar comment's as I've heard told, shared by the respectful older senior's and elder's of relative's and family member's that was shared with them orally through many of generation's across the centuries to the present moment. *Peace & Love To All Of The Pacific Oceania*
You guys want to play with Polynesian History... ok. dont expect help when Asia dominates you. Its already happening. ASIA is here, I see them in 24hr fitness, buying all the 400k plus houses, professional immigrants is the next Asian generation. you done messed up cuz we wont help
This is only one version. And like you asked, “How can we know if this is true?” Every event in Polynesian oral history has a hundred different retellings. Like they say, history is written by the victors. I am Samoan and Tongan, and am embarrassed by some of the comments here by these plastic “Polynesians.” But grateful to you bro for even thinking to react to this retelling of the War of Solosolo.
We never going to stop talking about this we still feel the pain and the suffering till this day Samoa and Tonga were best friends but Tongans they make a ferocious barbarous choice to destroy their friendship with the Samoan over greed. Till this day some Tongans think is funny and they cell thim self's the Vikings of the Pacific and they disregard the lives they took.but the Samoan let them keep Thier lives and told them go back home so who deserves the glory
As a Tongan I partially agree with you here EXCEPT for a few pointers: 1. Tu’i Tonga we’re the ones who did this. There were 3 Kings and Empires in Tonga fighting for the one crown. And they just happen be the empire. Yes they were Tongan but it doesn’t mean all of Tonga would have agreed to their rule as well. 2. Yes absolutely! they WERE like Vikings. They literally were. It wasn’t a good thing. The idea of a Viking has been drastically romanticised SO much! I think that’s the part people are getting twisted too. Heaps! Just like the Vikings - Tu’i Tonga had one motive only. And they too didn’t give two fucks either about anybody’s best interests at heart, and not even the other Tongans who did not side with them.
Thanks to our ancestors who fought for our freedom and peace,we their descendents have the honor to live and enjoy the fruits of their hard work and giving back to them by taking pride in our culture and its past and passing them onto the younger generations.Anyways TOKOUSO for life!
We Samoan girl do have big feet but it said that they started fires. And the I'm Samoan but i'm still looking at you like mmm. Different island. And I still love my Tongan family.
Each country have their own story of perspective respectively. We fought Tongans off the island and we still have evidence of where we said farewell to the Tui tonga.
I went to high school in central Auckland back in the early 90s at a predominantly pacific island school. Tongans and Samoans used to play rugby against each other at lunch time and it would often erupt into a brawl, like lions fighting tigers, totally ferocious. They got fine most of the time though.
Iv met many Pacific Islanders but when I met a Tongan and iv met many now they all hold such a powerful presence of harmony and strength almost royal they are the most beautiful people iv ever met on earth till this day unlike Samoans or Māori.
Man get your silly ass on lol. Samoans hold the most weight in the pacific, there’s a reason we’re so well known and respected, we stamped our presence unlike the Tongans etc
Yeah alot of Samoans and tongans married each other so wasn't a suprise the traitors where eaten by the malietoa kings but then it all stopped when malietoa son sacrificed himself
It's because of the intermarriages that happened. Many of the Samoan nobole women at the time married Tongan Royalty in order to strengthen ties. Tongan women were sent to Fiji to marry their royal and noblemen for the same reason. That being said, it was a conflict as to which side many of the Samoans would fight for. Plus, after blood conflict and many years of war when Tonga ruled in Samoa, over time the Samoans were actually treated better by the Tongan rulers than their own chiefs, which is why Tonga lasted so long there. It started cruel and became more diplomatic over time, but then became cruel and tyrannical again toward the end of the 450 years of rule over Samoa, and finally, the cruel Tongan king Tu'i Talakaifaiki was the last straw, and the Malietoa twins tuna and fata led the Samoan rebellion that freed them.
@@krzylocloc6945 only when Tui Tonga Talakaifaiki came into power before Tuu Tonga Talakaifaiki the previous Tui Tongas would have a peaceful relationship with occupied and unoccupied areas it was only 1 Tui Tonga who abused his power which lead to war
The story is all cap, our real history was never been told but a few tongan knows but never to be told coz it will bring war to all Polynesian against Tonga…….. but who ever made tht story was alway a hater for Tonga
According from Tupaias map, it all started in Samoa (he was the father he said). So lets leave the past as is and move forward.. We have a lot of half samoan tongans, since, so Unite we stand and together we fall.
Tonga has at least one Tongan village in all of the Pacific islands..pls let's not stray from history the same history Samoa teaches on the island of Samoa they know
I'm samoan and that's true back then, but that happen only in one village not the whole island. But in the end that village finally fought them off and chase them back to Tonga. And from then Samoans became the alpha of the Pacific/Polynesian islands and still is now, samoans are the most famous in the whole world than any other Pacific Islands including Tonga. They in our shadows 💯.
@@Cuhfromdaast wtf are you on about? 😂 there was no Tagaloa from Tonga you weirdo nor does it say or read from anyone that he came from Tonga🤣 you guys had Tangaloa eitumatupua which is a tonganised samoan word btw so i wonder how your people got that name for a god🤔
@@Jay-ph8rk fk that’s how you know your knowledge of lineage is lacking Dr tevita kaili has proven this in recent studies to interconnect the lineages of maui tangaloa and hikuleo please do not bots ever again
@@Cuhfromdaast lacking what? From who? A scholar that likes to discredit everyones studies but his own? that lil dog kaili can eat the fua brah, Phd Okusitino Mahina and Dr Opeti Taliai both say that Tongans are ignorant to the truth😂 If Maui, Tagaloa or Saveasi’uleo came from Tonga then why the fuck are your people not allowed to touch they’re king being he is tapu but Samoans could, shouldnt all your people be able to claim the Tui title if that was the case not just one person since you all came from Tagaloa 🥲 where as in Samoa anyone had the right to be given the Tui title so long they go through protocols believing we are all derived from tagaloa 🤔
Naww man the guy in the beginning getting choked is hawaiians it's a short video on old hawaiian days the short film on RU-vid is called HO'OMAU" translated means keep going I'm hawaiian so when I saw that I was like nahhhh that was off a hawaiian short film check it out it's pretty good but the language is all in Hawaiian.
There is a Tongan side to the story. Even though I'm Samoan, I've heard the oral history some Tongans were told. Apparently, there was no head to head war. Instead, Samoa ambushed the visiting Tongans in the middle of the night. The sleeping Tongans were slaughtered in their sleep.
The ambush started in Aleipata then the tongans fled throughout the south and north coast of Upolu where there were few places the tongans counter attacked until the Tongans were finally forced back to Fatuosofia where they fleet back to tonga
@@Cuhfromdaast rhen explain the 500-600 skeletons they found in Aleipata was held the ancient names of Samoan villages which refer to how many Tongans were killed in there battles along the coast the monument literally honoring all the Samoans who fought 🤦♀️always trying to down play these events this conflict literally began the decline of the Tui Tonga title🤦♀️
@@Cuhfromdaast idk why tongans don't even wanna respect the Tongan warriors who died there even tho I'm Samoan but Idc anymore about that shit idk why they deny it literally disrespecting the Tongans who died in Samoa in the battles along the coasts to Fatuosofia and the massive ambush in Aleipata 🤦♀️and even worse when I spit these facts u attack me cause I'm a Samoan idc if I'm Samoan I just love history rather learn about the bloody Falklands war then this crap
@@malietoasamoa1301 did they carbon date these skeletons how do you know they were tongan skeletons lmao and who found these where’s the link the proves your statements
When the Tongans came to attack Samoa the second time,they wanted to make sure they succeeded this time after what happened in Tutuila island some years ago in what they now called American Samoa.So they brought more warriors and besides they knew and learned that there are 3 powerful kingdoms in the island of Upolu. So,instead of attacking Upolu island which is closer to Tonga,they went past Upolu,manono and Apolima islands and went around Savai'i island and attacked the northern part of Savai'i island where hardly any Samoan lived,and they settled illegally at the place called Safotu. We learned about these Tongan's plan from those poor Tongans who were taken as prisoners after the war. Those prisoners told their Samoan masters that Tongans had a plan to bypass Upolu island, because it was too risky. So,some men from Savai'i took their boat and went sraight to the Tuamasaga kingdom,because Tuamasaga was the most powerful kingdom at the time.And told them about a big fleet of Tongan warships at the northern side of Savai'i and they are illegally occupying Safotu. 6 Malietoa brothers and their nephew Ulumasui went to Savai'i to find out if it was true.They didn't attack the Tongans because it was definitely a lot of them but went back to Upolu.They came up with a plan,with the help of the Tongan king's family in Upolu and they set a trap. War broke out,and the poor Tongans were being slaughtered,they were running everywhere and it was brutal. You people mentioned something like the brutality of the Tongan warriors towards our Samoan people during that war the Samoans called"The freeing of the northern side of Savai'i from the Tongan".But that is not what our ancestors told us,they told us a very different stories, compared to what you are telling us here in your video. And you have to believe what our ancestors told us, Why? because our ancestors were there, doing the killing.You were not there. Our ancestors told us,they haven't seen anything like this before.The Tongan warriors cried like babies,when they are caught they behaved and cried like little children.These strange behaviours was noticed during and after the war.Samoans either laughed at them, or hated them.And this was the origin of the Samoan word called"fa'aToga".Fa'a-Toga means the cry for mercy of a Tongan warrior, or begging for mercy from a Tonga warrior.They make all these weird gestures begging their Samoan masters to spare their lives.Our ancestors told us,that it was so pathetic that these big men would cried like that.And you are telling us that they were brutal.Makes me laugh.
@@Cuhfromdaast Only in your dreams,you only wish Tonga did. But unfortunately,you have no evidences or even proofs that Tonga ruled SAMOA. Only made-up stories,fake news and fake history,even your name is a fake name. 2 things that comes to mind when people use fake names;First, they are liars secondly they are cowards.And that sums up the whole meaning of "fa'aToga".Cowards who cried like little children. Yes,yes,there were heaps of fa'aToga when you used to cry like babies,when you were enslaves for 3,000 years under the most powerful SAMOA EMPIRE aka THE TUIMANU'A EMPIRE. Samoa has the evidences and proofs that they ruled Tonga for many many many years,that's why they never stop crying for revenge.Also that's why they keep on producing these provocative films that causes division and hatred between the two race.I believe it's time to forgive and forget,don't you think?
@@pamatafili111 where is your proof we have carbon dating to back up Tongas claims Samoa doesn’t all just bull shit faikakala coming out of your nana and mums mouth
@@pamatafili111 get angry at your people for bowing down to tongan king for 3 centuries loser nation it took to people from tokelau to help your loser ass ancestor to ambush the Tongans
@@krzylocloc6945 the Samoans won the war in the 12th-13th century but people need to remember relations were good before the war Samoans and Tongans lived together in peace even the occupation of Northern Savai'i and Tutuila was peaceful it was only when tui tonga Talakaifaiki came into power that's when the war started but even after the war Tongans and Samoans still remained to have good realations🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@krzylocloc6945there was no war bro 🤦🏽♂️the guy who made this video is paranoid and a mad sore loser that his Ancestors were fkin slaves his source “my grandpa or dad told me” that’s why you took down your fckin video you fake ass haamoa🐓
I Hurt Different stories don't know what is true but it Epic story, I'm a Tongan, and what matters to me is that we are all brother and sister TOKOUSO done 😆😉
Tongas empire only had power in western Polynesia meaning they only ruled parts of samoa parts of Fiji uvea and Niue...they never ruled in eastern Polynesia such as the cookislands who stopped invasion attempts from the tongans and they sure as hell had no power in Tahiti or Hawaii. They would have easily been made food for them..I don't know why Tongans claim their empire was the equivalent to the Roman empire😂😂😂 tongas empire is all hype. And if your going to talk about the tongan empire pls use videos from tonga and stop taking bits and pieces from the other islands videos to make you look good😂
are you on crack, cook islanders or lalotonga were quarry slaves for the tongans, your asses were one of the first ones the tongans smashed in ancient times as the Ha'amonga stones and other large stones were brought to Tonga by the cook islanders as slaves of the tongans, as for Tahiti, the tongans held many of the islands in tahiti as forts, the tahitians never tried any shit with the tongans because each time they did, they got their assses handed to them, Bora Bora is one of the ancient forts the tongans held in that region and they called it Vava'u in ancient times, named after Vava'u island in Tonga, as for Hawaii, maybe ask the Hawaiians as they talk alot about the tongans in their history although the samoans like to claim it is they who were respected by the Hawaiians even though they don't talk about the samoans as much as they do the tongans and the close relations from ancient times, so go and do some proper research before you embarrass yourself some more.
how come you all dont accept these facts if tui manua did have an empire where are the evidence in each poly island he did conquer?? and yes yes we have the empire cause Captain james cook record everything lucky cook did this as an evidence for you all to see accept it
Mate what you on about😂😂😂 all islands in the east can trace their line back to the Tui Manu'a and there is evidence of it mainly found on other islands in carvings songs stories etc..just because there's no specific item that dates back thousands of yrs don't mean nothing it's just like believing that all polynesians came just from the lapita line😂. Now how do the tongans come in centuries after all of polynesia was well settled and they tried to lay claim to everything that was already there changing names of places that already had names..the Tongan empire was second hand to Samoa who did everything first..stop telling false history and leave your stories in western Polynesia.
It was 300 years and they only had control of Northern Savai'i and Tutuila plus they shared close friendship until tui tonga Talakaifaiki abused his power and the war started in Aleipata and ended in Fatuosofia
Theres alot of different takes of oppinions, views and stories over time......at the end of the day, each rules its own Island and expanded over the World. THE END.
That's bs the tui Tonga seen the willingness of the Samoans to die for there island and respected that and gave them there island bac they didn't defeat the Tongans ..the Tongans are the last remaining monarchy in the Pacific til this day a testament to the true Tongan warrior MATE MAA TONGA
This is a really made up story and facts number 1)There was no invitation because they composed a Samoan song on how and when is the right time to surprise them with the attack those Tongan that sitting on the kava party 2)Tonga has 3 King Dynasty Tu'i Tonga,Tu'i Ha'atakalaua and Tu'i Kanokupolu none of the other 2 with their warriors came to Samoa only the Tu'i Tonga was already there 3)The Samoan wasn't able to kill them all because the warriors that protected the Tu'i Tonga was able to survive and take the King to the Kalia (alia) and the Tu'i Tonga was shouted out loud to the Samoan on the shore ''MALIE TO'A ,MALIE TAU'' and from on that day the Samoan name 2 of their most highest chief Malietau and Malietoa.
The part about the feast is true, but stop the cap because we all know yall ambushed the tongans during the night and had the Tongan warriors split up in different places with your women etc that were involved in the revolt this is the only logical explanation because this video claims Samoans gathered Tongans for a feast and when Tongans arrived there were thousands of Samoan warriors waiting 😂😂 how would yall gather thousands of warriors in a vicinity that you don't even captivate, there were Tongan warriors in the island you think thousand warriors awaiting wouldn't go unnoticed
Samoans are humble people but tui tonga tried Taking over and some samoans refused to obey the tui to ga,finally samoa united and went to war defeated tonga 💪🇼🇸
