A good selection of games but honestly the absence of Cinemaware, Psygnosis, Bullfrog and Core Design games is unforgivable, they were some of the biggest developers for the Amiga. Glad to see Zool last, I always considered it overrated.
I too found Zool a disappointment. Superfrog beat it hands down in every count. Just a pity my copy was faulty and wouldn't load the end stage. Such a pity it wasn't included...
These old titles can’t make any money now so why not just let for example this have them for next to nothing, your old title may even get some publicity and the rights sold for a newer version. Always thought why a newer version of Carrier Command was never done when the concept was so brilliant.
I was in Greece and Holland during the late 80's early 90's... The Amiga was THE system of choice for gamers, period, back then. I had a large collection of games... fast forward to today, its interesting to see the top 10 or the top whatever list of games for this system Its definitely based on personal tastes of course, but when a system like this A500 is released, it does seem a shame that most likely due to license issues, most of the agreed upon best games can not be included... The good news is your personal favorites can be added; I just hope the process to do so is not too difficult. TV Sports Football, Dungeon Master, Shadow Of The Beast, Lotus Esprit Turbo Challenge, Earl Weaver Baseball, Eye Of The Beholder, ANY of the "Gold Box" Dungeons and Dragon Series, Insanity Flight, Super Hang On, and so many others were graphically fantastic for the times, but gameplay wise were really far ahead of their time. THAT is why there are still so many people who love the Amiga to this day... most of the OG's from back then are 45 to 65, and still are into those games, because yes, they do bring back very fond memories... I remember going to many computer shows back then and it was all Amiga, ALL the time... Too bad piracy destroyed the sales of the system and software, but we had a wonderful time with this system. Todays consoles wipe the floor graphically of course, but there was something special about the Amiga... there still is... Take care, everyone...
F-16 Combat Pilot is a weird choice. Wasn't it one of those sims that came with a 120-page manual and keyboard overlay? Not sure you could even get the plane off the ground without keyboard controls.
@@oldstylegaming I suspect you simply won't be able to play it without an external keyboard. It'll be one of those games that people who loved it back in the day will play, and most other people won't bother.
I can't wait to get this A500 to relive my childhood gaming memories. The line up is ok, not brilliant. However the ability to add all the games I loved is what interests me
great to see what these games are as i never really looked an an amiga, cool to see Simon on here as it's one of my favourite games series on pc. (5 of them and a few spin offs)
Great video mate. I'll keep my Mini Vanilla but make a games list in Igame on my real A1200 with these ones in it. Stunt Car Racer is in my top 5 best Amiga games of all time.
So many good games that could've been included, though for some the legal status could be preventing inclusion to the pack. One game I would have loved on the pack was Gem'X, but that is probably too obscure for most.
Moonstone couldn't appear due to the blood/gore. The presence of it would have meant the Mini would get a higher age rating and less stockists would be interested. So it was sadly dropped. Even with the gore mode turned off, some of the big monsters still splurt blood, and that isn't easy to disable.
High price for a not fully functional emulator. 3/4 of the games included with the system are mostly boring or just average. It's rubbish in my opinion, and so is the C64 mini. In both cases, the original systems are a bit more expensive than the mini ones. Sometimes you can even buy them cheaper. Only people who have an issue with space at home should reconsider buying this .... or just buy an older version of raspberry pi and make an emulation machine from it . In conclusion ... go buy the original hardware or just swap it for something more efficient.
I'm considering pulling trigger on this but a) wonder if they'll make a full-size version like with the C64 mini and b) perhaps wait until it's a bit cheaper.
yeah its a weird one mate...for collectors its a must have but as you say its not really practical and as you will see in this video things like Flight Sims and some other games simply cant work without a keyboard
There was no war between SWOS and Kick off. Take it from a person that doesn't like sports games and has his favorite Amiga game being SWOS. Its like when people say there was a war between Atari ST and the Amiga. No. :)
I’ve spent hundreds of hours on the C64 Maxi and I always wanted an Amiga. I’ve ordered the A500 mini of course but I’m hoping a maxi version of any Amiga comes out in the future.
Putty, Turrican, Lemmings, Cannon Fodder & Lotus Esprit 2 should all have been included on this. Installing downloaded roms is a nice touch though and I'm sure people will be putting these game on the mini themselves.
Not-so-fun fact: Titus the Fox in France is called "Mokhtar's Adventures", where the fox is replaced by some random French Arab dude called, you guessed it: Mokhtar. The game is based on a song called "La Zoubida", which got to the top of French charts and is a rendition of a nursery rhyme itself called "Sur le Pont du Nord" (On the North Bridge), where a young girl asks her mother to go to a ball on a bridge, but the latter refuses. Her brother comes on a golden boat and brings the girl to the ball, only to meet their fate after the collapse of the bridge. Plot twist: "La Zoubida" is a racist version of this song, where the brother is called Mokhtar and arrives on a golden moped which he "obviously" stole because he's an Arab, and he gets sent to jail while the girl will only get scolded.
I'll wait until they decide to bring out an Amiga A1200/4000 Maxi with a proper keyboard, an option to install a hard drive, the ability to install any legit version of amiga os depending on which cpu and Kickstarter versions you were emulating from 68000 to 68060 series and Kickstarter version to run, add extra ram by either emulating or installing physical ram sticks and be able to overclock the system as you obviously couldn't install an accelerator/gpu card or do you think I am asking for too much?
Mot of that is probably doable just by software upgrades, but for the sake of regular player it's better to have one predefined known working configuration for each game
Only Amiga Power gave ATR a bad review, all the other magazines liked it. F16 without keyboard though :bigoof: :facepalm:! Only 1 mouse game seems a bit of a waste given they're bundling a usb tank mouse. Will definitely by sideloading Cannon Fodder!
Hey OSG, not related to this video but I just received one of the cheapo AliExpress retro mini-consoles you reviewed a while back and it kicks arse! Would never have known they existed without your video on it. Big thanks!
oh you must be one of the lucky ones... like 90% have a great experience with them including me but ive heard some real nightmare stories from a few ...my advice is get another sd card and back the original up (clone it)
Never had a A500, and althought I still have my A600, i'm very tempted to get one of these. Was a massive fan of Speedball 2 back in the day, same for Simon The Sorcerer (aside for the disk swaps). Never played Another World, but loved Flashback so looks like I'd like Another World.. Agree with another comment here, Imagine if Moonstone was on this, that would have made it a must buy
Great list but one game I still haven't got my head arround or enjoyed is Speedball 2 I want to enjoy it but it just doesn't do it for me. SWOS, Cannon Fodder and Wizkid I would be very happy with if it was on the system
Its a good selection of games. Yes I am sure we could easily come up with our own stock 25 list that may or may not include ones listed here but I think this list is a good representation of the styles of games the Mig had, even if in some cases they aren't the best examples of them.
I wrote a trainer for Pinball Dreams so you could literally pick up the ball with the mouse and drag it where ever you wanted to get any bonus, there was an optional shield too that would bounce the ball back up before it went out of play.
I mean seriously TITUS THE FOX, A TITUS GAME OF ALL THINGS TO HAVE ON THERE, from the company that brought the internet Superman 64 to mock to oblivion.
Silkworm, swiv battle squadron, shadow of the beasts, menace, magic pockets, mean areanas, wing commander, James pond, unreal, xenon 2 mega blast, turrican but a few of what I would love to see.
Was excited when it was announced, and was looking forward to playing stable copies of Cannon Fodder, Syndicate and Wings [was expecting them to be on the list]. When they announced Kick Off 2 as being a pre-loaded game, the old bitterness kicked in. I'm not getting one.
A good selection of games that "had" to be included from the Amiga's wonderful back catalogue but some really poor inclusions too. As Psygnosis got swallowed up by Sony when they bulldozed their way into gaming and became SCEE that probably explains why none of their titles are included... In my opinion it should have been just Miggy exclusives to show why people to this day still play either on original hardware or via emulation, follow the scene and still develop for it. Battle Chess, The Lost Patrol, Paradroid '90, Qwak (I love the Bubble Bobble series and thought Qwak was a real gem) Project X SE, and everything you have included in your top 8 probably would have made my list to be fair although no matter what got included/left out will never satisfy all gaming preferences :) But why include Zool and Titus the Fox when you had Ruff N Tumble, Kid Chaos & Superfrog? ATR? I think the only other overhead vehicle game other than obviously Micro Machines worth a mention was Vison's wonderful Roadkill. Wizkid, Hunter, Fuzzball, Carrier Command, Myth, Jim Power, Gods, Disposable Hero, SWIV, Fiendish Freddy's Bit Top O Fun, The First Samurai, Hired Guns, Push Over, Cannon Fodder, Super Stardust, Turrican, Moonstone, Apidya, Batman The Movie, Extase, Fury of the Furries, Lotus Turbo Challenge II, Rick Dangerous... Far too many to list to be honest but some really quirky and fun original games just in that list that should have been considered for the short list for the end product... and why the Amiga was just so damn good :) Thanks for the video OSG :)
Shame no Wings, Robocop, Batman the Movie, Caped Crusader, North & South, Lemmings, Turrican2, Mega Lo Mania, Airbourne Ranger...to name a few, Airbourne Ranger is amazing on the C64 as well, which I own, and emulated on my Pi, AND my C64 Maxi
How does lag affect Kick Off 2 is going to be key for that one, also whether or not you can attach a usb microswitch joystick or not. You don't have the manual dexterity on a gamepad to play Kick Off 2 and you also need the audible feedback from the microswitches in a tactile sense. Another big thing for me is how easy it will be to add and obtain more whdload games, all my Amiga games are in adf format and I never had a whdload Amiga back in the day it was all games on floppy, so... Games I need to add: Wings Moonstone Rick Dangerous IK+ Cannon Fodder Maga Lo Mania Archer Mclean's Pool Super Stardust Risky Woods Hostages Rainbow Islands Rodland Xenon 2 Boxing Manager Anco Player Manager Sensible Soccer D-Generation
To many "gimmick" and party games on this selection. Granted, I spent lot of time on Pinbal dreams and Worms and such and had good time with mates, but if we are talking of that "gaming experience nostalgia feel", it is action-adventure-platform games (or adventures if you are a fan). You know, that feeling when you immerse yourself for hours invested in a game and it's lore and if co-op, it is even better. And who needs Amiga 3D games nowadays, if not only for curiosity and computer history purposes? Amiga action (platform) games hold up well even today. And apart from 3D driving games, non 3D driving games still look beautiful!
Isn't it typical how the much sought after SNES, Mega Drive and PC Engine minis are discontinued but the Amiga mini and C64 mini are still loitering around like a bad smell. No accounting for taste.
Zool - I never cared for this game. Then again, I'v never really liked Sonic either. It didn't help that my pirated copy of Zool took forever to load. Paradroid 90 - I like that the different robots have different appearances, but also, with the numbers, it makes it harder to tell what you're up against. I don't like that the deck plans are much simpler and only scroll vertically. I thought this was a crappy sequel to the original game. Stunt Car Racer - There's a hacked version that improves the framerate on faster machines. There's also a "TNT" version that adds new tracks. The WHDLoad for the TNT version also allows you to apply the framerate patch. Speedball 2 - Am I the only one who finds this game frustrating to play against the computer? I can max out all of the stats on all my players, but at the start of every match, the computer just mows my guy over like a truck going through cardboard boxes. The computer throws the ball down the field and one of his men is always in a perfect position to catch it. I throw the ball down the field and when it lands, all of my men (who were controlled by the computer while they were off the screen) are all off on the edges of the screen, nowhere near the ball. I also find it 100% impossible to use the score multiplying loops on the sides of the field. Every single time I throw the ball around them, the computer ALWAYS is right there to immediately throw it back and undo the multiplier. I have NEVER been able to throw it around that loop and have it stay against the computer.
No carrier command ………😢I know you can download games from places but they really needed 200 games and not 25 for me to go back for nostalgia at that price point. And that’s coming from an original Amiga owner in the day before I went PC. And even when said PC is a 2004 build now 😂 and I’m still not tempted. Rather put the cash into a new high end rig. If I see it for sale and I know the exact shop it will be in for £40 then maybe.
If they could just change out zool and Titus for turrican 2 and Eye of the beholder, that would be a sweet deal. And mebbees Simon for Monkey Island and SWOS for Speedball 2.
For what it's worth the ST version is better than the Amiga for Stunt Car Racer - faster CPU gives it a higher frame rate. Us ST fans need to take the wins where we can. Aside from that I think they got an absolutely brilliant selection of games. So what if you need to plug in a USB keyboard to play the flight sim, most people will have one of them lying around. The only thing I think missing is a dungeon crawler like Captive or one of later Amiga games like Amberstar etc.
It is faster i agree, ive said it a few times in videos and am planning a link play video in the future. They both great versions but i think that the amiga has a bigger game window on stuntcar. I agree about the keyboard too...but really they shouldnt put games on that need something that dont come with the system though
The only ones I played on my Amiga 500 from the list in the early 90s were Speedball 2 and Pinball Dreams. My favourites at the time were Sim City, Sensible Soccer and Formula 1 Grand Prix. I played Paradroid and California Games on the C64. I read that it comes with a controller. Don't you need a joystick to play Speedball 2?
nah it will work with a controller. I think they have missed a trick not having Sensi on like ...I know some people who would have bout it just for that game
The version of Zool on the Mini is the AGA version, and for me the screen is too busy. Also I think that Alien Breed 3D is using some of the optimisations available on THEA500 Mini and makes it a better game.
There are several games missing from this list that I remember playing a lot on the Amiga. Titles like Monkey Island 1 & 2, Day of the Tentacle, Elvira: Mistress of the dark, Elvira and the jaws of Cerberus, Beneath a steel sky and Moonstone: A hard days knight were all games I played heavily back on the Amiga 500. One more that I feel should be on there is Batman. Sure, it's just a side scrolling platformer but it came in the box with our machine. Also Defender of the Crown was synonymous with the Amiga.
Getting those games would have jacked up the price of the console tenfold, especially the Monkey Island games, when they are still making updated versions and off-shoots of those games today
I do not understand this product. It shoud show best of the best amiga games no mediocre ones. For example: Somene who has never had amiga (like me a PC owner) might think that there has never been a good platformer od that computer. I think they could get better licenses, more iconic games. I know nostalgia... but for that price is not enough for me. I understand that Another World is a great game, and i love it, but right now you can play "remastered" version for cheap on modern systems. You can buy on GOG and play Chaos engine, Alien bread, Worms or Simon the sorcerer without any fancy emulator machine.
Has anyone played James Pond II (Robocod) on this mini? I have the disks but my amiga 1200 is sitting in storage since the sound went on it ages ago. This is still graphically excellent as a platformer. No idea why this and other great Amiga games haven't been remade to be honest.
The two different games though mate.... sensi was released in 1992 and was good but swos was much better... and really i dont know anyone who is interested in the amiga who doesnt call it swos...even my 11 year old called it swos
Ah, the famous Amiga. A 16 bit 'powerhouse' that struggled to run both music and sound effects in game whilst Sega and Nintendo were doing this as standard even in their 8 bit consoles. 🙄
Missing alot of great games but at least you can sideload them to easily play them, but what I am wondering is this better then the software you can buy that emulates all the amiga versions and easily plays all the games...
not a bad selection of games but they've missed a trick by not including games like syndicate ,wings of fury ,lure of the temptress ,beneath a steel sky ,turrican 2 and cannon fodder
One thing I should mention (and I think you touched on it too). A lot of these games are pretty much impossible to play without a joystick and keyboard unless they have updated the controls. I tried to play Alien Breed a month or 2 ago on an XBOX 360 gamepad and it was impossible, it just didn't feel right and is not how these games were supposed to be played.
yeah im looking forward to seeing how they combat that problem...i would like to think that this has had some UAT testing before being released...I dont know how F-16 can work though without having to buy a usb keyboard
@@oldstylegaming No, I only had it on the Amiga. I knew you had to somehow interface with the robot things with a little ingame but had no idea how to do it.
@@oldstylegaming I just hope it's not like that Commodore 64 console with the cartridge system where a lot of the games released required you to press the ENTER key to start the game when there wasn't one!
Yeah ... its expensive... and i can say that as im obvs not good enough to get one for review lol... either that or they wont cos they know ill tell the truth
Disappointing that not a single strategy or management game is included. I'll be adding The Settlers, Dune 2, Civilization, Theme Park, Sim City, Centurion: Defender of Rome, and whatever else I can think of when the time comes 😀 Don't think I'll bother with the mini anyway. It'll be maxi all the way for me.
@@oldstylegaming You could be right. I can't see the point in the mini to be honest. Without a keyboard I might as well just emulate. Using Amibian on my Raspberry Pi does me just fine.
Well, I can understand why Sim City is not on the base console. It's owned by EA. Getting the rights to put that on the system would have cost an arm and a leg, which would also jack up the price of the mini itself.
There's some great games here for sure, but i'm actually amazed that Lemmings isn't one of them, as i'm sure many other folks will be too, as the impact that that game had one me all those years ago is never forgotten, and to this day it's still awesome to play. Same can be said for Cannon Fodder really, another belter not included, and I could list so many others too, but everyone's tastes vary eh? But as the saying goes, you cannot please all of the people all of the time, but you can of course add as many classics as you want via USB stick, and for keyboard controlled games, you can also plug in a USB keyboard! I'm looking forward to receiving mine soon which I pre-ordered the other day, even though I already own several Amiga machines, including a souped up CD32, but this will still be a lovely little thing to own and from other videos i've seen it does look super cute 😀 Another great video OSG, keep up the great work mate!! P.S. - No Top Banana either??? What they playing at man? 😀
Never did like speedball as a game. Ik+, Flood, lemmings, silkworm, space crusade, it came from the desert, syndicate, even the public domain game Tanx 👍
How comes you don't like ATR as much, but love Super Cars 2? I feel like it is sluggish and ugly compared to ATR, with the weapons being the only thing on the plus side. I ask as I had both games and ATR is one of my favourite Amiga games.
I just find supercars 2 more entertaining to be honest as a package ... it doesn't mean im right and your wrong though or vice versa ... everyone will have different favourite games, i dont hate ATR it just doesnt hold any nostalgia for me like supercars 1 and 2 does
No its a valid point and people said that when it was announced....it should have been the 600 or 1200 really but a500 is the most iconic i think so thats probably why
Being a Commodore fan boy (my career as a hardcore gamer dates back at the time when the Commodore 64 was released) I must say that almost none of these games are really classic Amiga games. I hope you can add you own favourite roms on this system otherwise I suppose it's completely a waste 🙄
you can add your own...but really for the price it should have had way more better titles on in my opinion...my wife and kids actually bought me one of these for xmas this year and I have to say I was a little annoyed as i just dont think its worth the money
This is a solid selection, and I'm particularly happy to see WormsDC included. It's the best version of Worms, and it's a shame so few got to experience it back I'm the day. As far as I am aware, this is the first time it has been re-released in any form.
I never could see the appeal of the Amiga other than for those getting cheap pirated games from market stalls back in the 90's (which is made all the more strange as market stalls also done swap a game plus a fiver for Megadrive and SNES games also). The Megadrive had The Chaos Engine and Speedball 2, so why would anyone bother with an Amiga? Considering what I've just said about the Amiga's only real USP in the 90's it's also Ironic that the type of kids that had an Amiga back then were also the type of kids that did well at maths and were probably going to grow up to become accountants, bookkeepers or estate agents etc but they seemingly couldn't care less about indulging in software piracy. 😂😂
@@bigbabatunde1218 Dude, the Amiga was amazing. :) For one thing, it was a fully fledged computer, with a powerful, properly multitasking OS. The hardware was far superior to contemporary home computers, at a fraction of the price. Most people I knew used it purely as a games machine, though. It was amazing for that too, with an enormous library, probably around 4000-6000 games. Obviously, not all of these were of great quality, but many were, and there was an amazing amount of variety, as the Amiga had numerous good games in just about every genre you could think of. As you say, piracy was extremely rampant, though. I'm guessing it may have helped the platform's popularity a bit, but it must have hurt it's commercial viability a bunch also, especially towards the end. Ultimately, the Amiga platform suffered from stagnation and mismanagement, but for about a decade, it was an amazing platform. :)
@@TheSwiftFalcon From a computer point of view, what you say may very well be true but I never heard any of the kids at school back then talk about how they were amazed at Deluxe Paint or whatever. I (no doubt as many others) have absolutely no idea what the Amiga was like for more formal computing tasks but it was always an annoyance to me (a non Amiga owner) that a lot of games seemingly couldn't run in game music AND sound FX together. More a sign of a struggling computer than an amazing one. The inclusion of a mouse with the Amiga mini seems pretty cool though even though I do suspect that it will be very limited in its modern day practicality. I don't have any specific problem with the Amiga mini being a thing, just disappointed that it's not the draw for me that other mini's have been over recent years. (Maybe disappointed is the wrong word as it should be relief as I now don't have to find space to set up and plug yet another device in to the TV).
@@bigbabatunde1218 I would humbly suggest that the awareness of Deluxe Paint among the kids at your school may not be an accurate measure of how good the Amiga was as a platform. :-) Different people used the Amiga for different things, including productivity stuff like graphics and music production (although the Atari ST is more well known for this), and general computing and office tasks. If you compare it to the computers at the time, the Amiga came out with 4096 colour graphics and 4 8-bit PCM sound channels at a time when PCs and Macs at several times the price typically provided EGA graphics and PC speaker noises. It was a massive leap forwards. This was in 1985. Comparing it to the Mega Drive, I think we should take into consideration that it was a dedicated games machine, released more than 3 years later. The A500 mini isn't just a capable of emulating the Amiga 500, though, it just as easily emulates later Amigas like the Amiga 1200 and CD32. Unlike most "minis", it is also set up to let you easily add your own games. The mouse is a useful inclusion, as a bunch of Amiga games used that as its primary control method. As I mentioned, the Amiga was home to numerous games in every genre, including mostly mouse driven things like strategy games, business sims and point-and-click adventures. A couple of the most iconic Amiga games, Lemmings (all 9 million versions) and Cannon Fodder are examples of games which benefit from mouse control. Of course, the Mini-computers/consoles are all about nostalgia, and if you don't have the nostalgia for Amiga computers, the A500 mini is probably not for you. :-) I completely understand this. For me it's the opposite though, the A500 mini is the first "mini" I've been interested in. This is in part because of my own massive nostalgia for the platform, in part because I love so many games in the Amiga library, and finally, because it lets you add your own games. The 25 included games are just a small sample of what's available, and RU-vid is full of suggestions for what to add these days.
@@TheSwiftFalcon You talk a good a game with no doubt a few valid points, especially the nostalgia factor associated for those who grew up with it. I've been interested in almost every mini that's been released but have only bought a few. I never grew up with the P.C Engine for example but was impressed with the old school shmups that were included on the Coregrafx mini as they exceeded my expectations as I genuinely didn't know how impressive they were for the time. Even At Games stuff is pretty interesting despite the abuse they have received for their products over the years. I like games of various sorts but for some reason I've never warmed to the Amiga or its games. I probably would have bought this but to me not only does the games look pretty dull (similar to the PlayStation mini's standard of game line up) it's also quite expensive for what it is. I thought that the Coregrafx mini was pushing it at £99 at release but to see that the Amiga mini is selling at $139 that people are paying in the U.S.A equals to around £75 in the U.K and how this Amiga mini is getting sold for £119 in the U.K to the home market and how it's not even scalpers prices, it's the recommended retail price (R.R.P). Its no real surprise that an Amiga mini would get released at some point considering the trend of mini consoles and most people realistically can't afford the money or the time to buy and play them all. So I'm content enough to sit this one out. P.S, I used to use a version of Cubase on Atari ST while I was training to be a sound engineer in the early 2000's but I suppose that's an Irrelevant point as the Atari ST was just running the sequencer program and not getting used to generate the actual sounds. I am also aware of the rivalry between Amiga and Atari ST owners back in the day so won't comment further on that at risk of making the thread a potential cesspit. 😂😂
