A worthy contender then, Beyer is on a roll. I would have thought using “Home” in the product name was marketing suicide however. “Home” to me translates as “amateur”, “consumer”, “mediocre”, pretty much the opposite of (the much overused) Pro. p.s. Don’t get any illusions of grandeur, but you are nailing these reviews lately. 👍🏼
Once again, well done on the review. You say lot of key points that's digestible in a short period of time (I'm sure your time editing is not so short though :D). Hopefully your channel continues to grow so it's able to help a broader audience make educated decisions. With that said, I do have one critique. In hopes to maintain clarity across your reviews. Try to distinguish the difference between sensitivity and efficiency (I mean keep the facts straight). I know it might seem trivial... and I know it may seem odd for me to request this but ignoring it brings so much confusion around the "power" topic. Sensitivity of 102 dB could be interpreted short hand as saying sensitivity of 102 dB/ V (with the "per Volt" implicitly implied). However, these headphones have an "efficiency" of 102 dB/ mW not "sensitivity". The per mW units is important. The "sensitivity" of the headphone is 108 dB / V. Once again pay attention to the units per V (which is actually Vrms but that'll just introduce confusion if you say Vrms). It gets confusing because manufactures often say "sensitivity" but list the efficiecy and vice versa (so your not exactly strickly wrong if you were to say sensitivity102 dB/ mW - but at least say the full units and at best just correct the manufactures and say efficiency when needed). The easiest way to tell if they're talking about efficiency or sensitivity is by looking at the units ( per mW or per V). Oh, and sometimes they have a per 500Hz or 1000Hz. That's just the frequency they used to test sensitivity/efficiency. It's probably best you don't mention the tested frequency or you'll just confuse ppl and/or sound like a mouth full. By keeping the facts straight you can properly compare the 108 dB / V Amiron Home headphones to other headphones sensitivities. It goes without saying now the Amiron Home is actually nearing many ear bud sensitivities. It's quite impressive at 250 ohms. When you said 102 dB I mentally thought about the Senn HD 650 sensitivity of 102 dB/V. These headphones are not equal by a long shot. Do you see my point now about confusion? Sorry if I sounded too condescending or direct. It's just 99.999% of youtubers make these mistakes and never go corrected. And the next generation of youtubers follow in their steps. It'd be nice to break the cycle, yes? I was even thinking maybe this could be a "lets talk ep 10" : impedance, sensitivity, and efficiency. how they're related to each other and what you need to know. If something about that topic is unclear to you just ask and i'll try to clear it up. I even have a theory why people use/talk about impedance as if it were the efficiency.... when the efficiency is already computed and printed on the box. It's like comparing the weight of two cars when you really just want to know which car gets better gas mileage on the freeway.
Noted - Will try to adjust. (before you freak, though, fair warning. I have a couple reviews already filmed that may contain the same error). Also, I cleared it, but, your comment went into SPAM, most likely due to length. I check my spam for these things, but others may not. I would just copy the bottom half, delete, and post it in a separate 1/2 and 2/2 comments. May help prevent issues.
I'll survive and wont' freak out. I'm glad you're aware of it now. It's really not a huge deal but it's also an easy fix. In case you were wondering, the conversion can be done using the formula S - 30 +10*log(R) = E. Where S is sensitivity, R is impedance/resistance, and E is efficiency. I don't expect ya to use that formula. It's more of a in case you were wondering and may help clear up the confusion. Thanks for the heads up about my comment being spam. I wasn't aware that'd happen.
Try the Amiron Home with the DT 1990 balanced pads. Adds soundstage but doesn't lose any sound signature (assuming because of the extra seal around the ears). They suddenly become a great option for gaming.
A great investment, in 50 years of listening to music on phones these are the best headphones I've owned. Comfortable to wear and the sound quality is beautiful- everything is so well balanced. I never get fatigued wearing or listening to these phones.
Hey just found your channel. Great videos. Had to do a double take after looking at your subs count, the quality of videos far surpasses the channel size. Respect. On a side note, do you plan on reviewing the Hifiman Sundara?
Hi! Thanks for another good review. I am considering these, but still unsure about sibilance. In your opinion, which headphones are the best for female vocals?
The "S" problem i had with every Beyerdynamic headphone. Im very sensitive to this problem occuring if treble is more present than its needed. Thats why i prefer Sennheiser. I just dont find that problem there. Also the M1060 and LCD2 and LCD2C dont have that problem. Its also the only thing i sometimes dont like on the Philips X2. It has a tonality somewhere between Beyerdynamics treble and Sennheiser warmth a midrange thats not as recessed as Beyer and not as forward as Sennheiser. Only it has more Subbass (For most too much and i agree its not in line with neutral or natural) and a really big soundstage and good imaging. AKG wasnt so bad either with the "S" problem, but i always found them a tad too hollow. AKG soundeds plasticy sometimes. Beyerdynmic sounded to metallic for me. Sennheiser as i said in other comments hits just the right tone for me. Almost a wooden tonality like Walnut :D But a disclaimer i dont own the Beyerdynamic Amiron, so i cant say if i would have the problem there either.
I put the analytical pads from the Dt1900 and put them on the am iron home and they sound like a new pair of headphones, the vocals sound more forward now in my opinion
I compared this headphones with old 990 PRO. In my Dac+amp that i normally played 990 amiron sounds much worst than 990. With Aune X1s they sounds diffrend but similar in some areas. BUT there was not diffrence in overall quality of sound. The sounds just diffrent, byt they are also more than 3 times more expensive.
Would you say the clamp force is comparable to that of the DT 880? because those are about the most comfortable headphones I've ever used and the higher clamp force of the DT 1990 took some getting used to for me coming from the 880.
I know this is old but maybe some advice on how to replace the earpads on these. I really like these but do not like the feel of the pads. Seen videos of other beyerdynamic pad replacement but cannot find one on these. Any advice is helpful. thanks
I couldn’t stand the pads, and they’re so difficult to remove I just ended up returning the headphones. The DT 1990s are more clampy to be sure but I’m much happier with those headphones. Though I did replace the pads on the 1990s with the Dekoni Elite Velour.
I love my DT 1990 but they give me headaches. They are not suitable for all day usage with all types of content. I'll go for Amiron Home. Looks like they are better fit for me. How is this compared to Sundara though ?
The Sundara's have more balanced tuning but less bass as compared to the Amiron Homes. The one issue with the Sundaras might be the fit if you have large ears, and that Hifiman is known for some build quality consistency issues. Most people however would consider the Sundara a better value.
Depends on the usecase. From technology pov yes - the tygr use the "budget-drivers" of beyerdynamic - similar to 770 I guess. Then there are the MMX 330 with the new Stellar.45 drivers, which als the 700 & 900 Pro X use. And above these come the "midFi Tesla" drivers used in Amiron, 1770, 1990 (and T1/T5 would be the high-end Tesla-drivers). So yes - the drivers in the Amiron Home are two steps up, from what you find in the tygr 300r. For Music listening I would clearly say YES - they are an upgrade. For Gaming... maybe the MMX are more optimized to locate the enemy - his footsteps may sound better on the Amiron, but you could have a benefit locating these footsteps on the MMX (I only have the Amrion myself - so this is theoretically as I also don't play FP-shooters).
When I compared direct with the 1990, I didn't like the bloated bass of the Amiron and thought It was overall mushy and unrefined. I think I should give it another go. Edit: Also, the Hifiman Sundara was in the comparison, and I liked the Sundara more than the Amiron. I wouldn't get a Hifiman headphone again though. Shoddy build/QC issues with them.
its just like any othet beyer, just slide them on. BUT i wanna slam these cans and destroy them every time i have to put the pads on. its so difficoult like beyer wants us to be angry. dont need to slide, justpull and squese thyem down.. but i know why these are harder. i put the pads to my 990 on the amiron on, in like 5 sec. 990 pads have harder meterial on the rings around the pad, that is all to it. they shoul make that material like all other dt series..
Better late than never. Lol. I own both. Amiron have slightly more treble but both have excellent treble detail. Mids are about the same. Bass...a lot more bass with the Amiron, and it bleeds a tad into the mids. K712 has perfectly neutral bass, maybe a 1 or 2db lift above neutral. Both have excellent mids and bass.
I auditioned these today and what came to my mind was exactly that they sound like my hd58x in terms of overall frequency response and tonality but they sounded more open, better staging and imaging and better extension on both ends compared to the 58x. They seemed like a refined, deluxe 58X to me. If you like the 58X a lot already and wanted what sounds to me like a better version of that, then I think you'll like the amiron home. I certainly did. If you want something different to the 58X then I'd look elsewhere. The 58X is already incredible value and these are definitely not twice as good but cost more than twice as much.
It’s nineteen ninety and seventeen seventy, you moron. And if you actually do some research you’d realize it is indeed relevant for those in the market for Beyerdynamic. I wouldn’t have been so rude had you not been such a jerk. You’re not paying the guy, now are you?
