When I was camping last summer I was at a park near Lake Ontario north of me. A lot of them rode bicycles and there was a couple horse wagons I had my electric bicycle and a couple of the guys came over and talked to me they were really nice and respectful. Well the Amish stick together more than people out here. Nobody came to my house when my son died and I didn't even get to have a funeral for my own son. I raised my boys myself in Batavia New York my kid's mother took the remains home and never brought them back and I almost got arrested cuz of what I told her because it's horrific not to be able to mourn at a funeral with other people and have closure. It should be illegal but it's not and I will never speak to my kid's mother again cuz I have nothing good to say I don't know what the Amish people do but I believe you're supposed to forgive people and I'm not going to on this case ever! People where I live used to have funerals in the house I live in they call it the parlor. Wow that's a lot of wagons I think the Amish people will out survive anybody on earth besides Farmers like me while I used to be a farmer I can survive anything
I m sorry for your son oh God 🙏 is very sad to go to your son funeral and be alone without your family and your friends.i'm sorry my English it's not good.I was crying it's so emotional
What town are you from I have a first cousin in Sioux Falls or around that area his name is Dan mast maybe you know him. I'm in Northern Indiana right now
@@LetArtsLive Apparently the Amish are stronger than both of us. I couldn't / wouldn't forgive that either. Someone could ruin my life on accident and I could very likely get over it. However... the slightest infraction, with intent, and we have an ongoing problem. On the other hand, don't allow someone to take up space in your head without paying rent. This transgression is 100% on them. If closure was meant to be, it will come. Be patient & pay attention.
I grew up in a farming community in the post war years. Up until the late 1960s, the community rallied around the family of the deceased. Food was brought, and the house cleaned. Family, neighbors, friends were there until no longer needed. Then the immediate family continued to help. My father's mother lost her husband just before Pearl Harbor happened. She was watched over and cared for by her daughters and son and the grandchildren. She moved into our home during the 1970s and lived there until she passed away. She lived as a widow almost forty years and never had a care for a roof over her head or food or any other need. We should still be so loving toward our people.
Not Amish. Having being widowed suddenly at 47 services over, yes you are abandoned. I washed a load of laundry 14 times just could not put in dryer. Silly but true, especially counting. What and who got me through one kiss or hug at a time were my dogs.
@@believeinjesus8862 since I am not affiliated to any church, a friend held my husbands memorial at his church. I know his church members meant well when saying things to me like “ he is in God’s hands now ( a good God would not take him ) God needed him ( Not as much as I needed him ) God gave you many years with him ( no we still had at least 30+ years left) etc etc. None of these words were comforting. Who is he to take a good man when you let the likes of Manson rot in jail. I know this is why I found so much comfort in my animals. I would never embarrass my friend but I wanted to scream out on how non comforting those words are and now I know why I belong to no church!
@@BJ2020_ask God about this, he is good by default, what The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit do, or allow, can at times be very hard, even seeming harsh, but there always is a reason behind it, and you can ask God and he will lovingly give you an answer. are you saved too? 💚 I talk to him daily and he is love let me tell you! I hope your husband is home cause Jesus is coming for his bride soon! 🫂
My sister lost her husband 3 months ago very unexpectedly. The area they lived in, really rallied around get and even came and mowed their lawn this summer so she didn't have to. You are so right, yes while its good to surround them right after, they need more then just that week or so. He was ready to go and we are so thankful!
This is similar to the Appalachian Baptists I grew up with in Southeast Kentucky, there was always the body at home or in a church for a 24 hr wake where the body is not left alone that last night going into the burial service the following day, typically 2 days preceding this of 3 to 4 hr viewings with church service and singings, at the funeral a pass by Farewell by the attenders to the family, I too think these traditional practices are much better than modern funerals, people provide help and food and look out for their neighbors and extended family
Very similar to Maori funerals in New Zealand, even down to the helping fill the grave in. I'm not Maori but agree, these funeral traditions are so much better than modern funerals.
Same thing in the Philippines, which are predominantly Catholic. A lot of local Wakes are held in the deceased’s home where there is a 24 vigil for week, Family and Friend would gather around and held Dirges and Mass during the night. If the home is quite small the area of the wake would extend into the street where they would closed one lane and set up Tarpaulin and chairs and tables. A lot of those keeping vigil outside would go around drinking and sing terrible Karaoke in the street much to the annoyance to the neighbors who have to go to work in the morning.
In my Moms family they waked the dead at home until the funeral. Someone was always up 24/7 and food and beverages served to family who were coming from long distances. I vividly remember my Mom's dad's wake when I was four.
Thank you for sharing factual information with us. You have a very nice voice, clear, and a respectful way of presenting important information. May you be richly blessed .
If somebody comiting suicaid probably was mentally sick and suffering so WAY punish and humiliate his family? That’s not love of God .that’s human cruelty
I agree wholeheartedly that we should not just leave the family in need after losing a loved one. Even after chores, harvesting, or auctions are done, we should be involved with them to get them through the mourning period. They need the support after the funeral too.
This is such an important comment!!! I know from experience. In Sept 2021 my husband died from COVID and we were left totally alone. My parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc, never even called to check on us. Because of the circumstances in our situation there was no funeral. My husband was cremated (he wanted it that way but I still have trouble with it) and I had his remains split between me and his sister. I felt as if it was the right thing to do, especially since we lived fairly far from his family. His sister kept in contact, but it was nothing more than a ruse, all about some money. Once the money was a no-go we never heard from her again. The only contact I've had with my in-laws since then was at the funeral of one of our granddaughters. Only two of my brothers in law spoke to me. I talked to one nephew, whom I hadn't seen since he was a baby, and a niece who still stays in touch with me. My family members turned their backs on us when we needed them the most. And for petty reasons. My mother went so far as to tell my daughter it was "stupid" to want to see her dad before he passed away. I can't grasp how someone can even think that's ok to say to their grandchild. My daughter was 24 at the time but it didn't hurt her any less than if she had been 14. I've had two cousins who actually came to my house. One is the daughter of the other and she grew up with my kids. Otherwise, no support of any kind from my immediate family and almost none from other family members. My work family became my real family at that point. They are the ones who hugged me and allowed me to cry on their shoulders. My husband and I had been separated at the time of his death but we had children, grandchildren and over 25 years of history together. I'm human, it hurt. More than I thought it would. I do believe God spared him from going through the tragic loss of our second oldest granddaughter on May 24th of this year. I FIRMLY believe if he'd been alive when that happened, we would have been dealing with both their deaths at the same time. It would have just been too much.. I know God did the best thing for us in a bad situation. But I do believe support is needed for those dealing with the loss of a loved one. And don't just assume someone else is checking in. The pain my heart suffered from the abandonment of those related to me in my time of grief still haunts me a year later. I don't want anyone else going through that. When my granddaughter passed away it was due to a school shooting and the whole world rallied around the families. I am unbelievably grateful for that. But it shouldn't take the deaths of 21 people on at an elementary school to bring out the goodness in our fellow man. Yes, we deal with death and loss every day in this world, but we should NEVER have to deal with it alone.
I'm not religious or anything, but I agree to that. It's amazing that the neighbours come and take over the chores. But in my country, of a close relative die, you can get a sick leave app 2 weeks. Paid BTW. But it's coincidental how many people you have to support you. Since most elderly over 70 in my country works, it must be the children or other relatives. If you don't have any relatives (and it's not that uncommon, some die alone) it's the county that takes care of the funeral. Then it's cremation and an urn in a common grave, unless you have a testament to demand otherwise.
Yep... I agree. I was (unfortunately) able to attend a funeral for one of the Amish community members (who I used to drive for) who succumbed to his injuries sustained in a accident that happened. He and his family were hit by a car that "didn't see the buggy", and he was in a comma for 2months, before he passed away. During that period time, I drove the family down to the hospital he was at so that they could spend time to sing to him through an open window(this was Covid period, and they were not allowing anyone inside, and luckily it was a ground level room). It was beautiful to hear them singing, by the way. When he passed away, I was so overwhelmed with the outpouring of love and support for the family from not just the community we were in, but from all over Michigan. The days of the funeral (it was like a 3 day ordeal), the final day, I went to the funeral and I was shocked! There was over 900 people that came from all OVER the USA AND CANADA(Ontario). Keep in mind. This Amish community was the 2nd northern most (at the time) community in Michigan. It was also small(maybe 20 families).
@@dawnchain1020 try driving at 55 mph at night and coming over a hill and there's the buggy! When I am driving in Amish area, I am always watching for them!
Our family was so separated that when my Momma died, I was the only one with her. Afterwards, my co-workers were there with me. I was sort of glad that people were less attentive as I just wanted and needed to be alone to work through the idea that Momma was gone.
I just found you on RU-vid yesterday thank you for sharing things with us. I’ve always been curious about the Amish. I live in Kansas, and we have an Amish community in the next county over there. real nice people it’s nice to kind of know a little about how they do things
Recently had a young Amish boy pass in a tragic accident. My dads a farmer and works closely with this family (this family in particular taps our trees for maple syrup) so, my dad and I took a cake over to the home.. the one thing that stood out to me was how nobody was shedding a single tear. They were all visiting... the man who greeted my and and I in the driveway one of the first things he asked was if we wanted to see the child. I declined because I didn't want to invade on their personal thing and because I knew I'd bawl like a baby.. but I was shocked.. not bad shocked but just... the acceptance and the understanding was overwhelming.
Being from Alaska, we found the Amish culture very interesting. Traveling through Pennsylvania we stopped at a farm selling eggs. We talked with the oldest brother for about an hour. Very pleasant and educating visit. Abraham was as curious about Alaska as we were his community. Thoroughly enjoyed your video. Christ is all about grace, unmerited favor. A beautiful gift. Looking forward to future videos👍👍
I been to one Amish funeral, my first and very likely my last. It was for my aunt. Because there's a large amount of people in the family that don't know PA Dutch, they had two services for her, English inside the house and PA Dutch in a tent at the same time. It was an interesting experience and there's a number similarly between the Amish and Mennonite/Beachy.
I agree! I plan to be cremated, and I've told friends to mix my ashes with potting soil and plant a tree instead of spending $10K on a plot of land and a fancy box, then go have a party with food, music and laughter. I'm 56 and have many friends and family on the Other Side, so my death will be a happy time for me. I don't want people crying over me!
Ex Holmes County Amish fella here. I think one of the things that helps Amish families cope and grieve the loss of the family member is other families of that congregation and ones nearby will come visit on Sunday afternoons or sometimes in the evening during the week. And they might not specifically talk very much about the family member that passed, but they understand the reason they are there to visit and the conversations along with also the biweekly church services helps give the feeling of some form of normalcy even if it might only be for a few hours
Sadly families don't look out for one another anymore, my aunt made food and I helped too and she was surprised people just assume it's gonna be catered nowadays, I didn't go with my aunt it was her former sil's mom but later on after the meal when she came home she said we were the only people who made food! I guess I'm old fashioned because if there's been a accident or a sick family member that's near critical I'm gonna make a meal and take it over or I'll have my husband drop it off because sadly im the only family member that still does that (56y.o) I don't care if the young ones make fun of me .
Really?! I thought ALL families/cultures helped with chores/finances and cooked for funerals! Shoot, we had food for weeks, and family/friends donated money to us when my dad passed. For context, I’m from a Latino family
This is wonderful…..I grew up in the south….and we always brought food and helped out the family any way we could. Someone would stay whether family or friends. Ongoing help is always needed both at home and possibly counseling as well.
Been awhile since I've watched one of your vids. You said something very important...we could learn so much from our Amish neighbors about real community.
You have a beautiful dog! I have always wondered. I grew up near a Mennonite community and they did some of the same things you talk about. Also, where I am originally from in Upstate NY, they occasionally dug extra graves in the fall, in anticipation of winter deaths.
When my grandpa passed away, the church placed us ex-Amish folks farther from the casket (all of them were my grandpa's children, grandchildren, and spouses to the kids). My ex-Amish cousin and his family came in late and the church was full so they pulled up a few more chairs and placed him directly in front of the casket 😆 after we all filed past and my grandma was up by the casket one more time, 3 or 4 of her ex- Amish kids went up and put their arm around her. So that was pretty cool. Something the Amish wouldn't do.
Also, the ex-Amish kids were excited for him. Yes it's a change but my grandpa had lived a full life and was ready to go. He had a few experiences in his last weeks that we know he's in heaven.
The interesting part is, the mourning part stop once the graveside service is over. I was a little surprised and asked my dad about it and he said, oh that's common. I been to one Amish funeral which was for my aunt and everyone want to talk to me afterwards. I met a number of my distance family for the first time. Alot of them are my second and third cousins.
@@oceanlover1663 In my religion it's a bit different. We wash and bury the body quick, ASAP. We have a Janazah prayer and bury the body within 24 hours, if possible. There is argument over autopsies. We don't embalm the dead. If the death is unexpected, we the Janazah and burial as quickly as possible, even if not within 24 hours. Members of the community will typically leave the family alone other than give them food. We don't do the "reception where the family provides food for people". "They just lost a loved one...and now they're supposed to ENTERTAIN you?" kind of thing. Some mosques apparently don't allow women to attend the Janazah, however, there is no evidence from Qur'an or Hadith for this. However, women should not go to the graveyard.
I watch a RU-vid channel called "Kari the Mortician". She answers questions that her viewers ask her and one of the questions was about female morticians at Muslim funerals. She lives in Michigan, so things might be different where you live. I say that with respect and sincerity. She said if the deceased is male, only men were allowed to attend to the deceased, go to the cemetery, etc. If the deceased was female, only women were allowed. To me, a Christian, that sounds very respectful. As someone who is very modest when it comes to being in public, I appreciated the separation of the sexes, even after death. I watched a video several years ago where the deceased was an infant. The man attending to the body, bathed them under a cover for the sake of modesty.
Thank you very much CJ for explaining this funeral process and Also for explaining the old order Amish process since they are much more strict like my community in Kenton. The Dan church is even a level stricter when it comes to someone leaving the Amish church
I am glad you left and have your freedom, your a good man. i am sure being amish may have done you some good, but living with that much control is ridiculous.
I'm 21 years old and lost my dad a few months ago. It's been hard; but my mom, my brothers and I have been so blessed to be part of a faithful, Bible-believing church whose members have truly demonstrated the love of Christ to us as His Body. Even three months after, we're still being provided with occasional meals, financial help, phone calls to check in on us, and countless other things. It almost brings me to tears thinking about how this indescribable love others are showing us is just a small reflection of how much Christ first loved us. As far as I know, my dad wasn't a believer. I just have to trust my dad to God's care - knowing that God pursues the lost sheep and is all-wise, never making mistakes. The situation brings to mind both a song I've been listening to by the Gettys: "The Perfect Wisdom of Our God"; and Isaiah 55:8-9: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." (ESV) Thanks for the video, and blessings.
I belong to an Apostolic Pentecostal church and we call the gather of family and friends as a “Celebration of Life “, because we know they’re with Jesus! ❤️✝️
This is going to be incredibly long so I'll apologize in advance. A dear friend that some here may have heard of (Dr. Carl Sagan, famous scientist / astronomer & tv personality) passed away. I was devistated. Adding to that I was asked not to come to his funeral as it was intended for family only. (That turned out to not be true!) His death hit me much harder than expected and I needed closure. After his funeral I traveled to NY, found an "unmarked" but freshly disturbed grave right next to his parents. Obviously belonging to my friend. Before I had a chance to say Goodbye, I couldn't help but notice among the flowers, a radio-telescope made of Lego bricks. Obviously a tribute from Carl's very young son Sam. That hit me like a truck! I was so wrapped up in my own grief that little Sam never crossed my mind. Now I'm not (usually) very emotional, but that was way over the top. Once again, I wasn't able to say "goodbye". Biting my lip, I pushed my feelings deep inside myself. Fast forward years later... Nasa had a program for kids "Send Your Name To Mars" where kids could submit their name to be added to a DVD that would travel to Mars. While I was aware of it, didn't think much of it other than it was a neat idea. Fast forward again, I was at NASA in California watching the live video feed of the Mars rovers, "Spirit & Opportunity" as they were deployed. While the first was slowly driving off the platform I noticed the camera pan over the DVD! It was fastened to the platform with three Lego bricks held down with screws! I about fell over! Evidently someone else saw Sam's tribute to his father and took it a step further. The surface of the DVD had a binary code printed on it. The first few kids to successfully decode the message won a special assortment of Lego bricks. FYI The message was... "Wish you were here." For those interested Google "Mars DVD" for images. It should be available. Anyway, I finally got the closure I so desperately needed. Once again, I'm not religious but that's nothing short of a miracle. It's pretty humbling to think GOD would take the time to make something like that happen for someone as insignificant as me. So... if you ever need a sign from GOD, first & foremost, be patient... he's busy! Second, don't expect it to obvious... it can come from any direction and not even close to what you might expect. So pay attention!
I'm new here but love your channel. While there are many aspects of the Amish lifestyle that I'm genuinely impressed with, there are a few (very few) I can't agree with. One topic you mentioned was "going to Hell". Apparently the Amish leaders either didn't read The Bible or had difficulties comprehending what it says. While I'm not at all religious, I have studied The Bible in great length. It is common belief that if one doesn't believe in GOD, they are destined to "burn in Hell for eternity." First thing, NOWHERE in The Bible does it state that! That myth comes from the book Dante's Inferno. Some have used it to coerce others into submission into various religions. For example, as a parent, is there ANYTHING your child could do to warrant such a punishment as burning in Hell for eternity? Think hard... burning sucks and eternity is a very long time. Now... all that for simply not worshipping you? There is absolutely no way anyone will ever convince me that GOD is capable of such drastic measure. What about an infant or child or even an adult with mental illness that isn't capable of comprehending GOD? Using the same logic, what happens to them? Are they subject to severe punishment over something they had no control over? After watching several of your videos... in a row, it saddens me that I chose this one to comment on first. I'm certain that I failed to make a favorable impression. For that I apologize... but felt it needed to be stated. I'm both intrigued and impressed with the Amish in general and have a plethora of questions I'd like to ask. I sincerely hope that my initial introduction hasn't burned a bridge. I live on a ranch in Arizona so due to logistics alone, it's unlikely we can meet in person. Perhaps if you are willing, you can answer decades worth of questions via email. Thanks.
I truly love your candidness and your personal conviction. I wish more Christians would show that part of their faith. Your videos are teaching me more about my neighbors here in Wyoming. Mennonites are thriving in our small community of Basin Wyoming. Their kids have their own school, they provide a very no nonsense workforce to some small businesses, and not all farm. Some have construction, and various other manual labor services. Their church services are even open to the public.
Where I live, I’m close to several Amish communities. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with the people I’ve met. Of course, my interaction has been from the outside. I’ve often wondered about the people such as yourself that has chosen to leave the community and I have to say this… I can’t imagine how hard it was to leave. I know there’s things you probably keep close to your heart that you don’t care to share, which I totally understand. The best thing about your leaving is learning about the love and grace of Jesus Christ. There’s a totally different outlook between the preaching of the Amish (almost seems to be totally Old Testament teaching) of course this is my opinion. May the Lord bless you and give you deep peace brother.
Good job C.J. I don't believe Amish invest in expensive vaults, either. During COVID-19. I missed several Amish funerals in IN when aunts and uncles passed away. When an aunt passed, her children and spouses came from KS, MO, PA, and elsewhere. 13 out of 14 got the virus. Her sister died a few weeks later. It was a very sad season and I was not able to be with my family. I was able to be in IN Labor Day weekend and go to reunions and love on my family and meet cousins and their families. While I was in Goshen, my brother died. It was special that some of those cousins came to his viewing or funeral. God bless family support!! Keep up your teaching of our ancestral ways. Appreciate it.
When my dad passed away no family or he's friend's did not bring me nothing .....they did the same when my mother passed 4 years later..l lived in there home.then my dad gave me the house.but no one came checked on me..l am 68 and l had a hard time dealing with everyone doing this..it saden me to this day.they all ways we t to church .but no one came..
That is so loving for the Amish community! When my family died, grand parents, then my mom and dad. All died within 2 years. I was 19 at the end of all their lives. I had no support from my extended family. I am 70 and still hurts today.
I think that is not fair to exclude family members who left Amish community when a family member passed . They still love that person just as much as the ones who are still Amish.
Back in the day , when someone passed away , like he said , the community would come clean your house , bring cooked foods, do what ever needs to be done . Those days are LONG GONE !! SMH
unfortunately, as a culture, we have given up 'community' with everyone working and scheduled activities -- nobody knows their neighbor because they are never home and when they do , they are frightened to even say hello to someone else
I mentioned to my father that I thought spending a fortune on a casket / coffin the family will only see for a short time was foolish. His reply was great! He said buy it early then before it's needed you can use it as a coffee table, storage and even a guest bed for the in-laws when they insist on visiting. That last one, all by itself, would make it worth any price!
I've always wanted a toe-pincher casket (popular in the 1800s Old West) so I could use it as a coffee table in life and use it to store momentos that I want to be buried with. When I die, cremate me, add my ashes and place in the grave.
They were not Amish but my mother and father grew-up on farms. Now, mom is now 87 and dad would've been in his 90's but the description of how the community comes together with the Amish sounds like how the farm community comes together at least in my parent's time.
This sounds very similar to a Jewish funeral. Except Jews don't have viewings and open coffins. Similar rules for suicides, as well. Also simple coffins bc everyone is ultimately equal before God, no matter their station in this life.
The idea of community continuing to look after others that have had their lives forever changed by death of a father, mother etc.. just doesn't seem to exist any more. I think we all yearn for it but it's hard to get back once it is gone.
there are still some that do it -- but for the most part, our culture has changed to an everyone for themselves culture -- but consider why it happens --- as a culture in general -- we drop our children off at day care at six weeks old to fend for themselves....
Each if us can initiate the change by DOING ourselves what we would like to see happen. Others will observe and maybe join in. A pebble in a pool of water. 😅
@@beloveddaughter8585 exactly! Always 'love' the comments from others when they say 'they should..." No - you start and let everyone else follow :-) So easy to tell others what they should do...
Our son died in the first weeks of Lockdown we couldn’t even have a funeral as no guidelines were laid out at the time Even my family which is large were not permitted to come to our home. Not only did we suffer a loss but also missed the closeness of family
I grew up in Berks County Pennsylvania. Those were very strick up there. Things have very much changed over the years. I'm in Kentucky now, the Amish community here is very relaxed.
Similar to other Christian relgions but like you I believe at the time of death the soul goes for judgement and hopefully to heaven. One thing that is very distressing to me as an animal lover is the way the Amish treat their horses and other livestock. Appalling.
The English could learn a lot about caring for their community from the Amish! And yeah I grew up around the Amish. I grew up in Illinois near Arcola and the Amish community there. Very nice people.
My great grandma lived in Trilla and later Mattoon. She taught me alot about Amish in the area. I think I was around 14 when I saw a teen girl get into a car with a boy. Back then I didnt yet know about rumspringa. I thought oh boy if her parents found out she would be in trouble. Now 67 and still love learning about the different amish sects. Things have changed for them thru time as well, just not like the English.
my doctor is an ex Amish. from Ohio, her mom and dad were shunned. Well her daddy was, but the entire family left. I ABSOLUTELY love her, and her work. 🥰🥰🥰 They should be proud of her. PNWU.. she is one of the founders.
I take food to the family of one who passed away. People always ask why I do that. That's what I was thought and seen. I think what you said about the church and others is perfect. We all should go back to doing some ways of respect.
When he described the day of the funeral, I said to myself “Oh! It’s just like a Black funeral!” I mean all the way down to the length of time for the funeral and having the meal where the service was held after coming back from the cemetery. The one difference is that only the people from the funeral home are allowed to put the dirt on the casket because it’s too dangerous getting near the grave. After reading some of the other comments, I realized that I needed to add some info. First thing, I’m from the South in a small town community where it used to be mainly farming for everyone a couple of generations ago (I’m 49.) I think that in the South, people are generally helpful to each other even regardless of race in some communities. It’s a beautiful thing to see.
People die everyday, we all are eventually going die, people get wrapped up in ritual, it is a way of accepting what has happened, and dealing with grief, everyone deals with death differently. . . . . every culture has a way of showing there respects, But, remember, this is all done for the living, the dead are gone, i feel sometimes small children are traumatized by how much confusion by all these different type of ceremonial practices people do . . . . Something i feel kids should not have go through all of what the adults give them no choice in
I remember as a child (1950s), that suicides and unbaptised babies were buried outside the hallowed ground of the cemetery. Twin girls born to my grandmother died within hours of their birth (1915 or so) and are buried in an unmarked grave outside the hallowed ground of the cemetery as they weren't baptized. And my mother 1930s told of a Jewish man who married outside of the Jewish faith, and his family had a funeral for him with an empty casket, as he was dead to them.
I think I would prefer to be buried outside the fence, next to suicide, etc…graves. Eventually, being judged for standing by the lost ways of souls, as those inside the fenced area should never have turned backs on a man who’s shoes they never walked in. So I’ll wait to be judged with them. My opinion.
A lot of Amish also have very plain tombstones. Some are just a small stone slab with initial of the deceased, and others are wooden and wither away after a few years. Rarely will you see the more elaborate burial mounds.
@@alk3078 What you don't understand is they are not Christians. You should watch his other videos. Most Amish communities, if not all, are not Bible based at all. In fact many , if not all, will shun those who do read the Bible. Please educate yourself before lashing out. Not only do I know a lot about them, they were prevalent where I used to live.
I agree whole heartedly about them shunning their children for leaving. Very sad indeed, The verse about the Prodigal Son comes to my mind when I heard that. ✨
The rest of the world could learn a great deal from the Amish. I remember how things were growing up (a very long time ago) when it was expected for neighbors to help neighbors when needed. We didn't bother asking, we just did what needed to be done. I don't know what changed but by the mid 1960s old traditions like that faded away. Of course there are a few things the Amish do that I don't agree with but over-all they have us beat in more ways than not.
My mother committed suicide 51 years ago today 10/6/1971. She was of a faith called Christidelphian, my brother and I were raised, and baptised in to, the Baptist faith. I like to think my Mother is in Heaven, God knew she was in a lot of physical pain as the result of a car accident long before our parents met. As an adult I understand things that the 5 year old I was could never have grasped. My mother's faith believed like the Amish, that "The dead know nothing" and sleep until Christ returns. As children, we used to go to the Mennonite community in Waynesboro, Va. every summer and bought the most amazing cheeses that we brought home and froze. As kids, we were fascinated by the horses and buggies and how friendly and polite everyone was to us.
My grnd mother went through this when she left the Amish community and met my grandfather who was English her Amish husband and children considered her dead
For regular "English" folks, the family starts calling insurance companies and looking for wills and then starts digging thru the deceased goodies. That's a normal funeral.
That is why we all should be prepared -- it is going to come to us someday -- for some closer than another -- for some, today - We should have all our paperwork prepared and end of life wishes as well as any 'funeral' or 'memorial service' wishes in writing so there is no question and no stress when the time comes
Remember as a kid the person was always laid out it was called awake for 3 days and they were buried seems like they don't do that so much anymore. They are laid out for one day now
We had an Amish community near where we grew up in Sussex, England, though they're called Bruderhof there. Their beliefs maybe the same, but British law is different to US law. Funerals must follow strict regulations and inhumations must be in a cemetary, regardless of the manner of death. While growing up, I remember always feeling sorry for the teenagers who had to leave their community for two years and live as outsiders. There was a documentary about them a few years ago and it opened my eyes to a lot of things. It's a pity that we, on the outside, are left to guess the what why and wherefore of other religious groups. It breeds contention and intollerance. And that causes some groups to close ranks and speak even less to outsiders. So, on that, thanks for sharing your insights. It really is important for sicial acceptance and understanding.
@@Marius-dk9je Oops, yes, you're right. I meant the other group in Sussex. I've forgotten their name, but I know they identified themselves as Amish. Two of the girls and I went to secondary school together.
I wonder where you got the info about Dan Church? I grew up in Ohio in the middle of the community where the Dan church started. I have never heard of the gravestone thing when someone leaves.
Funeral director once told me the reason they embalm people is to preserve it to last longer for funeral and people can view them. If they don't want embalming they have 72 hours to bury the deceased. Called a natural burial in my state. Embalming is a big no no here. You suppose to go back the way you came as stated in the bible. natural.💖
I agree, need to check in with family weeks after death of lived one. both my children passed as young adults within a couple of months of each other. realized my family wasn't there for me. the community also wasn't. those that pretended to care and show up at memorial never to see or hear from again. that was winter of 2019. I now hold onto you will know them by there fruit and let the dead bury their dead.
How can anyone judge if someone has been saved. Only God can judge that. Burying someone outside of the cemetery is passing judgement. We are human not God.
I've actually witnessed one church that basically lied. The boy that was deceased was driving a pickup when it flipped. The church said he wasn't driving the truck even though he was belted in the driver's side. They said his best friend that was English was driving. I know they didn't want the young people to know and think driving was ok but I feel like they committed a bigger sin by covering it up. My belief is how will the youth know it's wrong when they act like the person did no wrong. Here in Grabill drinking was a big problem among the youth. I've asked many parents why they allow their kids to go with groups that drink. Their answer was "I drank in my youth so how can I tell them to not drink?" Basically the parents hide their sin from the kids because they don't want to seem like Hippocrates.
