An EPIC Network Install in a Beautiful Location!

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This was an absolutely epic and complicated wireless design for a lake front property in Idaho. My first trip to this property was a scouting mission to see exactly what I was working with and to come up with a game plan for ensuring that the entire property was bathed in strong WiFi and redundant Internet.
The second trip was the install - and it was definitely not without its challenges! Watch the video for full details!
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KENUCO 4U enclosure: amzn.to/3bYKbZf
IP65 Waterproof Junction Box: geni.us/91l2w
Music Credits:
"Hold Steady" - DVNCT featuring Damon Vonn & Chip Thomas
"Magic Stuff" - DVNCT featuring Damon Vonn & Chip Thomas
Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
00:43 Existing Network Overview
04:27 New Network Design
11:35 Heading to Idaho
11:56 Internet Connection Overview
15:57 Boat House Setup
17:20 200' of Conduit and CAT6
21:40 Main House Setup
24:51 VLAN Explanation
27:56 PTMP Overview
31:11 Back House Setup
31:52 PTMP and UniFi Overview
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@naaitsab 2 года назад

Would love to see more install vids like this. Always nice to see gear in action instead of on a desk.

@TVJAY 2 года назад

In my opinion, this is the best video you have done. I think you should do more videos like this!

@richardturkson5916 2 года назад

The planning, deployment and validation appears to be spot on for the customers needs. Great job! Keep up the good work!

@MartinLangATADA 2 года назад

I love your videos, but i have to say that running copper cables between buildings is not a good idea. A cheap fibercable with outdoor shielding would have been a better solution imo. Completely isolated against any electrical charges, lightning strikes, etc.

@PeterOBrien2 Год назад

Which bit had the copper cable? In the conduit between the boat house and the main house?

@MartinLangATADA Год назад

@@PeterOBrien2 yup

@PeterOBrien2 Год назад

@@MartinLangATADA ah thanks a lot. Are there any advantages to running copper in this scenario? Just wondering why they would choose that rather than fiber cable

@DavidTrejo Год назад

@@PeterOBrien2 Additional cost for media converters / simplicity. I would have also looked at Fiber.

@timramich Год назад

@@DavidTrejo The UDM-SE already has an SFP WAN port. Could have just bumped it up by $90 for a boat house switch with an SFP cage, if one didn't want a media converter. And if more wires is the issue (more power cables) of not wanting a media converter, one can buy media converters that run off PoE power. So literally just a regular RJ45ed cable anyway, to a box, to the fiber.

@RodskiDimitri 2 года назад

This is great Chris; however, you forgot to share the coverage and speedtest. I hope you can include that in your future videos with this kind of project. Nonetheless, another great project good job.

@fs483 2 года назад

I would of run armored outdoor fiber along the trolley path. The fiber cable could have 6 strands or more to allow more flexibility. You would avoid electrical and electromagnetic interference issues. Yes you do need to add media converters (an extra possible point of failure) or even better SFP at either end. SFPs are pretty reliable and low cost so you can leave 1 or 2 spare onsite. I've already used the armored fiber when I hooked up a customer that rented more space in their existing building. However to get to the new office space, we had to go through common corridors so to avoid having the cable damaged by other trades, not only was the fiber cable tagged every few feet with labels indicating it was fiber and my customer's info, it was also armored to further reduce likely hood of damage. We also chose 2 different routes coming in from each end of the new office space so that we can take advantage of LAGG doubling the speed and guaranteeing redundancy. A fiber cut would mean 50+ engineers without Internet or phones service.

@catchallaccount9643 Год назад

no one cares

@timramich Год назад

@@catchallaccount9643 That's rude

@timramich Год назад

I would have run fiber, as well. But I guess some people like fried equipment. The router he's using has an SFP cage on it anyway. $90 more and he could have used a switch down at the boat house that has 2 SFP cages. It's a shame the Dream Machine router doesn't let you change the second SFP port to be used for WAN (so you could have failover). I would have somehow also ran fiber to the back house. I don't get the obsession with skirting the work of cabling in favor of wireless for backhauls.

@RalphGrochowski Год назад

LAG doesn’t double the speed

@mcw_productions Год назад

@@timramich 90 $? lol thats a joke right? Supplies != labor. What happens when that fiber gets broken? Just gonna slide down the Willie Wonka cart and fix it for free? Shhhh...

@TheJonathanRaper 2 года назад

If you didn’t want to run fiber to the small building, I should have at least installed the new conduit for the Ethernet on the opposite side of the track to eliminate any EMF from the power generating an AC current on the Ethernet cable. I would also not drilled through the crawl space vent but through the wall. That way the vent can still be opened or closed to control humidity under the structure. In addition I would have installed a keystone where the AP was coming through upstairs. That way if the line was damaged it would be easy to replace. I guess you can always install a keystone later if it gets damaged but I think it would have looked better. Also, I would have went with a different location for the upstairs AP and not had it in a cabinet so it wouldn’t attenuate the Wi-Fi signal as much.

@karlkaufman2659 11 месяцев назад

Yeah, that conduit pass-through through the middle of the window threw me, as did the diagonal cable running across the basement ceiling. And I'd think the difficulty in getting that one line terminated should have demonstrated the value in protecting that particular termination, at least, with a keystone wall jack.

@johnmerryman1825 2 года назад

Cool setup! I would probably have tried to get the boathouse equipment somehow powered by the main house so it would work on generator power. Maybe a switch flex to send POE down to run the WISP antenna at least (since starlink needs AC power). In a long term power out situation I know I’d want internet!

@hnefeenstra 2 года назад

Thank You So Much! I really appreciate the kind of videos you make. Just basic stuff, no annoying background music or fast switch of diagrams to the actual project. Thanks for taking the time and explaining the Why of it all. Greetings from Holland

@patrickpaganini 2 года назад

Awesome video! So good when people talk honestly about problems they had, and who helped out. Fantastic stuff, and not yer run of the mill YT content.

@earldavison3513 Год назад

Great video that perfectly represents my situation. Very helpful - you do great work. As an electrical engineer and 40+ years in industry, I still learn something new each time I come to your site for solutions. Your UDM Pro setup series is spectacular. Many, many thanks

@rogerosb2u 2 года назад

Love the router/firewall named "youdaho"...LOL! Excellent job, as always! I really enjoyed going through everything from concept to finish. Appreciate your work!

@lipefas 2 года назад

That was a nice change of pace Chris. I've enjoyed very much. The scenery was spectacular!

@benjaminc.m.9873 4 месяца назад

This was a fun video!! I do installs, so this was right in line with what i enjoy doing. I also learned some stuff!

@deeds793 2 года назад

For outdoor cable, what we do is run the outdoor cable until it gets inside the building. Once in the building, we use keystone jacks to terminate the outdoor cable and run our standard cat5e/6 cable off of that keystone jack. While it does potentially introduce a point of failure, we have found it works quite well and reduces the need to try and play with the goo they have in the outdoor cable. Hopefully this helps with future installs!

@jessenic 2 года назад

Personally I prefer terminating all fixed cat6 cable runs with female keystone jacks. The cable is not meant to be bent like normal patch cables, so best to keep it fixed in one place. Toolless keystone jacks are very inexpensive, so are patch panels and wall mounted sockets. Also in Europe that black outdoor cable is not rated for indoor installations due to fire prevention regulations (CPR). So to be up to building code you can have a maximum of 5 meters of outdoor cable indoors until you need to switch to a different cable. Some outdoor cat6 cables have a regular indoor cable under the black outdoor rated sheathing that you can peel off to make the cable suitable for indoor installations.

@DavidWaltermyer Год назад

yup - we pretty much never terminate CAT5e/6 anymore. Everything goes to keystones - then a short patch cable to the device. Practically eliminates all install issues - and provides an easy way to service/replace the final bit - just throw in another patch cable.

@amacnetworks 17 дней назад

The trouble with using external cat6 cable with goo on a slope or pole is the grease melts in the heat and runs out the bottom, terminating external cable on keystones eliminates issues with large conductor size causing problems with terminating directly on CAT6 connectors

@karlfrederick5731 2 года назад

Hi Chris, superbly illustrated. I have lived the ethernet termination issue you ran into... what a pain -- glad to see you received good help from the ISP. For those times I wish I could have asked you a 100 questions related to point to point/multipoint, your video has 1000 answers and is a great reference. BTW, your HPWC from the coast is now happily installed at a rural outpost and is working perfectly. Thanks again. -K

@mrfrenzy. 2 года назад

Platinum ezEX48 connectors works perfectly for that kind of cable, but as others have said it would be better to user fiber to protect from lightning especially since the houses are on different electrical supplies.

@kevinhughes9801 2 года назад

Epic video chris! Great job thanks for sharing

@stargasm1000 2 года назад

What a beautiful property shown in this video! The outstanding work you did here certainly helps keep it that way. Good job!

@dplawrance 2 месяца назад

This video is so excellent! It has to be a common situation where the cable drop for the ISP was placed in a different part of the house from the network closet. This saved me hundreds of dollars to find someone who would pull a fiber cable through my house where we have neither crawlspace nor attic. Perhaps it is obvious how to do this if one is a network person, but that I am not.

@360ModsandHacks 2 года назад

You did an amazing job on this video! I appreciate you taking the time to sit down and explain everything. You made that network 100% better, good job man!

@brownlow101 2 года назад

Awesome video Chris. Not just the content but also the production. I know it was a ton of work and editing and we greatly appreciate you. This video helped me solve a dual wan dilemma for an upcoming install. So Cheers!!

@EverettWhiteman 2 года назад

Chris this is hands-down one of your best videos yet - love this style and hands on. Well done!

@BrewedIt 2 года назад

Great work! Nice houses and views too!

@rivereagle5524 2 года назад

Awesome video, I love doing this type of design and install. I am a network engineer by trade and love Ubiquiti gear.

@chrisarmstrong5611 2 года назад

I've not even finished watching but I'm loving the discussion going on with considerations and ideas. Absolutely brilliant video!!

@grantwilcox330 2 года назад

Excellent video Chris

@humphshumphs 2 года назад

What a wonderful place to have to go and do an install at. Lots of good information given. Thank you 👍👍

@antongrimm Месяц назад

Thank you so much for this video, I learned a ton! I'd love to see more like this :)

@EricGoodrich Год назад

Youdaho. LOL, You're killing me smalls! Nice touch Chris! 🍻

@hejsanii5769 2 года назад

Thanks for this great video. This helps a lot in my day-to-day work...

@Taylorc52 Год назад

Super cool video! Love watching these specialty builds.

@jasebates7589 2 года назад

This was really interesting Chris thank you for the share

@MactelecomNetworks 2 года назад

Love these type of video. Great job Chris

@bobsmith5134 2 года назад

great video great install touching on so many things...thank you and more of these plz

@fillwe4600 2 года назад

Really like these kind of projects! Great video!

@emilantonio007 2 года назад

This is a great video to learn about designing and installing network devices. I love VLAN explanation session that was new for me. Awesome video.

@luisolivera9307 Год назад

My first dive into Unifi was was with the USW-Lite-8-PoE in a MoCA application. It changed the game for me and have since expanded. I'm still new to this and now learning how to apply the network to the hardware...securely. Great lessons here and I thank you.

@campbellgunn Год назад

Thank you for the great video! I wanted to have a similar multi-building setup. How you explained the WAN primary and backup was perfect!

@kennethcoulter791 2 года назад

This content was really good. Thanks for sharing.

@nickbowmaster6598 2 года назад

Great video! Would love to see more install vids like this.

@Richard_GIS 2 года назад

Genius, loved the intro, the setup and especially the explanation on vlan and how you used it. Great video.

@nuc9901 2 года назад

A "horizontal cable" between locations should always be terminated on jacks. Modular plugs are not made to crimp on solid wire Cat6 cable, no matter what people (and vendors) say. The reliability of structured cabling depends on IDC connections: jacks and patch panels for solid (horizontal) wire, plugs for stranded (patch cord) wire. Quite a few manufacturers have tried to make "field terminable plugs" with mixed results. They are usually very large and expensive and often they are no better than mod plugs - they pull right off the wire.

@JessieS 2 года назад

Great video very informative, would love to see more

@krismerchant4982 2 года назад

Hello Chris. Thanks for this this was a great setup. A real challenge.. Have you ever considered running fiber between the building closest to the lake to the main house instead of that funky outdoor grade CAT6?. Another solution for connectivity could be A set of copper link wan adapters that allow for 100Mbps of speed over single pair of copper (if available of course). I've used these units using old copper quad wiring and they work great. Appreciate all you guys do! Huge fan!

@hw2508 Год назад

I thought of fiber as well, but you need a different switch for that.

@TheDamian418 2 года назад

Love this type of video. Thanks for sharing!

@toshcam 2 года назад

Great project! Would like to see more installation videos in the future!

@JeffMijares 2 года назад

I loved the flow of everything! I can't wait to have access to hardware like this in my country.

@bdouglas 2 года назад

Love it! Let's see more of these!!!

@dennis-gallagher 2 года назад

Great video Chris. I love your content as this is "real world" scenarios I often run into.

@techtalkandtechunboxed 2 года назад

Great video with explanations need more project on your channels.

@Vikingza Год назад

Hi Chris, I would have run fiber between the main house and boat house as it would not be affected by magnetic interference from the ac cable or the trolley moving above it. On the back house I would have used a 5 port flex switch which would only used 1 POE injector and give you 4 POE out ports.

@RyanLRaben 2 года назад

Really cool video. Gorgeous location.

@IgnaceLaplaese 2 года назад

one of the most clearly explained and well prepared video's, great content

@TheSpanishmuscle 2 года назад

Very enjoyable video Chris

@rivereagle5524 2 года назад

What about lightning protection? The one I would most be concerned about is the trunk between the boat house and the main house. Overall great design, I am a little weary of routing internet over VLANs with other vlans in the same trunk. While its highly unlikely I always worry about something coming in from the Internet before it hits the firewall.

@andrewr886 2 года назад

Lightning was my first question too..... I would have leaned towards a fiber link between the two buildings, giving it some electrical isolation.

@rivereagle5524 2 года назад

@@andrewr886 Or at least lightning arrestors. I have lost at least one switch that way in the past.

@smapz3265 2 года назад

Awesome video with some great tips! A couple suggestions: - Get some Conduit spacers or simply some hangers and bolt them together to stack the conduit correctly. Zip ties will not last. :) - Vaseline is petroleum based. It may damage cable sheathing depending on the makeup of the cable jacket. Use wire pulling lubricant such as Klein Tools Foam Lubricant. I am hoping the cable you used is oil resistant.

@jeremynorman1450 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing! Enjoyed it!

@markarca6360 2 года назад

The local ISP uses a Mikrotik LHG 2 or a LHG XL 2 as the CPE here. Also the second CPE is a Mikrotik SXTsq 2.

@carterhobson310 2 года назад

Great Video! It’s cool to see how other people set up networks for different challenging properties and buildings. I have set up a Unifi network for a lake house with the main concern being able to provide the whole property(1 acre) with high speed wifi for mobile devices and a wifi camera . The property is quite long and we have cable internet at the house which is at the very top. I connected a mesh pro AP to the router at the house and added a mesh ap at the shed halfway down the property which connected to the house mesh pro wirelessly. We were able to get decent speed wifi at the end of the dock.

@nctxman 2 года назад

Nice job Chris!

@briancotten9245 2 года назад

Fun video! It scratches my IT nerd itch. Good job!

@davidweiner3365 4 месяца назад

I just completed a house (1900 sf) on a lake in N Idaho and used a Unifi dream router for inside, and added a U6 mesh access point outside. The U6 is poe from the router. I started with Starlink because local microwave services are running less than 25 mbps. So far my experience with starlink is mostly getting in the range of 75-125 mbps, that was a huge improvement. I do have trees around so it occasionally gets disrupted for seconds only, but that seems to happen mostly in the very early morning time. The Starlink app to check siting of the dish gave an indication that reception is poor, but in reality it's outstanding. Love UNIFI and use it at my main home as well. I've learned a lot from Crosstalk, so thanks.

@mojoriden Год назад

Had a similar issue with some cat6 cabling that was rated for 600v (use on power poles). The insulation one each conductor was too thick. A deep, deep dive into the documentation revealed I needed a specific type of cat6 rj45 at $5 a piece!

@SteveSwags 2 года назад

What a gorgeous piece of property and view! That's my retirement dream.

@abeljosephnfor8688 Год назад

The video was exciting and educative. Thanks a bunch

@foxglenacres 2 года назад

this was a great video! i have a large property with lots of trees and multiple structures. your videos have provide awesome insight, thank you!

@leejordanful 2 года назад

Very interesting! The part about the separate VLANS for the two internet connections was particularly useful. Thanks

@tokillamurderer Год назад

WOW, what a property!!

@Polkster13 2 года назад

Loved the drone footage.

@cpvlk 2 года назад

Love this! Thanks so much for sharing! Just found your channel. HUGE Ubiquiti fan! :)

@techmaster170 2 года назад

Oh this looks like it should be good! Great video!

@anthonydiiorio 2 года назад

Nice work Chris. Interesting setup with the dual wan over a single physical link.

@nusermane1076 2 года назад

Great video and what a view!!! One question about the dual-wan at the UDM: Is it possible to directly internally route the traffic of the wan 1/2 vlans to the wan interfaces of the UDM, so, without the external loopback connection? Best regards 🙂

@psyfertech 6 месяцев назад

this is the stuff i live for, great video, i love how well you explained how you transported both wans via vlans up to the gateway and cross connected them over, i had no clue you could do that very cool

@Deraco1 2 года назад

Exactly same steps and installation I would do! Great job and looks fantastic guys! Nice work!!

@simdog635 2 года назад

very informative and interesting install. Also good to see you have upped your cable management skills.

@chriszwolski2996 2 года назад

Awesome work man, love the vlan trickery, its brilliant - I totally would have ran the 3 wires up that conduit until I saw this video.

@chrish7927 2 года назад

That cat6 cable run scares me. That metal rail line seems like a lightning rod. I'd feel better if it were fiber. I can't even keep my buried sprinkler lines from being hit by errant lightning.

@joshsmith4998 2 года назад

That house and property are absolutely gorgeous. I wouldn't want to leave LOL

@muhsdm 2 года назад

Nice presentation!

@mahmood1212 Год назад

Well done, very informative. While enjoying the nature.

@Mr.Coffee117 2 года назад

Just found this channel and I love it. I am a help desk tech who is studying for my ccna and I love videos like these. Would love to have my own company one day where I do installations like these

@blackjedi23 2 года назад

AWESOME WORK

@lunyr3555 2 года назад

Love the Setup, perfect use of the vlan. I have a tip, u can use the Port 8 on the udm-pro as a wan connection so u don’t need the sfp+ to RJ45 Adapter.

@futurecactus 2 года назад

I had to poke around in Unifi to turn port 8 into WAN2, I never would have known if it wasn't pointed out because you have to reconfigure port 10 first so that the WAN option appears under port 8. Nice tip.

@rlocone 2 года назад

Awesome vid. Well detailed. Thanks.

@bobbyd8785 Год назад

Great Video, best part. "Thats what she said"

@matticated263 2 года назад

Cool video... and sure it was a fun project as well.

@ChrisFredriksson Год назад

Hey Chris, been a long time subscriber! Still remember the choppy intro music years back - not complaining, it is a great memory because of the pbx videos you did back then that I really loved. Anyhow.. I love these videos the best when you're out on a site and showing installations, it is so fun to watch! Even the installation videos you've done in both your house now and the previous one, real fun! Get to the point.. yeah.. well this video gave me a great idea for our "failover" 4G connection in our new house we're moving into in February.. I'm going to try the isolated VLAN as the second building already has 4G antennas on it and the primary living house has fiber, so I'm going to try and hook it up like you did here with primary/backup wan but only for my backup then via the 4G.. I always learn something new and sometimes refresh some knowledge when I'm watching your videos. Really fun, really great! Thanks for making awesome content! ❤

@ph4se2 2 года назад

Great video awesome job on this one.

@s80keys 2 года назад

I love these install videos. Working with UniFi equipment is really fun, and it would be neat to do this as a career. Also, nice trick with the Plasti-dip!

@StephenWaldenUK 2 года назад

Awesome video Chris. Would love to see more of this type of video, if you can spare the time to make them 🤣I know it must take up a lot of time in the workday.

@Dextermorga 2 года назад

Beautiful property

@Darool Год назад

Love that Pockether, using it for every install also, works like a charm

@WayneRigley Год назад

found your video thanks, im looking to do this for my boss's cottage with 4 outbuildings. same thing pretty much as what you did but all one level thank god. ill have to rewatch this video a few times to get a grasp of it better. thank you new SUB !

@ScanEarth 2 года назад

Nice work Chris! Did you know that in one of the latest or perhaps RC or EA firmware for the UDM-Pro you can relocate primary and secondary WAN between ports 8-9 and SFP1-2 in any desired order. I know that we can’t discuss the specifics of EA but this is coming, just a heads up. 😀

@blairchristopher3073 2 года назад

Great video! I want a lake house now.

@RyanSnodgrass 2 года назад

Great video. This is almost identical ot my building layout with similar elevation changes/distances. Mine is about 150 ft to the smaller outhouse. Really cool to see how you planned this out and compare to my own plans.