An Error in the King James Version 

I am so over this translation rabbit hole. I am a software engineer. I do NOT accel at language translation. I DO however accel at reading. I will read many translations, note any meaningful differences, defer to those that are more knowledgeable than I (my pastor and other more 'versed' Christians) and then pray on it. God will show me the way. God bless & good luck to all.

Mark, perhaps there is a homonym/idiom here with Job 30:9-10 "And now am I their song, yea, I am their byword. They abhor me, they flee far from me, and spare not to spit in my face." Notice how in Job 30:9-10 he has become "their song," and they spare not to "spit in ...[his] face." The KJV text of Job 17:6 does not say I "used to be" a tambourine, but I was "as" a timbrel. The timbrel was an instrument that was struck. While תֹּפֶת is an act of spitting, it is very close to the word תָּפַף ( which means to strike or to beat [especially a timbrel]). It could be that Job is saying I have become a byword and am one who was beaten (enter imagery of tabret) and spit upon (the two Hebrew words are very close in sound). By noticing this connection one may also see Job as a type of Christ. Notice how Christ, like Job, was treated with contempt as they "spat in his face" and "struck" Him while making Him a byword. Matthew 26:67 Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands, Matthew 27:30 And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head. Mark 10:34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again. Mark 14:65 And some began to spit on him, and to cover his face, and to buffet him, and to say unto him, Prophesy: and the servants did strike him with the palms of their hands. Mark 15:19 And they smote him on the head with a reed, and did spit upon him, and bowing their knees worshipped him. Furthermore, notice also that there may be a connection with the place Tophet תֹּפֶת (also known as the valley of Hinnom) which sounds very similar to תֹּפֶת. Isaiah 30:31-33 states "For through the voice of the LORD shall the Assyrian be beaten down, which smote with a rod. And in every place where the grounded staff shall pass, which the LORD shall lay upon him, it shall be with tabrets and harps: and in battles of shaking will he fight with it. For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it. Just thought I might add to the discussion. I am no Hebrew scholar and don't claim to be, just a sincere Christian who loves God's perfect word (Ps. 19:7; 18:30; 111:7; Deu 32:4; Rom 12:2; Jas 1:17).

The blessing we have now is that most reference editions of KJV's will have the side note on that verse and many others for either correction or literal rendering.

The main thing people fail to understand is that language is a moving target, its regional and to some extent individual. Its a little more complex than most would care to admit. The message is pure holy and inspired.

Byword doesn't mean people were talking negatively about him. By-word means a proverbial saying, one that personifies a type, one that is noteworthy or notorious, frequently used word or pharse. Tabret is a small drum with or without cymbals. Job made a hyperbole statement about himself similiar to "death is as a drum". It is literally that simple and I am certian that the KJV translators figured that out considering they took certian words through 14 different test to figure out what was correct. What you brought up about looking for neighboring words and repeated words being only one of them. They admitted the are human and prone to error, yes. Yet, the KJB itself hasn't ever actually and genuinely been updated either.

Jerome's attempt was "They have made me like a common proverb, and I am an example before their face."

Appears to be borrowed from a Geneva edition like 1587? "Hee hath also made mee a byword of the people, and I am as a Tabret before them."

I would love for you to make a video about words like “cockatrice” and “griffon” in the KJV!

How to look at Timothy Bird's research & am I spelling his name correctly?Anyone, please reply. Thank you

Job 17:6 "He has made me a byword of the people(God made him a instrument of suffering to the people), and before I was as a tambourine(a instrument of praise to the people). Job 2:10 "Shall we accept good(praise) from God, and not accept adversity(suffering)?" He has made me a instrument of suffering to the people, and before I was as a instrument of praise to them. Shall we accept praise from God, and not accept suffering? No, we should accept both.

Is the standard Hebrew and Aramaic lexicon of the Old Testament you reference here available somewhere onine?

Please do a video on 1 Corinthians 13. Although it's widely known as the "love chapter," the KJV uses the word "charity" instead of love. Is this an error, or did the original Greek mean something more specific than love?

Bible translation from manuscripts is more of an art than a science, so I've heard. It is very hard to do!

Another excellent video. Thanks for this series, Mark!

I have never learned to read the Bible using KJV but from what I’ve heard the pros would be: better poetry, heard memorizing is easier, and pronouns make it easier to tell who text is talking to. I was trying to find a reason for me to pick it up especially since I go to a traditional church and know some of the old terms as even NKJV isn’t difficult to read imo. I don’t think there is a good reason still not that it’s bad Bible or anything.

The same word for or related to "spitting" cannot be found in Num 12:14, Deut 25:9, 1 Sam 21:13, Isa 50:6, Lev 15:8. Also, why the difference between ESV and NIV on this point?

Job 30:9 - and now am I their song, yea I am their byword. Tabret means mocking job by singing song, with music instrument.

I just checked my BLB app, checking the interlinear for Job 17:6....and they don't even reference the tabret as a translation for Hebrew 'topet'. Something about that is just funny.

The irony is that the King James translators did not translate that verse. They copied it directly from the 1560 Geneva bible. A pre existing error.

Something I've realized recently about absolutism vs confidence. God preserved his word in the exact same manner he preserved his own name. We don't know exactly how to spell or pronounce his name, but we 100% know the meaning. In the same way that we don't know the exact wording of the bible (or translations of it), but we 100% know the meaning.

When you read out Job 17:6, I would have figured that Job was making an analogy where he had been beaten upon as one beats on a drum or tambourine. That means that if I had been translating the KJV in 1611, I would have put some effort into explaining the analogy. But they did not. Apparently, that wasn't in their goals. But of course, further study illuminates what was actually said.

@Mark Ward can you tell me where I can find those kjv translations quotes?

I see no problem with Job 17:6 in the KJV. Job didn't say " I used to be a tambourine", but "I was as a tabret". St. Paul in 1 Cor 13 compared himself to a tinkling cymbal or sounding brass if he spoke with the tongues of men or angels yet without love. Job may have simply been using an analogy, maybe saying that his speech was entertaining, or that he was the life of the party, a good and entertaining host. I don't personally use the KJV, just as a disclaimer.

I am glad i listened to this talk which is helpful for me to better understand difference between the verbal plenary inspiration teaching and verbal plenary preservation.which is a favorite KJV only topic.

My only real question about the accuracy of the KJV (and the TR and BYZ) is Mark 16:19. Can believers drink deadly things and live?

Very good video. The craziness in the comments section is the attack on Mark and others who are bringing light to the fact that the KJV does have human errors. The reason it is so hard to accept is because you have listened to the teaching for years and trusted in humans that the KJV is the only infallible word of God. The original word of God is infallible but the copying and rewriting is not. There are literally dozens of errors in the KJV and instead of humbling yourselves and seeing facts for what it is you blindly ignore it and continue believing and trusting in man. Most everyone pointing out and agreeing with these errors are true born again believers. Brothers and sisters in Christ who only seek truth in order to better understand our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Strong's Concordance brings clarity for Job 17:6. The usage of aforetime and tabret have, somewhat, unique meanings for Job 17:6 vs other usages of these 2 words in other passages.

You may want to check the New Jewish Publication Society translation. They, too, translate this correctly, as does the KJV.

Not to mention, taking one word, hell to cover four words in the earlier Greek and Hebrew scriptures, sheol, hades, Gehenna and Tartarus, is like me telling you that all the directions on the compas are East.

I always feel that if people actually really read the translators to the readers in the KJV, we wouldn’t have these types of debates and sometimes falling out between brothers and sisters. As a person that reads many different translations I am finding a harmony in them all. Not one of top 5 translations belittle God or defame his name, awesome power. Every one of these bibles you could use to share the gospel with someone. it would be interesting to know if people who don’t speak English have such debates around translations in there own language. Although I suspect it’s a very western spoilt position as we have so many to choose from. To be honest I wish we were so passionate to making sure that others around the world have a complete copy of the bible like we do. I personally have decided to put my money where my mouth is and I now support that.

Hey Mark, in one of your other videos you point out two verses from different books, that disagree on someone’s age or year of reign… I can’t find those two passages. Ring a bell?

Very helpful…thank you! Recommend highlighting “how” a church leader can change course without sounding heretical. I think this is the challenge. Very scary when your livelihood may be at stake.

Hello Mark. Have you looked at the LXX? Quite interesting. Thanks.

I’d say that most if not all kjv only folks are cessationists(at least the ones I’ve met). I now have friends that are not. It’s challenged my thinking, wondering if tounges and the gifts are for today. I’ve been taught that, when that which is perfect has come that, that which is in part will be done away… being the Bible and kjv to be exact. Where do you stand on this teaching?

I can certainly find more mistakes in the KJV. But as you say the overall message is clear and should not deter us in seeking and learning the truth. It is naive to uphold that KJV is the absolute and free of errors, but errors were introduced by men. Although I like KJV, other versions of the Bible realize the mistakes on translation and correct them albeit with copyright limitations.

I remember reading this verse in Hebrew for the first time. I thought job was saying he was tofeth, as in the valley of topheth in Jeremiah

Need more on textual absolutism vs textual confidence

@ Mark Ward Thank you for this video. I found this very interesting and informative. I would love to see a video explaining Revelation 22:14 and the reason for the difference between the KJV and the modern versions. This really threw me for a loop when I discovered it.

Peace be with you, brother in Christ. I am not attempting to defend the inerrancy of the KJV's usage of "tabret" over and above that of "spit", but wouldn't the intended meaning of "I was as a tabret" be to express being beaten down or slapped around by others? This to me conveys essentially the same meaning, although the imagery is different, to that of being spat upon. For in both cases, Job expresses that he has suffered abuse from others, making him also a "byword". That is not to say that "spit" is not a superior and more literal translation choice. But perhaps to be treated like a percussion instrument, to be pummeled upon, does fairly capture Job's meaning here of having suffered abuse. It could be viewed as a dynamic translation.

In 2 Kings 13:1 it states that in the 23rd year of Joash King of Judah, Jehoahaz became king over Israel and reigned for seventeen years. This would put the end of Jehoahaz's reign in the 40th year of Joash's reign, since twenty three and seventeen equal forty.. Yet we read in 2 Kings 13:9-10 that Jehoahaz slept with his fathers, and they buried him in Samaria, and Jehoash his son reigned in his place in the THIRTY SEVENTH year of the reign of Joash king of Judah. This would leave only fourteen years for the reign of Jehoahaz, not seventeen years as stated in verse one of this chapter. There is no way you can juggle the numbers and make this come out right. This simply shreds the doctrine of inerrancy, which is the belief that God has perfectly preserved the Bible through the ages down to the present day with no errors in it at all even to the very letter. It doesn't hold up to scrutiny. There were mistakes made by some scribes centuries ago, however for me it doesn't shake my faith in the slightest. I don't depend in some false doctrine of inerrancy, particularly because of the shipwreck that it has made out of once solid Bible believers like Bart Ehrman, but I do believe in the infallibility of the original manuscripts. I also believe in the overall, overwhelming totality of the testimony of the Law, the Prophets and the Apostles as sufficient for my faith. I believe in all areas of theology, morality, prophecy (fulfilled and yet to be fulfilled), the historical account of God's creation of the world and of the world wide Flood of Noah and the story of the early Patriarchs, the history of the Jewish nation, the virgin birth, sinless life, death burial and resurrection of our Lord Jesus the Messiah, and in science the Bible is accurate.

God knows our prideful tendencies, so he uses imperfection to humble us and to drive us to seek His truth. So many papyri, so many codices, so many languages, so many variants, so many dictionaries, so many lexicons, so many translations! That's right! So, prayerfully dig and search among all of that material instead of wasting time. "For now, we see in a mirror dimly." Thank you for your insights!🙋🏼‍♂️📖😊

Job 17:6 in the Septuagint; "But thou has made me a byword amount the nations, and I am become a scorn to them."

I appreciate your work sir. Thank you.

at some point, could you go over the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy?

A career attacking the KJV with a smile, meekness, friendliness. I would love to see what's hiding under the skin.

Reminds me of " a clanging symbol"... a noise some people do not want to hear. Tabret is a one sided drum. This reminds me of friends I talk with who talk and never stop. I cannot get a word in edgewise. A one sided conversation.

He was as a blessing to everyone, now he's troubled and people are far off. Obviously.

Where is this Letter to reader from Translators? You don't put it in the film itselfe.

Tabret is one who plays the tabor not the tabor itself

I so appreciate your work. Have you done a video on the KJV’s unfortunate rendering of JESUS for JOSHUA in Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8?

Mark, I appreciate your ministry. All of your videos have been very informative. I do have a question about this one, though. I was having a conversation about this topic with someone much more intelligent than I. He has a bit of an understanding of Greek. He mentioned referencing the Septuagint to see how ancient Jews understood that section. He said they generally translated that word into laughing and the word laughing (or laughter?) is what they get tablet from. What are your thoughts on this?

Sadly, you can't even argue with KJV Onlyist. I personally don't see any problem with reading the KJV, but going out and burning Bibles and scoffing at literally any good fruit the new translations produce is foolishness.

in the passage of Job 17:6...... I believe what we are being told by Job.. is that before this time... He was talked about... but before what time...?.. before the time of his wealth?...destitution? calamity? in other words what specific time is Job referring to as before this?.. before his destruction.. people talked about him how wealthy he was.?. they admired him? ..they were jealous of his prosperity?.. or before this point in time once we determine for certainty.. what aforetime situation Job is referring to as being talked about...a tabret may be translated as an obsolete abhorring instrument .or as spit as you have found.. according to the Hebrew... hmmm an abhorring instrument ... and I found that this was an instrument often played by women... could this passage possible mean... that once Job was looked upon as someone such as E.F. Hutton...?.. when he talked everybody listened... yet now he sees himself as someone that No one wishes to listen to?.. Job went from being important to being a nuisance.. is how Job saw himself in regards to his countrymen...

Ya know what wouldve been useful, for the KJ translators to give a commentary on the whole bible so qe would know whether they knew what the verse was saying. If they didnt know what the verse meant, then you cant blame someone for pointing out an error they made. Imagine speaking to them and asking them one by one, what does this verse mean and why tabret? Biships bible 1568 makes more sense than tabret, they probably tried to interpret what tabret meant. "He hath made me a byworde of the people, where as afore I was their ioy"

What proves its imperfection to me is the word Easter used. Easter is just one day whereas Passover (unleavened bread) is 7 thus proving its imperfection. Easter is a derivative of Ishtar which is very pagan and God wouldn’t used a pagan derivative to describe one of His Holy Feast days.

KJV Ps 119:89 "For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven." God had the perfect Bible in heaven before it was ever penned on this earth

People seem to be mocking Job thinking God has rejected him. At one time Job was someone they listened too. People listen to the beat of the drum!

I never realized before how much of Job's response sounds iike knowledge of Christ's trial. I do know that Job's trial is the labor of one in whom the Word is fully formed. He will be brought to a state of repeating what God says. The portion of faith called "the good part." We know this as יענה or John--the beginning of the response of Jah. As the doves call to one another with cooing, we speak the words of God with faith. It is fair to called these word "inspired" because they come into our ears as the audible breath of the Most High God. The lord our God is One. The book of Job explains how lightning comes from the snow clouds. When translated to thunder animals understand. Are we all called to seek the face of God, his holy presence? The last step requires taking on the role of the lowest servant. Some of us need a lot of help to do it. Job will become "a son of God" and experience that quickening which allows him to understand the language of light. That isn't all, of course.

To me, this is your most important video! Because it’s a specific example of an error in the KJV. I would love to learn of other examples, if you have any! Thanks, Mark 😊

Ruckman said the errors in the kjv are revelations. Wonder what this error reveals about anything 😅

A tabret, like you said is like what we call a tambourine...and it is used generally in happy, joyful music, like songs of rejoicing, and which provoke dancing. The phrase "aforetime I was as a tabret" describes how Job remembered his life before his affliction came upon him, in contrast with how he was feeling at the time he spoke those words.

Job Dutch Bible translated to English 17: 6 beating the drum before everyone. Marginal notes17 That is, a common pastime and matter of taunts and ridicule.

Curious to know if you've ever tried to point out the Jesus/Joshua confusion to KJVOs? For example: "For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day." Hebrews 4:8 KJV "Which also our fathers that came after brought in with Jesus into the possession of the Gentiles, whom God drave out before the face of our fathers, unto the days of David;" Acts 7:45 KJV When I'm trying to disprove the notion that the KJV is perfect, these have been my go to texts. It's hard to find an obvious error that doesn't require knowledge of Hebrew/Greek. Obviously it's understandable why they translated Ιησούς as Jesus, but in these two texts it's clearly referring to Joshua, which even English readers can see by looking at the context. If you've already made a video somewhere on this please remind me, I'm just curious to see how people respond to it. Your channel seems to get every possible objection. Lol

That’s not an error, it’s how you have interpreted aforetime (in a former time).

Well done, Mark! I admit, I do not know the original languages of the Scripture, but I have confidence in its trustworthiness. I just cannot believe that if one word is obscure, then all is wrong. I love and use the KJV, but not exclusively. I do not understand how or why, this should throw my KJVO friends into a tizzy. Have they NO REAL FAITH IN GOD? That is how it seems to me.

Maybe being shaken around like a tambourine is like being mocked/spit at

Luk 7:23 23 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. [1 9] I found this. Isn’t it a mistake? This word offended is not what it should be here

Dear brother Mark Job is not the oldest book but Genesis ie THE TOLEDOTH'S "These are the Generations of" see J.P Wiseman. Job was written after Genesis 10. God bless. Another fantastic video. THANK YOU SIR.

I do not see an error in this verse.

This doesn’t hold water. The 1611 translators knew the words: SPIT, SPITTING and SPITTLE. (That’s all forms) They’re all rendered in the KJB. In fact, see Job 30:10. Here it seems the “expression of contempt” is rendered which they have allegedly missed.

I know true seekers of truth want confidence in the word of God they read, but I think we need to be careful, lest we strain at a gnat and swallow a camel. Matthew 23:24

Well done Mark, I always appreciate your scholarship presented with a lot of grace.

Read 2 Kings 8:26 & 2 Chronicles 22:2. Was King Ahaziah 22 years old or 42 years old when he began to reign over Israel as King for one year? I laughed about this because many a woman will lie about their age. Maybe King Ahaziah was sensitive about his age. It looks like the translators translated the numbers 22 & 42 correctly. From a bible believer, Patty

4:20 Consider that a tabret, timbrel or tambourine as we might call it today is played by repeated striking with a palm. So in the context of the passage the KJV translation of the verse makes sense, in that Job is being literally or figuratively smitten. The cognate languages are interesting to think about, but nothing about the evidence you have presented would definitively conclude that there is an error in the KJV, just that similar languages may or may not have a different meaning than the biblical Hebrew

In my Othrodox Study Bible (St. Athanasius Academy Septuagint): Job 17:6 is ""But You made me a byword among the people, and I have become an object of laughter to them." It's interesting that there seems to be two variations in this verse, because this make me wonder where my translation of this verse has originated from. I think this could be from Andrew Rahlf's Greek OT, which the book states is a source of the text. As in Rahlf's text the word γέλως (laughter) is used. This topic one one I find interesting, but too much of it I find distracts us from the word.

Great video! Thanks! I use a wide variety of translations - Catholic, Protestant & Eastern Orthodox. Some are better. Some are not so good. The KJV is one of the best, but imperfect, just like its reader - me.

Jeremiah 36:22 King Zedekiah burned the originals .... the originals never existed for some of these chapters

Excellent break down as usual! I sometimes think it's rather apt that we don't have a perfect translation, because it would mean that God's word is characteristically transcendent.

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Thank you for your research Mark. I attended an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church when I was in the Army. It was an excellent church that used only the KJV. I didn't necessarily agree with them. But I used my KJV while attending this church and didn't argue about it. A few years later I moved to another duty station and found another church that was KJV only. They were extremely controlling pushed the KJV issue too far.

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Ok, so you are correcting an error of an inerrant bible? Got it!

Thank you for sharing this video, Mark. It reminded me of something else that caught my attention in the KJV. In John 16:7-15 in the KJV the Holy Spirit is referred to using masculine pronouns, but in John 1:32, Romans 8:16, and Romans 8:26 in the KJV the Holy Spirit is referred to using neuter pronouns. This difference of pronouns is not present in the NKJV or the NIV (masculine pronouns are used throughout in these versions). Can you shed some light on this?

The Ancient Peshitta Bible and the translations directly from it are the only versions (sorry KJV only people, but no, your Bible is not inerrant) that have Matthew 27:9-10 correct. All other English versions, including the versions translated from the Latin in the Catholic Church into English, are based on a corrupt Greek text. Matthew was originally written in the Aramaic/Syriac tongue for a Hebrew readership. The Greek text and every single other translation that comes from it (this covers virtually every other version of the Bible in existence except the Peshitta) reads "Then was fulfilled what was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying "And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the value of Him who was priced, whom they of the children of Israel did value, and gave them for the potter's field, as the Lord directed me." The problem with this is that this prophecy did not come from the book of the prophet Jeremiah, it came from the book of the prophet Zechariah, 11:12-13. Whoever that unknown scribe was who translated the original text into Greek made an error. This error was copied down and recopied and made it's way into virtually every single Greek text in existence over the entire ancient world, as well as into the later translations into Latin. The translation from the original Aramaic reads (Lamsa translation): "Then what was spoken by the prophet was fulfilled, namely "I took the thirty pieces of silver, the costly price which was bargained with the children of Israel, and I gave them for the potter's field, as the Lord commanded me." The scribe who translated the original gospel of Matthew into Greek must have added the name of Jeremiah to the original text, perhaps being a Greek disciple unfamiliar with the original Hebrew Old Testament reference, perhaps being careless or tired, whatever the cause was, and this error was then compounded in every single other copy made in Greek, and thus made its way down to us in the present day.

People used to listen to Job.

I love the ESV, but there is one thing the KJV has going for it, that we see in no other versions. Let's take a look at the KJV and the evidence God has put into this version, there is other evidence we should take a look at about this version. Just concentrated on all mentions of God the Father + Son (all false mentions excluded) 1. First look at all mentions in NT and the result? 70 x 7. (not one more, not one less, always) 2. Just looking through the 4 Gospels 343 mentions, which is 7 x 7 x 7 3. Looking at the first 7 Epistles: 7 x 7 mentions. (remember, we’re looking at mentions of God the Father + the Son, skipping all other mentions of father, which are many of course ) 4. So looking for all mentions in the remaining 14 Epistles , total mentions comes to 77. (exactly, always, this is what makes it so amazing, for me? I am astonished with each discovery ) 5. Going to the very last book, Revelation, and again, we see all mentions always come in sevens, here there are only 7 mentions of God the Father and His Son. 6. Adding up all mentions in all of the Epistles by various authors there are 777 mentions. 7. Now looking through all the books of the New Testament, searching for all mentions of “Jesus” and all mentions of the term “Christ”, no other Bible versions show this, only the King James Bible. 777 + 777 These are not man made patterns, but God Who ruleth over all, shows that the King James Bible is the only true Word of God Bible. See Truth is Christ on youtube if you want more proof.

It is not a major point or the underlying reasoning by those who recognise the KJB's perfection that because the KJB has been long time used it is right. In fact, the view of the KJB's perfection is a doctrinal argument based on scripture itself that recognises the Providences and particularities of the KJB as fulfilling that role of being the perfect Bible. That hundreds of years of existence of the KJB is at best a secondary point.

Very nice presentation Mark. I love it, especially the spirit of graciousness.

Perhaps you need to do a video on this: Mistranslations in the KJV: 1. Leviticus 14:10 "meat" should be "grain" since flour is not a meat product. 2. Jeremiah 20:7 "deceived" should be "persuaded" since God does not de deceive His prophets. 3. Matthew 27:9-10 "Jeremy" (Jeremiah) should be "Zechariah" (Jeremiah never made such a prophecy although Zechariah did (Zech. 11:12-13). 4. Acts 12:4 "Easter" should be "Passover" (as it is translated 28 other times in the New Testament) otherwise a pagan word, unknown in the 1st century is used. 5. Acts 22:9 "heard" should be "under- stood" otherwise the verse would contradict Acts 9:7. 6. Romans 8:16, 26 "itself" should be "Him- self" otherwise the personality of the Holy Spirit is denied. 7. Acts 17:28 "offspring" should "be "crea- tion" otherwise the verse would contradict John 1:12. 8. John 20:17 "touch" should be "cling to" ortherwise it would contradict Luke 24:39. 9. Romans 5:9 - "God blessed for ever" should be "the eternally blessed God" other- wise the deity of Jesus is not correct- ly stated. 10. John 14:14 "ask anything" should be "ask ME anything" otherwise it is not clear we can pray to Jesus, denying His deity. 11. Numbers 23:22 "unicorn" should be "rhino- ceros" since unicorns do not exist. 12. Exodus 22:28 "revile the gods" should be "revile the judges" since non-existent "gods" cannot be reviled. 13. Joel 3:4 "Palestine" should be "Philistia" since the region was not known as "Pal- estine until after 129 A.D. 14. Matthew 10:4 "Canaanite" should be "Zeal- ot" since all of Jesus apostles were Jews and Canaanites are not Jews. 15. Romans 9:5 "who is over all" should be "who is God over all" otherwise the deity of Jesus is not clearly presented. 16. Zechariah 9:8 "any more" should be "at this time" otherwise it would be a false prophecy considering 70 AD. 17. Isaiah 5:25 "torn" should be "refuse" to re- flect the word in the Hebrew text.

i have question for you what bible do you read???

I don't beleive the verse makes sence with to spit. Back when job was happy and a pillar of his community they used to spit??

Psalm 119 Thy word ((God's)) is a lampe vnto my feete: and a light vnto my path. ... Revelation 8 And the third Angel sounded, and there fell a great starre from heauen, burning **as it were a lampe**, and it fell vpon the third part of the riuers, and vpon the fountaines of waters: ... Job 41 Out of his mouth ((Satan's)) goe burning lampes, and sparkes of fire leape out. ... Isaiah 14:12-14 12 How art thou fallen from heauen, O Lucifer ((Satan)), sonne of the morning? how art thou cut downe to the ground, which didst weaken the nations?13 For thou hast said in thine heart; I wil ascend into heauen, I wil exalt my throne aboue the starres of God: I wil sit also vpon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the North. 14 I wil ascend aboue the heights of the cloudes, I wil bee like the most High. Seeke ye out of the booke of the Lord, and reade: no one of these shall faile, none shall want her mate: for my mouth, it hath commaunded, and his spirit, it hath gathered them. Moreouer brethren, I declare vnto you the Gospel which I preached vnto you, which also you haue receiued, and wherein yee stand. By which also yee are saued, if yee keepe in memorie what I preached vnto you, vnlesse yee haue beleeued in vaine. For I deliuered vnto you first of all, that which I also receiued, how that Christ died for our sinnes according to the Scriptures: And that he was buried, and that he rose againe the third day according to the Scriptures. But the word of the Lord endureth for euer: & this is the word which by the Gospel is preached vnto you. true1611bible.com/about/ In the beginning was the Word, & the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Doe thy selfe no harme, for we are all heere. Then hee called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell downe before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I doe to be saued? And they saide, Beleeue on the Lord Iesus Christ, and thou shalt be saued, and thy house. And they spake vnto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. Being borne againe, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God which liueth and abideth for euer.

Although this might not be the most doctrinally important verse in Job 17:6 to me after looking at the counter argument and evidence for the KJB reading its the perfect example of why we should always stick with the KJV as final authority since the other readings completely invert the sense and destroy the contrast. If trusting the modern lexicons and scholarship can do this, it’s no wonder why the cults have such power to attack the fundamentals of the Christian faith on the important verses. This is not an error in translation its just your opinion, this video would more accurately be called “why I like the way modern versions translate Job 17:6”.

"...and aforetime I was a tabret" Yes, I'm sure many Christians will lose a lot of sleep over this mistake. Read other versions of the Bible, don't just read the KJV because that's shutting out God's Word for many people.

Mark, have you done a commentary on the KJ translators use of the word "replenish" in Genesis 1:28?

Thank you, Mark. Wonderful, balanced teaching!

Can somebody help me with genesis 14:10 - 14:17. It says the kings of sodom an Gomorrah die, then later it says the kings of sodom are present. ( kjv only)

The translation is not perfect, however I do love the poetic beauty of it. It's absolutely beautiful

There is, of course, perhaps the most famous error in the KJV: “Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.” (Matt 23:24) The translation 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 be “strain 𝘰𝘶𝘵 a gnat,” i.e., straining out gnats by pouring water through a cloth, not straining at (staring intently) at them. But a simple printing error was perpetuated down through the centuries and remains today in modern editions of the King James Bible.

Seriously, who and how do you receive $ ? Do you get paid for trying to cause people to doubt God's word? Would you say that you're born again? And if so how do you know? To God alone be the Glory!!!!