An Indepth Look at Lucifer Morningstar part 1 

Come on if it ain't for movies, you guys know DC is better in every way.

is trigon aware of lucifer morningstar

Very amazing video and yes please continue on with Lucifer Morningstar and when you get done with it. Can you please do another long video about The Spectre & his powers if you can?

please give us a reading list of his appearances in part 2

I'm only salty because you did a more thorough job than me! I'm kidding, of course. Very well done, sir!

I Love that fact Too!😂😍 It’s like in The Sandman Neil Gaiman created a Character Persona for David Bowie!

i just wish they'd do a tiny bit more comic booky, "superpowers" rather than writing arond the mind control crutch every episode. Still, love the show.

Love the show, but oh man I hate how weak he's. He's Lucifer Morningstar, he's a multiversal reality warper, but can easily be defeated by a bullet???

@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity nope, my God is actually well portrayed in the show.

@@riteousrighthand6144 The reason why he doesn't have all of his powers is down to his self-actualisation, he came to earth to be a normal guy and to live the life he wants, thus rejecting his angelic side, as shown by cutting off his wings, so he's left with the powers he can't really get rid of, which is his control over Desire, his strength is higher than most people down to him being an unnaturalised human, and his immortality and invulnerability. It also makes sense why in the show he choose to go to an Earth that is completely untouched by magic, metahumans, aliens and whatnot, he just wanted to be away from everything that reminded him off his previous life. It would of been good if they'd gone deeper and showed off more of his powers, but obviously reality warping wouldn't be useful to the LAPD and crime solving, He's on earth to have a human experience, to learn about humanity, and himself, having all those powers would only further separate him still. We see this with Amenadiel who could literally stop time itself outside of other Celestial beings such as God himself, Angels and Demons, but gave it up due to it keeping him away from humanity and unable to connect to anyone, so we have no idea how powerful Lucifer really was when he first came to Earth, but by the time the show starts he's been there for 5 years so i imagine he had already shed most of his powers, and as we saw in S5 he even lost his power to bring out people's desires.

@@MasterIceyy I mean, that was a lot of writing, to say that's not the story the showrunners wanted to tell. Lucifer cut his wings off in the comics too. Point of fact, is that there's no way they were gonna be able to show Lucifer in his full glory, on a FOX show. Had the series moved to Netflix after season 1, maybe things would be different, but, after 3 seasons, the foundations were already set. Now that he's God, we'll probably get a sniff of that fuller potential.

Orion?

@@staticshotaop561 Orion hasnt went there

@Caleb Mayfield and yet he go there after them.

Lucifer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neron Mordru

isnt Michael his favorite?

@@eyeseeu4621 was lucifer before he revolted

@@yaboiplank6764 i think in the comics, the endless was talking about something like that

Jesus just side eyed you.

But.. can it run crysis? Or.. Can they beat Lucifer?

Doubt it , Lucifer isn't as famous as Goku. Cause anime fans dont interpret the bible as much.

@@papetogaming Lucifer is goku in terms of popularity both in the DC universe and vertigo sandman universe. Way more powerful than goku as well

@@jam5287 yeah no , Lucifer isnt as famous as Superman, Wonder Woman and Batman.

@@papetogaming Lucifer experienced and saw every aspect of the 20 billion years in creation by merely blinking. He’s broken gods plan. He’s been into the void and gone between other creations, other universes. Flash in the speed force is dwarfed by Lucifer lmao

What are his best stories to see more of his character

@@Elricsedric Lucifer 2000, Lucifer 2018 ,Lucifer 2016 etc

@@rupambanik3264 can you tell me all Lucifer comics in order to read

@@Phantom-go9op star with the sandman by neil geiman and then lucifer 2000 and then 2016 and 2018

Neil knows how to make them

True

@@justavirgin3577 it was my comment 😅

Yes

Hope you enjoyed it!

Thank you kindly!

DC knowledge

Glad you like them!

Well then what about the inconsistencies in other characters that are not on that level

@@leto.o5759 What about them? Some characters are inconsistent. For beings that transcend concepts this inconsistency however can be explained.

@@leto.o5759 I mean most comic characters have multiple people writing stories for them, so individual interpretations play a huge role. The best example I can find isn’t even from Comics. It’s from a sci fi series called Warhammer40k. Most nerds know abt it so I won’t explain too much but the most important and influential being in that setting, the emperor, has such inconsistent writings you can’t even definitively say he cared about his sons(the primarchs, Tube bred, Warp made, designed to be war machines.) Some lore shows him being a caring if aloof father, and other lore has the emperor see the primarchs as nothing but tools who insist on calling him father. If the keystone character of a major franchise can have such inconsistent writing then it’s 100% guaranteed that once a comic book character exists long enough you will find inconsistent and downright paradoxical moments in their stories. Happens in every fictional universe to some extent, and tbh it can’t really be helped too much

This guy understands, guys as powerful as trigon lucifer and other concepts, everytime we have seen them is just a facsimile of their true selves and a representation of what they can be depending on the writer

Perfection

I have my problems with the show, like Lucifer being basically nothing more than a supersoldier. However, your comment is a bit disingenuous, no? Lucifer self actualises his vulnerability because Chloe was designed to be his soul mate. There is a connection he has with her that causes him to self consciously make himself mortal around her. You know how someone talks about someone they're in love with "damn, they make me weak"? There is even a whole arc where he is no longer vulnerable around her because of his self actualisation shenanigans. But when she's not around, he is back to his regular old all powerful invincible self.

I also watched those but it wasn’t meant any disrespect to Lucifer I still love the show and love his self aculization but he was basically the more powerful charecters

Imo the greatest game of all time honestly

Satan is your favorite character?

@@osarumenerhunmwunsee one of my favourite characters (not because he is the devil or satan). He isn't evil in DC. I am referring to Lucifer of DC and not of general belief.

I love Merlin the show on Netflix ( Morgan Collins) idk if I spelled it right

Didn't know u would be here. What sup ivan

@@markstriker925 I make guest star appearances all over RU-vid lol What's poppin!

Pretty hard to see Amazo losing that honestly. I don't think he could kill either of them but he would win a fight.

@@WebCamParrot thanks for answering,also are there any connections between the great evil beast and Lucifer,

That'll be in part 3 of this series lol.

How does it support the Presence not being all powerful?

well, it doesn't necessarily support that, I'm just saying that it supports the idea that the beliefs of lower beings create the power for any higher being in DC as metron says

@@kaimarquez8046 it only shapes them, but not give them their power

@@jrijuju9474 kind of. It's kind of like how if you just have pure materials of metal to make a gun, by itself is not going to fire a bullet at all, until you make it like you said. Yet, it's been said in the comics that when God's connection to humanity is severed, he dies. So I think it's a mix both

It's a fictional comic , they have their own rules to make it more interesting, use your head .

Lucifer is a celestial. They don't really have a form in spacetime. They're beyond that. They don't have a definite form. Or a predefined and immutable form. It could be that this is not even how Lucifer sees himself. Hell, calling Lucifer a 'he', is also reductive since the angels are sexless and genderless. What we see as this humanoid figure with wings could just be how we actualise him. How we perceive him. Or it could be how angels have chosen to to be perceived. Regardless, they are beyond our comprehension. Hell, perhaps the Presence programmed humans to see celestials in this way because if we saw them in their true form, we would go insane. Kind of like witnessing an Eldritch god or God himself.

Belief changes things retroactively, cats used to rule the earth too.

Yeah but it also stated that THE SOURCE is still above The Chronicler and Chronicler say (YES) . meaning THE PRESENCE is still know to be a Supreme GOD in DC.

@Abhikrishna PS What?

@Abhikrishna PS Go back and read DC comics for yourselves. The Presence is the God of the DC and stated that many times. However The Divine Presence is the absolute powers and God of the DC Omniverse.

@Abhikrishna PS Hell even The Chronicler itself stated THE SOURCE is Beyond everything. Man have you been reading anything lately about DC comics? Hell wonder woman herself ascended to higher power being , because of The hands,

@Abhikrishna PS You just talking about nothing, seriously sit down somewhere you are doing extra

Oh hell nah they all up on spunch bob shit

😞its 3am

Sir this is Wendy's

Can you please respond to this comment. 3:37-27:12

it may actually be an irrelevant tool to him or I should say that his powers work like that already. He imposes his will on the things around him and forges them to his purpose. The Spectre's powers were described as functioning in a very similar manner during Volume 4 and was directly compared to a Green Lantern ring saying they worked the same just that the Spectre force was a more efficient or powerful medium for this. Lucifer's power is likely similar if not more absolute.

@@WebCamParrot i guess i just vastly underestimated what lucifer is capable of 😂

@@TruthBeTolled Literally, Lucifer has absolute control over the very medium of reality. It bends to his whim.

@@WebCamParrot Can you please work on The Spectre and all his powers? 😊

@SSJ4GAWD LEDGER Lucifer, in the comics, isn't inherently evil. Plus, he has absolute control over the fabric of reality in the DCU. That spirit bomb, if it could even hurt him, would never touch him.

Not just aliens but other cultures like the Norse people have their own ideas and beliefs surrounding how creation occurred. The Kryptonians and Martians and stuff basically have their own pantheons but the Human power of belief is noted to be particularly powerful which is why beings like The Presence grew to be so strong.

@@WebCamParrot is the presence really super strong? He is atleast creation level and that isn't impressive for many reasons. Darkseid, myx, lucifer, Michael and the Spectre with many others have the same exact position. The presence just have more characters below him who are also creation level, is that why you think he is super strong?

@@godking1257 wow you are saying gods creations are stronger than him xD

@@leto.o5759 nah

@@godking1257 It seemed to me that you were implying it

The Adversary, the Father of Sin, Old Scratch, Satan and I am the Son of God.

@@julianmcmillan2867 those are all my titles yes

Right that what I like to watch

Lucifer is so powerful he can’t have a stronger form, also Lucifer wins

There's no versions of lucifer and mordru is powerful than him

@tigerLuver How can you say that demon night lucifer and new 52 lucifer isn't the same lucifer?I haven't seen anywhere a statement that says there are multiple lucifers in DC

@tigerLuver Mordru's power level always increases. In every single appearance he's stronger than before. I'm talking about the mordru from the JL Dark 2018. A simple fraction of his power made an entire team of Lords of chaos powerful enough to easily take down the Lords of oder. The same Lords of oder who were destroying the gods sphere. The Presence,Angles and the endless lives in gods sphere (says the official map of the DC multiverse) and combined power of Lord of oder was destroying it And a fraction of Mordru's power >Them

@tigerLuver those difference avatars that were shown in lucifer 2018 are his reincarnations. 2018 lucifer is his Hindu afterlife. They all are the same being

She will be fine she created her own universe where people worship her even as a giant wolf too.

@@minatodroger7890 she dosent have her Universe, in lucifer 2000 Elaine folded her creation and the main one into a singular Universe.

@@minatodroger7890 what I wanted to say was that does she need belief?

@@godking1257 no none of them do really the presence and all of them existed before humans and aliens so they don't need belief. Elaine as the full power of the demiurge she doesn't need that one bit.

@@godking1257 yet still in lucifer volume 2. He went to her universe after that fact. So I guess she separated them again.

Lucifer... would win. As he said, all the creatures in Hell were far weaker than he, and he could have killed any of them with ease

Trigon is the embodiment of all that is evil. I don't think he's losing to Lucifer

​@@mikirin363or weaker. The presence was unable to end blight.

Captain atom has some really boring comics tbh

@@hashiondiscord8540 I didn't know that but that could be fair enough

It is I

@@utsuro3962 Yeah, while he's not alone in doing so . Webcam Parrot acts as if he knows everything there is to know about comics.. 'all comics included' yeah even the wrong ones

@@utsuro3962 but good analogy I completely agree

@@utsuro3962 also make sure you screen shot all of this for proof.. WCP is known to delete comments where he isn't in the right

@@Dream-qy9ir wrong