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Discussing the Sierpiński Triangle, Fermat Primes, and Constructible Polygons.
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@numberphile
@numberphile 5 часов назад
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@jayluck8047
@jayluck8047 День назад
I love the way she can draw triangles with so much equilaterality.
@johnjeffreys6440
@johnjeffreys6440 День назад
very isosolece
@jayluck8047
@jayluck8047 День назад
@@johnjeffreys6440 - did you mean, isolesence? But I got you.
@johnjeffreys6440
@johnjeffreys6440 День назад
@@jayluck8047 yust a yoke 🤤
@Jivvi
@Jivvi 6 часов назад
​@@jayluck8047 *isoscelescence
@rogerkearns8094
@rogerkearns8094 День назад
Amazing. The moment you said, convert to binary, I saw it - but the effect not continuing forever, I didn't see.
@leif1075
@leif1075 19 часов назад
But for gods sake theres no resson to think of binary..its contrived and out of nowhere rught?? No obewould rver think of that no.matter how smartbyou are
@andrasszabo1570
@andrasszabo1570 18 часов назад
@@leif1075 But you just saw that someone has thought of that and did convert it to binary. It's not about being smart. It's about having the affinity and the time to play around with numbers.
@Yulenka-
@Yulenka- 18 часов назад
​@@leif1075When you're dealing with Fermat numbers, there's all the reason in the world to use binary haha 😅 You can easily derive binary representation of their products since each number only has bits in two positions. I'm sure the pattern will reveal itself very quickly if you continue down this path
@JuusoAlasuutari
@JuusoAlasuutari 4 часа назад
​@@leif1075Binary is the smallest integral base. Binary is arguably the fundamental number system and everything else is arbitrary.
@element54_
@element54_ День назад
My heart broke at 9:48 "until row 33".
@RealCadde
@RealCadde День назад
For a moment, my brain heard "until rule 33" and I was like "don't you mean rule 34?"
@Testgeraeusch
@Testgeraeusch День назад
@@RealCadde "If we mathematicians can write it down, it must exist."
@Sharxee
@Sharxee 23 часа назад
And I was thinking Parker for some reason.
@sk8pkl
@sk8pkl 21 час назад
33 degrees in free masonry. Not a coincidence.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 21 час назад
@@Testgeraeusch Calm down there, Max Tegmark.
@MonsieurBiga
@MonsieurBiga 23 часа назад
Ayliean : you can timelapse this Brady : don't tell me what to do
@soilnrock1979
@soilnrock1979 16 часов назад
At what point do they have this conversation??
@liambohl
@liambohl 11 часов назад
0:53
@soilnrock1979
@soilnrock1979 6 часов назад
​@@liambohlOh OK, the second part is in filming not in saying :-)
@betoneiracromadarebaixada8187
@betoneiracromadarebaixada8187 18 часов назад
the Sierpinski triangle really just randomly jumpscares people when it feels like it
@jimi02468
@jimi02468 Час назад
I thought it was pi that did that
@McLir
@McLir 22 часа назад
Take Pascal's Triangle and dot out all the odd numbers - that also gives a Sierpinski triangle. Seashells can also produce Sierpinski-like patterns.
@JohnRunyon
@JohnRunyon 15 часов назад
I love the shell tattoo while talking about pretty math drawings 😂
@thatonedynamitecuber
@thatonedynamitecuber День назад
That is the straightest triangle i have ever seen. To clarify I mean by hand not by any other means
@Ayliean
@Ayliean День назад
Pretty much the straightest thing I've ever done.
@bagelnine9
@bagelnine9 День назад
💀 💀💀 💀 💀 💀💀💀💀 💀 💀 💀💀 💀💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@thatonedynamitecuber
@thatonedynamitecuber День назад
@@bagelnine9 nice italic sierpinski you got there. SKHULLLLEMOJIIIII
@catmacopter8545
@catmacopter8545 День назад
​@@bagelnine9isnt this Wolfram automaton rule 90
@cosmiccake791
@cosmiccake791 День назад
​@@thatonedynamitecuberno. No matt rose here...
@hepiik.8822
@hepiik.8822 21 час назад
It might be weird, but, as a Pole, seeing a properly written polish name made me smile
@ChknKng
@ChknKng 9 часов назад
What does the accent over the n do to the pronunciation?
@MichalGlowacz86
@MichalGlowacz86 6 часов назад
@@ChknKng It turns n into a nasal consonant. Polish ń sounds similar to Spanish ñ. Edit: it was pointed out to me, that n is already a nasal consonant. If I got the terminology right, then n will be voiced denti-aleovar nasal consonant while ń will be voiced palatal nasal. But feel free to correct me again! Soundwise though my analogy to Spanish ñ holds, with Polish ń being maybe a bit shorter.
@SylveonSimp
@SylveonSimp 4 часа назад
Grzegorz Brzeczyszczykiewicz
@drenz1523
@drenz1523 3 часа назад
​@@MichalGlowacz86 But n is already a nasal consonant...
@MichalGlowacz86
@MichalGlowacz86 3 часа назад
@@drenz1523 Damn, you're right. It seems n and ń are different sub-types of nasal though. Ń will be voiced palatal nasal I think, while n is denti-aleovar.
@kirillsukhomlin3036
@kirillsukhomlin3036 День назад
And if you just take Pascal triangle mod 2, there would be proper infinitely growing Sierpinski triangle.
23 часа назад
Yes. I think it's utterly fascinating that people can avoid seeing that. On the other hand it's something you might have to anticipate to look for.
@NatiNugasu
@NatiNugasu 23 часа назад
Ayliean: timelapse this Brady Brady: 👍 *awkward silence*
@TheArizus
@TheArizus День назад
Fun side note, one of the problems on the 2023 British Algorithmic Olympiad was related to finding rows of the Sierpinski triangle when written in binary (similar to this)
@morganconnelly5734
@morganconnelly5734 18 часов назад
Ah Ayliean coming back again with the amazing content! I love seeing her come back to the channel with her incredible mathematical story telling
@oliverfalco7060
@oliverfalco7060 15 часов назад
4:25 Looking at someone making a pentagon with compass and ruler is always so exciting :3
@Bronzescorpion
@Bronzescorpion День назад
The 15 in binary mistake was somewhat funny considering Ayliean pointed out how close it was to 16. Even without giving it much thought, one could easily conclude that it must then be a row of ones, as all the numbers that are 2^n-1 must follow this pattern, before the next number ie. the number that is a power of two rolls over and becomes a number with a 1 followed by a string of zeroes (equal to n).
@josephpk4878
@josephpk4878 День назад
Neat to see this geometry again. I just designed a 3d model based on Sierpiński's Triangle, which is a 3D rendered pyramid of the 2D fractal, but I took it a step further and actually modelled the negative space, then printed out these interesting cubes composed of negative and positive 3-sided pyramids - beautiful things, especially when printed with clear materials.
@jellorelic
@jellorelic День назад
Gonna tease us like that and not offer photos? Maaaaaan...
@genghiskhan6688
@genghiskhan6688 День назад
yeah I wanna see that too!
@happyvirus6590
@happyvirus6590 День назад
5:08 and the length from that point to the edge of the circle is the *golden ratio*
@stickfiftyfive
@stickfiftyfive День назад
and the length from that point to the edge of the circle *is the side length times the Golden ratio*. It's only the Golden ratio itself if the sidelength is 1. Worth clarifying.
@kappasphere
@kappasphere День назад
I think an interesting way to generate an image of a sierpinski triangle is to take every pixel coordinate (x, y), and color the pixel if x & y == 0, where "&" is the bitwise and operator.
@bogdan_ostaficiuc
@bogdan_ostaficiuc День назад
xd ur imagining it
@ulob
@ulob 23 часа назад
​@@bogdan_ostaficiuche's not
@bogdan_ostaficiuc
@bogdan_ostaficiuc 23 часа назад
@@ulob how? can you please explain? i'm dumbfounded
@maksymisaiev1828
@maksymisaiev1828 22 часа назад
@@bogdan_ostaficiuc it won't build exact sierpinski triangle but more like something area of sierpinski triangle. Here is easy python code to check: for i in range (0,40): for j in range(0,40): if i&j == 0: print(0, end="") else: print("_",end="") print("") You can play in numbers and still see that it is building triangles if you play with range numbers.
@maksymisaiev1828
@maksymisaiev1828 22 часа назад
​@@bogdan_ostaficiuc somehow youtube removed my comment. But idea is that bitwise operator gives 1 only in case when x and y share the same binary 1 at that position (in other words, it is binary multiplication). If we look at rows only, first row will be filled with 0, second row will have flappening 0 and 1, well because we compar numbers X1 and X0 and only X1 will return non zero. The third row is also similar. We compare 10 (binary 2) with numbers like X00, X01, X10, X11 and only last 2 numbers will return non zero bitwise response. Same for further rows. But the same picture is for columns, because we just flip x and y coordinates.
@jaymanier7286
@jaymanier7286 День назад
"Timelapse this." "...No." 😄
@waltercisneros9535
@waltercisneros9535 23 часа назад
Good to see a old style video, without the animations instead the very draws of our favorites mathematicians
@WAMTAT
@WAMTAT День назад
Heck yeah, more triangles!!!!!
@johnjeffreys6440
@johnjeffreys6440 День назад
Isosceles!
@ggb3147
@ggb3147 День назад
I really appreciate keeping an acute over the letter N. Greetings from Poland ;)
@xinpingdonohoe3978
@xinpingdonohoe3978 День назад
I'm not even offered it. Just ñ.
@HoSza1
@HoSza1 8 часов назад
Ok, let's just name it The Parker Triangle.😂
@jaspermcjasper3672
@jaspermcjasper3672 8 часов назад
3:00 - I was afraid of this. Another Roof does the same. Euclid does NOT allow you to set a compass to a length for the purpose of transporting that length by lifting both legs and moving to another place in the diagram. A compass in strict Euclideanism loses its length-setting if you stop pressing it into the drawing-surface. Allowing a compass to transport a length is the same as allowing the marking of the edge of the straight-edge. Now, it can be proved that if a person can't do something using a Euclidean compass, then they also can't do it with a length-transporting compass either. Under the Law of Contrapositives, then, if you CAN do something with a length-transporting compass, then, you can ALSO do it with a stricter Euclidean compass. So, demonstrating a proof with a length-transporting compass proves that you could ALSO prove it with a stricter Euclidean compass. The universe of theorems that can be proved by Euclid isn't EXPANDED by adding length-transporting compasses, so it's not "cheating" in THAT sense. You can't "sneak in" any invalid theorems using length-transporting compasses. HOWEVER, and this is the key point that everyone misses, the diagram you construct of the proof, using a length-transporting compass, IS NOT THE SAME DIAGRAM as you'd construct of the proof of the same theorem using a stricter Euclidean compass, even though the existence of the former PROVES the existence of the latter. People are just missing the fact that if you stand on dry land and prove that there IS a method for doing something underwater, you haven't shown anyone how to do that thing underwater. You've merely shown that somewhere somehow there is some way to do it. That's NOT THE SAME!
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 6 часов назад
You are correct to say that marking the straight-edge enables constructions that are not possible using classical tools. "Allowing a compass to transport a length is the same as allowing the marking of the edge of the straight-edge." This isn't true. In Book 1 Prop. 2, Euclid shows how to use a classical compass to transport a length. This proves that anything constructible using straight edge and length-transporting compass is also constructible using straight edge and classical compass. So allowing a length-transporting compass is *not* the same as marking the straight-edge.
@DeclanMBrennan
@DeclanMBrennan 16 часов назад
I didn't know this cool connection but another one is coloring the numbers in Pascal's triangle according to whether they are even or odd.
@Buzk_4
@Buzk_4 День назад
Patterns fool ya
@Rubrickety
@Rubrickety 18 часов назад
How they fool ya…
@yiannchrst
@yiannchrst День назад
damn! I had accidentally discovered this some day while bored at school! I didn't go far enough to see that the pattern brakes though! Cool to see!!
@Nawakooo0
@Nawakooo0 23 часа назад
It's always a delight to see Ayliean on Numberphile 💜
@TonboIV
@TonboIV 7 часов назад
The thumbnail immediately grabbed my attention because there was something weirdly familiar about 65537. And of course the reason is because it is one more than 65536, which 2^16, which is the number of possible values in two bytes, and _that_ number can't help coming up in computer science quite often. So, came for the eerie number, learned something interesting-and vaguely annoying-about constructable polygons. Thanks I guess?
@cybore213
@cybore213 Час назад
That's what drew me in as well.
@panzer1896
@panzer1896 17 часов назад
You used to sell the brown papers on eBay…do you still sell the used brown papers? These ones would be pretty cool to get.
@itioticginger9520
@itioticginger9520 19 часов назад
I noticed at 6:35 that either side of 2^2^X were consistently constructible, as in either side of 2^2=4 meaning 3 and 5, then 2^4=16, and 15, 17 both worked, then 2^8=256, with 255, 257, then 2^16=65536 with 65535 and 65537 working and the final one shown was 2^32-1 This is too convenient to not be a pattern, and no one has ever been wrong when thinking a pattern holds true after a few iterations Edit: I did not expect to be immediately disproven
@jamesknapp64
@jamesknapp64 18 часов назад
it has to do with the fact that the product of all up to "nth" Fermat Numbers is 2 less than the next Fermat Number 3 x 5 = 15 = 17 - 2 3 x 5 x 17 = 255 = 257 - 2 3 x 5 x 17 x 257 = 65535 = 65537 - 2 3 x 5 x 17 x 257 x 65537 = 4294967295 = 4274967297 - 2 ; etc Note this another way to show that there are infinately many primes. Since all Fermat Numbers are odd and due to the product relationship above the only common factor could be 2 that means they all have different prime factors. Since we have infinate fermat numbers there are infinately many primes.
@volodyadykun6490
@volodyadykun6490 День назад
4:15 I wonder how many people will scream this isn't allowed (in any case, you can find the center with these rules)
@JohnDoe-ti2np
@JohnDoe-ti2np День назад
Alternatively, start with the center.
@esajpsasipes2822
@esajpsasipes2822 День назад
You can first draw the line, choose any point on it, and draw a circle of any lenght with that point as a center. Then you end up in the starting position without "breaking rules".
@acaryadasa
@acaryadasa 23 часа назад
I didn't "scream", but yeah I noticed and posted. I suggest drawing the circle, creating a chord, make a perpendicular bisector of the chord to create a diameter, then create a perpendicular bisector of the diameter for the center.
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 23 часа назад
Technically, you needed to identify the center in order to draw the circle in the first place.
@ianstopher9111
@ianstopher9111 21 час назад
It's not the only time we get a finite list of terms. Finite normed division algebras have dimensions 2^n for n=1,2,3,4 and that's it. The general solution in radicals of polynomial equations only applies for powers n=1,2,3,4 and that's it. Fermat primes only for n=0,1,2,3,4. I recall at least in the first two cases they are related, but no-one knows if this also applies to Fermat primes or is just a coincidence.
@MooImABunny
@MooImABunny 14 часов назад
what is it with the number 5 that keeps breaking these sequences 😂 (also there's no proof currently that there is no other Fermat primes at all. but it does seem pretty likely
@marwynthemage
@marwynthemage 20 часов назад
Interesting. However, my favorite method of constructing the Sierpiński triangle will always be using recursive quad trees: draw the upper right quadrant black, and the other quadrants as the original quad tree (with the upper right quadrants black, recursively). You obviously need to stop rendering after a while, otherwise the entire image will be black :-)
@bkuker
@bkuker День назад
Any chance you'll talk about why there is this relationship between odd constructible polygons and fermat primes? Is it proven, or just coincidental? Would finding another fermat number mean finding more (large) odd constructible polygons? Does the relationship tell us anything about how we can construct them?
@stephenbeck7222
@stephenbeck7222 22 часа назад
I believe the connection is proven in Gauss’ seminal work on arithmetic (number theory), in the same book he demonstrated the construction of the 17 sided polygon. I would guess the proof is beyond the scope of this channel.
@tomkerruish2982
@tomkerruish2982 22 часа назад
It's too much to fit in this comment (appropriate for something Fermat-related), but it boils down to algebra. A straightedge and compass allow us to add, subtract, multiply, divide, and take square roots. (This is why we can't duplicate the cube since that would require a cube root.) Constructing a polygon with Fermat-prime-many sides can be done by performing a sequence of such computations. For further details, look up 'splitting polynomial'.
@jamesknapp64
@jamesknapp64 18 часов назад
Another Roof did a breakdown on the proof this. And yes this is proven that construcble odd factor distrinct odd fermat primes Yes finding another Fermat prime would mean there is an incredably large number of sides constructable polygon. Currently the smallest Fermat number that we don't know if its Prime or Composite is F_33 or 2^2^33 + 1 which is about *2.5 Billion DIGITS* long. However most number theorists believe that there are only 5 Fermat Primes. Yes Being a Fermat Prime tells you how to construct 17, 257 and 65537 sided polygons.
@KarolKarasiewicz
@KarolKarasiewicz 19 часов назад
Wow! Two things: 1. Miss, You're great at drawing, triangles drawn by hand, double wow. 2. So mamy theorems You just mentioned by the way, just like toystory... Triple wow! Thank You, that was great.
@yoshi-cs6ib
@yoshi-cs6ib 12 часов назад
The sierpinski triangle is just the pascal triangle in GF(2), no? That's probavly a reason why it pops up a bunch.
@Sylocat
@Sylocat День назад
I remembered the Fermat Primes from that earlier video series on constructable polygons.
@N7492
@N7492 День назад
The "chaos game" method also constructs the Sierpinski triangle. Counterintuitive!
@cesarmontes7235
@cesarmontes7235 9 часов назад
First I was sad at that "until row 33", but then I immediately remembered Gaudí and this makes it somehow more magical and intriguing. Is there something more to this?
@ronny332
@ronny332 День назад
My brain smoked a bit while keeping track, but hey, it makes sense 🙂Thanks for showing!
@timetraveler1234-m3q
@timetraveler1234-m3q День назад
Hey, cool golden ratio tattoo ❤
@nate8334
@nate8334 18 часов назад
My favorite Fractal. The blood type compatability chart is also a sierpinski triangle. I thought it was interesting that information about us could be Fractal in addition to the physical shapes of things like blood vessels.
@DustinRodriguez1_0
@DustinRodriguez1_0 3 часа назад
The Sierpinski Triangle is pretty wild, and that it shows up in so many weird places.
@David_Last_Name
@David_Last_Name 17 часов назад
"This is my favorite way to draw a serpinski triangle." "Great. I need 34 rows." "No."
@MrMctastics
@MrMctastics 12 часов назад
With the 1's and 0's serpinski triangle, I thinks its called Glaisher's Theorem which implies that the sum of each row constructed this way must be a power of two. This kind of builds off the discussion in the comments about pascal's triangle since the nth row is 2^n
@thirstyCactus
@thirstyCactus 16 часов назад
Come for the math, stay for the dazzling hair and makeup! :D
@HunterJE
@HunterJE 14 часов назад
Noticed that at least as far as it goes that triangle of odd constructible primes in binary is the same as if you make Pascal's triangle by the "add the two terms above each position" method but do the addition mod 2 (or, equivalently, XOR the terms above each position)...
@RealCadde
@RealCadde День назад
Start of video. All i know is, the number in the thumbnail is 2 to the power 16, plus 1. Dealing with powers of 2 all my life has damaged me.
@esajpsasipes2822
@esajpsasipes2822 День назад
someone could say it upgraded you
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 6 часов назад
5:20 Your line cut the little circle in two points and you used the further one. An alternative would be to pick the *closer* of those two points. Your third circle would have then been smaller and perhaps easier to draw?
@winnablebtw459
@winnablebtw459 23 часа назад
Strictly speaking, at 3:00, you can't pick up lengths with a compass in construction problems. Doing so would allow you to trisect an angle which is famously impossible.
@PaulFisher
@PaulFisher 21 час назад
Can’t you transfer a distance between two arbitrary points by constructing a parallelogram with one edge being the distance you want to transfer and the second being the line from the source to the destination point?
@WK-5775
@WK-5775 21 час назад
Please explain: How can one trisect an angle if one is allowed to pick up a length with a compass?
@dingus42
@dingus42 21 час назад
Wait why not? I thought that was one of the primary functions of the compass, to keep a set distance
@zmaj12321
@zmaj12321 21 час назад
I'm pretty sure one of the first proofs in Euclid's Elements is how to transfer a distance without being able to "store" distances on the compass.
@dingus42
@dingus42 20 часов назад
@@zmaj12321 but you literally cannot use a compass for its normal function of drawing an arc without it being able to hold its distance
@machevellian79
@machevellian79 21 час назад
Great video, fascinating! Thanks for sharing.
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 21 час назад
Fascinating.
@coulie27
@coulie27 19 часов назад
Love the Sierpinski Triangle !
@flamencoprof
@flamencoprof 5 часов назад
Another way to generate a Sierpiński Triangle is with a Cellular Automaton. (Memories of BASIC and a C64 a long time ago.)
@nazokashii
@nazokashii 12 часов назад
One of my favourite shapes as well :D so cool! Thank you for sharing
@losveratos
@losveratos 17 часов назад
Really like her tattoos. She has a good artist.
@oliverwashbrook8834
@oliverwashbrook8834 6 часов назад
Was this recorded at KCL? An amazing link between number theory and geometry
@hedlund
@hedlund День назад
Oh, that's brought back memories of CS classes.
@David_Last_Name
@David_Last_Name 17 часов назад
Lmao. I felt like Brady was refusing to timelapse it just to make a point. 😁
@CHAYITO-ii5pt
@CHAYITO-ii5pt День назад
FASCINATING
@Ny0s
@Ny0s День назад
This was a really beautiful construction
@Pheonix1328
@Pheonix1328 7 часов назад
I like how the triangle shows up in 1D cellular automata.
@karlwaugh30
@karlwaugh30 17 часов назад
Awesome episode. I wonder what properties the binary sieprisnki numbers have
@MooImABunny
@MooImABunny 14 часов назад
ok that's very cool (and also heartbreaking 😂) but if we allow the use of non-prime Fermat numbers and their (distinct term) products, do we then get the full Sierpinski triangle? (sorry Poles, I don't have a grave n on my keyboard) /the mod2 Pascal's triangle
@NoNeedForRandomNumbers
@NoNeedForRandomNumbers День назад
Better asmr than asmr
@xethlorien4736
@xethlorien4736 День назад
well i wasn't expecting all of that. :D
@idrisbalavakos
@idrisbalavakos 19 часов назад
I could smell that Sharpie from here
@ex59neo53
@ex59neo53 День назад
I used to find fractals beautiful ,then I had to study them 30 years ago ,before Internet ,and learned to hate the name Hausdorff :)
@EastBurningRed
@EastBurningRed День назад
just learned about haushorff in topology, what made you hate him?
@mathphysicsnerd
@mathphysicsnerd День назад
_"What do you MEAN represent a set of points with transcendental metric definition?!"_
@OneTrueBadShoe
@OneTrueBadShoe 21 час назад
I absolutely adore Ayliean. I love seeing her visual representations of the beauty of math(s). Bonus: Those fingernails are sweet.
@joysanghavi13
@joysanghavi13 21 час назад
Gauss proved that Fermat's prime numbers as polygon sides are constructible, when he was around 16 years old
@iamalsometao
@iamalsometao 14 часов назад
Sierpinski ASMR
@sebastianrowan5423
@sebastianrowan5423 5 минут назад
Thumbs up for the Keffiyeh!
@Trolligi
@Trolligi 22 часа назад
9:11 isn’t that basically Pascal’s triangle but in binary (where 0 is even and 1 is odd)
@elitettelbach4247
@elitettelbach4247 12 часов назад
Very interesting!
@janTasita
@janTasita 17 часов назад
My favourite place where an unexpected Sierpinski triangle appears is the evolution of a long straight line in Conway's game of life.
@soilnrock1979
@soilnrock1979 16 часов назад
That game got me through school without dying from boredome.
@acaryadasa
@acaryadasa 23 часа назад
IMO, using the center hole of the compass to find the center of a circle is kind of illegal according to the rules of Euclidian constructability. It doesn't really matter for the sake of this great video explanation, but strictly speaking one should/could construct a circle, draw a chord, construct a perpendicular bisector of the cord to construct a diameter, then create a perpendicular bisector of the diameter to find the center.
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 23 часа назад
How do you construct the circle in the first place without starting with the center?
@MrScottev
@MrScottev 15 часов назад
Why did you use 1 as a starting point for constructible polygons?
@keir92
@keir92 День назад
immediately my brain is wondering why that's exactly one more than 2^16
@ant0n1o13
@ant0n1o13 6 часов назад
"you can timelapse this" Keeps showing it in real time
@JohnPretty1
@JohnPretty1 19 часов назад
Is Ayliean dating Tom Craawford? Match made in heaven.
@DeathlyTired
@DeathlyTired День назад
If you increase the tools to {compass, straight edge, can fold/unfold the paper (plane)} are all polygons then constrctible?
@PrimordialOracleOfManyWorlds
@PrimordialOracleOfManyWorlds День назад
in the Sierpinski triangle fractal, i noticed the binary ones made up the upright triangles and the binary zeros made up the inverted triangles. suppose you do the fractal, fill binary ones in the upright triangles and binary zeros in the inverted triangles, then assemble the binary numbers, and convert to base 10 numbers. What numbers do you get?
@WK-5775
@WK-5775 21 час назад
Fill the entire fractal? You'll get nothing at all because there are infinitely many layers of numbers. Instead, if one stops at some level, (and if I understand your question correctly), one will get exactly the products of finitely many different Fermat numbers.
@bengoodwin2141
@bengoodwin2141 День назад
I think it wasn't super clear, is that list the only odd constructable polygons? So there's a finite number of them?
@Milan_Openfeint
@Milan_Openfeint День назад
Depends on the number of Fermat primes. They get big fast, so we didn't check many, and I guess there's no proof either way. Statistically, the chance of Fermat number being prime is 1:2^n while size is 2^2^n, so I'd guess maybe there's one more somewhere and that's it.
@bengoodwin2141
@bengoodwin2141 День назад
@@Milan_Openfeint the statistical argument doesn't seem very sound. Nothing involved is truly random, but we'd need some kind of breakthrough on prime numbers to understand better. If the series is finite, it would be surprising if there are any more. If it is infinite, then they must just get more and more spaced apart, like the primes.
@Milan_Openfeint
@Milan_Openfeint День назад
@@bengoodwin2141 I was thinking like 1/2+1/4+1/8... is finite, you'd only get 2 primes ever if these were the chances, and the chances are actually lower.
@stefansynths
@stefansynths 22 часа назад
How do we know a certain polygon isn't constructable? The method we use for all the others doesn't work, sure, but could there be another approach that no one has thought of yet?
@jatsko3113
@jatsko3113 20 часов назад
Because that specific method - compass and straightedge - is what defines the concept of constructibility.
@lyrimetacurl0
@lyrimetacurl0 День назад
I wonder if there's a connection between Fermat Primes and Triperfect Numbers.
@solarcrystal5494
@solarcrystal5494 15 часов назад
Ok but what would those binary numbers be if you kept going anyways? anything useful? maybe check for more fermat primes there
@777kangiron777
@777kangiron777 День назад
Huh, so thats how you triforce.
@polyrhythmia
@polyrhythmia День назад
So there's only a handful of Fermat primes?
@vapormermaid
@vapormermaid 18 часов назад
As soon as I saw the number in the thumbnail I knew it had something to do with powers of 2.
@MrBmarcika
@MrBmarcika 22 часа назад
what we get is the mod 2 pascal triangle right?
@Jivvi
@Jivvi 6 часов назад
How is constructing a nonagon not possible if a triangle is?
@corcorandm
@corcorandm День назад
My favorite is pascals triangle color in the odd values
@joannehorn637
@joannehorn637 23 часа назад
Ahh it's like last week's maths circle! 😉
@bengoodwin2141
@bengoodwin2141 День назад
Hey, that's a power of two Edit: one more than
@asheep7797
@asheep7797 День назад
Nah, it's one more than a power of two.
@bengoodwin2141
@bengoodwin2141 День назад
Right, sorry, meant to say that ​@@asheep7797
@gummibando
@gummibando День назад
@@asheep7797 "It's one louder."
@boskayer
@boskayer День назад
How do you prove that line is one fifth of the great circle?
@darkhorse1236
@darkhorse1236 День назад
It almost looks like this binary sierpinksy construction is related to Pascal's (binary) triangle
@aalhard
@aalhard 19 часов назад
That was neat
@Mizar88
@Mizar88 День назад
my mind is blown
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