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Analog Computer with Op Amp to solve differential equation 

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Four operational amplifiers with two feedback loops are utilized to design an analog computer that is able to solve a second order differential equation that relates the applied input voltage signal to the output voltage of this circuit. A quick method using KCL is shown to compute and find the voltage transfer function and characteristic equation of this circuit. Assuming proper selection and biasing of Op Amp (good slew rate, low drift and low noise with proper bandwidth given desired application) this circuit has a DC gain of 4 (in steady state) and also operates well with sinusoids. For more circuit examples please see • Electrical Engineering... . For example for Audio signal processing application, we can try resistor R=1k and capacitor C=1nF. This circuit effectively is a second order lowpass filter with a transfer function of 4*(wn)^2/(S^2 + 2*zeta*wn*S + (wn)^2) where natural frequency wn=0.5/(R*C) = 500k rad/sec and damping factor zeta=3 which means this circuit is overdamped. If one volt DC voltage is applied at input, the circuit output voltage should smoothly reaches 4 volts at the output in roughly 50-60 micro seconds. As the second test we can apply 10 kHz sinusoidal voltage (with say amplitude 1 volt) at input and examine if the 10kHz sinusoid appears at the output with four times amplitude. It should because 3dB bandwidth or cutoff frequency of this filter is roughly 80000 radian per second (or nearly 15kHz) and hence 10kHz sinusoid is considered in-band for this circuit. Assuming the DC test and sinusoid test are passed then we can try other input waveforms.

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@STEMprof
@STEMprof 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching. For more Analog Computer & Op Amp Circuit examples please see: Logarithm Analog Computer with Op Amp ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RpKEq5WyoLg.html Push-Pull Power Amplifier with Darlington Transistors ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-866MYibo8yE.html Sallen-Key Analog Filter Design Tutorial ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KwUnQXbk7gM.html Analog Computer to Raise Signal to power n ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IUTlBH1UraE.html Op Amp Analog Computer Differential Equation Solver: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ENq39EesfPw.html Full-Wave Rectifier ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DJJMNU-CYcg.html. Differential Equation Solver Analog Circuit ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R3X5AYNZGEI.html Triangle Oscillator Op Amp circuit ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JF5Up_cuL9k.html Diode-Amplifier VTC is analyzed in ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vpGZkafxMJM.html For more analog signal processing examples see: ru-vid.com/group/PLrwXF7N522y4c7c-8KBjrwd7IyaZfWxyt I hope these Circuit engineering and analysis videos are helpful.
@mustafaamirpour8231
@mustafaamirpour8231 17 часов назад
Your videos are very inspiring and informative. I never get bored watching them. Do you have a reference textbook for these circuits that we can also check and practice? All the best.
@CosineKitty
@CosineKitty Год назад
This video is exactly what I was looking for. I am studying the schematic for a synthesizer module that uses op-amps, capacitors, and resistors in similar feedback loops. When two specific node voltages are plotted against each other (x/y mode), they look like a Lorenz Strange Attractor. I believe the analysis shown here should help me derive the differential equation for the circuit, which in turn should help me simulate it in software efficiently. Thank you so much for a clear and direct explanation of how to approach these problems!
@STEMprof
@STEMprof Год назад
Thanks for watching & sharing your thoughts. Glad to hear that this Analog differential equation solver is helpful.
@STEMprof
@STEMprof 10 месяцев назад
A programmable Op Amp based Differential Equation Solver Analog Computer: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ENq39EesfPw.html I hope this video is helpful as well. Thanks for watching.
@farukkaya4396
@farukkaya4396 Год назад
First of all I want to say this is one of the best ee engineering channel I've seen. Secondly, can you explain the puerpose of the R/3 resistor connected to second op amp. Only explanation I could come up with is that resistor is just for the mathematical equation.I hope you respond. Great content, thanks!
@STEMprof
@STEMprof Год назад
Thank you for watching and for your comment. I am glad to hear that this Engineering Channel is helpful. Regarding your question, in the ideal op amp circuit shown in this example, the R/3 resistor is needed to realize the 3dvo/dt term in the target differential equation. In addition to that, as a side note, in a practical circuit design, op amp device is not ideal, therefore whenever a capacitor is connecting op amp output to it's input terminal, we practically need to have a large enough resistor in parallel with that capacitor to avoid saturation and to practically handle potential DC offset caused by the non-ideal op amp that has non-zero input bias currents.
@farukkaya4396
@farukkaya4396 Год назад
@@STEMprof Thank you for your reply. This make me think how we can multiply the first order derivative term y' with y, like yy'. I hope you reach the big numbers for the channel!
@STEMprof
@STEMprof Год назад
@@farukkaya4396 you are welcome, and thank you for your support and kind wishes.
@STEMprof
@STEMprof 10 месяцев назад
A programmable Op Amp based Analog Computer circuit that solves Differential Equation: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ENq39EesfPw.html , I hope this video is helpful as well. Thanks for watching.
@stevematson4808
@stevematson4808 9 месяцев назад
I tried making this circuit today and I got mixed results. I tried it with a Vi pulse that was over two seconds long. I had my oscilloscope on a real slow scan. Is there a minimum speed that this will work for?
@STEMprof
@STEMprof 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching and sharing your observations and thoughts. Glad that you are interested in this Analog Computer circuit video. Assuming you have selected proper Op Amp (good slew rate, low drift and low noise with proper bandwidth given your desired application) this circuit has a DC gain of 4 (in steady state) and also operates well with sinusoids. For Audio Application, try R=1k , C=1nF. This circuit effectively is a second order lowpass filter with a transfer function of 4*(wn)^2/(S^2 + 2*zeta*wn*S + (wn)^2) where natural frequency wn=0.5/(R*C) = 500k rad/sec and damping factor zeta=3 which means this circuit is overdamped. If you apply one volt DC voltage at input the circuit output voltage should smoothly (in roughly 50-60 micro seconds) reaches 4 volts at the output without peaking. As the second test, I suggest applying a 10 kHz sinusoidal voltage (with say amplitude 1 volt) at input and examine if your constructed circuit is properly working for the sinusoidal case (the 10kHz sinusoid should appear at the output with amplitude of 4). Assuming the DC test and sinusoid test are passed then you can try other waveforms. For more examples please see ru-vid.com/group/PLrwXF7N522y4c7c-8KBjrwd7IyaZfWxyt I hope this explanation is helpful.
@qemmm11
@qemmm11 9 месяцев назад
Much appreciated sir 😊 Easy r=1,vo1=vx (0+vi)/r+(3(0-vo1)/r)+(0-vo)/4r+sc(0-vo1)=0..(1) (0+vo)sc+(0-vo1)/r=0..(2) Sir: I don’t know why the last level op, -vo becomes the previous level vo2? But I know it finally now😊
@STEMprof
@STEMprof 9 месяцев назад
You are welcome. Glad that this op amp Analog Computer video is interesting. For a better example please see ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ENq39EesfPw.html 🙋‍♂️
@qemmm11
@qemmm11 9 месяцев назад
Happy season holiday Sir 😊
@STEMprof
@STEMprof 9 месяцев назад
@@qemmm11 Thank you, happy holidays to you as well. 🙋‍♂️
@stevematson4808
@stevematson4808 9 месяцев назад
What size caps should I use if I am working with a long pulse? About five to ten seconds long?
@STEMprof
@STEMprof 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching and your follow-up questions. Glad that you are interested in this Analog Computer circuit video. Assuming you have selected proper Op Amp (good slew rate, low drift and low noise with proper bandwidth given your desired application) this circuit has a DC gain of 4 (in steady state) and also operates well with sinusoids. For Audio Application, try R=1k , C=1nF. This circuit effectively is a second order lowpass filter with a transfer function of 4*(wn)^2/(S^2 + 2*zeta*wn*S + (wn)^2) where natural frequency wn=0.5/(R*C) = 500k rad/sec and damping factor zeta=3 which means this circuit is overdamped. If you apply one volt DC voltage at input the circuit output voltage should smoothly (in roughly 50-60 micro seconds) reaches 4 volts at the output without peaking. As the second test, I suggest applying a 10 kHz sinusoidal voltage (with say amplitude 1 volt) at input and examine if your constructed circuit is properly working for the sinusoidal case (the 10kHz sinusoid should appear at the output with amplitude of 4). Assuming the DC test and sinusoid test are passed then you can try other waveforms. For more examples please see ru-vid.com/group/PLrwXF7N522y4c7c-8KBjrwd7IyaZfWxyt I hope this explanation is helpful.
@Saidkus
@Saidkus 9 месяцев назад
if it s possible, Could you make a vıdeo on the same type but with initial conditions?
@STEMprof
@STEMprof 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching and your interest. Sure, I'll post circuit with initial condition. In the meantime, here are few more Analog Computer examples: Op Amp Analog Computer Differential Equation Solver: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ENq39EesfPw.html Logarithm Analog Computer with Op Amp ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RpKEq5WyoLg.html Differential Equation Solver Analog Circuit ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R3X5AYNZGEI.html I hope these Circuit engineering and analysis videos are helpful.
@stevematson4808
@stevematson4808 9 месяцев назад
Would this circuit be modeling something like a suspension system?
@STEMprof
@STEMprof 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching and your good question. A more general example is ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ENq39EesfPw.html . Of course, assuming a mechanical or suspension system that matches the order of the designed circuit. For example, please see: Spring-Mass Mechanical System ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I4mqQQ9hSKc.html Double Spring-Mass System Analysis ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lCyJGtUK9zs.html I will post more examples soon about modeling mechanical systems with electrical circuits. I hope these videos are interesting. Thanks again for watching 🙋‍♂️
@wafikiri_
@wafikiri_ Год назад
I see a third feedback in the last opamp, or am I wrong?
@STEMprof
@STEMprof Год назад
Thank you for watching this op amp video and your comment. There are many feedbacks in this circuit. But the main resistive feedback is from output Vout to input via 4R resistor. Aside from that, we have three more resistive feedbacks and two capacitive feedbacks. It is just a matter of how we consider them in a given analysis to solve for characteristic equation and system transfer function.
@wafikiri_
@wafikiri_ Год назад
@@STEMprof Thanks for your explanations. I knew capacitive feedback was there, but also know that's a dynamic feedback and you obviously referred to static, ponting at resistors. Other than that, op amps is not my forte but yours, of course.
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