Analysing the Game That "Killed" Rare 

The game looks really fun never had a chance to play it, I didn't own an Xbox. It probably would have done really well on the PS2 or GameCube. The only real complaint I have about the game from what I've seen so far is I don't like the character designs.

You know, I was thinking of your video when I was watching this one.

Lol you say that as if it's a tough fought achievement, this is literally one of three analysis videos on ghoulies on youtube

Does Dead Rising inspired by this game ?

@@bobmclovinelectricboogaloo Xbox was better than ps back then

I can only imagine what they would do in the racing genre

@@DukeTheRebel they made diddy kong racing

@@DukeTheRebel there's also Bamblejo Kazooblie - Washers and Nails. Which wasn't pure racing. But racing was a major element.

@@josephfox7068 racing rpg game... crazy... one of the best of all time... car.. boat.. plane...

@@7RStudios my favorite Banjo game

For real, i totally imagine Ghoulies being paired up with Luigi's mansion as those two good and short gamecube games everyone would replay when it was time for Hallowen

It's been a concept since the early days of an FPS but it has usually been a more focal point for speedrunners I'd say. The call of duty influence that fucking destroyed the boomer shooter type of game up until it's resurgence was throwing mindless NPCs at you who all do the same thing (hitfire guns) and cinematic moments taking down anything outside of a mindless Jarhead with a rifle, it's what Doom 16 and esp Eternal resurrected in a more refined way. It's why I'm so happy indie games have taken up the mantle and gamers understand more

I think half-life 1 was described like that as well.

@@BebxOfficial I would say Half-Life 1's puzzle and combat are fairly discrete, with their own verbs. "Combat puzzle" refers to when surviving combat itself is a puzzle to be solved through tactically applying the regular combat mechanics.

@@Toripusutashi Vomitoreum, is still my current favorite. ya got any gud suggestions for other fun ones I can buy?

@@Enterim Yeah, I'd say that's how Half-Life (one, not two) is meant to be played. Lots of people find HL1 like, really hard, but if you use tactics and intuition (paying attention to the story and ect), it makes the game much easier. Though ig you can play it disregarding all that, still, playing it with actual awareness and tactics makes it much more interesting and fun.

It didn’t deserve it at all I tried kameo as well but I didn’t like that game at all. I don’t think it did to good either but it wasn’t fun so no surprise. “Only banjo everything else bad rhghehrb”

I know it's a little late to discuss this. But I think the biggest struggle is "Grabbed by the Ghoulies", "Kameo", and "Viva Pinata" were clearly designed with N64 and Gamecube audiences in mind, which struggled a bit on a console with an audience primarily fueled by Halo and similar shooters.

@@tomforge614 viva pinata I feel is one that came at a bad era for it. An era before and it would fit well in the fad of animal care games at the time. An era after and it could fit in with management games that are still going strong. Now it is a bit of a cult classic and if you can get it in a proper state it's honestly not a bad time. Its biggest issue when I played it was optimization and probably a too obtuse goal.

@@floydstephman Oh, it flourishes as a Let's Play title, and I would bet some streamers could make a five year career off of it and its sequel with how popular cozy gaming is these days. Struggles with just low accessibility these days more than anything, like "Legends of Legaia" and "Skies of Arcadia Legends".

I cant believe it is so hated. I played the demo on Project gotham racing 2. I played the gouhlies demo as much as i played pgr2 itself

That’s so lovely to hear! glad you enjoyed the video 🙏

I trully want to believe you, but todaty the dev are really trash, the sea of thieves is a cake fill with bug glitch and wrong mechanics. Hitreg broken from the first day, cheater everywhere and no anticheat, 3 years do fix wrong mechanics.. is a shame.)

Most relevant developers have created games that are “art.” Not exactly a unique achievement.

@@asianbeowulf4276 artists who make art? Who'd have thought.

I was toi young for having a kinect, and now i still want a kinect, it's an incredible piece of hardware, who shouldn't be abandon because so much IS possible with it

What's new Scooby Doo was pretty dull.

@@phoebeaurum7113the theme was sure great though

@@phoebeaurum7113personally it’s my favorite version tbh, though I can understand why others might not care for it.

@@forsociopoliticalstuff2629it was the only one on when I was growing up. (It had been out nearly a decade at that point tho)

I thought this game was bad because of the first time I heard of it was a passing joke reference from zero punctuation. Glad people like it.

Mister Trump grabbed me by the ghoulies

yup it was one of my favourite childhood games back then

I'll never forgive EA for killing Maxis, and Sim City.

@@beauwalker9820 The Maxis brand name is all that's left! ☹️

@@beauwalker9820popcap too, even if ea didn't directly kill it, pvz lost its soul when most of the original devs left. at least we stil garden warfare i guess

RIP Pandemic Studios and BioWare. Y’all made my favorite games growing up, and only their lifeless husks still exist

Maybe because it wasn't a platformer or the move to Microsoft and different console souring fans and poor marketing.

Nintendo nerds is what happened

@allenparedes6132 to me moving to a console marketed towards teens and adults probably wasn't the best move at the time.

Sea of thieves pretty much changed that though. Whether you like it or not. SoT on Steam alone outsold the entire BK series Blame Nintendo for not investing in them. Rare having funding issues towards the end of the N64 led to the perfect dark team collapsing mid way into development because of pay issues between Dolak and the Stamper Brothers.

I agree 100% that Rareware should of never been on Xbox to begin with and you can thank Iwata for that as he was the president of Nintendo at time in September 2002 so he had the ability to purchase Rareware but he didn’t and he almost destroyed Nintendo completely but thankfully we now have a ceo that knows what gamers want.

@@Itshadow306 You you understand that Iwata was Nintendo CEO right untill they start to shape what Switch would be like, like hybrid form factor literally was his idea

that original controller was so punk bro now everythings all clean and simple lol

Kameo is great. First game to give me that classic Rare feel since Conker

Lmaooo I'm having a wLk down memory lane reading these comments

I remember raging at those Jessie and Clyde's haha, or the cursed mummy 😂

FUZION FRENZY FUCK YEA LOL

I played viva pinta when my rare replay disk still worked and it was a blast

I still have my Viva Pinata. That game is a masterpiece and nobody can tell me otherwise

Based Dashie (common)

I've got a podcast mini-series about Free Radical coming up in the new year that goes more into that 👀

How the Reaper, just keeps floating towards you relentlessly, with his hand out

A crossover between the franchise and NecroNancy needs to be made!

Most of the key devs had left by the time of the Microsoft buyout

@@thedapperdolphin1590 That’s not true. It’s a common myth. The only key developers that had left by then were some of the main talent behind goldeneye, by they were gone by the time perfect dark was starting to enter development. Pretty much everyone behind all 3 donkey Kong country games, both banjos, conker, diddy Kong racing, jet force Gemini, blast corps, perfect dark, conker, and dinosaur planet were still at rare all the way until Kinect sports rivals for the Xbox one. I think the main issue that rare had during the Xbox era was actually having to switch hardware after the buyout. They had been learning the GameCubes architecture and experimenting with it since the late 90s, and they had been developing a ton of games for it, including Ghoulies, Kameo, Viva piñata, and other games that never saw the light of day such as donkey Kong racing and an untitled saber man game. I think having to switch to a whole different architecture at the start of the generation really messed them up. Kameo and Viva piñata was delayed all the way until the 360, Ghoulies was already pretty much finished by the time of the buyout, and they still spent an entire year just porting it over. That coupled with the longer development cycles of working with more powerful hardware is a pretty reasonable explanation for their more infrequent output. All of that considered, their Xbox output is actually a lot better than people usually portray it as. Ghoulies is an excellent game, made by all of the same people who made DKC 1 and 2, Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie. Viva Piñata is also an excellent game, helmed by the head designer of the aforementioned games. Kameo is also an amazing game, which is often overlooked, made by the original team behind DKC 3 and DK64. Conker Live and Reloaded is a bit lesser compared to the original, but it’s gorgeous, and really showed the promise of rare technically. It looks like a late 360 game. Even nuts and bolts, hated as it may be, is a stellar game, and in my opinion, a fantastic follow up which is true to the spirit of the originals, if not the gameplay (although it does have a surprising amount of platforming elements. Showdown town is essentially a banjo tooie level). Even Kinect sports is an incredible game. Sure, it lacks a lot of the personality we’ve come to love from rare. But it’s objectively the best Kinect game, and Kinect sports rivals retains all of the charm that we love from rare. The only problem I can see with Rares 360 output is the sheer lack of output. They absolutely didn’t release as many games as would be expected from them. But that’s completely understandable given the circumstances, and with the exception of perfect dark zero, each game holds up to their golden age output. Another problem I think is a huge cause of the backlash, is the lack of sequels to their older ip. But that’s the thing about rare; they never really did that many sequels. With the exception of donkey Kong and banjo tooie (and mickeys speedway USA, but Yknow. We dont talk about that game), every game they did on the n64 was a completely original IP. Even banjo was an original ip. Rare didn’t make sequels, and if they did, they would really only make one and that’s it (dkc 3 was a different team than 1 and 2). The fact that we got banjo 3 is honestly remarkable, and it makes sense that it had a different gameplay style given this track record. So yeah.

@@raxxtv1998 I wouldn't say Rare had a lack of output on the 360. A decade ago, I would've agreed with you, but time has shown how much we took their quantity of output on that console for granted. They released 8 games on the 360 which is pretty impressive. That's almost as many games as they released on the N64! As great as Sea of Thieves is, their 360 output makes their Xbox One and Series X output pathetic in comparison lol. Wish they would release that many games again. Also, I just want to say that Mickey's Speedway USA has a very underrated soundtrack despite the game itself being sort of lacking.

Sounds like you’re the frat boy

Xbox never had fratboy culture??

​@@dianamunoz4296 As an Xbox player i say sort of unlike Playstation This is for everybody and Nintendo fun for the whole family Xbox had always had a "How do you do fellow bros" that it was endearing at the beguining i said

No. Rare has a video that talks about the development and there are even videos to watch in the video game! Zeke was always their intended character, as was his girlfriend.

@@xXLunatikxXlul ah gotcha

I think Sony would have been better owners for Rare as they actually had kid friendly series on both PlayStation and PlayStation 2, I think Sony would have put more money into Rare and we would have gotten Banjo Threeie and more sequels by now.

This why i like Indie devs over Triple "AAAaaaaasss"

That, and the other company was Activision...

Banjo-Kazookie being on NSO is a good start.

If it wasent for them buying Minecraft then they would never put their games on PC and some indie games they published and funded like Cuphead on Switch and PS4 alongside PC.

@@sebastianescalante5618 Microsoft basically bought Activision to rid of the people who were making those harsh working environments

@@LucarioShirona yeah, but back on 2002, Activision was one of the companies wanting to buy Rare...

Imo the only way it could've been better was if it had a real ending

That game was amazing. Was like star fox zelda

Just expectations built from the early Nintendo days

Good point! I didn’t think how similar the beat em up fun of the Lego games were to it

it just wasn't what people were hoping for, if they called it something else I think it would have gotten a fair shake, like viva pinata

Very true if it carried a different name the reception would have been better. A lot of people got it hoping for a platformer and got something very different not bad but different. I'm not a fan of the play style of nuts and bolts it's not for me.

@@keithmichael112 It was a fine banjo game honestly but they needed to release banjo threeie first. Like, it was basic market understanding

Do you have parkinsons because the game had on one of the best control schemes of an early 2000s 3d action mashup even the ps2 had few games at that point with such smooth and intuitive controls ahead its time

@@erueka6 Wow, no. For the record, I played Jet Li's Rise to Honor and that had much smoother controls. But like I said, I'll give Ghoulies another try to confirm that.

@@MoonSpiritChannel it was a joke I know , its just the resurgence of old games i loved that are forgotten yet were trashed or ignored as a youngling getting retrospectives too late to matter is getting annoying

Sea of Thieves still going strong!

I’ve done a Nuts and Bolts vid as well if you’re interested! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cfcvFc8XvL8.htmlsi=8Mnbihf-lcU-YFZe

Yeah it's great!

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Seconded!

Haha, "rare" titles

Dawg who is cowardly to talk abt rare games dumb ash ☠️

@@fizishy very good

@@fizishy Not to mention "Too cowardly" for a game that plays on the spooky factor