I still love how the Asgard, an ancient hyper advanced race, just went "What do we call our new class of warship?" "Why don't we name it after that one dude we met, he seemed cool"
I mean, they were in such stagnation loop that they likely ran out of names thousands of years ago. You get a ship named after you and you get a ship named after you and... And that was a move to convey that the ship was new and unconventional(it was their first purpose build anti-Replicator ship) design.
You mean the dude who saved Thor from an enemy they had been utterly unable to defeat? America names its ships after foreigners who've been heroes to us. Lafayette was mentioned by another reply. Casimir Pulaski had a submarine named after him. Churchill has a current destroyer. Seems quite normal to me.
Remember the first time I saw SG-1 and the Bilisknir dismantling the pyramids. I was like, "Oh, probably not going to see much of them again, to OP. Shame, looked badass." How wrong I was.
The O'Neill really shows that the Asgards can get stuff done if they really have to. They had absolutely no threat and were just stagnate for thousands of years but the moment their civilization was threatened they just kicked into overdrive and found solutions in just 2-3 years. They did the same against the Ori. They barely needed a year to develop a weapon to absolutely wreck the Ori ships.
Kinda reminds you of American military buildup heading into WW2. We went from 8th in the world in arms production to outmatching all other major powers combined in, oh, about 3 years. Too bad for the Asgard that their genetic tinkering with themselves doomed their race regardless.
Almost like most students when the exam hit. And to the Asgard beam weapon i always thought it looked like a better slimmed down version of the Ori beam weapon. Maybe they just scaned the design and went "we can do that too but way better"
As Dr Daniel Jackson states to the prior Yes, you know much, you have powerfull Technologie, that makes your Ori Powerfull, knowing, but not into Gods. Prior Was like: why not. Tauri later came up with Asgard Systems in their ships, wrecking Ori ships. I imagine while watching the Voice of Daniel Jackson in the off:".... but it dont makes the Ori into gods" - thats, nearly a philosophical message here....
@TheCyberloki makes sense, the Asgard's humans are allies who think. The Ori's humans are thralls encouraged not to. You can only refine a tool so much if its being used by a toddler.
One thing to point out. The Asgard ship in the Ori battle was never seen destroyed, or even damaged (it's briefly seen flying away from the battle after being completely unaffected by the Ori weapons that do hit it). And the Asgard got information about the Ori shields somehow, to be able to shortly thereafter develop a weapon that could destroy them. There is no wreckage seen either, so my theory is that ship escaped with scans of the Ori ships, after seeing that its current weapons were useless against them. Even though it might've been able to help in the aftermath of the battle if it had stayed, the Asgard probably felt that it was better to put all their focus into developing a weapon that could take those ships out. And plus, if they had stayed it's possible the ship could have been destroyed and the important sensor data lost.
Agreed. The Asgard ship got as mich data as they could on the Ori weapon and then retired from the battle so they could make their own copy. I conject that's what the Asgard plasma beam weapon is-- fighting fire with fire.
@@BogeyTheBear The reason I speculate they did that rather than stay and try to help in the battle is their weapons were ineffective, so they reasoned there wasn't much they could do.
They, do Not even die, to Show principles like loyality a asgard would rate higher than the possibility of death, especially if death is a temporary issue that can and will be fixed. If they tetrested from battle, they did after the battle Was lost, after they did all they could do and yes, its the asgard Systems that gave the 304s of later time a stand, so yes, they, rrtreatedcmost likely with a ans and Data that ensbled them developping better shields and plasma beams... And give those to the 5th Race. Without their genetic issues they could not fix, the asgard would have denied the Ori access to those gslsxies on their own. But still they had the knowledge to develop the stuff the Tauri needed. So they did. @@StormsparkPegasus
I like to think they were also like "SG-1 is still there. Ah we can leave them, they'll figure something out to survive they always do." And they were right.
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat It depends what you like about SG1 and Atlantis. Universe didn't do much for me, but my uncle (a fan of virtually all the major and cult classic sci-fi franchises) really liked it.
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeatThat's very much personal preference, really. Personally, I didn't like Universe at all. Argued about that over and over again with my best buddy who actually enjoyed it.
Actually, that gives me an interesting thought. Wouldn't the Goa'uld suppress knowledge of the Asgard so the Jaffa wouldn't think there was something more powerful than their gods? I mean, other than telling them "Don't go to any of these specific planets."
The Jaffa had a lot of things they kept among themselves, secret from the Goa'uld. A ridiculously powerful enemy of their gods/enslavers? You keep passing that down through the generations.
The Asgard are the American Midwest drivers of the universe. "Oh yah, just gonna head out from the Milky Way to the Anvil Galaxy tomorrow. See ya in church this weekend, hey?"
Stargate definitely has the fastest commonly used FTL out of any scifi I can remember. Second place being Andromeda which needed like a month to reach another galaxy.
@@darwinxavier3516fastest flight record goes to Tom Paris, he achieved Warp10 infinite speed, those side effects Was not so good but could be treated, so where ist surely a way to block them at all. But commonly used, well you may be right, the 304 is a record holder. These ships if they combine all the Systems from tauri, Goal'ud, asgard sources and third Parties the right way, could easily be called a superweapon.
Spacedock has introduced me to a fleet of ships I don’t think would have ever had the opportunity to learn about. It’s like a multivitamin for sci-fi lore. It keeps me informed, updated, and entertained!
Also, @spacedock I am loving the soundtrack for this episode, please keep the orchestral arrangements coming (I’m a professional musician and my enjoyment of any media is directly proportional to the quality of the music
Probably the first sci-fi show to get its hooks in me, it was always on when I got home from school. Lot of homework got eaten by the dog because of that show. Good times.
I imagine the literally uneducated peasants of the Ori didn't actually do much to construct those ships. Probably a lot of Ori tech and powers disguised as holy magic did the actual work. While the bumpkin zealots just put a few panels in place to make them feel like they're helping.
Most of the engineering is on Ori Priests which have Ori infused powers and knowledge.... It seems to be built modularly ( parts forged elsewhere transported on scaffolds and assembled by Priests and then Activated energetically - a different singular ZPM drive tech powers them which appears in one episode... In a big drive room Ori activated and controlled perhaps in contrast to Ancient crystalline form...) The unknown role is the plasma lighted sphere in the ship center... 🤔💭
i always figured that was a major factor in why the Asgard left their technology to us: we had gone from single planet civilization to establishing our first intergalactic colony in the time we had met them.
I always wondered if the Asgard could have fought a war blow for blow against the Ori. My headcanon is that the O'Neil class was a fair match for an Ori battleship one to one. Of course, I can't prove it. But man, did I love the Asgard.
I really think the O'Neill would have been superior to an Ori ship. The Odyssey wiped out an Ori ship almost immediately on entering combat, and another even while outnumbered. And despite access to Asgard tech, the ship is still built of human materials and has mostly human infrastructure. A ship like O'Neill, built from the ground up using only Asgard tech and far superior materials, would fare even better. Oh, and don't forget. There was a Colonel O'Neil with one L, but he had no sense of humor.
@@reliantncc1864 didn't the Odyssey have a ZPM at that point so it's shields and weapons were more powerful, an O'Neill class was destroyed by an Ori battleship so it wasn't strong enough to go 1:1 with an Ori ship, it would be destroyed. However it put up more of a fight than any other ship at that point.
@@TheOmegaXicor given the Ori were new threat and Alliance had little to no data, its a miracle it didnt end even worse. after that, asgards developed plasma weapons whichwere more than enough to take out Ori ships. so yes and no: they could go 1 on 1 and win, with later tech, but as it was in that battle, no they werent been able to unless they wanted to die.
The simple answer is no The Ori would have lost against the Asgard Both the Ori and Asgard had matter conversion technology but the Ori use of technology was limited in the Milky way as it took considerable time on their part to build ships hence why relied on the Supergate to bring ships in whereas the Asgard could build ships very quickly Secondly , the Ori relied on ground assaults I dont see a ground assault going well for them While the replicators could make themselves immune to Asgard beaming tech I see the Ori troops came through the gate or land on the ground and get beamed to parts unknown that quickly As far the Priors go Their bag of tricks wouldnt last long
@@verdebusterAP You make good points. Another thing I'd mention is that every Asgard is fully knowledgeable and proficient with their tech, whereas for the Ori rank-and-file, most of them are using tech they don't understand on the orders of a few priests that commune with their "gods." Those medieval-level peasants probably aren't much good beyond "point the stick at the enemy and push this button."
Nice. Another ship from the Stargate franchise. I happen to be building a model of the Daedalus and recording it in stop motion. At some point soon I'll upload the 30+ minute video once I've completed it.
Really wish we had seen more from these ships, and especially how they fared against the Ori. It''s implied that there were some skirmishes between the Asgard and Ori, and I could see a group of O'Neills bringing down an Ori warship.
Just casually reminded that Stargate canonically took place in the early 2000s and not like 200 years from present day, the USAF apparently had 90% of the US budget and managed to secretly build starships and save the earth numerous times with cover-ups doing all the work
a question that has always plagued me is, exactly how did the Asgard mine and refine the elements needed for their ships and other technology? And I know they probably used sensors and beaming in some manor but we never saw how, and was that information in the Asgard database that they gave Earth during the final episode?
We know for a fact that "beaming" is a part of their construction. That's how the Anti-Replicator Gun got built. Took all of a few seconds and some light beams. I figure the construction materials are probably so exotic that it only makes sense to put them together through a beaming process.
A pity that Asgard were killed off for plot convenience so we never had seen standoff between this and fully powered Aurora... and because Asurans were killed off too. We need Asgard for plot, we don't need Asgard for plot, we need Asgard for plot again, but since they're dead, they're now Vanir (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ I wished hybrids and Asurans would become major factions at standoff with each other and Atlantis would serve as Babylon 5/Deep Space 9 for their Cold War.
I wonder if any O'Neill class had any more direct encounters with the Ori? Like if the Ori were attacking one of the Asgard's protected planets? I bet a couple of them could give an Ori ship trouble. Maybe an encounter off screen helped in the Asgard's creation of the plasma beam weapon?
I loved the scene when Carter told O'Neill about the ship. Carter: "The Asgard had a new ship." O'Neill: "Oh?" Carter: "They named it the 'O'Neill' class ship." "O'Neill: "Oh!" :) Carter: "We blew it up." "O'Neill: "Oh." :(
Stargate Hyperdrives are already among the absolute fastest in fiction, but these Asgard ships are just stupid fast. Like their ships can do what would have taken the USS Voyager from Trek 70 years in less than 5 minutes.
And then there are the Borg who can deploy pretty much anywhere in the galaxy almost instantaneously. The Federation just isn't advanced enough yet. Also it might have something to do with the fact that those are two completely different universes.
Ok I didn't realize how fast they were but that gives me hope for rescuing the cast of the last stargate series heading out into the void between galaxies 😊
One of the sexiest designs ever. Another design where all the fire power was forward facing. Probably biased because of Star Trek/Star Wars ships where there was 360 degree coverage from weapons. Can you imagine a redesign with a combination of Ion guns and the Plasma beam weapons they developed, especially with added turrets to increase firing arcs. You would think they also could have developed some sort of missile/torpedo that were vastly more destructive than the nukes on the Earth ships.
In the SG1 universe I loved the Asgard, those little naked gray guys who looked so fragile but surely were able to give the Goa'Uld a total run for their money. They were the protectors, kind-of the Vulcans of that series. Near countless the attempts of Jack O'Neill to invite Thor for a fishing trip at the lake. Awesome the exchange between Thor and senator McKinsey: Kinsey, raises his finger: "Commander" Thor interrupts him, replies with that finger raise "Supreme commander!" Later in that episode, Thor to Kinsey: "Jack O'Neil suggested that I should transfer you to a world from which you can't return home for what you have done but I'm certain he was just joking." There can be only one true Thor! I loved the Norse theme of that race. Not to forget Hermiod, the Asgard serving on the BC 304 Odyssey, the Asgardian McKay who sewared a lot in his Asgardian language when those humans didn't do things as he wanted them to do their things.
The thing that never made sense about the Asgard was their lack of ancient knowledge They had access to Lantean tech but couldnt decipher it ? It was show that a person could have limited but conscious access to the knowledge for a brief and that brief time, Oneill solved their problem with the replicators that quickly
When your most advanced state of the art spaceship is named after the guy who makes stupid jokes and tells your mother insults to your representetives AND tells you that if you need someone dumber then you, that this is the right place. I love stargate lore.
I still think the Asgard out classed the ancients in most areas. Faster ships, better power generation and weapons just as if not better then ancients.
No wonder why replis wanted their tech and rest of galaxy (galaxies) steer clear from them. imagine if asgards solved their genetic decay and keep evolving technology. they'd sooner or later catch and surpass even Ori and given time they'd come damn close to lanteans .just LOVe that ship. one of my fav (next to original Rodger young from starship troopers, klingon Bird of prey, and few others) too
I've watched the Ori battle several times but after the first attack run we never see the Asgard ship again. They make a point showing the destruction of all the other ships but not the Asgard. Did it just leave? Also it's beam weapons cut through Ori ships, look what happens after they are added to Odyssey.
Could have escaped the battle. Someone here mentioned that it had scan data of the battle which enabled the Asgard to make the beam weapons (could be head canon, bit I'd like to think that's the case) Guess by the time of the Super Gate battle, the O'Neill still wasn't strong enough to punch through Ori shields.
0:48 Excuse me, how did you just pronounce "Bilskirnir-class"?? 1:29 The who?? "Lante-ans"? You even pronounced them correctly in your "Stargate: Aurora Class Lantean Battleship" video.
what i never understood, is why the tauri never made an effort to make one of these. like the wraith would stand no chance against one of those ships. and they had all the knowledge to make one.
Do you think you could cover literally anything from Animorphs? It's mainly a novel series, but it did get a TV show at one point. It's actually a pretty cool series, though it doesn't get nearly as much attention as the bigger Sci-Fi franchises like Star Wars, Star Trek, Aliens, and the like.
The O'Neil class in that fight is tiny compared to the size it should have been. Daedalus class length - 225m O'Neil class length - 1500m Ori Mothership length - 1100m - 2000m. They nerfed the Asgaurd for the plot.
its still a shame the asgard did not hand over all their ships to the tauri in the end. just imagine what havoc they could deal against the wraiths or anyone for that matter.
