lol true...the Cherokee werent even a large tribe to start with so how did all these people come from from this small tribe. Ancestry DNA showed me as 33% Native American(Mexica). My great grandmother on my moms side was full blood raramuri or muki ( female.) They are still around. Sadly probably one of the last generations of full blood Raramuri.
My father’s grandmother was supposedly “Native American”, and looking at the one picture of her we have, we definitely believed that to be true. Turns out, according to our DNA, she was partially black. I see where the confusion exists. But my mom’s DNA actually had Native American in it, and yet we thought she had none. So you never really know, lol.
The white side of my family always thought one of their people was native, when i got ancestry I found out it was a Portuguese woman with high cheek bones💀I think a lot of the white people got confused like this
Yo J.J how's it going..so look..u do understand that they call that Asian race of people that crossed the Barron str8 and migrated to North America , American Indians correct, but they fail to mention that the copper colored races were already here before that migration...2nd if u look at all the pics created after the European Renaissance, all AI become Spanish looking or Spanish Asian mixed...find pics before that era and there u will find the truth.. even literature written describes the people of this land just like the bible describes Jesus and the descriptions definitely doesn't match that of European educating that we've all been taught!!
When I got my DNA results back from you guys I was crushed because I was always very proud of my Nipmuc heritage and there was none of it on the results. I felt like a part of my identity had been ripped away. Now I know that's not necessarily true. Thank you so much for this video.
dna tests like this arent an exact science. Also, Natives came over here from the other side. Most importantly, you are compared to others who have taken the test. As more natives take the test the more accurate it will become.
My mother’s lineage has always been passed down by verbal history. Names, and specific locations. My ancestry didn’t mention any native (it was a different company), yet most of my relatives on my mother’s side are still in this specific area... and my great grandmother, grandmother, maternal aunt, mother, and myself are all dark. These tests aren’t getting it all right.
Most white Americans just do not have any Native American ancestry. The vast majority of families have not been here long enough for the ancestor to be so far back as to be undetectable. Second, it's unlikely that it would be a male ancestor, because it was most often white men and Native women, as it was considered a fate worse than death for a white woman to be with a Native man back in the day. In the South and East Coast, these blood myths exist to cover up the fact that the ancestor was actually black.
It's even worse with African Americans they almost all say they have Native ancestry but it's actually European. I always get a good laugh from white and black Americans when they tell me(a real native) that they are as well and when asked what tribe 9 times out of 10 they say Cherokee lol
Except that most of the people who are not registered members of a tribe but do have some native American blood are primarily African Americans. This is because in many states, surviving indigenous populations not part of the reservation system were often partially integrated with African American populations. Intermarriage was common. But Caucasian populations did not commonly intermarry with either until the late twentieth century.
I was quite surprised that the OP was actually leaving the possibility that some whites have native that fell below the sample resolution...her own chart shows that at 7 generations back percentage is 1.5% to get down to zero one needs to be at 9 generations. The number of Europeans who have ancestry in the America's that goes back that far are a small population of New Englanders. So if you are European and you claim native ancestry but you know your ancestors don't go back 9 generations or come from New England than they can't have been native at all. "In the South and East Coast, these blood myths exist to cover up the fact that the ancestor was actually black." This is actually quite confirmed by a recent study by 23 and Me where they revealed that the majority of those who self report as European (white) have MORE African admixture than Native admixture. (Kind of ironic and confirms your conclusion.) African Americans mean while have more European admixture than Native (expected). But African Americans on average tend to have MORE Native than European Americans have Native. The paper is fascinating and based on thousands of 23 and Me users...it's a big one with a solid methodology: drive.google.com/file/d/0B9N6z_bRVUMmZGRhZVlhMjJDQzg/view?usp=sharing
Barrio Azteca well i am part Cherokee i spoke with my father his father and his mother. they were Cherokee indians and my family is from ga where that tribe reside. native americans did mate with African slaves at the time not all native indians had slaves but they did mate with some so yea some black folks lie bit at least it's more possible than these white folks ... ironic how they stole my ppl land and now wanna be part native Indian
Thank you so much for explaining this situation with Native American DNA. A funny and perplexing situation I have run across in researching my husbands's DNA and genealogy is this: My first husband, whom I married in 1967, in NY, was obviously Caucasian (white skin, redish hair, blue eyes). He has three children by a previous marriage. Two of his children were fair, but the third had much darker coloring, black hair, and brown eyes. My husband had a picture of his Greatgrandmother which had been passed down through his family which showed an American Indian woman, which explained the different coloring that showed up in his son. Husband died in 1994. I didn't even date for 23 years, during which time I moved to SC.. In 2017 I found myself drawn to another man. He was an African-American who also claimed that his Grandmother was Native American. He was lighter skin than his other relatives and had even been given the nick name "Red" in his college years. He also had a photo of his Grandmother.....THE EXACT SAME PHOTO THAT HUSBAND #1 HAD!!!
WOW, THAT'S SURPRISELY RARE THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN AGAIN. THEY WERE RELATIVES AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW AT ALL. I'M ADOPTED AND I DID THIS TEST TO FIND OUT ABOUT MY HISTORY ON BOTH SIDES OF MY FAMILY. MOTHER AND FATHER'S SIDE. I'M EXCITED TO FIND OUT. I ALSO GOT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HEALTH TRAITS.
As a black American, we were also told that our great great grandmother was full blooded Native American. My sister did the dna test and she came back with 3% Native American ancestry. I don’t think there’s anything with acknowledging it or being proud of it because, it’s a part of us. However, we are even more excited about our majority african ancestry that we’ve always identified with.
If your sister was 3% and the test did not evaluate the 23rd chrome your sister could really be 8%. That would make your mother 16 to 20%. Your grandmother 32 to 40% and your great grandmother 70 to 90% Native American which is considered full blood. So your parents and grandparent was not lying when they said a great grandparent was of Native American heritage.
A few months ago I wrote to a lady here on YT about the misunderstandings that can happen when discussing family lore. I specifically used an example in my own family where we thought that we were Dutch. Turns out that we are Pennsylvania Dutch - IE: German. Well, I just got my own DNA test back yesterday and found another funny. My great grandmother was told to be Irish-Indian. Turns out that she was Indian. Just not 'Native American' Indian. Yeah. Her ancestry was from India. (A little bit of research into the East India Trading Company and how many Indian brides were actually brought back to England, and it makes sense.) We've got to realize that we're playing a giant game of 'telephone' that spans hundreds of years. Throw in speculation, unregistered adoptions, the occasional cuckold or rape and nobody really knows who their ancestors were.
think of the dna from each of your grands like a window with four panes in it. Each grand gives you one of their four panes which is 25% of their old window, and is 25% of your new window. These 4 panes, each from a different window, now make your own unique window. You do not get the 3 leftover panes of a grand's window, you only get one pane of it. The rest of their window might go to some other relative or to noone, including you.
+Samuel Poe it doesnt work like that. you get half of random dna from your parents each and it recombines together in yours. so the distribution can be random in mixed people
I recently took an ancestry DNA test that revealed I am 19% native american. My dad always told me my grandfather was Yaqui from Mexico. If I am not a full 25% native american is it still possible that my grandfather was 100% native american? Thanks for the video.
I actually used Ancestry DNA to check mine. My Grandfather told me his mother was full blooded Cherokee. No one ever talked about it, which was normal in those days. Names were changed. The only reason he told me was because I was talking about native blood on my mother's side. He was my paternal grandfather. It seemed to me that I should have have more than showed up and needless to say I was a bit stunned that I only had two blood lines which was European and only 8% Indigenous American. I'm sure there's more but this video does explain a lot.
It is possible your grandfather's mother was half Native, not full blooded, but least you have some Native ancestry unlike a lot of others who make the claim.
I took the Ancestry test and my results were 94% European and 6% Indigenous American. I was not expecting to have any Indigenous American and would never claim to be Native.
@@toddmaek5436, DNA tests cannot determine Native American ancestors because they don't give their DNA to public databases. No tribe accepts DNA, it's by documentation only. Very rarely do they use DNA and it's only to determine parentage.
I’m half Mexican and when I took the ancestry dna test it said I was 17% Native American with a lot of French and spanish ancestry which makes sense I wasn’t surprised at all
Lol. The people working at 23andMe and Ancestry are just way too nice to say what's really going on: the overwhelming majority of people who claim to have distant Native American ancestry actually, genetically, do not have any indigenous DNA in their genome, and that is often due to "$5 Indians" and/or the novelty of claiming your great-great-great grandmother was BFFs with Pocahontas. This is also true for those in my state of Oklahoma who claim to be 1/164th Tribe X. It's so wild to me that super, translucent white people will call themselves Native despite not being connected to tribal customs apart from that little card and despite being paper white with blonde hair and baby blue eyes. LOL. As the child of a Mexican-American man and a very white caucasian woman, almost 30% of my DNA is of Native American; and pretty much all my NA-DNA is traced to Mexico (likely descendents of the Aztec, Maya, or other indigenous Mexicans). Lol. But, like all gueritos, my mother SWEARS her great grandmother was full or at least half Chickasaw. No, sis. I don't think so. 😂 I don't have patience for any more baby powder-complected people thinking being 1/472nd Native American makes them a person of color or changes the fact that their genome is 98+% European.
Blake Gill Puente I really like what you had to say and I concur a lot of people like to forget that the copper color Aboriginal of this land that were more so my complexion we're not allowed to claim their tribal rights they were only allowed to sign black which has no constitutional value and means nothing in law and traces back to know Nation/ nationality at all... so that left my other lighter tone Aboriginal people to only mate with themselves and the Europeans who are forcing their way into the tribes and force marrying and raping their way into the tribes as a way to legitimize the fraud they committed by signing the Dawes rolls in the first place.... which is why there are almost no dark-complected aborigine then/now... great-grandmother n grand mother are full blood in Muskogee my father father what's Blackfoot and Muskogee due to the Trail of Tears a lot of tribes started breeding with one another yet on the birth certificate there listed as negro and on mine I'm listed as black again no nationality whatsoever... it is sad to have your heritage stolen and then to see people like her claim it... 😢
Ikr it’s completely absurd. I knew a white girl who looked like Barbie. Super straight golden blonde hair, baby blue eyes and pale skin that burned red. She claimed her grandmother was full blood native... I don’t understand why they do this. Guess they think it makes them more interesting.
You cannot go by the color of skin. Look at me. I'm very white and redheaded. My grandmother was Cherokee. ( my mothers mother) I got none of the resemblance. My cousins and other family members do. P.s I do not identify as indian although it matter of factly shines through per my DNA.
Omg yesss I just wrote a response on this same thing then I just saw yours!!! Exactly 😂 $5 dollar Indian. Dawes act. Choctaw DNA in me . I will be taking my test soon
Interesting on how we receive our own unique DNA mix. There is a possibility that one sibling may have Native American DNA and the other sibling in the same family may not.
My family story includes Native American ancestry. Our grandfather’s grandfather was supposedly half Native American and a law officer on a reservation in Oklahoma, the son of another law officer and a Native American woman. That is what our family story says. Historical records do link his family back and his unique name is that of a sheriff in Oklahoma territory. We cannot find his name on any records older than those. None of my generation has Native American showing up in our DNA, I wish we had been able to test my grandfather. Thank you for this information! Very helpful
Hi there, thanks for stopping by. We know researching Native American ancestors can be tricky, we have an article on our support site with some research tips that may be of some help. support.ancestry.com/s/article/Researching-Native-American-Ancestors?language=en_US. Best of luck with your research!
My grandmother is 3/4 Native American and was born on an Indian reservation in New Mexico. She has a reservation number instead of a birth certificate. My grandfather on that same side is also 1/2 Native American and 1/2 German. We have genealogy going back generations and my 23andMe showed nothing. They said it was because there aren’t enough people with that dna getting the test done.
No one was adopted. I’ve seen the reservation number, and I’ve talked to organizations within the Native American community. The family tree is accurate. My grandfather on my father’s side was adopted but already knew that.
I’ve been told my whole life that “we’re spainish” growing up. Strangers would assume I was a Native American because of my long straight jet black hair and my large nose. I took a DNA test and it states that I’m 48% . I would just like to know more of my ancestors
Thank you so much for explaining this!! My Step-sisters mother was born on the Winnebago Reservation in Northeastern Nebraska, and she was always told tales that her Grandparents performed as stunt riders in Wild West Shows. After having Melanie's DNA processed, she shows no Native American, ZILCH! However people that she matches with on Ancestry do have Native American ancestry. Explaining how "The Cards are Shuffled" made a lot of sense! Time to get her brother tested!
My dad took one of these tests many years ago and it was obvious it was not accurate. I'm a quadruplet and even with us quads it shows some differences. I grew up multi-cultural, including an enrolled member. I have at least one ancestor from 4/5 Civilized Tribes, mostly Choctaw and Chickasaw. I know my lineage to the Creek and Cherokee (Ridge for the Cherokee). We grew up with intelligent and degreed people in the family who spoke many languages by way of their heritage as well as being learned through polyglotism. I grew up speaking Choctaw, Chickasaw (and 2 dead Indigenous languages) but only know some words in Cherokee and Creek. We were taught many European languages including French, Italian, Spanish, German, English, Romanian and more. Even though my nephews, nieces, great nephews and nieces are of less "Indian" blood, they are enrolled as citizens and being brought up as "Indian". They are speaking Choctaw fluently and Chickasaw pretty well. They are also brought up speaking Spanish, English, and some Italian and French. DNA tests don't show these things I'm talking about. We also have the 4 roots teeth and much more to our ancestry.
Teeth have roots. It is taught that molars have two or three roots. But we have four roots because of the Indigenous American ancestry. Look up something like how many roots do teeth have?@@patriciajrs46
Through ancestry, I found out that I am 4% Native American. I never really believed any of the stories that my family told to me while growing up. Now that I found out that I do have Native American ancestors, I could really care less. Also, as stated in the video, just because you have similar physical features, doesn’t mean you have recent Native American ancestry. Most of my family has caramel colored skin, sharp facial features, dark straight hair and can potentially pass as Natives, but we are just a thorough mix of African black and white Europeans. Also, I have talked to a few actual Natives in the past about people claiming tribal ancestry, many really don’t seem to like it.
Tantibus Draws actually that's partially true the rest of the truth is the Aboriginal people that you call Native Americans that look like me there were darker Coppertone would not allowed to register on the Dawes rolls and claim their proper ancestry... we were only allowed to check black therefore when I will try this get made even one another they came out looking a particular Geno typical way because the dark members of the tribes were not allowed to claim their ancestry
My brother tested with Ancestry and did not show any Native American Ancestry. One thing you did not mention (which I believe is because Ancestry does not offer Y-DNA testing) is Y-DNA testing. My brother tested his Y-DNA at FTDNA (Family Tree DNA) and his Y-Haplotype is Q-M3, a male Native American Haplogroup. We had no idea that we had Native American ancestry in our ancestral surnamed line until we got the Y-DNA results.
Judy Dover wow coooool congratulations on being 1% Native American enjoy bragging about that and pissing people and if you don't say how Native American you are you still are going piss people off by claiming your Native American while you look white ass fuck
My grandmother told me that my great grandpa ( her dad) was Cherokee and Sioux, but her birth certificate said he was "Caucasian" . I asked my Native American art history professor about this as she was Navajo and said she wouldn't mind if anyone needed help proving Native American ancestry. The professor said that since my grandma was born in 1931 in the South that interracial marriage was illegal, so my great grandmother had possibly lied on the birth certificate as both her and my great grandfather would have been arrested because of the Jim Crow laws of the time.
Census durant roll of 1906 lists my great grandmother as wht. It was a roll for native americans only and all others had an "I" next to their names. They wrote white because she said she was white. Some didn't want that "shameful" association and just wanted to assimilate. Yet her granddaughter, my mother, was shipped off to an Indian school every year eighty miles from her home.
If anyone knows or thinks they have blood of a certain Tribe and want to enroll into that tribe, you can contact that Tribe, the regional BIA offices or departments that track the dawes rolls to find Native family or ancestors, they have extensive records of Native families going back nearly 200 years. Keep in mind that you will also need your non-native family records too because Tribes need most of your family tree to determine blood quantum, if you can't provide a detailed family tree of your non-native side, these Tribes will consider your records incomplete. Most Tribes require 1/4 blood quantum, some have a more strict blood quantum limits. Some Tribes have a very generous qualifications to be a citizen such as the Five Civilized Tribes (Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek & Seminole) that only requires at least one or a few family members on your family tree to be on the Dawes Rolls.
Ancestry DNA says I'm 1% Native American. It says I'm 98% European and 83% is Great Britain. That's my heritage and that's my culture - not the measly 1% NA. I think its ridiculous to try to claim these tiny fragments as something important to your makeup. When I walk down the street people see a blue eyed, fair haired white guy. My surname is English. That's what I am and I'm perfectly happy with that. Oh, and I do have a sister who thinks she's a Cherokee princess or something with all the Native American art and knick knacks all over her house. Whatever.
This makes sense.I had always heard that we had Native American heritage but didn't know for sure.I decided to start looking into our family tree to see if i could find anything that would lead to this Native American tale.I subscribed to Ancestry and found that it was true.I found my Grt Grandparents on the Indian Dawes Rolls(they lived in Oklahoma) and the application applying for free land in Oklahoma also on a 1900 oklahoma indian territory cencus listing them as Chickasaw.The Rolls listed her as 1/32 Chickasaw and my Grandfather as Chickasaw by marriage.Going up my tree i found where the Native American came from.MY Grt Grandmother's ( on dawes rolls) 3rd grt Grandmother was full blooded Chickasaw her name was Ishtanaha from Miss,she married a Irish man. My sister had a DNA test done through Ancestry and this is the results..(remember the full blood chickasaw is six generations up the tree and this line never married back into the Native American. Native American-1% Europe -98% Great Britain-56% Ireland-17% Scandinavia-10% Europe West-9% Iberian Peninsul-2% Finland/Northwest Russia-2% Europe East-1%.I think i left some % of something out but this is a good example of what this video is saying.We have since then proved our chickasaw heritage and become Chickasaw tribal members.Thanks Ancestry for helping me prove my native american heritage,without you it would have been alot harder.Names were provided,cousins were found and pictures exchanged.I even found my Native American ancestors that were removed from Miss to Oklahoma.Thanks again Ancestry!!!!
FYI, if you're researching French Canadian North American First Nations backgrounds, the Canadian archives are good about identifying some people in the historical family tree records as Metis, which at least offers a non-genetic clue. As this video shows, a NA ancestor 6 generations back will only show up as 1.5% NA for the subject (person being tested). For French Canadian history, FN connections may go back 10-15 generations and will not show up in DNA tests.
I am Asian. It's amazing how many white people I know claim to have Native American ancestry even though you cannot see a trace on them or their family members. I mean, everyone in their family are pale-skinned, blue eyes, blonde hair. Even facial features, not a single feature that would give away as Native American.
+Laarni Shaner I think back in the day claiming/telling a child they had native American ancestry was a convenient way of disguising they had a black (for white people) or white (for black people) ancestor. Black women's bodies were not their own. They could not legally be raped and had no recourse against unwanted sexual advances. It's easier to tell a child/grandchild there's a Cherokee grandmother than grandma or great grandma was raped by her owner or random white man. And there's many a white family hiding a black great, great, great grandparent for social reasons in a racist society.
i m asian too lol my parents are from lebanon but i don't look arab or asian i look european whereas my familly is av ery old lebanese one and my dna proves it too
So in my family everybody thought my great great grandmother on my moms side was Native American she had straight long black hair and olive skin, turns out she’s actually Portuguese! And we found this out because one of our family members found some old letters that she wrote a long long time ago and she talked about being Portuguese and how she was very proud to be a Portuguese woman we were completely blown away. Not to mention this totally explains why I had 7% Iberian peninsula in my ancestry results.
*In Angola, West-Southern Africa, we have plenty of Native American cases of Native American DNA Ancestry (Genetic Marks) since 1530….,,(since XVI century, from North, Central and South Américas….!!!*
Hi there, thanks for stopping by. Unfortunately, current genetic ethnicity research is unable to distinguish Indigenous American tribal affiliation based on the research and technology currently available. Indigenous American tribes are very similar genetically and while there have been a number of advances in genetic ethnicity research in the last several years, research has not developed to a point where tribal affiliation can be credibly determined. However, we are continuing our research and plan to continue updating our genetic ethnicities as the science evolves.
I showed no Native American in any standard autosomal test,and we sure had a persistent "Cherokee" story , which most of us dismissed as family folklore.After uploading our DNA for more deep Ancestry testing,we found it.Then Ancestry DNA truthlines helped us find our distant Native ancestor! :) Don't give up,and thank you Ancestry!
Same. I kept getting West Asian at around 4% 1.8% Spanish and less than 1% Native American and West African. I have relatives in CNO and the Qualla Band of the Cherokee Nation. I found my mixed blood ancestor who was born at the Moravian Mission in Spring Place. She married a white man and was allowed to stay. Her grandmother was full blood. Her Father was Edward Adair.
I'm half English half American, born and raised in England. I grew up being told that my mum has Native American ancestry, even specifying that it was Blackfeet. Whilst she could never specify how far back our Native American ancestor was, I never doubted the family story simply because she, and especially my grandma, looked Native American. When I was a child I didn't even know what Native American features were (being an English kid) but I knew my mum's side of the family didn't look white. I look as white as can be, but when my brother was born he had even darker skin than my mum. As a young adult now with plenty of access to the internet, my conviction that there was Native ancestry was strengthened when I saw what mixed Native people look like. I'd never seen so many people that looked like my mum and brother before. Added with the fact that my mum had been presumed Native by people she'd met, I assumed that my belief was valid. Because I was curious about my ancestry in general, I did an Ancestry test a few years back and there was 0% Native. I wasn't too surprised, because I haven't inherited any traits that would indicate ancestry anything other than European. But then my mum did an ancestry test and what she'd get? 0% Native. Not only that, but she got 100% Northern European. Though, in Ancestry's most recent update, both our results changed. My mum had 2% Southern Italian and myself has 1%. This is the best explanation for my mum's and brother's appearance, and this video has made me believe it more so when it was said that Mediterranean appearances often can get mixed up with Native American. Funnily enough, my mum and my grandma still look more Native than Southern Italian, but race is just a collection of features and ultimately anyone can end up looking like another race with the right mix. (I can definitely see the Southern Italian in my brother now though.) I'm still curious about where the Blackfeet rumour came from, but it could be as simple as one generation assuming they have Native Ancestry because of their appearance and guessing at any old tribe closest to their area and passing it off as fact. Anyway, I just find it fascinating how often this apparently happens. I didn't even search for this video, it was in my reccomedations, and I'm glad to know it isn't just my family that have been claiming heritage unfounded 😅 😂
Chante Bacon most native americans ,real ones, roll their eyes at people like her claiming native american.. in actuality the myth of being native american actually meant black african american this myth came about to cover up the fact that they are actually african american descent.
Very informative and helpful info. I must also add that DNA ancestry results that do show significant Native American ancestry percentages do not necessary mean that a person is descended from a US American Indian nation. A possibly exists that the person could be descended from a Canadian First Nations aborigine or a latino/hispanic ancestor who was of predominately Indigenous American heritage from Mexico or elsewhere in Latin America. For example, I am half African American and half Venezuelan and my DNA results showed 16% Native American ancestry. I know for certain that I inherited none of it from my African American side. One must do independent family genealogy research in conjunction with DNA ancestry in order to fully verify true American Indian heritage since AncestryDNA currently cannot distinguish between Native Americans in the US and indigenous people in Latin American countries as well as Canadian First Nations.
What about the Sami people of northern Finland, Norway and Sweden? Would they have the Native American Ancestry DNA. I think they are somewhat related. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_history
True. My sister in law is Peruvian, her grandmother was full-blooded Quechuan and didn't speak Spanish. Her mother spoke both languages. My sister in law's ancestry results show something like 60% Native American! So the 'native' really applies to the Americas of the western hemisphere.
My siblings and I were always told our paternal grandmother was 100% Muskogee ,and she looked the part. I got my dna results last week. We're IRISH !!! Straight out of Belfast!!😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
James E. Ogilvy Barbra Bush is a $5 Indian and if you believe her you might be a $5 Indian also get an unabridged dictionary or go read the thief Columbus’ journal the discerption gave wasn’t pale skin or light skin it was copper so that makes Bush a lie
My sister in law is Peruvian, her grandmother was full-blooded Quechuan and didn't speak Spanish. Her mother spoke both languages. My sister in law's ancestry results show something like 60% Native American! So the 'native American' really applies to all Americas of the western hemisphere. Not just the indian tribes of the USA boundaries.
Thank you so much....I found this video to be quite helpful. My Native American DNA did show up in my AncestryDNA results but not in my Uncle and my Sister. This video helps me understand so much more than I did before. Thank you !
Ancestry does not test all of your DNA. GEDmatch does. You should upload your DNA to GEDmatch. We know my wife is Cherokee. Ancestry has her at 2% Native American (NA). GEDmatch has her at 3.42%. Ancestry said I have 0% NA. GEDmatch said I have 1.15% NA. Use GEDmatch.
my little brother and I are both 15-20% native but that poor boy got ALL the irish genes ahsdljasdhfkagsf he goes outside for ten minutes and gets a nburn while i've never burned in my life. my bf is also 25% asian (filipino specifically) and his little brother, who is 100% white, looks more asian than he does to the average person
For someone who came from Mexico that sounds about right. The native would be whichever tribe inhabited your part of Mexico, the Euro would be the Spanish influence and the rest would be from the Spanish ancestor due to all the migration. I am euro with about 2% west African but you wouldn't guess it to look at me in the winter. I tan easier than most paleface people and retain my tan even into the fall.
We had a family story about my French-Canadian grandfather's grandmother having had some Native American ancestry. We found the person in the 1600s in her tree. I and one of my brothers each got
Michele Mandrioli maybe but it isn't like it matters you're probably just going to piss some of the more stuck up or normal natives by claiming that you're less than 1%
This is a great Podcast. I have a small portion of Native American DNA. I’ve gone through a large portion of my DNA matches and searched for others with Native American Ancestry. This has help me identify my ancestral line that the Native American Ancestry is associated with as 99.99 % of those with Native American Ancestry also descend from this line. Thank you for the Podcast!
Credin Animations FIRST BECAUSE NATIVE AMERICANS ARE AWESOME SECOND THEY'RE SEEN AS EXOTIC THIRD MOST PEOPLE ESPECIALLY BLACKS DON'T WANT TO ADMIT AND HAVE A HARD TIME DEALING WITH THEIR EUROPEAN ANCESTRY.
easy - because we are in America, and it gives us a deeper connection to our country. Being a country of immigrants, it means something to the soul. In my case, i'm 4% Native American, 2% East Asian. So 6% is a lot when you don't have a direct relative (this could mean my great-great grandparent was full-blooded; or, in my case, have two great-great's who were 50% [one of mine is confirmed]).
You are a great teacher ! You did a nice job explaining the DNA apportionment. This is interesting to me, because I have no idea who my Biological Mother was. My Biological father was drifter and had about 3 children....all out of wedlock. I was adopted and later found my Biological Father...(Frank Griffin). He was about 2/3 Irish, but he refused to tell me who my Mother was. My DNA panel showed 30% Irish, 26% Scandinavian, 25% British. The rest included a mixture of Eastern European, including a "Trace" of Middle Eastern. I'm tall thin, with Blue eyes and when I was young, I had thick Blond Hair. So, my assumption is that whoever my Mother was, she was Scandinavian with Eastern European Genes. We have no idea where the trace Middle Eastern DNA came from. Thank you, for your GREAT presentation. (Richard H. Pratt, Ph.D., Ltd. )
Thank you, Richard. Using your AncestryDNA Match list, you should be able to figure out the identity of your biological mother. When you look at that list, how many 3rd cousin (or closer) matches do you have?
Hmmm...I don't seem to have those. Ancestry DNA match list ? All I have is the pi chart with the %tage distribution of the nationalities. How do I get that information....I presume it's on file somewhere at Ancestry ?
The mythical Native American ancestor does seem very widespread. Given the history of how they were treated by governments, it's curious how having this in a family tree seems almost to give some borrowed legitimacy or nobility, doesn't it? I did a tree for a friend recently who also had this legend, but zero facts, and in fact both maternal and paternal sides were pretty well documented back to the old countries, even with lurid family stories that I was able to verify, zero trace of NA ancestry. In watching the various US and Brit shows like who do you think you are and the PBS program, you note all the celebrities with these myths--and that's what it turns out to be most of the time--myth. I wonder what Native Americans think about this weirdness.
+Tanya Juli Please understand that the subjugation of the Native American people of the current United States wasn't merely moving them out west somewhere and separating them from the rest of society. A century of suppression of documentation was so successful that most people commenting here will say, "Oh, what a silly myth to believe!"
I can tell you Rambo Mohawk that that is not the case for many tribes. The hopi for example. In some tribes, if your mother was not a member of the tribe, neither are you. Other tribes are extremely picky about who they consider tribal members or not whether money is involved or not.
In my opinion, I believe that myths and stories told by Non-natives( Those who claim to be, but really arent) give them a sence of "immunity" to the history atrocities done to Native Americans. I have heard the "Cherokee Princess" story over and over living in Oklahoma. It is sad, but at the same time it tells alot about how they think. They want people to see them as someone who's family suffered under the US government. They have no connections like benefits, healthcare, or profit sharing like a tribal member would get; but having a connection like a story gives them a sence of "entitlement". I am 3/16ths Fort Sill Apache. I would be considered white to everyone ( even myself), but I grew up being part of the tribe and its customs. Both of my maternal great grandparwnts were held as prisoners of war with Geronimo here in Lawton-Fort Sill, Oklahoma. I was raised to remember the times of hardship my family faced. Before being taken as prisoners, we had about 500 people in our "tribe" (The Chiricahua- Warm Springs Apache). The US government didnt realize that my ancestors were from different "bands", and still sent us all together by rail to St. Augustine, Florida and then to Mount Vernon, Alabama. Both times we were locked up in cells and shackles. After being incarcerated for 23 years in nasty conditions our tribe was finally released in 1915 at Fort Sill. At the time of release we only had 81 members, and we were no longer big enough to be considered a tribe. It wasnt until 1973? the Fort Sill Apaches were federally recognized as an official tribe. My great uncle Allan Haozous was the first Fort Sill Apache to be born outside of prison, and he went on to become Oklahoma's first cultural ambassador. I know most of my tribal history, and the furthes I can trace back is into the mid-1800s. That is with historical documentation. My great grandfathe Sam Haozous was the grandson of Mangas Coloradas, the first Warm Springs Apache leader to sign a treaty with America during the gold rush in Arizona. He rode with Geronimo in the Apache Wars against the US. No myths in my family, but I understand why some wish there were. And by the way, Geronimo never jumped from any cliff in Oklahoma. By the time he was transfered to OK from Alabama in 1896, he was already in his 70s... Sorry to dissapoint lol.
Helpful! I'm an amateur enthusiast who helps his friends get started with their research and getting tested. I don't have any N.A. ancestry by story or by DNA results but some of my friends I've helped either had apocryphal stories of that being in their background or when their tests came back it was a significantly lower percentage than what their stories would have suggested. This helps me figure out the right questions to ask when I'm helping somebody and gave me a record trove to check out I didn't know about. Most of my personal research has been so eurocentric I feel like I'm back to square one learning how to do research with these populations. But now I have a better place to start. Thanks!
I have family records that include my great grandfather was half Cherokee. This record is an interview for membership in the Dawes Rolls. My grandfather, George Washington Hicks, claims his father is white and his mother was full blood Cherokee. Your explaination made more sense than anything I have read. I do not show any American Indian in my DNA, however my sister shows 2% of Indian blood. As a family, we always listened to the stories of our Native blood. And now I have records to back it up. Thank you.
Went to the archives but could not find interview records. My gmother interviewed and the story goes she was too distant. I’d like to see the interview records. How?
Maybe bc Dawes rolls was made by whte ppl to lie about their race and be labeled native for land… you’re whte and so is your sister f that 2% blood pls
I was told I had a great grandmother who was Native American but through research I found out she was a step great grandmother which explained why I could not find any family on the Dawes Rolls. Her last name was Rattling Gourd which was cool.
I have lots of Native American in me. My dad side Paternal grandpa: Jicarilla & Chiricahua APACHE (NEW MEXICO & COLORADO) Paternal grandma: NAVAJO & HOPI. (ARIZONA) Maternal grandpa: O’ODHAM & HUICHOL (SONORA DESERT) Maternal grandmother: AFRICAN & EUROPEAN born in (Nayarit Mexico)
I have tried to explain this to my family. We have records of an Algonquin ancestor on my mother's side and an Iroquois on my father's side. That's only two people in my ancestry that were native and that was a loooooong time ago. The chances of that showing up if there hadn't been any other known native DNA that entered my genome is practically nonexistent. I mean all humans are related to each other if we go far enough back.
That’s why there’s only one race and that’s why we can always prorate procreate with each other that’s scientifically proves we are one race with many tribes in ethnicities that being said you wouldn’t exist without each and everyone of your ancestors but your dad is from the Iroquois that’s crazy he was a cannibal
Thank you for explaining this, I have been wondering about the portions of inheritance. My dad had eight siblings, and we have been trying to wrap our minds around several of my aunt's results. You explained it well
Thank you for this!!! This is why, when discussing my father's side of the family. I say my father's Native American ancestors. When people question this, I explain I'm heinz 57 (my color), red, white and blue 100% American. When asked for ethnicity on forms I write human being, red, white and blue.
Since my mother always said her great grandmother was full blooded Canadian Indian, j never understood why it didn't show up on my DNA. Thank you for explaining this!.
Or, vs. DNA, obtain vital records, find your ancestor on the Dawes and apply (or not) to your tribe. DNA results do not allow membership (blue card and CDIB). Keep in mind also, some tribes adopted into the tribe, those were not Native American. Tradition, once adopted, you were blood. However, government does require vital records. My ancestors are on the Dawes, walked the Trail of Tears, and their blood degree shows on their records. Yes, some maybe on the Dawes that aren't, but degree would be stated. Also note, we adopted from other tribes.
I’ve always wondered what I could do as far as having a way to apply for a tribe. I have found my great great grandmother and great great great grandparents on the Dawes Roll. They came to Tennessee via Trail of Tears from South Dakota.
I know for a fact that I have an ancestor who was 100% native American, it didn't show up in my done and that makes a lot of sense because it was my 8th great grandmother. She was an Indian chiefs daughter, they lived in the Hudson valley in New York state. I've traced my genealogy back to her husband who was my 7th great grandfather
Very intelligent, not many understand or accept the truth. I have NEVER understood DNA or science that well in the past, but I believe my brother has more native American than me. My two children who are both Cherokee and Creek look completely different. My son carrys more native ancestry/traits than my daughter but she STILL is Cherokee and Creek also. Both my mom and dad and their father's (my grandfather's) were Cherokee Indian. I married a Creek Indian. So my children have both, however they also have European ancestry, so do I. I passed down certain traits to all my children, but two of my children who are from two native tribes combined look completely different. Your explanation is backed by science but I always understood it from my soul. Thank you for the knowledge. Just wish people could accept the truth instead of lies. DNA doesn't lie!!!!
Let me begin, I love your video. Your explanation was very clear. I tried to explain this to a loved one who dismissed it when I tried explaining it before I finished. I hope your video gets further than I did. I’m thinking that it’s as true as is nearly all (if not all) African Americans have some European ancestry. I don’t find it so unheard of because we’re a mixed country. If the mixing was back in 1600s-1800s it won’t necessarily show up. Another is there are many unrecognized tribes and many tribes who are extinct (for a lack of a better word) who we don’t have a definitive dna sample to compare. I only have 0.3% Native American DNA with 1.1% unassigned. Maybe one day we’ll find out to whom that 1.1% is attributed.
Nice video! I did my DNA came out 49% Native American although I thought it would be less because of my father's side. There were the stories that get past down and I just had to know for sure..very exciting!
We had this story from both sides of my family. I got DNA testing for myself and my mother (father is 20 years deceased). 0.0% American Indian. I have .5% Sub-saharan African and my mother has a trace of Indian subcontinent. Since she is 78% British and Irish, I think her India connection is either an East Indies pirate or Roma. :)
Ancestry does not test all of your DNA. GEDmatch does. You should upload your DNA to GEDmatch. We know my wife is Cherokee. Ancestry has her at 2% Native American (NA). GEDmatch has her at 3.42%. Ancestry said I have 0% NA. GEDmatch said I have 1.15% NA. Use GEDmatch!!!!
As of January 2015, the U.S. Federal government recognized 566 tribes (now 567 with the Pamunkey in Virginia), not thousands. There are still a significant number of state-recognized tribes across the country, many of which are not in the western portions of the United States. The Powhatan Confederacy wasn't located in what is now known as Oklahoma.
I wasn't speaking of the Patawomomeck. I used the Pamunkey because they are more familiar to me; also, they had recently received Federal recognition. No disrespect intended to the Patawomeck. Many Eastern Woodlands tribes did what they must to survive, such as disassociating themselves. It is one reason why it is difficult to find some of the documentation. Another of those reasons was the practice of arbitrary designation by officials. My ancestors who were living off the reservation were labeled based on the assumptions/wishes of others.
According to my grandmother we have many native ancestors just 4 or 5 tiers above me. I've always been curious because I love the spiritual and cultural practices that Native communities maintain. From what I understand, the one way for me to be able to visit these communities is to prove relation. I would love to spend time on a res and learn more about the TRUE history of these natives as well as be able to experience the scared energy that, hopefully, remains at these sights. Also, I think it would be useful in understanding my metaphysical self and spiritual abilities that run through our bloodline.
Wonderful...only reason I finally took the plunge and did Ancestry DNA was for this very reason (to finally prove once and for all, my Mom's family genealogy that supposedly has Native American in it).
D. Augustine Actually - yes they were, but it didn't show up in the Ancestry DNA because the percentage was so small (less than 1%) that it didn't register, but I found another place called GEDmatch.com. You upload your raw DNA file there, and they make it accessible in like 24 hours to look up against all sorts of ancient lineages, and I did find that I am 0.44% Native American (and a lot of other stuff). Pretty amazing stuff. Try it if you did Ancestry DNA.
You do not know how to use gedmatch properly. Anything under 1 percent on gedmatch is noise -insignificant. Your native American score of 0.44% is in fact 0%. The guys who made those tests said so. EVERYBODY will score some minute amount. For example, I came to America only 15 years ago - all my ancestors are Polish. They never even knew what a Native American was. I'm 100% European. And yet my "Native American" score is 0.89 - twice as high as yours, lol. Gee, I must be descended from a Cherokee princess, somehow taken captive by a Polish peasant. :-DDDD And if I tell that story to my kids, a few generations from now their descendants will swear that their GGGmother was half-blood Cherokee.
Monika Bielinski All valid, except for this simple fact...I'm not from Europe as you. I was born here in the United States, and yes my Great Grandmother was full Cherokee.
If your great grandmother was indeed full blood Cherokee, it would have shown up on ancestry and gedmatch. The connection you claim is simply too recent NOT to show up. 1/8 th native wouldn't get a big fat zero on Ancestry and gedmatch. Sorry.
@@oppboyputt Actually the term mulatto originally meant mixed White European and Native American long before it changed by definition to be mixed African and white it can also include actual Native American which in usually referred to as Metis or a combination of all is called Melungeon. Even the Dawes and tribal rolls will say for those of mixed descent will state the ancestry as Native. And white such as French or English or if their ancestor is black it will say black and Native.
Doesn’t seem to be many videos online with natives and African mixed ancestry. Which I find quite odd when we know the relationships that natives had with African and Scottish both being high in number. It seems as though if you did not mix with a European you can’t claim your mixed ancestry
Ancestry and DNA is still a relatively new and fascinating field. As time progresses and more people are tested I think it will become more accurate. Your explanation was truly easy to understand. Sadly there are so many of us in these last few generations that do not have accurate birth certificates, marriage and remarriage and so much else pulls us away from our roots.
Thank you very much! I'm thinking in our case, they claimed Cherokee ancestry to hide the fact they had African ancestry. My results showed African ancestry and most of my dad's side came from Appalachia (TN and NC) so it's likely they tried to hide it especially given the time and place.
I remember reading an article regarding what you are saying about 10 (or more) years ago. It spoke about how some AA's & mixed couples pretended that the AA partner was Native American because they felt it would be much easier accepted. They explain that this is the reason why so many AA's think that they are part Native American when they are not. Now some people took the pretending in a different direction because when they got here they were not aware that what they were pretending to be didn't have it good here either. I met a elderly woman about 15 years ago who told me she met her sailor husband in Puerto Rico. He was a southerner & felt that she would not be accepted down there so they decided to tell everyone that she is Italian. I also knew a dark skin Panamanian family and a dark skin Dominican Family who pretended to be African-American because when their families came here 60-70 years ago they felt they would be easier accepted if they were AA instead of Latinos.
I can prove Shawnee ancestry... but that’s partially because one of my ancestors, Henry Lail, was captured by the Shawnee during the Revolutionary War at a young age. He married a woman who was the daughter of a French fur trader (who was most likely Métis, from research) and a Shawnee woman. However, this is a pretty well-documented historical event She’s so far back in my ancestry (7th-great-grandmother), that she wouldn’t specifically show up in my DNA test... however, if you test her matrilineal descendants (through my great-grandfather’s sisters, so my 3rd cousins of various removes), you can connect them within the MtDNA of Native Americans. Which is just a lucky break because there is such an unbroken female line connecting such a recent ancestor in my family tree to her. I do have other provable Native ancestry (ironically, through another mixed person, who was Black and Native). To be fair, though, it’s also because there was such a meticulous paper trail connecting him to me, in part because the guy sued for his freedom from slavery in the early 1700s and won. There’s another ancestor of Native descent, but, ironically, his white dad is the one whose identity is in question, not the Native mother, Pamunkey Chieftess Cockacoeske. Her half-white son, John West had a daughter I descend from. (This is one of eight different lines of descent I have through the West family, though). In all these cases, though, the stories not only line up, but the paper trail also still exists. The other confounding factor is that my family tree contains enough inbreeding that any given descendant is gonna be a random degree of descent from these more distant ancestors, some showing more Native and others showing less. Long story short, genetics is weird.
I got my DNA done through you folks.... no Native showed up. However, I had my results analyzed by several other companies, and the Native connection DID show up, albeit, very little. We had NO stories in our family, of Native great, great grand parents or anything like that... but when I did my paper trail research, I found a possible connection to Natives... but still not 100% sure where it came from. Also detected by other DNA companies, was Native DNA from Greenland; again, very little, but I suspect it came by way of my Norse connection, that settled there.
Well, I was told David Kirk was my father, but never knew him. According to my Grandmother, He was a service man who cared for my mother and when he returned from the war, was going to marry her. So on my birth certificate shows her married and my father David Kirk. The marriage never happened. This I found when I was in my 40's. So now both my Mom and Grandmother passed, Mom being an only child. I do remember, while growing up, my mother would always say, "You have relatives in Spain, You're Castilian". So my hope is through this testing I may find this to be true. Won't that be exciting! Can;t wait to find someone who may know him.
I received my husband's Ancestry DNA results this week and it was a bit confusing. He had previously been tested by another company that said he was 8% Native American but, the Ancestry DNA results came back with 0%. I understand how DNA works. I called Ancestry last night and they referred me to this video and an article about Native American DNA. As I suspected it doesn't really apply to the issue concerning my husband's DNA. We know that he had Native American ancestry in his family history and the first test definitely confirmed that information. My question is why did it not show up on Ancestry's test? This isn't a question of "if" he has Native American DNA because we already know this from a previous test. Has anyone else had a difference in results from different testing companies? Thanks!
Ancestry does not test all of your DNA. GEDmatch does. You should upload your DNA to GEDmatch. We know my wife is Cherokee. Ancestry has her at 2% Native American (NA). GEDmatch has her at 3.42%. Ancestry said I have 0% NA. GEDmatch said I have 1.15% NA. Use GEDmatch.
Great great information! Thank you so much for explaining in that method. I have 1% Native American. I had Ancestry since Dec. 2020 and I took the test last summer and it updated three times and my Native American dna still stayed the same. I love the Missing Native American DNA chart that made perfect since why I got that 1% Native American DNA. I’m going to get mom tested soon. Thanks and have a blessed day.
@@AncestryUS Thanks! Although it does say it came from Indigenous North America. I don’t know which tribe or community my Native American ancestor came from. I got it from my dads side of the family and I started doing a family tree and I have an idea who it may have came from in my family tree. Im assuming either my fourth or fifth great grandparent was 100% Native American. It’ll be neat to find which tribe they came from. I haven’t gotten that far yet. Thanks again!
I am of early French Canadian ancestry. The explorers and fur traders were my ancestors. In my family tree there are at least six 8th and 9th Native Great grandmothers documented. Native does not show up in my DNA but it does show up in the mirror!
I like that response!! I say that quite often to myself!! Who are you in the mirror? Some days I look Indigenous Some days I look Caribe Some days I look Africana Some days African American Some days I Look like Me lol🥰
Thank you for this explanation of the DNA. Now my parents were double second cousins. What then? I am not good at math hehe. I just sent off my DNA test through Ancestry 2 days ago! Can't wait to get the results!!
My dad's family told me that my great great grandmother was part Akwesasne Mohawk from Canada. I inherited no Mohawk DNA, instead my DNA percentages are: 54% NorthEastern Europe and English, 16% Scottish, 14% Irish, 5% Basque, 4% Welsh 2% Spanish, 2% Benin and Togo(West Africa) , 1% Mali(West Africa), 1% Senegal( West Africa), 1% Germanic Europe(some Ashkenazi Jew ancestry from Bavaria. My father's family DOES have members who I actually know are relatives, and most of them have very small percentages of indigenous American, about anywhere from 1-5%. There is one member who lives in Quebec, Canada, who has 40% Indigenous American DNA. The relatives who have very little DNA are a generation or two above me, and my great grandma wasn't full Akwesasne, so I'm guessing that probably wasn't enough Indigenous American DNA to be passed down to me.
My G-G-G-Grandmother was supposedly Cherokee. My DNA test shows under 1% Native American. I guess that could be correct. I wish my mother was still alive to get tested.
+SchweizMuscogee You are sort of correct in the sense about the crapshoot, seeing that upon conception each child receives a random 50 percent of each their parents dna, but you are a straight up liar about she could have more, and Ancestry DNA doesn’t have a reliable database to compare it to. Native Americans all have a quite similar genetic signature, although varying, but there are detectable imprints upon their genetic signature peoples testing for it can detect despite the variations. Therefore the small percentage she received is more than likely correct in an estimation range wise.
Excellent video!! I love Ancestry site. Found my 3 half sisters through researching the site. We have the same father!!I have not done my DNA yet but will.
According to my father, our family has a small amount of Mexican. I would like to venture out and do an DNA test. I have no doubts, I am full Native American. I honestly think I was reincarnated, my dreams are places I never been, nor the food I eat. I feel misplaced in this era. Definitely, I would like to get results.
I actually have the case similar to you , my grand fathers I believe great grandfather was the one who was Cherokee. Now I have managed to trace back where in it all thanks to the pictures and family stories that I found when researching.
I tested ~3% and my mom tested the same ~3% I wish my grandparents on my mom's side were still alive. This stuff is very interesting, every percent is a piece of who you are and should be cherished. I only wish I knew more about family further back than my great grandparents, but unfortunately nobody knows anything about them it seems. I'd love to see a picture of the native ancestor and know his/her name.
"mines did" thirty-six percent Native American and it indicates straight to New Mexico which corresponds to my family history of our Pueblo ancestry (of course with a similar amount of Hispanic/Spaniard too)....that's from Ancestry
My Great Grandfather was a sheepherder in a little territory called El Rancho de Taos. I haven't taken the test, but my son did and it showed 8% Native American(New Mexico) for him. I plan on getting the test done too.
I have a similar story. The ancestor is identified and we have photographs of her. She was my ancestor 5 generations back and was supposedly Cherokee living in the Ozark region of Arkansas. Neither my mother, myself or my daughter have DNA recognized as Native DNA.
Just tell them they can call themselves what they want; but, you are the ORIGINAL MAN. (the Blackman). Everything else is pseudo-European inventions. lol
I seen identical twins results... They didn't get the same results and they wondered why. From then I understood the %ages. This is another great analogy.
I was never told I had any Native but took the test and found out I did! I was quite surprised. I was able to trace my ancestor and she was of the Mi'kmaq tribe in Nova Scotia. I have some Native facial features and kids used to ask if I was Chinese as a kid lol. I don't look Chinese but my eyes do look a bit Asian or Inuit and my facial structure looks Nativeish. But I am mostly Norwegian, German, Dutch, French and Scottish.
Certain genetic mutations started in northern and northeastern China (Manchuria), and started stretching along with patterns in Siberia; and I suppose that's where they became different.
When you say "Blacks say," that sounds as if you are including every single Black person in America. Which is so far from the truth. lol Yes, I am Black, and I am American, but do I believe that Black people as a whole are the original Natives to the Americas? Heck to the no.
DontTreadOnMe IwontTreadOnYou well if you look at america and its people 5000 years ago itll be native but today its mixed n white. Just like 5000 years ago in Eygpt it was black but now its what.. The people changed over time from death to wars to invasions. Just like america. NA say whites invaded n stole land.. Same in Egypt. The people were black.
