Ancient Egyptian Granite Sawing Technology: reconstruction 

That is a very nice experiment! Thank you! Is there any new scientific explanation, on how they cut those up to 80 ton blocks in the cheops pyramid and e.g. the 1000+ ton unfinished obelisk in Aswan? Serious question and if you know a source, maybe you can post a link for me. Thank you :)

So what are we proving. That 17 mm Of Rose Granite can be cut through in 3. 5 hours? What have you proven. When you claim this is using ancient Egyptian methods there is a missing link here. 1. Show pictorial or written evidence that they did this. The problem here is the extant tools available to examine were all small handheld tools, fine if you are discussing small items, less fine when discussing megalithic sizes, indeed if we take the length of the piece cut we can safely say it would take not much more to do a length a few times that to the same depth because the full reach of the arm will easily do so, but longer than say 4x the piece will not be done in the same time because one has to move, so as soon as you have a length longer than maximal arm reach, you need another like amount of time-Or another person but along a length only a certain number of people can work. Now we have no pictorial or written evidence of long saws to do this nor any artefact to support so we are guessing, but give the benefit of the doubt and claim that which we have evidence for was used, or even longer saws. So, a cube has 8 faces to cut to give it the shape free of the surrounding unshaped rock. So we can say at the wear rate of the copper, we need a lot of copper blades, so we should be able to show extensive amounts of copper and copper mining somewhere to provide the tools-We don't have this. Then we have the water and sand or other abrasive agent, some of which could be reused but even so the wind and mingling with larger pieces of rock will demand tons upon tons of abrasive. We have no evidence of extensive stores or transport of this. And water, even if done beside the source, the water needs pumping. All these alleged solutions always fail. Why, they are not doing to completion and are ignoring the reality. For GOOD evidence. Set up to complete 3 blocks the relevant size, then organise (and this organisation is part of the total time) who works when, get your stone from the nearest quarry, transport to where you deem it should be fully dressed, it being transported according to how you best feel it was. Use the tools you believe were used, use toilet facilities you believe were there or bring a porta loo and we excuse that as existing in initial set up or travel to home after working day. And then set to. Factor any on site breaks deemed necessary but with say 3+ workers this should permit a continual rotation, once you have quarried the 3 lumps of granite, moved them and cut them and logged the amount of water and abrasive used, and how many tools gone through and have 3 perfect blocks completed, THEN you can pretend you have solved a mystery but as it stands, you gave us an idea that lacks wider considerations of working issues like transport, proving the tools, feeding, water and abrasive quantities needed, tool turnover rate. And simply wasted 3.5 hours to cut a thin sliver into the granite. IE you have proved YOU can do what YOU did, you have NOT proven to a scientific standard that that would meet the rate required to build whatever you are trying to prove. So let us not be dishonest

@@barrymead3358 On all ancient building sites, which construction method we do understand, we did find the tools in the excavations of those places. This really is an interesting point in my opinion.

@@tobytoxd Yes in some we have, the pyramids and surrounding complexes, which did use beside the easy to crave sandstone and limestone, granite. Given the sheer quantity of stone and how fast it had to be put in place, they needed a better option than what is proposed here. Theories abound but whatever we go with, a quick hazarded guess just is not enough. Take Petra for example, they had 2 masons replicate the entrance to one of the city entrances and they did so well, easy to carve and easy to replicate it took not too long with hammers and chisels, so we can be sure that if simple tools existed and they likely did, that is what they did there. With places like Puma Punku or Machu Pichu or The entire ancient Egyptian works, we have to consider what tools we know were there, then test for a few full works, hence if we can establish say 3 granite pillars, sarcophagi or blocks for the pyramid (of the known granite ones) we can then factor for number of items of that material, where quarried, and how transported etc. The demo here misses a lot for a truly scientific test and so cannot possibly be counted good enough as to be an "answer"

B.. b... but! All the charalatans and frauds say they had some lost "high" technology and did things that we cannot even reproduce today! I know something was high, and it wasn't the technology... {:-:}

Precision? I didn't see them measure anything? How about a surface roughness gauge, how about some laser scanning and put it in the computer and see how accurate it is. Make a square box with inside corners all square to each other to .001"

Thank you!

No vase like you describe has ever been found. The level of accuracy is far less than 1/1000 of an inch and far from symmetrical. Alabaster is not granite. These vases were not cut with copper saws, they were drilled, pounded, ground and polished. You don't use a hammer to paint a wall.

Yes is was feasible. Bear in mind one thing however. Most of Egyptian and other construction was limestone - which is not terribly hard. That was owing to its' ubiquity and ease of working. Thus you can certainly "saw" limestone - but it is easier to simply chisel out something to shape using either bronze chisels - or gneiss stone ones. There are examples in Egypt showing whereby they were hammering something into shape and abandoned it prior to completion - usually because the Pharaoh in question died and the workers moved onto other things. There are chisel tracts on blocks found on pyramids as well. Moral: to obtain basic shapes on hard stone like granite then gneiss stone tools like Flint or Dolerite pounders would be used. The object then could be sanded smooth using an abrasive medium. "Sawing" something was certainly possible - if time consuming. So they probably did not do a lot of sawing as much as using the other mechanism of hammerstones + firesetting to "soften" the stone + and sometimes bronze tool. Remember however that by the New Kingdom period - when you see a lot of granite use - while the Egyptians did not smelt iron = others did. It is therefore possible that some iron tools made their way to Egypt and after the Persian period when the Egyptians also began to smelt iron then they would have become commonplace. Have a nice day.

No saws large enough have been found. The only depictions of saws show them cutting wood. If there were saws large enough being used in that time period they would’ve been found or depicted so it’s tough to say how they actually did it

To you I would say do some basic arithmetic even using the figures generated by this experiment.

Nah dude, there are millions of blocks and they say it was done in twenty years. Do the math, even this (which is awesome) doesn't add up. They cut through some of the hardest rock in the world like butter, fitted them perfectly together (according to a pre-designed plan according to architects analysing it) and moved them hundreds of kilometres. We are missing something. Most evidence points to the timeline being wrong. The pyramids are far older than they have been credited. Monoliths were built with tools or methods still unknown to us. my money is on some kind of advanced vibration based method. We know that that would work (ant it would work with copper tools to actually shape it if the vibration was present somehow).

Pyramids have been built in around 20 years btw. Good luck achieving that with presented methods

the last lines reminds me of a famous line "if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball"

> here is a huge extrapolation being made . By whom?

@@ScientistsAgainstMyths I am simply saying.. look at the oldest examples of precision granite and other hard stonework. Examine and record ALL tool marks that can be seen on the stonework .. conduct the experiment (not just a little scratch but deep cut marks that have been recorded all over) then compare the results .. does the experimental saw cuts leave IDENTICAL marks as on the stones we examined and recorded? If the experiment is NOT producing the same tool marks then it can't be the method used by the ancients. An example is Mark Learner's core drilling sample they used a copper tube and sand and created a core. They then tried to pop it out with copper chisels and found they couldn't do it .. so they switched to steel chisels popped the core out and proclaimed it was a success and that is how the ancients did it. But that experiment and others done the same have NOT left the striations on the core or the walls of the hole. AGAIN .. examine and record the ancient stonework, Conduct the experiment and compare the results, If the experiment does NOT produce the identical tool marks as on the original that is NOT the method the ancients used. I am not saying they had power tools .. but I do believe they had access to harder metals and worked with more refined abrasives and utilized technics that have been lost in time. As much ancient writings that we have . whole ancient libraries have been destroyed by one group of religious zealots or others. On planet earth we have some areas that can launch people to space and other areas living in the stone age. Technical cultures have come and gone but stone age cultures always seem to survive. I just believe there was a smaller culture in the past that achieved abilities that was more advanced than the hunter gatherers and spread certain stone working abilities around the globe and then for whatever reason died off taking that knowledge with them. I am not talking power tools or motorized transport. just a small branch of humanity and not alien either .. We are still discovering new small branches like the denisovans etc .. And just like the natives of north and south America were not immune to new diseases when the europeans arrived these global travels could have just as easy picked up a bug the small culture could not survive. I think of that culture as almost like missionaries in the past .. a boat load of a dozen to 100 would go and teach the word from a book the people had never seen before ... another example is WW2 and the Cargo cult. Americans came to remote islands in the pacific brought higher knowledge and left.. Later the natives build a plane from straw and hoped they would return.

Pounding stones. There's a few videos demonstrating it.

Well they are not "scoop" marks.

@@xibear4341 pounding stones theory is not only ideological, but an embarrassing theory.

The pounding stone theory is most likely correct, but the pounding stones they found are used ones, that's why they are rounded. The stones are dolerite, and comes in irregular bits, not rounded, so it functions like an pick-axe, they didn't pound the stone, they chopped and grinded pieces off, similar to what we do today, until the stones became round and used up. At 27:38 into this video you can see similar scoop marks, watch?v=qxkP9_5mskg The edges of the scoop marks at the Obelisk have been soften and rounded because of wind and sand during years and years, that's why it looks like ice-cream marks and not hard edges.

@Seeyou Seemee Chop, not pund.

Yes, the Egyptians even drew it. There are radiused cuts on unfinished items that perfectly match what you describe above!

@@juniorballs6025 show me the drawings

@@fustercluck2460 Sacred Geometry Decoded does it far better than I ever could mate, check out the channel. So much knowledge that's just ignored by the Lost Ancient High Technology lot. It's all on the channel, and he does practical demonstrations on cutting, moving etc. Actually quite riveting. Check it out, would love to hear what you make of it if you care to share?

@@klgamit worth noting the unfinished obelisk (if we're talking the same one) has so many flaws and imperfections that it's quite probable that it was a works scam of the time. So much work done to something so inherently flawed it was never going to fulfil its purpose. Add paid labour into the mix with paid supervisors and you have a fairly plausible hypothesis. Corruption is not a modern thing!!!

@@klgamit if you would like to see practical demonstrations, sacred geometry Decoded shows how it was all done with no outrageous claims, just elbow grease. There are pictures all over the pyramids and temples showing exactly how they did it all, but Lost Ancient Technology advocates ignore all that

After 2 inches the tip sand down the cut and wait for the wind to work its magic and repeat. They had all the time in the world🤔

Insert wedge to chip off the core, and repeat the process. The core could have been also ground, but I would avoid it since this is a lot of work. Note, the hole usually widens toward the top, as the tool also grinds the sides a bit and creates the grooves.

First you have to aswer: what a method was used to mesure "perfect symmetry" of 40 thousand bowls? Any ideas?

@@ScientistsAgainstMyths Hey, You guys are the myth busters. That's your job. In modern times we measure thickness with precisely calibrated calipers, of which no trace of such tools were ever found in ancient sites. Aren't you suggesting with your videos that there is no mystery in the cutting of granite of ancient times ? That an amateur basically can do it with a piece of copper and some abrasive paste? I'm not suggesting aliens came down and did it, but there is a hell of a lot that is not known and your video does not in any way acknowledge this. Maybe you could state exactly which myth you are busting and I would be more clear on your intentions.

@Late to the party > In modern times we measure thickness with precisely calibrated calipers, of which no trace of such tools were ever found in ancient sites. Aren't you suggesting with your videos that there is no mystery in the cutting of granite of ancient times? I'm suggesting in my commentary that "perfect symmetry" is just words without any real measurings. i recomend you videos about stone vases: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dC3Z_DBnCp8.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Mq2KGQajfAo.html and about "perfect artifacts": ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HQi4yql7Ysg.html

@@DarkNookShop Would you agree that if anyone else then the ancient Egyptians would make such a stone vase, with thin walls and inner hollowing, it would prove that no advanced technology is necessary?

@@DarkNookShop “did you think nobody would notice-“ LOL 😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆brilliant!!😂 I watched them make that vase and I noticed the straight drill hole that was just LEFT as it was!! Hahaha brilliant. 😂 I wouldn’t buy it as a souvenir 😂

Thanks for watching!

Watch a video of bulls dragging Mussolini's obelisk over logs in 1929. The obelisk weighed about 350 tons. The Egyptians preferred water transportation.

@@ScientistsAgainstMyths Please link the video, I cannot find it even using all the keywords. What I have to find out now is if a waterway that connected the quarry to where the stones are. Even if that were the case, I don't see how they could keep a 100 ton stone afloat.

The video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PwcCxJJsCf0.html

We have published a big video about the Serapeum sarcophagi ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-47HAYcii_Q8.html

you can also pivot the stones no matter the weight, you place a small stone underneath near the center and spin in, place another stone down, lever it up onto that stone, then spin it, place another stone etc. one man can do many tonnes on his own, 10 men could do 100 easily.

Still, it just proves that this was not the method used in Egipt. The method from the video cannot be used on huge granite blocks, but only on thin slabs - makes a world of difference.

No it literally just took them that long to do it, Egyptians been around for thousands of years, few decades don’t mean much especially when it comes to architecture, Great Wall of China took hundreds of years to build

good analysis.

Also .. did their experiment leave the IDENTICAL tool marks as we see on the ancient stonework? If the experiment does not produce identical tool marks it is not the method the ancients used.

Tube drilling is a different technic. And in the beginning I think he said he was able to do 1 cm per hour. Also, these are amateurs, the egyptians perfected this over 1000s of years. Also, they just show that it is possible (no ancient high tech, power or "diamond tools" needed), not the exact technic. The egyptian period was over 3000 years - they had time….and manpower. So yes, I am sure you are missing something.

@@haknys He did a good job putting a line in that thin piece of granite using a tool that the Egyptians didn’t use. And also measure the cut to see how precise that line is to see how close to Egyptian level of precision regarding flatness thats only a few microns off. Also it’s just this century that even have tools that can measure microns and that tool can only be made with precision machine.

and they were damn skilled craftsmen too, conspiracy theorists cant conprehend how good you can be at something

If someone sqauts in a building and sprays graffiti everywhere and then dies in it, you dont assume they built the building. Later Egyptians inherited all the early stuff and tried their hand at renovation and copying what they saw. There is a remarkable difference between the earlier monolithic buildings and artefacts and the later stuff.

This is for you: Granite, a Copper Saw, and Abrasive Material Principles of Loose Abrasive Sawing: antropogenez.ru/sawing/ "Principles of tubular free abrasive drilling" antropogenez.ru/drilling/

The tools and the grinding agents have been found. The work went faster than you think. They had an enormous labour force and decades of time to spend.

To debunk a thing demands you first have compelling evidence to offer an alternative explanation. Those videos you allude to are based upon ignorance and incredulity offering up little more than argumentum ad ignorantiam - aka "innuendo". Their target audience are people who are gullible enough to believe them based upon too much consumption of pseudoscience/history and entertainment television. This video on the other hand is supported by historical/archeological/scientific evidence.

@@varyolla435 well said.

Several million times. On several work sites. What about inside cuts. What about the intricate carvings on hundreds of statues.

I see you wes! You also are a bright insight fan like me!

Not to mention sometimes curving the cuts to a small degree of error.

@@bowlofsoup12 ​ @Professor Cakes bright insight? please...

This technique does not prove anything on how they cut granite.

Most of the pyramid (~98%) was made out of limestone not granite. The pyramids were also built right next to the limestone quarry as well so they didn't have to transport it far.

If they use that technique it will take a million years cutting down the granite and another million years transforting them and another million yeats to construct the pyramid.

@@darrenb3830 They were not cutting a 2 kilos limestone but rather a several tons of such. Stocking them up even in todays technology is not evwn posible, did the acient just tossed them one by one to stacked them in place.

@@grande6075 They used earth ramps and roller pulleys.

They also weren't wearing Egyptian clothes. If you aim to demonstrate something other than that you are missing the point of the whole experiment, I'm afraid I'm not smart enough to get it.

Now imagine 20.000 people doing this 16 hours a day for 40 years because they are excited for the pharaoh's afterlife. I just realized - ancient Egyptians must have invented meth!

@@disklamer Actually most of the predynastic and early dynastic work was not exactly for the Pharoah's afterlife only. And this is not the way the large items were made from granite and basalt and other very hard rocks. The loss of copper is great and the process does not scale to the size required. A little research into what is already published would have saved the misinformation of this video. :(

Naturally you failed to articulate why this is supposedly so........ 🥱

@@varyolla435 The amount of time, energy and size of the stone make this method impossible. If they were making kitchen countertops this method is spot on.

@@henryknox1186 so Egyptian’s don’t have time or energy?

@@gravitonthongs1363 correct. You are finally beginning to understand. 2.3 million blocks in the great pyrimid. This method would take more time to make a single pyrimid than they existed. Egyptians did not make the pyramids. They inharited them from an earlier civilization.

@@henryknox1186 yet you know the previous unknown pre-pottery, non-agricultural civilisation had the time and energy? A bit presumptuous to say the least. Do you ever do more than attempt to disguise your speculation as understanding?

Thank you. In our experiments, the cords broke very quickly.

They could have scored the stone with a rock then tapped a along the score line it would have been a cleaner cut with less loss then pollished the surface. But that would take less than a minute.

Yes. By the time of Giza's creation the Egyptians had been building pyramids for more than a century. Khufu's father Sneferu built 3 himself. We know this in part because phyle markings incorporating his name - such as the "graffiti" found within the Great Pyramid which incorporated Khufu's name - was found in the inward face of casing stones which had been broken free on pyramids at Dahshur. Identical phyle names were found on more than one pyramid attributed to Sneferu indicating teams worked on multiple pyramids. So by the time of Khufu the Egyptians were adept at building them - while as alluded to above there were probably some people who were experienced having worked on his father's pyramids who subsequently worked on his. Thus as you noted they would have benefitted from that accumulated experience. The same for setting up a logistical system to support the workforce as those details would have also been worked out previously. The Egyptians employed _"the corvee"_ which was a system whereby able-bodied Egyptians were required to work part of each year on public projects. Thus they were skilled at working stone and organizing large projects. 🤔

wasn't the better, more quality stone work done in the beginning of the Egiptian Empire? where did they accumulate the experience?

@Ooki Cooki the corundum is abrasive, of course, this is the principle they also cut stones today. Corundum is making the magic, but it is no surprise, in the mohr scale is higher (harder) than granite minerals. With diamond sand the cut would have been even faster. So, at the base of this experiment is the availability of corundum sand to egyptians.

@Ooki Cooki Thanks, bronze tooling was interesting. They ran out of tin for the alloy. Looks like they eventually solved that by importing it from Peru, near Lake Titicaca.

@Ooki Cooki are you saying that this video is not intended to show the technology used by egyptians to cut granite blocks?

@Ooki Cooki unfortunately materials have different preservation potential and thus the archeaological findings, if not protected from weathering, are subject to this and what survive are the most stable materials. As for paleontology I guess that also the archaeological record is incomplete. Anyway I studied geology and not archaeology but these mysteries are fascinating and I would like to see a serious demonstration of how rock blocks were cut and mooved. I'm not convinced at all in the geopolymer theory but I'm not satisfied either from this video claiming this was the way they cut granite. I would enjoy to see the authors facing with a large granite piece and see if they are able to cut a block out with their tecnique. Many theories seems to be made from sitting on the sofa without facing the reality. There is the need to proove them in the field. The remaining is bullshit.

What method do you find most convincing?

Or knows anything about using cutting tools. The blades required to cut blocks of the size the ancient Egyptians were using would be enormous. So, where are they?

@@rolanddeschain965 2 man copper saws are depicted in ancient Egyptian artwork. Black Mediterranean sand is higher on the mohs scale than granite. Mixed with water the slurry is highly abrasive and it is that that does the work. The main material for pyramid construction was local limestone an easily worked material. The skilled craftsman worked the hard granite from the Aswan quarry. The British museum has a collection of granite bowl making tools.

Read video description, plz. Large blocks were mined using a different method

@@ScientistsAgainstMyths nice

Exactly. On attempts the copper lost was great. Forget it, this has been tried and is published - some of the earliest things tried to replicate ancient work. These techniquesdo not scale upward. They just don't. Could be used for later objects but not the huge ancient ones.

@@JK-ff6zc Yes. Rope and sand were used to cut blocks like butter. Very hard butter. It's just slow. But it works perfectly well.

@@Chris.Davies Considering the size and number of blocks, I doubt it. It depends a lot on the type of stone. Suggest trying cutting even soft stone with rope, sand.

Specifically the granite coffin of Lahun would require a different technique to fabricate, as the presented method can only cut through the entire length of material. Also a time estimation would be helpful to get an idea how long it would take to create such an object from a natural granite block.

@@panicraptor2837 Are you talking about the lip on the top edge of the coffin?

@@joshuamiller8235 no, the inside cutout where the body lays

I.e. when you have a square block of wood, you can't use a saw to create an open box out of this, if you want the box to be a single piece of wood. Seems like it has to be done with carving tools, unless its possible to use the copper saws to make only partial cuts.

@@panicraptor2837 There some videos on RU-vid explaining how this is done. Basically they use copper tube drills to drill to the desired depth. Repeat across the entire surface of the cavity, overlapping each circular cut. Then you simply knock the cores out with a wedge, and finish the bottom and insides with stones.

And write at least one non-standard comment. Good luck ))

@@ScientistsAgainstMyths it’s not standard, by far from standard. If it were standard then all Egyptologist would say it. The standard is that the pyramids were built in 20ish years using crude methods. Great job on trying to solve the mystery but it would take too long to complete the pyramids this way. I’d like for you to get with others that work in scientific fields and show them your methods. Maybe a podcast or something, show your evidence and see what they think. They may have some questions.

@@chiefsilverstacker1176 These guys are a handful of researchers and archaeologists haha they don't have the whole Egyptian civilisation at their will to help....

@@jcie1210mk3 did I say to get the whole Egyptian civilization together?

@@chiefsilverstacker1176 "do this 2000 times" these are a handful of people. Why would they do this several thousand times 😂 they don't have to... You do know theres plenty of people that shape granite by hand today also?

Yes.

These numbers are likely on the low end due to the inexperience of these RU-vidrs. The REAL stonemasons probably had much better tools, if not large jigs with weights and ropes, possibly powered by water. And years of experience under their belt and multiple people making multiple cuts.

@@joshuamiller8235 Nope, these numbers are quite the opposite, the cut was short and they used the best abrasive they could. But I agree, that the REAL stonemasons probably had much better tools. They had to, in order to be able to cut all those thousands of quite large stones.

@@Princip666 I really have to disagree with that. They are using river sand, not some abrasive they bought from the store. The only thing they are using that the builders of the Egyptian megaliths didnt have is the plasticine clay. Which the builders could have used regular natural clay instead. And this is one of only a few times these guys have ever attempted this. They lack experience and the working muscles that the original builders would have had. These original builders did this every day, all day, until the day they physically couldn't. Let me ask you this. Who do you think would finish a small stone carving statue first and with better results? A lifelong stonecutter, or some random person who has never picked up a chisel in his life, but read books on how they work? Experience matters in this type of setting.

@@joshuamiller8235 "utilizing a copper saw with an abrasive agent (corundum)" it's in the video description, are you even serious?

@@Princip666 100% serious. Abrasive does not = man made. Are some abrasives synthetic? absolutely. But not all. But they wouldn't even need a synthetic abrasive. All they would have needed is finely crushed rock from the very same piece they are trying to cut, as an abrasive. Granite will cit granite. Or like in my previous comment, The megalith builders most likely used river sediment because it's already very fine. I'm not gonna be your personal Google anymore, But I encourage you to look up the composition of Saharan sand, or the Composition of Nile river sediments. Then look up a mohs hardness scale and use it for reference when looking at the local sediment composition. No lasers, no supersonic drills, or geo-polymers, or aliens. Just pure hard work, craftsmanship, and time. Also check out Mike Haduck Masonry channel on RU-vid. He visits these sites and comments on his theories as a 50 year 3rd generation stone mason.

Thank you!

The same materials and principles on a large copper pendulum saw would cut a 1 ton block requiring only one person, in likely a similar time frame and even less energy expenditure.

Imagine how much faster it could be if they could make the furrow narrower :)

@@RickFisher Are you stupid? You don't think gravity can do half the work for you when you are putting in the effort to resist gravity for half the stroke? Have you ever been on a set of swings? Have you ever seen a thing called a pendulum? Christ some people really are simple aren't they....

@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE But.. you realise that you also have to input the energy to continue swinging.. especially if you're dragging against a surface.

Thanks! >How do you think the intricate granite sculptures were made? I think there are some of those, right? Take a look: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q_lHOoKlgc8.html

Went looking for this info, not surprised I found it. Diamond has been cut n polished with copper tools for a very long time. The abrasive is trick. Did they use the local sand or did they mine special sand? Beach sand is rounded, rough quartz sand better? Copper wire or string saws for the long cuts?

@@alwayscensored6871 We tried sawing with sandstone, wood with abrasive, bone with abrasive, rope with abrasive. The rope is constantly breaking. Corundum abrasive is certainly better than quartz sand. Surely the Egyptians knew the best ways )

​@Travigon One Now we are making a diorite vase. I don't think the statue is much more complicated.

So how's that "confirmation bias" working for you then........

I'm sure if you provide the funds for the block and the labour they would oblige.

Odds are mate, if the ancient masons made a mistake, they would have paid dearly for it, probably with their life. That's a great incentive to do it properly.

the pyramids weren't build by slaves. it was paid labour.

Out of all comments the one above me makes the most sense. Think about it

Kids, try this on the kitchen countertop. It's for science.

Anyone who could afford a real granite countertop isn't going to be that put out.

@@mnomadvfx My dad took out a mortgage on his house and used that money to buy the granite, then installed it by hand himself. Not only can he not afford to replace it, but you'd just break his heart by destroying all his hard work. 😥😁

😂🤣

​@@Pekkhum I guess copper tools are strictly forbidden at your home, haha! ;)

It would probably take thousands of manhours to achieve such a feat. It will probably never be achieved. The Egyptians had expert craftsmen who dedicated their lives to their craft and probably spent all hours of most days working on these artefacts. We don't need to reproduce them entirely to show that it is possible. This is because the 'lost technology' theories rely entirely on the argument that the artefects are not possible using bronze age technology. These kind of videos show it was possible. Remember the Egyptian stonemasons would have decades of experience and would have worked at far higher levels of sophistication than what is shown here. The point is that it is possible to cut granite and with high precision, as this and others have shown. We still don't know exactly how Stonehenge was built, but we don't need to rebuild a replica using neolithic tools to show it was possible. That's an impossible standard of evidence that is designed, I suspect, to just keep raising the bar every time ancient technology is shown to be more capable than some people imagine.

woden1809 I just wonder why they made things with such ease, and in such an enormous scale, the giant crazy heavy granite pilars wich they found a way to move out of the quarry, insanly precise symetrical statues and stone cut so thin it’s almost unbeliveable it did not break I think showing how much time it takes to build a big stone box by hand will be important to show not only the how sceptics says it could be made but also how they would do the precision work But how about making the Schist disc then? Then I would be really impressed

Fåvne 83 schist is a 3.5-4 on the moh scale, so softer than slate, which means that it would be very easily carved as long as it would hold together. I carve slate all the time (albiet with steel tools, but could as easily move it with flint, granite, or jade) This is not to undermine the craftsmanship of the artist who base this piece. It is undeniably a high order achievement. Perfect planes and tedious work.

@@wodenravens None of these videos prove that high precision can be achieved with these primitive tools. THAT is the gist of the entire "ancient high technology" argument! It's also the ONE thing never addressed! I'm not a believer one way or the other but if you can't seem to address the BIG mystery then you have proven nothing. What is required is to either prove the evidence of ancient high precision is wrong or to reproduce it with known ancient tools. Anything else is just pointless video making.

@@clydecourtney994 This is how the goalposts shift. At first it's the sheer force anf speed required. When that is shown to be possible the claims must retreat to precision. But, pray tell, what precision is impossible using this method?

And where did the egyptians plugged in the electric stone saw? Did they have wind turbines? I've cut a lot of tiles with it, it's a dirty job, it itches the skin, but you make quick progress.

ma quando ? vasi scavati internamente di basalto e iscrizioni perfette su 4 lati degli obelischi , insomma dovete far la pace con voi stessi e vedere chge tra antico e nuovo regno le tecniche sono diverse , vai a scolpire la statua di Ramses cosi e poi vediamo ..-....

@@regorgamer8103 since you posted in Italian, I will post in Portuguese. E daí? O que está sendo mostrado é que todas coisas ditas impossíveis podem ser feitas com tecnologia simples. Só tem que se dedicar a pensar como, ao invés do atalho preguiçoso de achar que era tecnologia moderna e misteriosa sendo usada no passado. Não importa o que mostrarem e o que fizerem, sempre vai ter alguém como você dizendo: "ah, mas isso não mostra como tal corte em tal lugar foi feito!"

@@rogeriopenna9014 non insegnarmi nulla sapientone , le prove evidenziate valgono meno delle prove evidente a mio parere.. e io non sono qualcuno che fa bla bla , ma una persona che ragiona, tu che ragionamento semplicistico fai , senza provarlo , chi è arrogante qui ?''

@@regorgamer8103 You are NOT someone who thinks. You are using an argument from ignorance fallacy. There is NO EVIDENCE of ancient high technology. In fact, most of what people call "evidence" does not even make sense from a high technological civilization standpoint. Simplistic thinking??? What simplistic thinking? The simplistic thinking is ALWAYS on the side of those who think "we don´t know how something was done, therefore, god, or aliens, or ancient high tech". Then we DO have modern people showing how it was done. But in typical foolish "I want to believe" fashion, you simply start moving goals posts. EVERYTHING the guys have shown on this channel you simply overlook, then find a specific video of something you think does not explain something you think is misterious and say "AHA! You haven´t disproved it's ancient high tech!!" Go look at the other videos. Like that one where they totally debunked those granite cilinders!

@@regorgamer8103 Btw, are you a samnite descendant and are still butthurt the Rome beat your ancestors a few times until completely destroying them after the Social War? Only that would explain your lack of appreciation for the things Romans could do, like the megaliths at Baalbek Temple of Jupiter.

Yes they did. But not for everything

Those copper tools have been found. You think aliens left them?

I also think we have more questions than answers: how much time would it take to cut all the stones, that are MUCH bigger than this? Not mentioning the transportation, lifting, placing and adjusting. And where is the structural project? But that was a nice try.

Even if they use this sawing granite method, how long should it have taken to cut one big granite block, and how many blocks are there.😢. How much man power it needs. I think they might had advanced technology than this. How can we underestimate the ancient Egyptians technology and knowledge. Without knowing. That's a lost civiliezed world .😊

OMG. Stop the stupid fantasies.

Perhaps. The primary tool of the ancient Egyptians was not bronze however = but stone. Egyptologists have found all over Egypt gneiss stone tools such as flint etc. as you alluded to. Bronze tools would be more specialized in their use and as they represented a more expensive outlay for the craftsmen = cheaper stone tools would be their primary implements. As an aside. Why drill holes in blocks?? One does not see them very commonly - and sometimes they are found in what appear to be in not very useful places. So the most plausible explanation is that for structures which contained wooden framing such as for a roof or perhaps gates one would drill holes in blocks to accommodate wooden posts. Wood of course in a desert environment would be valuable - even "old wood" - and thus the wood framing was scavenged long ago leaving only blocks with holes drilled in them. As the Egyptians sometimes "recycled" stone to build something new then former temples etc. which were destroyed saw these blocks repurposed to build something else. It is cheaper to tear down an old temple and reuse its' blocks than to obtain newly quarried stone blocks.

This is about decorative cuts at Karnak Temple: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i8ZHYWle0DE.html Large blocks were not cut

@@ScientistsAgainstMyths Theres still a whole range of stuff around the world that you scientists have absolutely no idea about how some of these things were achieved, just at the Gaza plateau alone there are mysteries that cannot be explained. I just have a problem with all these comments that say, ahh yeah everything is solved now, we know exactly how everything was achieved. "Thankyou video I can rest in the knowledge everything has been explained" That's my point. We dont even know the hardness of the granite they are cutting, the time it took to make that little cut? Yes we can see that the experiment and tools they use, cut granite. Okay great, there are still many things all over this planet, no one has any clue about how it was achieved and what was used.

@@ScientistsAgainstMyths Also there are many huge blocks with cut Mark's, drill holes and drilling marks. Huge gauge Mark's you can see aswell. You think they were all split and prised apart yeah. Your wrong.

My friend, do you want one experiment to explain everything? It doesn't happen. We are gradually posting videos of our various experiments on this channel.

@Question Everything it proves that it CAN be done, Yes it's hard work, did he do it the most efficient way? Almost certainly not, but hey, he's not bad for a beginner! Come back in year or so and he will breeze through that with the knowledge and experience built up in that time, If he were to learn the skills from his father and do it for 20 years and pass those skills down the generations, just think what his great, great, great grandson could achieve, Everything has to be instant these days, no one has time to spend to do someting that is slow and difficult... But back then there wasn't much choice

Well ,all first civilization have the same materials to work: wood, stone , rocks, some metals, so use big rock its not so strange

@@noway8233 you didn't answer his question. GTFOH

@@johngregg9187 he did. we are all one species. It's not that hard to believe. and the similarities are not all insane. usually just, "ooh pyramid all over world."

@@aeazfh1800 no,he didn't answer the question.having same materials doesn't mean all civilizations will use the same technology.if you watch closely you will notice that machu picchu stones and pyramid stones are identical.the stones look like they were melted together.that means one technology was used for pyramids and for Machu picchu as well.that implies that in ancient times there was already a civilization which travelled the whole world.the problem people have today is that they don't want to accept that we are not THE modern civilization.in my opinion there were already far more advanced civilizations before us.

I agree when I went to the coliseum the guide said the Romans were moving thier massive Columbus with elephants but many would die during the task. Where is the endless supply of elephants in those south American mountains? Remember the Romans had to sail to africa to get em and bring em back with other animals ( giraffes were a favourite I was told ) to fight in the coliseum. How did they do it south America? Is a valid question

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Stop it its aftican

Lol this is not the method. Look at Valley of The Kings and tell me this is how they did it. Not saying Aliens, but this aint it.

Thank you guys! Now we are preparing a new cool video. Especially for UnchartedX and other similar channels

@Daver G thanks for the idea

Once you post links to these videos he will shadow ban you, any comments you make on his channel will no longer appear to anyone else but you. He has to censor his channel to keep the mystery, it's pathetic.

@@MrRecklessryan thanks for the heads up!

Uncharted X it's a fraud who will ban people posting such thing, because he is protecting his profits.... I asked him to a debate and he banned me...