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Camp Sumter, commonly known as Andersonville, was a Confederate Prisoner of war camp during the American Civil War. It opened in February of 1864 and soon became hell on earth. It was packed with thousands of Union prisoners throughout its operation. At its height, Andersonville held 33,000 prisoners and held 45,000 total through out the duration of the camps existance. Almost 13,000 prisoners would die while at Andersonville. An average, 100 prisoners would die a day. The prisoners had little food, no shelter and suffered from numerous diseases such as scurvy, diarrhea and dysentery. Prison camps on both sides suffered from deplorable conditions during this time. However, Andersonville remains notorious due to its high death rate. Andersonville would finally be liberated in May of 1865.
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@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 2 года назад
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@eddieboggs8306
@eddieboggs8306 2 месяца назад
Who wins the war writes the history books.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 2 месяца назад
That’s true in most cases. The civil war is the exception. The south was allowed to rewrite the narrative and the “Lost Cause” is still something we deal with today.
@user-oz7pu1nf6f
@user-oz7pu1nf6f Год назад
This video is the most thorough account of Andersonville I have seen on RU-vid. Thank you for the Experience. I really enjoy your visits to the war museums and historical war sites. Your passion for history explodes onto the screen. Keep it up. I hope more history enthusiasts get to experience your videos.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
I really appreciate the feedback. I love history and I learn new things in every video. Got lots more on the way! Thanks for watching!
@DustinWiseM1
@DustinWiseM1 Месяц назад
Can’t imagine the atrocities and conditions there at Andersonville and other camps. Great video showing us an overview of the camp and surrounding area
@donwest259
@donwest259 11 месяцев назад
want to visit here someday. my great great grandfather John West was a survivor of andersonville . thanks so much for this post
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your family’s past. Glad to hear you enjoyed the video
@Snowboarder16
@Snowboarder16 3 месяца назад
What state was he from? My relative was 76th New York
@travisbayles870
@travisbayles870 Год назад
I had a Confederate ancestor in the 62nd North Carolina Infantry named Private D S McCracken and after his capture at Cumberland Gap October 1863 he was sent to Camp Douglas where he remained until his death in July 1864 Confederate Prisoners called Camp Douglas 80 acres of Hell
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
Thanks for sharing your family’s story. The prison camps during this war were just awful. Thanks for watching.
@travisbayles870
@travisbayles870 Год назад
@@ProjectPast1565 youre most welcome
@virginiaturner1260
@virginiaturner1260 Месяц назад
Let's be fair. There were horrific prisons on both sides.
@travisbayles870
@travisbayles870 Месяц назад
@virginiaturner1260 I never said there weren't bad prisons on both sides Both the Union and the Confederacy were completely unprepared for the war and this also included the welfare of prisoners and how they would be taken care of
@virginiaturner1260
@virginiaturner1260 Месяц назад
@@travisbayles870 Which is more proof that northern prison camps were just as horrible, if not worse, than Confederate prisons.
@lthom5158
@lthom5158 2 года назад
Exceptionally good video! I’ve watched several good Andersonville videos, but your narration, the interspersed photos, and the aerial shots brought the Andersonville story to life. Keep up the great work!
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 2 года назад
Thanks for the kind words and I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Your support is greatly appreciated.
@tnphotobug
@tnphotobug 2 года назад
Very nice video! My wife and I had the privilege of visiting Andersonville in person last year, and your video brought back a lot of memories for me...especially of the horror and solemnity of the place. Definitely hallowed grounds. Thanks for sharing.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 2 года назад
I had an amazing visit there. Learned so much. It was slightly eerie as well. Thanks for watching and I’m glad you enjoyed the video.
@stevenkling9825
@stevenkling9825 3 дня назад
I visited the Andersonville prison back in the 90s,a humbling experience,,a must see,
@janupczak1643
@janupczak1643 2 года назад
I've watched many hours of docs and videos at/about Andersonville. I have to say yours is the best I've seen. You did a remarkable job of not only telling the story, but you truly took us there. Thank you for sharing this experience. I could feel the enormous gravitas and tragic pain of these poor souls....
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 2 года назад
Wow. That means a lot and thank you for the kind words. Im so happy you enjoyed it and I appreciate you watching. I learned a ton from this visit.
@juttafaust
@juttafaust Год назад
My husband and I visited the site yesterday, and I found your report tonight. We are really impressed by your work. Thank you very much.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
Thanks for watching and I’m glad you got to see the site for yourself. It’s a powerful place.
@ericlindsey7751
@ericlindsey7751 10 месяцев назад
There is actually a movie called Andersonville here on RU-vid, it is a great movie that explains and follows the plight of the men involved.
@WesleyOrshoski
@WesleyOrshoski 5 месяцев назад
I love history. And this was a neat story. Thank you for the info. I'm born and raised on Georgia. Love my state. And love the south. Never forget our history
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 5 месяцев назад
I appreciate you watching! History is our greatest teacher.
@65U512
@65U512 Год назад
Great video, editing, and narration
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
Thanks! Appreciate you watching!
@kanderson2145
@kanderson2145 Год назад
Outstanding presentation. Thank you.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it.
@johnguzzi8905
@johnguzzi8905 3 месяца назад
I just recently rewatched "The Andersonville trial with William Shatner and Buddy Epson. Great T.V. play! Everyone who enjoyed this should check It out. This video is equally impressive. Bravo!
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 3 месяца назад
Thanks for watching and thanks for the kind words.
@HistorySavior1941
@HistorySavior1941 Год назад
Watched this several times but I do agree…it should have been called the stinks. Headed here soon!
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
Another classic moment of me looking at something and saying a completely different word 😂. It’s a very powerful place.
@HistorySavior1941
@HistorySavior1941 Год назад
I do it ALL the time lol. Can’t wait to go here. Hard to imagine what this ground looked like just over 150 years ago. Amazing that today it is silent….
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
@@HistorySavior1941 it was eerily peaceful. You definitely feel a little weird walking around there. The prison system in the civil war was just awful for both sides.
@TribeTaz
@TribeTaz День назад
Cant imagine how bad it was there. Great video
@davidarbuckle7236
@davidarbuckle7236 3 месяца назад
My Aunt Peg Sheppard was an Andersonville Historian who lived in Andersonville. She told me a story about a married couple who were captured by Confederate troops while celebrating the wedding on their boat that had been commandeered by Union Troops first and then discovered by Confederates while the Union Troops were attempting to pilfer supplies from a depot in South Carolina. The men were separated from the women in the wedding party and were taken to Andersonville. The bride concealed her identity as a woman and was able to remain with her husband. She became pregnant and successfully delivered and was discovered after the baby started crying and later she and the baby were removed from the Prison. Long Story short all three of them survived. I am interested in writing a Historical Fiction piece about this story. If anyone has information on this story or related stories that could provide a backdrop for the novel, please contact me, by leaving a message.
@DouglasLyons-yg3lv
@DouglasLyons-yg3lv 5 месяцев назад
Well done. Thanks.
@robertspecht1911
@robertspecht1911 Год назад
Good review. No one has ever mentioned that Lincoln had stopped the exchange do to the color soldiers not being exchanged. I had always heard that the Union knew it be harder on harder the Confederates to go without less troops. Never heard about the Springs as well.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
I’m sure that played into the decision as well. The spring was a really neat story.
@Snowboarder16
@Snowboarder16 3 месяца назад
My great great uncle, captured at wilderness, spent 6 months at Andersonville then was sent to Florence, SC where he died He was 17. Please visit Florence
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 3 месяца назад
Thanks for watching and for sharing your family’s story. I’ll add it to the list.
@Teetoy4
@Teetoy4 7 месяцев назад
My family is from Andersonville our land is only a block from the cemetery on Stanford Rd and we have land on Oscar Rd named after my great great grandfather. I will be retiring there in 2027
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing and for watching!
@Tom26NC
@Tom26NC 8 месяцев назад
Excellent video. You did quite the admirable job showing the prison and explaining it. I'd like to visit some day to pay my respects, and to learn more. My experience is that the most is learned and felt when you're there in person. It's pretty astounding that people in the comments are arguing over which side had worse camps/committed more heinous atrocities. That's not the point here. The prison camps in general were horrendous, and there were plenty of terrible factors that can apply to the captors on both sides. We should all be acknowledging the terrible cruelty both of war and of its prison camps, and trying to ensure that it doesn't happen again.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 8 месяцев назад
I appreciate the kind words. It’s a powerful place and I learned a ton. You hit the nail in the head. When you keep your personal biases out of a subject you tend to get more clarity and learn more. Both sides failed and committed terrible acts against their fellow man.
@chicagoeric969
@chicagoeric969 3 месяца назад
well done!
@stevefox7961
@stevefox7961 3 месяца назад
Thank you
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 3 месяца назад
Thanks for watching!
@NinianReid
@NinianReid Месяц назад
It was the era of heroes and villains. There's no denying this his was an extremely villainous chapter. It makes for a disturbing watch but is a worthy depiction of what happened. America's Civil War was Hell on Earth.
@leeblount7046
@leeblount7046 Год назад
Now do Camp Douglas or Elmira.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
I have every intention of doing so. Feel free to help cover my travel expenses and I’ll do both next week. My PayPal is linked below. Just because I covered Andersonville doesn’t mean I have a motive or some sort of agenda. It’s history. I can only cover one site at a time. www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=DB3FJELHC5HME
@lw47646
@lw47646 Месяц назад
I have a lot of information about this. My family member died at point lockout in 1864, and we have letters of the unsanitary conditions from the water, how they ate, and many MANY more facts of what they went through. If you are interested please message me. My family and I are well known to spread awareness of this camp.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Месяц назад
Yes! I would love to get more information. My email is projectpast1565@gmail.com
@timothycliburn5018
@timothycliburn5018 10 месяцев назад
Do a show on the POW camps up North during the War
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 10 месяцев назад
Plan on it. Thank for watching!
@peterschmidt7543
@peterschmidt7543 10 месяцев назад
Thanx x for sharing. In search for the origin’s of today worldwide spread word “deadline”
@michaelsix9684
@michaelsix9684 4 месяца назад
such a sad story
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 4 месяца назад
Indeed
@redseagaming7832
@redseagaming7832 Год назад
It was so bad that 1 Confederate wrote if THE Yankees Soldiers were to go to Andersonville and see it God have mercy on the land. Sherman's March was nearby They're enjoying the delicacies. They have forged from local farms when a few Union prisoners Escapes from Andersonville walk into the fire light. Which made the Union men sick and desiring for revenge
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
Couldn’t imagine being a POW during that time. War is such a terrible thing.
@broda81
@broda81 10 месяцев назад
Imust ask, im not from is or something, but yours cv its intredting topic. What happend to cofederate povs?
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 10 месяцев назад
Unfortunately, prisoners on both sides were mistreated and lived in terrible conditions
@broda81
@broda81 10 месяцев назад
@@ProjectPast1565 yeah i know even in our good times pov have hard days, and i know, winners make history, but why do hard find any information about this? Maybe in us is easier get some info, but in eu its jave no sense. Pov= anderssonville, allways.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 10 месяцев назад
Plenty of resources online about the mistreatment of confederate POWs. Elmira and camp Douglas were the most infamous on the Union side.
@broda81
@broda81 10 месяцев назад
@@ProjectPast1565 thx now i have some names to lookig for. Ty one more time and have a good day, week, and life.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 10 месяцев назад
Take care! Thanks for watching
@fixedimage.
@fixedimage. Год назад
Andersonville (confederate operated) and point lookout (union operated) were the two most brutal pow camps during the Civil War many men died at both we always hear about the battlefields but most people forget about the horrors of the pow camps.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
It’s an easy aspect of the war to forget about unfortunately. Prison camps on both sides were absolutely awful and full of suffering.
@savinghistory642
@savinghistory642 Год назад
My g'g'g' grandfather was captured at Gettysburg and sent to point lookout. The difference in the camps was that the north had the ability to do better by their prisoners and chose not to. The south did not have that ability. guards and prisoners alike ate the same rancid food and died from the same diseases because they had no choice. Please include this in your next video.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
I stated in the beginning that prison camps on both sides were known for awful conditions. The south had the ability to provide shelter and they didn’t. Andersonville is literally surrounded by woods. The Union’s ability to provide was also overwhelmed by the sheer number of prisoners. In conclusion, it was awful on both sides. War is a terrible thing.
@savinghistory642
@savinghistory642 Год назад
@@ProjectPast1565 Andersonville was overwhelmed by sick and injured prisoners. Though it was surrounded by trees, there were not enough Confederates to cut the trees, build a fence, cook, take care of the wounded and guard the prisoners. The prisoners were too sick to do much if any work. All of them-prisoner and guard-lived under the same conditions. The north had the resources and people. The war was not fought much in their area of the country The north had the ability to do better by the prisoners but chose not to. I know hating the South is quite fashionable these days but northerners are swarming down here everyday. Not many Southerners head north. We are happy where we are. The love of the land we were born on is in our DNA. Please tell the whole truth about the suffering in Civil War prison camps on both sides.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
I live in the south and certainly don’t hate it. This was my visit to Andersonville. I tell history as it is. Andersonville was awful just like prison camps on both sides. Feel free to donate to my mission to keep history live. I do this on my own dime and time. Northern camps are a 3 hour flight as opposed to a 3hr drive to Andersonville. I’ll gladly go to Elmira Prison. Stop assuming I’m only telling one side just because I haven’t made it to another site yet.
@bowlnow824
@bowlnow824 3 месяца назад
Watch the TV more here on youtube called Andersonvile. Not 100 percent accurate but a good movie overall
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 3 месяца назад
I saw it a while ago but definitely worth a rewatch! Thanks for watching.
@danielhansson4836
@danielhansson4836 Год назад
The name! Andersonville! Sounds like Swedish name! ?
@eddieboggs8306
@eddieboggs8306 4 месяца назад
Didn't the South offer to give the North the prisoners back? I heard that somewhere. The North wouldn't take them. Not sure but I have heard that.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 4 месяца назад
An agreement for resuming prisoner exchanges was reached in the winter of 1864 I believe but not the full resumption of the Dix-Hill Cartel.
@Snowboarder16
@Snowboarder16 3 месяца назад
Grant vetoed the idea as the South needed men where the North didnt
@eddieboggs8306
@eddieboggs8306 3 месяца назад
@@Snowboarder16 Makes sense.
@charlesbelser7249
@charlesbelser7249 Год назад
The northern prisons were much more brutal . They had food and blankets to provide but basically refused both starving and freezing to death confederate prisoners. The confederate soldiers guarding these union prisoners were just about starving themselves while the guards in the union prisons were getting fat and also selling much of the food that was intended for the prisoners. You need to talk about the union atrocities instead of conditions that were basically impossible to resolve at Andersonville with minimal available food.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
Well for starters, why do you automatically assume that I’m not going to tell the other side of the story? This is a video about Andersonville nothing more and nothing less. Andersonville is a quick 3 Hour drive from my house and I don’t know about you but I can only be in one spot at once. Much of the Northern prisons are in the Northeast, which is a several hour flight for me. When I’m in that area of the country, I will tell the story and the atrocities committed by the union in those prison camps. That’s not something that I’m trying to hide and I even mention it in the beginning of this video. Not everyone has an agenda, or some sort of one-sided view on history just because they covered a certain topic. It’s very ignorant to say one side was more guilty than the other, when you’re not the one suffering. Both sides committed atrocities towards their fellow man, and both sides suffered because of it. Here is some information to dispel some of the myths associated with the union purposefully starving confederate soldiers. www.nps.gov/ande/learn/historyculture/debateoverprisonsupplies.htm
@georgeeverette3912
@georgeeverette3912 Год назад
@@ProjectPast1565 My ancestor died at the Union Elmira POW camp, but the Anderson Pow camp was much worse. That being said the Elmira tragedy was preventable and the Anderson tragedy was may not have been. Gen. Lee was having to post guards on his troops horse feed to keep his starving soldiers from eating it. While the agricultural South could grow plenty of food, the ability to move it where it was needed became impossible as the rail system collapsed from equipment wearing out and being unable to replace it because of the blockage and the incessant Union raids and occupations of large parts of the logistical net. I hope you can make a trip up north and tell this story as well. You did an excellent telling of Andersonville.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
I would love to visit Elmira. It’s on the list. If and when I’m in that area I will definitely tell that story. Thanks for the feedback.
@savinghistory642
@savinghistory642 Год назад
Thank you for some truth but it will not sink in to the creator of this site. He just takes the low hanging fruit, repeats yankee propaganda and seems to do little research of his own.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
@@savinghistory642we need to write the American battlefield trust, national park service and the Smithsonian and let them know they are wrong and Savinghistory642 is the most enlightened individual of our time. How about you share your information if it’s so correct instead of trying to go on a crusade because I made a video about Andersonville. Oh and while we are at it what in my video was wrong?
@chrischristoferson1191
@chrischristoferson1191 Год назад
President Lincoln sure was an admirable man.
@savinghistory642
@savinghistory642 Год назад
Tell us about how Lincoln wrote that blacks would never be equal to whites or fit to hold office. Look it up. Google it.
@paulaharrisbaca4851
@paulaharrisbaca4851 11 месяцев назад
I don't think it had as much to do with race (after all, many slaves fought for the Confederacy) than it had to do with shortening the War. After all, the Confederacy had very limited numbers of men able to fight, while the Union Army had masses of German and Irish immigrants they could draw upon. Lincoln was more concerned with ending the War as fast as he could (kinda like our decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan) and the quickest way was to sacrifice the huge amounts of Yankees that the Confederacy captured but were totally unable to feed or take care of. And while the North actually DID have the wherewithal to feed the Confederate prisoners, they chose not to as a kind of revenge for the atrocities they knew full well were happening at Andersonville, with, I think some 15000 Yankees were crammed into a space only intended for about 6K men at most. The numbers may be worse, I am relying upon my memory. It's odd that some people are yelling about "reparations" for the descendants of slaves that aren't directly affected at this point, while the thousands and thousands of men on both sides died over the issue who stood nothing to gain and would be very disappointed to see how things worked out for black Americans once the Dixiecrats tricked them into going on welfare when they were already establishing themselves as middle class Americans. (As Thomas Sowell has often pointed out) And after that, they broke down black nuclear families in a way that the slavery system could never have done as efficiently by pretending to be looking out for their benefit. Nut if you don't vote Democrat, "you ain't black."
@davy1458
@davy1458 Год назад
Is your name John Paul M.? You like like a guy I went to school with.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
It is not. My name is James. He sounds like a great guy though
@travisbayles870
@travisbayles870 Год назад
I had a Confederate ancestor named Private D S McCracken of the 62nd North Carolina who was captured at Cumberland Gap in October 1863 and later sent as a POW to Camp Douglas where he remained until his death in July 1863
@mattfaulk8724
@mattfaulk8724 4 месяца назад
Union trying to starve the confederates, they could barely feed their own troops, much less POWS that they would rather not have to feed and guard. But no, union armies burn crops and raid to hurt the confederate army, failing to account for how to would impact POWS having food, and from what i remember, the Union prison was worse
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 4 месяца назад
Actually, One of the reasons Andersonville was selected as a prison site was because of its proximity to agricultural production. The food shortages in Richmond and in the army in Virginia would be avoided by placing the prison in the middle of the breadbasket of the Confederacy. In theory, this would protect the prison from being cut off from the rest of the country if rail lines were destroyed. However, this failed in practice because the Confederate military relied on local farmers and companies that were less than willing to do business with the Confederacy. Simply put, area farmers did not want to sell their crops to the military at fixed government prices in Confederate currency. Further complicating this was that many of the large planters in Georgia refused to produce foodstuffs and insisted on continuing to grow cotton, which only drove prices for food higher. In an effort to alleviate this and to feed the prison, a "tithe" was placed on all food production, and area farmers were required to give 10% of their food crop to the Confederate military. There was enough food and lumber in the area around Andersonville to greatly improve conditions, but because none of it was nationalized, the Confederate government could not get access to it. Accounts from some civilians and soldiers in the area describe warehouses of food that the owners wouldn't sell for anything except gold or greenbacks, leaving prisoners hungry, and forcing guards to purchase necessary supplies on their own. Both sides were wrong in arguing that they provided the best care that they could while criticizing the other for inadequate treatment. Both sides could have improved on their management techniques but didn’t. Both sides were wrong. That’s the real history. www.nps.gov/ande/learn/historyculture/debateoverprisonsupplies.htm
@veronicaarcos5652
@veronicaarcos5652 4 месяца назад
En castellano hablado 😡😈🇨🇱
@coup-contrecoup
@coup-contrecoup Год назад
Check out Sultana riverboat fire/accident. Imagine going through the war, captured, endured Andersonville then making in through the riverboat 'Titanic"Sultana tragedy.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
Yeah that story is absolutely devastating. I don’t know a whole lot about it but I couldn’t imagine making it through the war as a prisoner and then tragically dying on the way home.
@jimmyjimbojacko5736
@jimmyjimbojacko5736 Год назад
You cant classify yourself as an historian by espouting the erroneous -as facts- to please a specific group of the population. The main reason for the suspension of exchange was Grants insistance that the South couldnt replace their loss of soldiers and the exchange favored them, as the North readily replaced any losses both material and human. Also, that Andersonville sickest prisoners were taken to closest Union area to be dropped off as the South could no longer feed them. This in spite of the north refusing to trade. The union commander refused to accept these comrades who returned with the Southern escort. And, the starving, purposely in retaliation, of Southern pows. A larger percentage of Reb pows died than Yanks in the South
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
First off, welcome to the chat Captain Edgy. Second, at no point in this video, or any of my videos for that matter did I say I was a historian. I also don’t classify myself as one. So, I’m not really sure where you got that info from. I’m also not really sure where you got the info for the rest of your comment. But, I’ll include a few links as to where I got mine. Even though it’s just “Yankee propaganda”. I’ll start by saying this issue isn’t as simple as both sides portray it to be. It’s complex, uncomfortable and flat out sad. Saying one side refused to exchange prisoners all while ignoring the fact that one side refused to accept certain terms is ignorant. Both sides are equally as guilty. The Dix-Hill Cartel was signed on July 22, 1862. This was the first official system for exchanging prisoners. The system began to break down when the Confederates classified African-American prisoners of war as fugitive slaves, who should to be returned to their owners instead of being exchanged. On July 30, 1863, President Lincoln issued General Order 252, which effectively suspended the Dix-Hill Cartel until the Confederate forces agreed to treat black prisoners the same as white prisoners. At this time, Grant was in command of the armies out west and would have little say or to do with the prisoner exchange breakdown. Grant didn’t become “General in Chief” until March of 1864. In April, he ordered a continuation of the established policy on the basis of the Confederates mistreatment of African American soldiers. Now, the Manpower argument can also play into this decision as well. That’s an obvious fact. But not as much as you’d like it to be. The famous Grant quote I know you’ve read about "It is hard on our men held in Southern prisons not to exchange them, but it is humanity to those left in the ranks to fight our battles. Every man we hold, when released on parole or otherwise, becomes an active soldier against us at once either directly or indirectly. If we commence a system of exchange which liberates all prisoners taken, we will have to fight on until the whole South is exterminated….. And so on. This quote was made in August of 1864. A full year after the prisoner exchanges already broke down. At this time Andersonville had almost 30,000 prisoners already. Grant made it clear that he would support equal prisoner-for-prisoner exchange but not the full resumption of the Dix-Hill Cartel. Even if exchanges were resumed in late August 1864, Andersonville would still be the deadliest prison of the war with some 8,000 dead by that time. On April 17th, 4 months before Grants quote, Grant would write to General Benjamin Butler - who was negotiating a resumption of prisoner exchanges - that “the status of colored prisoners” was the priority. He ordered that Butler should communicate the non-negotiable demand that “no distinction whatever will be made in the exchange between white and colored prisoners,”. Here is another link for you to discredit. www.nps.gov/ande/learn/historyculture/grant-and-the-prisoner-exchange.htm Both sides tend to simplify what was happening in the Civil War prisons, and the causes of suffering were far more complicated than just simple vengeance or short supplies. Take Elmira for example, Most deaths at Elmira occurred as a result of pneumonia, smallpox, typhoid, and dysentery. Not starvation. Here is a link that dispels the myth of prisoners being starved on “purpose” as you put it. Now, I will say humans are imperfect and The Union was not the pillar of morality. I’m sure these instances happened in pockets on BOTH sides. Saying one side is more guilty than the other simply is just ignorant. Both were wrong, both could have done better and both simply did not. www.nps.gov/ande/learn/historyculture/debateoverprisonsupplies.htm Records indicate the capture of 211,411 Union soldiers, with 16,668 paroled and 30,218 died in captivity; of Confederate soldiers, 462,684 were captured, 247,769 paroled and 25,976 died in captivity. 194,743 union prisoners would not be paroled. 30,218 would die in captivity. That’s a death rate of 15% 214,915 CSA prisoners would not be paroled. 25,976 would die. That’s a death rate of 12%. Not sure where you got your numbers from. Again, both of these figures is sickening and BOTH had prisons that were downright awful.
@savinghistory642
@savinghistory642 Год назад
Why did you not mention that Grant held slaves even as he was fighting the South and that he and other Northerners were allowed to keep their slaves AFTER the War? Doesn't fit your narrative? The EP only freed slaves in the rebellious states. The North is more guilty of war crimes against POWs as they had the ability to do better and did not out of spite and hatred for the Confederacy.@@ProjectPast1565
@andrewc2491
@andrewc2491 11 месяцев назад
@@ProjectPast1565 Wherever the truth is with regard to Andersonville...one thing is true enough "CAPTAIN EDGY" seems to be a SPOT ON characterization, lol.
@Snowboarder16
@Snowboarder16 3 месяца назад
You are exactly right it was Grant who refused to exchange
@billrivenbark8983
@billrivenbark8983 Год назад
Learn about the Union POW camps. They were just as bad.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
Yup, stated that in the video. I have every intention going to Elmira.
@savinghistory642
@savinghistory642 Год назад
Maybe you should have gone there on your own dime instead of trying to get money from trashing the South. If Andersonville is so close why not go to Roswell Mills?@@ProjectPast1565
@catrinaciccone6945
@catrinaciccone6945 Год назад
BS!
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
Care to elaborate why?
@savinghistory642
@savinghistory642 Год назад
Because Southerners have lived with the stories of the War. You seem to watch some PBS show then post whatever you heard. Nothing original here. 1565 was when St. Augustine was founded. How does it figure in the civil war? Please do not go to St. Augustine. It is a Catholic city and the Spaniards defended it with lethal force against Protestants, Indians and yankees. Florida never surrendered it's flag to the North. There I just gave you your next armchair post.. I cannot imagine how you will trash that. @@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
The st Augustine Blues we’re part of the 3rd Florida. I visited their location on Shy’s Hill in Nashville. Learned a ton. A handful are buried in St Augustine. That’s how it factors in the Civil War. I wasn’t aware that the location in which you lived factored into learning about the civil war. But hey what do I know. One day I’ll reach your level of enlightenment.
@savinghistory642
@savinghistory642 Год назад
Never said St. Augustine had no part in the War. Just wondering why you chose the year it was founded as part of your name. St. Augustine is sacred to me and I do not want it besmirched with untruths for money.@@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
@@savinghistory642 I live there and you literally asked how St Augustine figured into the Civil War in your last weird comment. I’m going to watch some PBS to make more posts you don’t agree with.
@dennisoravetz9171
@dennisoravetz9171 Год назад
Them should talk about both in the same breath. Not slant one over another.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
That’s the very thing you’re doing in your last comment. Both sides had awful camps and both sides were equally as guilty of neglect.
@savinghistory642
@savinghistory642 Год назад
Having it and not giving it is neglect. That is what the North did to Confederates. Not having enough but still sharing it is what the South did with Northern POWs. There is a difference.@@ProjectPast1565
@dennisoravetz9171
@dennisoravetz9171 Год назад
The UNION HAD THERE ANDERSONS TOO . IF THE CONFEDERATES WON THE WAR THEY WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT UNION PRISONS.
@ProjectPast1565
@ProjectPast1565 Год назад
Of course they did. They do talk about the Union prisons. A simple google search will bring up tons of information about prisons on both sides. That’s not something that’s hidden. I even mention in this video how camps on both sides were awful.
@bcreech17
@bcreech17 Год назад
The Union didn’t have any camps with conditions and mortality rate as strikingly high as Andersonville, BUT I am firmly in the camp (no pun intended) of opinion that Andersonville was absolutely NOT as hellish as it was out of malice. Instead, it was a combination of factors such as lack of industrialization and resources, lack of funding, poor location (albeit because of the squeeze and constant subtraction of CSA-controlled territory), and the simple fact that the Union vastly outnumbered the CSA with men.
@francescurriden4640
@francescurriden4640 Год назад
Lookin union sites .Pea Patch Islad / Fort Delaware .
@ptccombatfitness6726
@ptccombatfitness6726 Год назад
​@@bcreech17 Yes they did. Camp Douglas. Andersonville was so bad the guards were also starving.
@irockuroll60
@irockuroll60 6 месяцев назад
⁠@@ptccombatfitness6726the south was starving. I read an account of a dude from Tennessee fighting with Johnston/Hood in 1864 that was living on an onion a day for a few weeks
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