These commentators are morons to a man. They are incapable of any original thought. They simply repeat tired old phrases that they've heard some big boys using. They are terrified of change.
We are supposed to believe our glorious leaders because they know best, don'cha know. They are never corrupt, never lie and never make mistakes... If we don't trust them, it's because we are faaaaaaaaaar right and "conspiracy theorists".
Have you ever heard of "the argument from popularity"? It's a logical fallacy, because the mob can be wrong...Saying something is right because it is popular is stupid, and often demonstrably wrong. Other things that have been popular throughout history: Pilliaging, Rape, Slavery, Genocide, Witch burnings, Communism, Pogroms...I could carry on.
Poplar music good. Popular politics bad. Democracy reflecting the will of the people -bad. I never ever thought I would see the day when democracy would silence, suppress and cow the English and openly fail.
When during the Korean War the South was about to fall to the Chinese, a tanker loaded with fuel evacuated thousands of Koreans in one fell swoop.(through a minefield) Deportation does not have to be expensive!! No need to build houses for them in Rwanda either!!
Never thought Neal would jump on that old bandwagon that if you raise concerns about immigration or the cost of net zero your some kind of far right nutjob disappointed in him
What the hell do these Governments expect.? Continually ignoring the views of the electorate majority has its consequences. Also branding as “far right” politicians who for obvious reasons have an agenda that questions this authoritarian “to hell with you” attitude actually backfires because while in some cases this is probably true it doesn’t apply to all and the people can see through this charade.
The term 'racist' has been so overused it has no meaning any more. 'Far Right', meant to imply echoes of 1930s Germany is becoming similarly ineffective and meaningless. Far Right is now anyone who isn't a Neo Liberal. Which is most people.
@@jugbywellington1134 I've always considered Neil as a UK establishment gatekeeper. He is part of the control apparatus behind the puppet show of the Uniparty political system. His job is to keep the debate within a pre-set framework so real change never happens.
Concerned citizens are not Far Right or any other political trope used to brand them. THEY ARE JUST CONCERNED CITIZENS, worried for their families/children/country 🤬🤬🤬.
I hate this branding it is to demonise and silence us- I was a middle class ‘nice’ person, now because of what I have seen and experienced I would be far right marching with Steven Yaxley- to protect our girls being abused blatantly and because of being called racist and allowing rape of children to happen over 20 years because of P C - so far right and angry I am - don’t get me started on housing !!!!
@@mrror8933 We didn't have anyone else to implement Brexit except the politicians. Prime Minister May spent three whole years 2016-2019 avoiding doing Brexit, aided by her civil service chiefs, then Boris had a chance with a landslide election victory on the policy to get Brexit done. Then covid came along.
@@routeman680and in that statement you have the exact fault of it all ,those in charge didn't want or do what the majority voted for and that's all you need to know
Quick reminder that there is no upper limit to diversity. You'll just be endlessly told things are too White until you wake up one day to something between Mogadishu and Karachi.
I think the turning point was probably around Trump and Brexit time. I think didn't see those things coming - and it really threw him. What with him calling for restrictions on people who do not wish to take a highly experimental drug - I think that really showed his true colours.
Brexit was supposed to have addressed the topic of mass immigration and the Tories failed miserably to implement any measures to address the problem. I don’t see how this can be another election on this issue when Labour don’t give a 💩 about how many people arrive unannounced. Britain needs a third option. The two party state is broken and Britain is disappearing before our eyes.
Most people I know will be voting reform. We just need anyone with common sense who cares about our future to also vote Reform. There are no other options to avoid the cliff edge we are running towards
Yes, and it's frustrating to think people think it highlights issues with Brexit. In fact, if a dedicated Brexit party was brought forward to handle it we would be in a very different situation. May, Boris and Sunak have been a trilogy of Tory shits.
The flaw in UK democratic system is that if the 2 main parties agree on a policy like net carbon zero or migration there isn't much the electorate can do about it. You can get rid of 1 of the 2 parties but the other one will do it anyway.
Yes, and he also mentioned them as "kids" just to cause sympathy on the criminals. The french boy who was stabbed to death was called Thomas, he was only 15. There was a festival on the small town he lived, and he went to that party. Then a group of migrants showed up with knives and yelled to everyone there" we are here to kill whites" ... so they stabbed unarmed civillians and Thomas died! And this comentator was shocked this crime caused so much protesting amongst the french? Really? I guess if Thomas was his grandchild, he would protest too!
Populism seems to align with indigenous peoples needs to a large extent. Brexit was about bringing sovereignty back to parliament so Andrew focusing on economic aspects is the perennial straw man brexit argument
And let's not forget that Brexit has been despatately mishandled by a party for which large swathes held nothing but contempt for Brexit. Brexit should have been conducted by a dedicated party that believed in it.
Trump was right about NATO and about Germany's reliance on Russian oil and gas. They laughed at him. Orange man was right. We are only disillusioned with Brexit because it hasn't been fully implemented. We are doing well when you compare with many EU countries.
One of the top issues, that worries the masses, is personal transport, that is mainly I.C.E cars and motorcycles. Any populist party who comes out as pro motorist is probably onto a winner.
Perhaps it is time to bring back National Service. Not to give working class yobs a sense of discipline but to force the elites meet people not of their class. The Post War Consensus has ended as elites are too far distanced from the general population. They seem to believe that they earned their position in life entirely through merit. Those less fortunate (if they are white working class) only have to work hard to go to Oxbridge and some how suddenly have all their family networking links. It is a lot harder to look down on people when you are forced to spend extended periods of time with them and share hardships.
'Populist right' also known as what the majority want or democracy. However the definition of 'right wing' has little meaning in this context because the economic policies of the current Italian government (described as far right) are left wing (big government, state intervention etc). Wanting strong borders and consider net zero policies to be ruiness to Europe are not unique to right wing voters.
Yes, it's because they can't bring themselves to admit that it's pure democracy. They hate when the public express their view and don't just do what they are told by their betters.
Andrew Neil says Britain can no longer give leadership in the EU now that we’re out ! ……When were we ever allowed any where near that leadership ? I must have blinked and missed it !!
Worth noting: Donald Tusk's Civic Platform won partially because they campaigned to the right of the former ruling party on issues such as immigration and economic populism/nationalism. Tusk explicitly criticized the then-ruling party for bringing in too many migrants from Muslim countries. He, and other members of his coalition, also criticized the government for privatizing certain assets to foreign investors, e.g. the oil refinery in Gdańsk was sold to Saudi Arabia.
Republic -> Latin: " Res Publica" that means "People's Matter / Public Matter" Its also the word "Politican", "Public" and also "Police" came from So acting in the interests of the issues expressed by the people and taking them seriously (POPULISM) is what a republic is all about! -> Who ever want to talk you out of that , is the issue.
No one with any sense of history and the importance of the nation state to the people of any given country can fail to recognise the increased distrust for those in politics today who seem to be serving their own agendas rather than the people they are there to represent by responding to their concerns, among which are the failures to regulate immigration and the economy. It is ironic that these concerns should find themselves labelled by today's politically employed as "populist" or "far right", as if the latter see their position as loftily above the mere worries of ordinary folk. We know the EU was born from a deceit that planned a federal entity that was to be kept from the people until it was too late for them to do anything about it - a description used by one of the founder advocates of this latter-day empire. But open borders was always going to be "pie in the sky" for the problems and downright threats it presented. If it is populist and far right to understand this basic reality, then so be it! Those terms are trotted out to suit elitist views far removed from what is as plain as the nose on your face. The pie in the sky has become egg on their smug manipulative faces and they;ll be the last to admit it.
You know what you need to do: Vote Reform UK And, visit the UK parliament petition website and please sign and share this one: "Close the borders! Suspend ALL immigration for 5 years." Please share petition far and wide - we need to shock government into doing the will of the people 👍
I would appreciate analysis when I come to the Spectator. Instead I get MI6 handwringing and downtalk from our masters. Brexit was betrayed by its enemies the British civil service and the EU leadership. Don’t lose sight of that when you talk of disappointment and betrayals.
After the Second World War western Europe was revived with American money, but at the price of giving up its Empires and place in the World. In Germany they imported millions of Turks since they lost some 10 million men in the war. In Britain and France they started importing people from their former colonies. in Britain's case they were mostly people from the Carabean islands who were black Christians, while in France it was mostly people from the Maghreb area who were Muslims. Women's rights meant that women started to join the workforce en masse and this helped the economy, since there was no scarcity of labour and more money available for the family to spend on consumer products which boomed in Europe in the 1950's and 1960's. However, with women joining the workforce they started having less children meaning the countries of Western Europe would have to import workers to fuel the consumer economy. This happened even in catholic countries like Italy and Spain were once large families were the norm. Coupled with these the sexual revolution meant a destruction of the traditional family and worse of all the decline of religion with all its values. Film stars and singers took the roles that priests, teachers and parents once had and even the role of God. With the fall of Communism in the 1990's the migrants came for most of the 1990's from Eastern Europe which while depleting the population of Eastern Europe it also helped their economies as migrants sent a lot of money back home. With the Eastern Europe tap now saturated the Western economies started looking at the World to import migrants. This was Blair's policy un England and his economy was so succesful it made him the most popular man in Britain and the conservatives could not touch him. His plan was followed by others who saw that importing people would boost the economy. Now the only way Europeans know how to boost the economy is by importing people. In fact Europe lags behind both America and Asia when it comes to new industries. Just look at Covid the EU countries did not even produce one vaccina and used 3 vaccines produced in America nad one in Brexit England. Even Russia had a vaccine. This is the situation now and until Western leaders come out with a plan on how to boost economies without importing people this situation will continue. Yes the right might win some elections , but once in government if it can't boost the economy they will be voted off.
By now everyone realises net zero is one big con. Every weather event, whether exceptional or not, being used to promote climate change and controls over peoples freedoms are being implemented everywhere, much being brought in undemocratically by the UK 100 councils acting as agents for the WEF , UN and IPCC . The promise of cheap energy has been shown to be part of that con as prices soared. Much of the infrastructure needed for energy have been outsourced to China and other nations to the detrimnent of UK jobs. Net zero is nothing more than a race to nowhere that is costing the public dear. Never any comeback on the disciples that spread the nonsense, after all claims that Maldives would be underwater (2018) Sea levels would engulf cities when often it is land sinking that causes issues with measurements, 8 years to save planet in 2009 , No ice in the Artic by 2018 ... I could go on .
Im an American, but its so sad to watch Europe committing slow-motion cultural suicide. There's almost no energy or pride left. And I am sorry, but Europe has ridden American defense coat-tails for decades while spending those funds on social programs. That must stop. Even the Russian invasion of Ukraine hasn't made many of them get their defense house in order.
Think about it ?????? Democracy is choosing leaders because they say they will do what the people want. If the people are 'turning to the right' that is proving that the politicians in power have failed. Are Populist & Democracy much the same ?????
Lol...Still listening to Andrei Neil? The guy who was so out of his mind on ego that he couldn't see his own TV channel get whipped out from underneath him, even as people were telling him that was exactly what was going to happen? Goes to show how much effort the Spectator expends (or rather saves) when it comes to assessing the quality of their sources.
What is it with Andrew Neil saying Brexit was a failure. We never got the full Brexit, only a watered-down version just as the political class wanted. The sad story of why the UK is the mess its is not Brexit but the poor and gutless leadership in the UK.
Andrew Neil...privileged individual who has no idea where this populism has come from. Put him on a council estate in Hartlepool for a year to get a grip of reality.
In the ununited kingdom all we need is a good Conservative government! Not the garbage we have now! Simple. Uncomplicated. Not populism. Conservatism. It is what it says! Vote X Reform.
Immigration is a huge problem but so is the changing climate. If only there was a political party that embraced problems instead of the Left who want more immigration and the Right who deny climate.
If being anti mass immigration makes you far or exteme right, rhen most of the country is. This constant use of the terms isgetring rather dull and predictable now
The people in power know the underlying feeling in the UK, they are too apathetic to do anything about it, they want their all-expenses-paid gravy train to trundle on forever.
Who are these blokes...your in this position because of left politics and immigration.. .nato and zelinsky big problem .these blokes should move to iran with thier wives...
I'm not sure how to feel when I watch a British Nationalist, a supposed patriot, yearning for a French leader without even the slightest flinch of self-awareness. It shows that not even your national pride has any real depth to it.
@@michaelcoward1902 can you really blame them who in their right mind would vote for any of the main parties they have killed the spirit of the British public with all this immigration it does not work you only have to see what has been happening here
The real question is, what percentage was implemented? No more than 40%, in my opinion. Voters are responsible for it. Why are you going to give the implementation powers to people who didn't believe in it in the first place ? Mama Mia, voters are nuts
On the subject of mass immigration into Europe, just what, exactly, is the Left's position? They call Marine Le Pen "far right", mainly because she wants to put an end to Muslim immigration. But what's "far right" about that? Surely it's perfectly sane to want to put an end to what is effectively open-borders into Europe? As things stand, the UN Convention rules that any person, from anywhere on the planet, can come to Europe and claim "asylum", and we in Europe must listen to his claim and put ourselves on the hook for his upkeep. If that is not stopped, then Europe will, in time, become a Muslim majority state. That's not alarmist. Over 90% of migrants to Europe are Muslim, and they will not stop coming. Is that what the Left want?
You need to realise, that the ones fascilitating and allowing all this 3rd world migration into Europe - our politicians and governments - are in fact the extremists.
Yes it's what they want. It's a revolutionary instinct. They want to overthrow "the system" because they think that they will be the vanguard of what replaces it. It's the parable of the "useful idiots" but, sadly for them, the French revolution is more applicable, and they'll quickly be on the chopping block. As the old saying goes "the revolution always eats its own".
Originally the left were against immigration because it means employers can bring in foreign workers to undercut indigenous workers, the right wing wanted immigration so that employers could do just that. Somehow the ruling class have managed to trick the left wing into supporting the rights of employers to bring in cheap Labour. It really has to be the biggest political coup in the history of the world, now both mainstream left and right parties support the rights of employers above those of workers.
100% correct - the unspoken issue is the rate at which Muslims Breed - 1 million becomes 20 million after 40 years (simple maths).....our Leaders in the West have been a disgrace for he past 25 years......the WEF makes them do it.
By middle class supposedly intelligent people who have zero connection with ordinary people. Neil just about sums that up. Full of pontificating bs and self interest. His views on vaccine mandates just about summarises where he’s at. Can’t stand the fella.
There is no structure to 'the working class' anymore. There used to be trades with apprenticeships, chargehands, foremen, Union reps- all of whom were respected. Now - not so much... an amalgam of ununionised, insecure low paid and gig economy. Unstable and, IMHO, dangerously open to the effects of unscrupulous media - both social and mainstream.
But Britain was built by immigration. And depends on it for vital workers. The government is unwilling to invest in training because that would mean raising taxes!
@@PeterOzanne By a great majority it was white, Christian, European immigration. One generator down they were indistinguishable from the existing population + they weren't playing the victim to get concession after concession nor did they approve of religious changes to impose new religious regulations.
@@spex357 I'm talking post WW2, black Caribbean and African: they did the jobs others wouldn't. Now there's a lot of Asians who work in healthcare, who we couldn't do without! ☺️
@@mikosapps2476 I was referring mainly to the time since WW2. The large majority in the 50s and 60s who helped rebuild Britain were black, and had no religious angle at all. In the last couple of decades, the Indian, Philippine, and other Asian immigrants fill positions in healthcare for example, without whom the system would collapse.
Quite: "democracy" = rule by the people (demos = the people in Greek); "popularism" = "political movement appealing to the majority of the people" (from Latin populus, "the people").
Because we are making the "wrong" choices, and this annoys our controllers. If, however, the likes of Bliar, Trudeau and Clinton want something, you should choose the opposite.
Simply because it threatens the "We know best" attitude held by so many of today's politicos who are disciplies of even wider control than that available via the nation state. .
Populism is literally just a synonym for democracy, but the people who deride it don't want to say they don't like democracy. Similarly they are the people who claim to be "defending democracy" against populism, which is rather strange, until you realize that what they mean by "democracy" isn't democracy at all, but liberal technocracy.
I think it's because we normal folk are simply not convinced of the benefits of Mass Immigration and Net Zero. We know very well that the only people who do support such things have those 'luxury beliefs' - totally unaffected by the side-effects of these two existential threats. Obvious Question ; if Mass Immigration and Net Zero are so darn brilliant, how come China, Russia and India aren't doing it !!??
Agree. Let’s ask all the Steelworkers in Port Talbot and Scunthorpe what they think of Net Zero. Thousands to lose their jobs. No more virgin steel. So we will just pay through the nose for it to be made overseas because we still need it and it will be transported by sea thousands of miles across the sea. Brilliant. Absolutely fkin brilliant.
@@jfro5867to be fair the Welsh have voted for and supported the left for decades now.... Well they got what they wished for in a left leaning "conservative" government. So what did they expect would happen?
@@andrewcheadle948 Yea I know Andrew. I grew up in Wales and left for work when I was 21, and live in Northern England now, I’m 55 soon. Parents still down there. Labour have not done anything for Wales really, Cardiff and Swansea city centres soaked up hundreds of millions in European money but the valleys have had nothing. They are spending an absolute fortune on the A470 Heads of the Valleys road from Abergavenny to Swansea that let’s be honest isn’t that busy anyway, plus it takes trade away from all the towns and villages en route and the high street is dying, wonder why? They hammer motorists with cameras, restrictions and low speed limits. None of it is joined up thinking.
There is ZERO benefit to mass immigration... It increases housing costs and drives down wages. Increases crime, creates division, destroys social cohesion, destroys a countries identity, fragments society, it causes resentment when immigrants are put first over the indigenous population, drives up taxation, puts pressure on resources, and in the case if England makes you feel like you're not in your own country anymore. There is ZERO benefit to it. All it does is destroy countries that have centuries of independence and culture, and betrays the memory of every singles person that gave their lives over all that time fighting to keep that countries freedom and sovereignty in wars! I'm sick of it. Sick of the corrupt, twisted liers that have done this to us and are destroying the west for their sick, pathetic agenda. I'm sick of feeling like a second-class citizen in my own country, and watching my country and heritige turn to dust. The enemy is our own governments and their puppet masters. It's time to make a stand and stop them. For the sake of all those that went be us to build what we have, and the sake of our children and their futures. The corrupt filth in office must be cleaned out! By whatever means necessary!
Populism..feared by politicians because they lose control” from the established order. The public are given a shit choice between modern day politics so what do politicians expect when they don’t deliver on simple things? Immigration, defence of the realm, an orderly system that functions. Prospects for their families to grow and flourish. When the established parties refuse to do the basics, then the public will refuse to stand by them.
That's richly ironic. "Popular" is from the Latin "populus," meaning "the people," while "democratic" is ultimately from the Ancient Greek demos, meaning the common people ,or "free citizens."
@@DieFlabbergast Well, if we are to include women now as bios and not zoe (bare life), I suppose it is interesting that these democrats speak of the populace as though plebs. If only we had some gracchi or catiline, to speak for us.
I am an academic and so is my wife. We have achieved a good standard of living and want it to stay that way. And because the established parties in Germany have no family policy, a bad school policy and a general socialist course of impoverishment by wilfully promoting poverty migration, we will fight back and vote accordingly in the next elections.
I do love a cheeky listen of the views of people that don't live in the real world and therefore not alongside all the problems these polices bring to everyday life. Far removed from Poland who actually seem to care about their country and culture, the UK is dying in front of our eyes and it's heartbreaking to watch. Populism will expode in the next few years in the UK, I see so many people that were previously too polite to comment who now freely air their views. The people are not happy with constantly being ignored and absolutely done with politicians and their lies. Why would you continue to vote for promises that are never upheld? Whether by voter apathy or split vote, I'd like to offer congratulations to Kier Starmer, who gets to strike the death blow that finally finishes this country off for good. Now, who is currently accepting asylum seekers from the UK? Or do I get to choose like everyone else? 🤔
I think it was Fraser Nelson who first seemed absolutely accepting of mass immigration. He's still of the "It's lovely to have so many different types of foreign restaurants to choose from" state of mind that people living in certain well-heeled parts of London possess. Meanwhile, other people try to get doctor's appointments or places in state schools with less and less success. Actually, it's really shocking that journalists should have such limited experience of events in the real, every day, world.
I was in Islington on Tuesday and couldn't quite put my finger on what it was that was pleasantly different about it, it took a while ---- it's white and it's most definitely does not have a muslim component. Croydon Man
Yep, the UK is very ,uch kept under control by status anxiety (don't want to look working class by opposing immigration etc), and politeness (don't want to upset anyone or go against the group). Once those methods of control break down though, you get something called a preference cascade, where people all realize that almost everyone is opposed to how things are going, they were just intimidated into staying silent.
We just found out that the 3 main cities in England have white brittish English speaking people are a minority now and we're fed up with politicians telling us multi culture is great we have had enough whats wrong with looking after the indigenous population first and ensuring people added to the population are intergrated
