It's no wonder that his kicks and snares always have this really heavy attack. I used to think that it was purely because of samples blended in but this gate trick makes more sense. Great tip!
@@GreenLightSound You're welcome! Btw, I just tested this trick on the old SSL Duende Native emulation, and it worked out well, so I don't see any reason for it not to work on the newer Native emulations.
Man, I highly appreciate you making this video. This gave me a clear understanding on what gates do and how I can utilize it. For the past 2 year or so, I’ve only used SSL channel strip plugins for its Mic pre, EQ, and Compression. Never had a clue on what a gate does. But seeing how you used it like a drum shaper, I had to slap myself in the forehead hah. I’ve bought and used plugins JUST TO DO what a gate does when all this time I could’ve used the gate on a SSL channel strip if I would’ve known. Thanks again
I remember the guy who engineered Third Eye Blind’s self titled album talking about using this technique. He was accused of using samples on that album, but it was actually this!
This is a great technique! To my ears the UAD and the Waves fall short whereas the Brainworks SSL does EXACTLY what a desk does. Waves fast attack is too fast but if you increase the release time it gets close. UAD is just disappointing here as the gate lets too much through, and there's the costly price tag too, when compared to the others. Thanks for the info and examples!
@@tisbonus I was only responding to your statement about the costly price tag and replying that brainworx costs the same. I wasn't commenting about the performance (which BTW UAD seems to work just fine for many professional engineers).
@@jimhardiman3836 Isn't performance what matters though? Many more pro's use waves than UAD for the reasons listed. Ilok is a big pain in the ass and anyone using it is familiar with that sentiment. I own all three and have no allegiance to any one company. I'm still using waves because of its simplicity and price but if you've ever used an SSL desk, brainworks is extremely close to the real thing.
Stable genius @@tisbonus again I was remarking about your claim about the price. But if you want to talk about performance, UAD SSL works just fine for Joe Chiccarelli, but apparently you know better than Joe. How many hit records have you produced?
IK British Channel is underrated. Maybe it's because it's not endorsed by SSL and is laid out a bit differently than most channel strips. But sound-wise, it's right up there.
@@GreenLightSound ...yes is underrated and I also thinks is because is not endorsed, but even the laid out of the SSL plugins Channel Strip is different from the others, so, that should not be a reason to be underrated.
Most (all?) gates have a 'pop' on the attack if set a certain way. It's just the nature of the attack. You'll hear a 'click' of the gate opening. It's often undesirable but yeah, on drums, especially kicks it can add a beater effect.
Ha! Many times I've had problem with the kick and not being able to control the compressor release well enough, then ended up violently chopping off the tail with gate. Never though that this would be a technique to use, merely a way around a problem I cannot solve.
I tried both the SSL Native Channel Strip 2 and the SSL 4K B plugins and neither of them could really get that click, which was pretty surprising. The Brainworx 4000 G and 4000 E definitely could and the Brainworx 9000 J could KINDA get it but wasn’t as effective as the G and E.
@@JRCorominas he explains in an interview that that he'd duplicate and play off record head, delay it, then send to sidechain input of gate, making it open before the transient rather than as the transient is occurring.
Thanks for very good and informative video. I have 2 questions. First: In my studio I use real analogue SSL compressor XR628 which has gate/expander mode. Will it work the same as you presented with plugins? And second question, I've been always using envelope shapers or/and multiband envelope shapers with kick/snare to bring the attack or/and cut tail. Can you please explain which is method is better? The technique you presented or multiband envelope shapers? Pros and cons of each? Thank you.
I've never used the XR628, so I can't be sure if it will work the same as the E and G series dynamics. It does have the fast attack mode, so it potentially could. Multiband envelope shapers can achieve the same effect, but they usually have more features which take longer to set up. The advantage of this method is that is quick and easy, plus you have the rest of the channel strip there for your standard EQ and dynamics needs.
Hi. Many thanks for this video! I would really appreciate if you could check waves cla mixhub to see if it is working or has the same issue as ssl channel. Simple yes/no answer would be great as today it's on sale 🙂 and thanks again for all these tips!
just for the record :) at the end I wasable to test CLA mixhub myself with side by side BX E - I have to say CLA was too artificial and the gate made it somehow muddy..not smooth at all. It's sad and it looks good but..but :)
My favorite AW kick - the attack is so firm the low end tight and the mid range has this distinct character - amazing. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Dn8vzTsnPps.html
You're a CHAMPION!! Made all the difference for me -Especially in my kick. I always like to try and find alternatives to just smashing something with compression (mainly because I suck at using compression...). So, thanks!! I used the free Dead Duck Gate and it works like a charm!!
