Angry groom loses it during wedding cake cutting ceremony, leaving guests and bride horrified 

Ok

Amen you better preach but it's up to woman because she one married him the mother can't make her leave him unless she really wants to

I don’t think bro even wanted to marry her

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That sounds nice, but the decision is ultimately your daughters.

He probably has mental health issues she probably had no ideal what she getting into

You're saying it like he targeted the kids. He acted in anger. People who act in anger can't think straight.

My thoughts exactly…

@@blackcoffee9470 so what if he acted in anger. The guys a moron

He should be ashamed

It is sad, that all these "empathetic" people in this comment section miss the point, this is an arranged marriage and he is obviously not happy about it. Probably the same people, who would feel compassion for the women raging and breaking stuff in tears, because she was forced to marry someone she doesn't want to, ridicule this unhappy man and add insult to injury.

You think 🤔 Lol

2 ostias bien dadas

He looks like he has some kind of developmental condition, he definitely has brain damage,more than likely from inbreeding.

Yeah! Losing one's temper on a very stressful day is obviously a good indication of how someone normally behaves on an everyday basis! Luckily this very long video has included all the important details of everything that went on prior to this point so we can all make an informed and sound decision. I'm so glad the internet is full of logical and rational people who aren't quick to judge others.

How you know that. She probably is not even a good person. She thought it was funny when he cut the cake the way he did

@movingforward2570 .... Normally I wouldn't say this to people out loud, but I'm making an exemption this time, grow a fucking brain and a new pair of eyes.

@@movingforward2570 And how do you know that she is a bad person? Same logic from you here

@@The_I_of_the_Angel333 how do you know he is not reacting to a bad person an unbearable female. Didnt u see when she laughed at him

@@movingforward2570 Bruh "unbearable female" 💀Also, seriously? Her smiling when he shaked the bottle in a funny way proves that she's a bad person? Bro, you're literally a red flag. I know women can be abusive, but you're delusional here.

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Depending on the story behind the video, tell the groom to fuck off/ teach your daughter about loyalty/ don't force your child into an arranged marriage. But fuck all that, we'll just focus on what we see... an abusive man we've never met.

As a father i will smash the bottle on the woman's head lmaoo

@@lool999________ off course you would. Y'all are from the same country.

@@maurice990 hey that's racist white boi. Go back to ur trailer trash lol

From the time of this video, I hope she is still alive.

and supposedly on his happiest day where he is watched by so many.

She already knows 😢

New title for man child .. 😮 What a horrible marriage that's going to be 😢

True. Also hes exhibiting that infront of the world... so he could also be protesting a forced arranged marriage and getting out of it on wedding day

Is your sister single?

But he didn't do anything physical to her, he just screwed up the wedding - by all means, you should keep your sister away from someone with such anger issues but just hospitalising him in advance or based on a guess he may have done something to her in the past kind of implies you have the same anger issues.

​@@divinity176No not even close. This is very black and white. The groom is a lunatic and unstable and that is obvious and indisputable. Protecting your children at all costs is called being a PARENT. That would have ended right then and there. She would not go home with him and never be alone with him again. You're the crazy one making excuses for him. Domestic abuse is no joke and takes on many forms and many times victims suffer in silence, to afraid to say or do anything. I certainly hope you have no kids, especially a daughter.

@@definitelynotanAIchatbotwhat? This is RU-vid not tinder 💀

@@jasminesmith7414 I met my first gay lover on RU-vid. Unfortunately, the relationship ended after he got locked up for child molestation.

Hopefully would be soon enough to just stop the wedding paperwork being filed at all.

Would be doing the groom a favor, since he was forced to marry, instead of marrying his real lover.

PERIOD

Lmao divorce, this ain't a US wedding dear, this is some savage country with arranged weddings in which probably neither of them have a say

u r for sure white

@xtrmst_01 Says who? That's not a bad boy,that's an abuser,who will end up beating her or even killing,when he gets angry.Looks like you must be one of them,no wonder you defend this behavior.

She cheated on him

@@kitkatcookie869 How do you know?

@@wildcat.7834 this has cut out the rest of the video we’re he watches a security camera show her and his friend kissing

@@kitkatcookie869 Oh ok.Didn't know that.

scrolled a while to finally find someone who understands

You are 100% right. That's the reason

That doesn't make his behavior ok

no wonder they're still drinking water from puddles

He threw it on the floor not on the kid

You obviously never smashed glass in your life then. Glass will smash all over the place. Hitting you in the face 😂

​@cal401 u accidentally just recently dropped a blender jar, and it cut my foot when the glass shattered everywhere I didn't even notice the piece of shard until I felt my foot wet 😳. So yea even a little kid cried. I'm pretty sure glass shards hit him/her.

@@jackiesomoza58425t thanks for your comment & backing. Horrible stuff glass is when smashed, as you know. Some people are daft. Poor kids

He’s not a man.

She blackmailed him into marry her. That's he is angry. Check out stats, more men are refusing to marry.

@@intermilan9731 ?? Lol what kind of fantasy are you living in? Edit: The fact that bitter men are still replying to this comment with 'oh the girl is the abuser' and backing up that imbecile of a man is so funny to me.

@@intermilan9731 imagine making shit up to feel better 😄 just a wee reminder that women are way more likely to be forced into marriages in third world countries. They are seen as property etc. Also if this was a forced marriage that would mean she’s also being forced but she’s not acting like a freak.

@@bakubb8659 Racist.

@@sage9097 Are they living a fantasy? Why do people always stay on the female side in any situation like that? You haven't even tried to know the real context

Men like him will never change no matter how many times they get punched in the face.

more like type of guy who have never been cheated on

Ya... correct 💗(main problem is in arrange merrage)(in most of the cases)

How do you know they did? or your lizard brain turn on the stereotype mode .

@@juzores1 looks like either an arranged marriage or she cheated on him the night before and he found out today

He must be a muslim man damn sure

@@quintincoetzer1958 look properly it's a christian wedding and Indian wedding are not so simple .

So true 😭

Can't you observe the emotion on boy face , it clearly shows he doesn't want to marry her at all .

@@seven7enhypen too bad for him. That doesn’t make it acceptable to throw a tantrum and smash glass onto the floor w/ CHILDREN standing right there. Absolutely disgusting.

Same. I'm so sad and horrified for her.

@@ShoyuRamenBreakingBad that is a kind of emotion If you are so much angry and I smile what will u do ??

I've been to a couple of angry management classes.

@@matthewstone1362😂😂😂👍🏼

*anger management, sweetheart 😉

Sadly this isn't an American marriage, they were forced into this and she has no chance for annulment. Her family put her in to this and won't let her out

Cultural… see how no one really surprised.

Looks like an arranged marriage to me. The bride looks scared of the groom, and the groom seems angry at everyone around him. They both look like they do not want to be there and the only ones who look happy are the guests and the family members around.

@@peggypeggy4137 how!? I’m Muslim culture? You’re dreaming!

@@peggypeggy4137 did you not read the comment literally right above yours? There is no chance to get an annulment. You do know that in other countries women are forced into marriages and they have absolutely no right to choose their spouse or to get a marriage annulled right?

For her safety I do facking hope so god damn 🤣 That was awful

Wow you're Soo brave and courageous. Please tell me more of how you became such a victim and such a brave survivor? You deserve a medal of honor

​@@Mary6661 Your Sarcasm Not Even Funny And Corny As Phuck!!! Domestic Violence Isn't A Joking Matter Not By A Long Shot!! 🙄

Lol 😂

Horrible... Did she not know about his behaviour before they tied the knot though.

ESPECIALLY when no one is around, and wait until they have children....YIIIIIKES....

He might do to her what he did to that cake. Slasher style. How terrifying

She cheated on him. He found out a few minutes before this, there is another video floating around where he goes on a rant about it just before this. He is in the right to be pissed. Imagine finding out your partner cheated on the day of your wedding.

@@maximiliangfrorer1039 can you link it at least?

@@maximiliangfrorer1039 link?

@@maximiliangfrorer1039 Link please?

This girl should divorce immediately..

Balmain Chanel obviously not this guy has serious anger issues

He is being forced to marry his girl.

Beauty is never enough. What if he is in love with other person? Perhaps his falimy is forcing him to get married.

@The King 😒 ok... loooool

Wow can u imagine that u married with someone u have too.. Forced married could be the guy show his anger

But is he not angry because that random woman stole their first peice of cake? Like aren't the newlyweds supposed to share the first peice together and then the caterers or whatever take the cake and cut slices for all of the guests? I think he got really pissed off because the guest took their cake and was about to eat it in front of them. That's seriously disrespectful and idk if he was paying attention to the children when he threw the bottle.

The video cuts out the part why he is angry He married a girl that betrayed him And then they show a footage where she kisses his best friend..

@@breewashere bro who smashes a bottle of champagne in public during your wedding because of CAKE

@@nutcrackerreal100 Someone with anger issues and someone whose having a temper tantrum because they're angry? I'm not saying what he did was right just telling people what they failed to see happen.

@@kleinfeicht why do u people keep saying that without actually linking anything?

"2 years ago"

One hundreth like

@@birdwithinternetconnection2624 yea, and?

Arranged marriage, you fool. If you don't know the backstory, keep your hands off the keyboard.

@@Boston2Boca how do you know that?

Not all cultures are equal 🤣🤣

jerk chicken

And that knife too

@@msnos6245his day would gotten even worse if he threw something like that next to my kids

@@msnos6245 for real fam!!

😂😂😂

By the looks of it, the guy got the bride pregnant in a 1 night stand and now he's stock with her. He's been drinking to drown his regret. That's how things work in the rest of the world. We (the west) live in a bubble. The parents should be glad they married her off.

Wait what did the parents do?

​@@jordyb57 arranged marriage with this fool

@@fhenlizhao5406that’s awful I really hope she was able to get out of that

I was thinking the same thing right away. Arranged marriage that the guy didn't want.

It was. This was an arranged marriage that their parents wanted.

Nothing he just beats the shit out of her 💀

😯

He can do whatever he wants and he looks like a rich fella so basically now he owns her

It makes you wonder don't it. ☹️☹️☹️

He was forced into marriage. He had to leave his lover for it… just imagine if you were him..

What about your son?

You assume you can make her or that she would want to go. Also I’m sure you wouldn’t force your son to marry someone like they forced him.

Absolutely!

​@@lisagre6063Come on, we all know that men have a physical advantage over women. A woman is more vulnerable than a man in these situations.

​@JoJo-op5xy I wish I had the needed knowledge on my wedding day, it was similar, our marriage was over by the time we got home. I was o excited to become a wife and the joy of the day blinded me to what was really happening .😢😢😢

First thing I truly cared about

Ok lets talk about it... yes they could have gotten hurt.

Kids did get hurt; they were crying in the audio.

@@searchingsoul1728 no they didn’t they just got scared.Don’t you think the people there would’ve acted more franticly if somebody got hurt?

@@bloodredrain no cause they clearly don't see that he has major anger issues an that the girl looked beyond scared

ok karen

@@EstradaDuran-sg6co You side with groom I take it? Abusive men usually stick together.

As a mother, I would keep a close eye on my daughter for a few years if she decides to stick it out. I agree with all those posting that if this is how he acts in public just imagine what he will do in private.

@@michelero4297 are you mentally ill or just a liar?

@@michelero4297, Are you insane? There is no sticking it out. Are you seeing how he grabs her hand and puts it on the knife to cut the cake? She is reduced to nothing but a lifeless plastic doll he positions. Look at it! She is already demoralized. Once that marriage is consummated it is over and she is trapped. Stick it out my ass! He will in no way shape or form be allowed to beat and deflower my daughter. This man is done!

If he would have slammed a bottle down towards my children, he'd be eating it! The hot head.

Tsk tsk. Do you have any idea what children see every DAY on the web and in real life? You are a FOOL!

​@@truthhurts8312 He would have broken your head with the bottle if you were there

@@truthhurts8312 the hot head??? Who talks like that???

In front of children, you know this is an arranged marriage right

Omggg 🤣🤣🤣

Why am I so dirty thinker???🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Wedding night going to be a disappointment for her then

useless like sakura

@mr system thank you!😄

Or she froze

Arranged marriage poor girl.

Maybe she's already terrified of him.

I hope she got away from him, and I hope she is happy and free.

Actually she was happy then shock set in.

No it’s usually not in front of people that makes it more dangerous

It's terrifying

@@brandonkashinsky9222if he’s like this in front of people and he almost hit the kids with that glass bottle. He’s probably worse behind closed doors.

What is horrifying was their special moment being ruined.

@@fingerprint5511there was never going to be a special moment with that man.

A wise woman can always calm her man down.

No fuck that she saw the signs but still married him she's that type of friend that take away the peace at functions by bringing this ass face to everything and he always ruin things but they are a package deal because she to stupid to see that hes stupid

​@@stefanleonardo9734I wise woman would never marry someone like him.

@@stefanleonardo9734 Given the obscene rates of domestic violence everywhere today, that is clearly nonsense.

@@stefanleonardo9734 🤔 SMH at your daft response.! utterly questionable.. 🤔👎🏻👎🏻 ✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻

I'm sure both knew about each others behaviour.

I wonder if he didn't want to do any of it so he was mad. Hopefully he actually wanted to marry her.

Loads of women stick to boyfriends of this kind. 😂😂

OMG why woman marry jerk like that??🤤 Truly this is not first time behaviour 😤

What was he so mad about?

Typical narcissist abuse

@@Aphrodite_ErosLuvChild214-80 she is the conducter

2 possibilities: 1. This must be a forcefull arranged marriage, the guy didnt want to be in at all costs. Look at the people ignoring his behaviour at first until he broke a bottle. 2. The groom may have just found out that the bride cheated on him. Look at the calmness of the bride, i doubt if anyone could stay this unaffected by such behaviour unless if one is at fault. 😅😅 I am just curious now.

@@Mob-zm8fi that's what I was thinking too

@Ryan or, he's already been abusive and she knows that if she reacts, he'll escalate. She may be too intimidated to get emotional in front of him.

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turned into a funeral? 🪦 Thankfully none of the kids seem to have been injured by his actions so stop being so dramatic.

​@Orlanzepol123 he meant he won't allow anyone to act like that in front of his son. That's child abuse, he could file a case to the groom is a good decision

@@Orlanzepol123none seemed to be injured “as far as we know”. But the shards scattered pretty close to them so the possibility is there.

TBH..I heard a child cry out & then one of the lil boys, was shown rubbing his stomach. That bottle obviously ricochet upwards & hit him in the stomach that quick.

shut up nyyga

My thoughts

Lmaooo

yeah he is sick

The children were scared 😱

Lol

If I were the groom ..... I would have left her standing at the altar.

You guys know this is an arranged wedding right, hes being forced to do this

Lol, well it looks like he was married to her without his full wish (this wedding is in Turkey btw) so maybe he didn’t want anything serious with the girl but her family found out and he had to marry.

If I had attended this wedding, I would've asked the groom 'why u mad, bro' then I wouldve taken the bride, carried her in my arms and ran away as fast as possible

Good thing he wasn’t wearing his suicide vest

Sadly she most likely doesnt have a chioce

@@11burnout I was shocked also. Sick would be the Brides parents and many concerned guests if they had allowed this poor innocent girl to goin on with the VIOLENT man. P

Yes in front of a bunch of children too. If a “husband” is willing to abuse their wife they will definitely move onto the kids as well. Run!

Bruh the way he acted is so childish and immature.. likw tf is his problem?

WRONG. He's a lovely man

What is horrifying was their special moment being ruined. He was upset, so was the bride, wtf are you watching that you can't see this????

He acts childish and immature ​@@michaelmarama-de4gx

And he made it worse ​@@fingerprint5511

Mine daughter wedding is over the next second

Same here. I hope she escaped in one piece. I can't imagine her being able to preserve her virtue because he looks out of control. It appears to be an arranged marriage so I doubt she had any choice and she will be blamed by her family and his. Makes me shudder

I agree, if that was my daughter, that would have gotten ugly.

Better not to go to jail and instead get her out of there so she doesn't consummate the marriage. That way you can have an annulment and she is safe from him. If she sleeps with him not only are they possibly legally married she could get pregnant and then she will never be rid of him. Don't get arrested: get your daughter out of there.

@@pippadawg7037 In the heat of the moment, emotions would get the better of me. I'm not a violent guy by any means. But when it's your daughter, it would probably break my restraint.

CRYBABY WAAAAAAAAA THE GROOM IS A LEGEND.

Praying does nothing. Actions speak louder. Someone there will be able to put a man child like that in his place

Prayer to who?

Why get married to such a person? He obviously hates marrying her . Was he forced?

​@@toddcont6469 you

What children? Why have kids with him?

He was not throwing the bottle at the kid,but on the floor

⁠@@captain4595yes but the kids are so close by and glass chatters and goes everywhere, the shards of glass could have even hurt those near by. I’ve had glass shatter and pieces land into my skin which I had to pick off.

@@TheCeciD Yeah he should have been careful,but I think there was something that disturbed him so much

​@@captain4595 I wish people would stop saying this! There were a bunch of kids standing in front! STFU

I would get mad to 4real

Me too.. I wonder what happened with this couple

I would also like an update!

Me too!

It was arranged marriage I don't think they even cared

@@CutieRingoJoy how do u know

Apparently the girl cheated on him which is why he's angry. Still shouldn't have thrown the bottle near the kids tho

@@LuffyToons Where did you hear that she cheated?

@@LuffyToons things that never happened for $1000

@@LuffyToons if she cheated he wouldn’t have married her.

Oh really?? 😂

This is Azerbaijan by the way and In Azerbaijan culture matters a lot so I mean

Is he in that cult group ISIS, he’s pure hatred and evil .😳

In the video allegedly taken in Georgia, the photographer's excessive interest in the bride drove the groom crazy. The groom, who drew attention with his harsh behavior, terrorized the wedding. The moments when the groom, who allegedly had a jealousy crisis, broke a small child's foot with a glass bottle he threw were reflected in the footage. In the video; The young groom, who started kicking the coffee table with the wedding cake, is trying to stop the relatives attending the wedding.

​@@ashnhergirlsource?

The rest of her shortened life

Lol it's not the most depressing wedding ever...but it's up there.

no.. you are wrong .. its not a forced marriage.. its anger issues with the guy.. he is an introvert but is not able to hide his anger and displays it more voraciously.. at the back of his mind, he knows he has created a blunder (first by taking a plate and offering cake to his wife forcibly.. this doesn’t suppresses his anger.. so he tries creating a bigger blunder by trying to shower champagne and then by smashing the bottle and then by kicking the table..)

That's whst I thought. An arranged marriage or shotgun wedding.

top comments nothing about that dude being muslim why are you affraid to condemn islam?

​​@timetraveller9666 ridiculously assumptive analysis. boldly telling someone their assumption is wrong, then proceeding to make your own assumption is crazy

@@timetraveller9666 wow a real life mind reader. Can you tell me what I'm thinking?

NO

What if she has a fetish for these kind of guys she probably likes them rough 🤔

@@samirkhan-rv2ly shut up

@@samirkhan-rv2ly da fuq is wrong wit u?

@@kumasucki i’m fine whats wrong with you? Let me know

She's in danger of being a bigger cheat than she already is. She was caught in a threesome with 2 BBCs. What do you expect this poor guy to do. He is the one in danger if you ask me.

Not just the public display but he's doing this at his own wedding reception.

This is one of the funniest videos I've seen in a long time.

Poor girl, I don’t think revoking is possible in that culture

​@@silvercontainedNothing funny about violence on a day he and her should be happy.

He’s pissed I understand, he’s being forced into it

@@unlvckyluna Even if that’s true, it doesn’t excuse his disgusting behaviour!

@@juliacheetham2734 he’s trying to get out of marrying

That's not true at all my husband was abusive at first but later he changed.

No Lady that happened to you Do Not confuse things .​@@jelly.212

He’s probably forced

​​@@jelly.212after u cut him or after u left lol 🙄

@jelly.212 While that may be true in some cases, as was a few gentlemen I have met who admitted to being previously abusive to their wives (before truly repenting), that is still quite a gamble with that woman's safety, because how many do, in fact, get worse over time? _The Burning Bed_ is based on a *_true story._*

It’s most likely an arranged marriage and he doesn’t love her. He ain’t the lunatic and stop taking the females side.

@@ogvamp2 yes he threw a glass bottle in the direction of young children. not the lunatic

@@keyscurls3612 I think he didn’t mean it and it was out of anger.

@@ogvamp2 You say that as if she definitely loved him, which we don't know. As for him being a lunatic? He meets the definition with a perfect match. You claim someone is always taking the females side when it is clearly a generic statement someone such as yours uses to try and trivialize another perso.

@@ogvamp2 how can you protect this dumbass? You a idiot or what?

Don't blame de parents please, not de blame game, he is a grown ass adult man..... He is solely responsible for what he did .... N no one else.....

parents fault

Its not always the parents fault, sometimes it's mental, sometimes its drugs, ect ect. NOT always someone else's fault is all.

@@missloriparker stop blaming drugs for literally everything that goes wrong. There are thousands of other things that cause issues in this world yet people only could ever think to bring up drugs. You are a product of your environment, and if your environment is nasty and you are getting constant beatings mentally or physically or even both every single day, yes, you are going to turn into a monster. Also, if you and your partner are being forced into a marriage, you are going to be nasty at the wedding because you don't even want to be there to begin with!

Sometimes the best parents in the world can have the shittiest kids!

You fear for her but you dont even know all of what happened.

@@93boxing81 this behaviour is not normal

@@MrFruitstick Abnormal events make humans behave abnormal.

was probably forced to marry. and if thats the case. his anger is warranted.... typcial society thou.. immediately feel for the women and the man is forgotten

She cheated on him

Everyone deserves disrespect until they give you a reason to respect them LOL

@@byefelicia8632 WRONG

@@ilovegingers4ever Lets not get emotional and start acting like a psycho that you know you are 😉

He has the right to be angry if he doesn’t wanna marry her

This is more than immaturity. He’s obviously an abuser. He will harm her, no doubt. She needs to end this farce of a marriage immediately!!!!!

Sadly i think they are from a country were it's normalized that woman are second class citizens,the music on the background sounded Turkish or something in that direction and they do look Turkish. In this sort of countries it's taboo to separate/divorce, especially if the woman is the one that wants it. Thank God I am born and life in a Western country. I feel so sorry for her, specially when i was myself physically and psychologically abused by my mother and my family not wanting to do anything about it. I know first hand how that feels like. Thank God I'm an adult now.

​@@esmeraldamoreiragallardoHe is a Russian engineer. Generally Russian/ Ukrainian/ Finnish guys don't like tanned skinned or brown latino or Turkish lady ... he was in relationship with a rich lady that's why he didn't want to marry this brown girl

​@@esmeraldamoreiragallardoPft, stop making up lies. In Turkey it's not a taboo for women to get a divorce. This was not an arranged marriage and Turkish women get married to whoever they desire. Turkish laws are all borrowed from the Western European countries, if you're saying that these women have no rights then that means Western women have no rights as well. These people are not Turkish anyway, the video was shot in Georgia, Asia.

​@@esmeraldamoreiragallardoStone age cultures 🪨 Wonderful😂😂😂

@@__Elke__ of course. Ugh

Arranged marriage doesn’t work like that. With an arranged marriage, you still have a choice. No one forces you. I think you mean forced marriage

@Banned Soon bruh, forced and arranged are two different things. I come from india. Arranged marriages are common, but it’s where you meet someone that your family chooses for you and ultimately you have the final say. They are not forced all the time; thats what forced marriages are called when they are forced. If an arranged marriage is forced, it’s no longer an arranged marriage. You can’t call that an arranged marriage. Please read up on other cultures before you make an ignorant statement about how arranged marriages are forced all the time. It’s really ignorant for you to say that. If family pressures you and you do NOT have the final say, that’s forced. Not arranged. If family merely suggests but let’s you have the final say, that’s arranged. In an arranged marriage, both parties need to consent. Please learn the difference between the two. Doesn’t mean that arranged marriage doesn’t have its cons. The family can give you an ultimatum that they may cut you off as a result of not marrying the person they want you to. That’s a toxic family dynamic. That’s not to be blamed on an arranged marriage though (but a lot of people do, unfortunately); that’s a manipulative, controlling family issue

@@naruhinastarr it can be u can be cut off... or you just don't want to hurt your family.. so u marry who they want..and stay quiet about it.. until you blow up like this guy did.. not saying that it happens alot... but it happens a great deal . I know of 2 young ladies already.. she wanted to marry her cousin, but the moms didn't get along, so she didn't. She is now married to a man her parents picked ,and while she said he's a nice guy, they still have nothing in common. I dunno... don't pick my man... my dad don't know what I want or need from a man.. only I do.

@@naruhinastarr India isn't the only country in the world that have arranged/ forced marriages.

@@burdrchitect1680 I never said that. Of course I know that