Anky van Grunsven talks about her method

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EPONA.tv interviews Anky van Grunsven about the controversial technique, hyperflexion of the neck. Based on the 2006 workshop on rollkur, which was held in Lausanne, Switzerland, the FEI's manual for dressage stewards:
"Providing that a horse is fit and well and not suffering from any back or neck injuries or ailments there are no known clinical side effects specifically arising from the use of
Hyperflexion. However, there are concerns for the horses well-being if the technique is not practiced correctly. The FEI does not permit excessive or prolonged Hyperflexion in
any equestrian sport."
But what is "correct"? What is "prolonged"? And what is "excessive"? So far, no clear answers have been given by the FEI, and so the ban on "excessive or prolonged" hyperflexion of the neck seems useless. At the 2006 workshop on rollkur, delegates were told that "brief spells of hyperflexion" - lasting no more than 20 seconds - were employed as suppling exercises. Detractors of the method claim that it has little to do with stretching, but is a form of mental abuse which serves only to subordinate the horse.
What do you think?
See www.epona.tv and www.epona.tv/uk for more interviews from the cutting edge of dressage. Professor Heinz Meyer, Dr. Gerd Heuschmann, Dr. Andrew McLean and Professor Hilary Clayton are just some of the names you can find on Epona.tv/uk

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@AlwaysHorseLove 14 лет назад

A human's body is really adaptable. A horses neck is not build for this extreme type of bending.

@Junecleveq 2 года назад

"It will never be fight" while her horse is desperately trying to escape the contact and put his head in a natural frame... Yes, makes complete sense Anky..

@HorseClickerTraining 13 лет назад

I feel sorry for Anky. In my view, she has lost her way in any having any feeling and empathy for the sentient creatures she is training. I do not know why this is. I feel also extremely sad, and angry about the way the her horses are being treated. (I would NOT say they are being trained) M J Hannah, MA (Psychotherapist) BHSAII

@lisadacat100 10 лет назад

She says she does not fight it yet it does show the horse trying to get out of it.

@GoingForBroken 14 лет назад

Pt 2: In NRHA and AQHA Reining, horses routinely have their tails given alcohol nerve blocks to keep the horse from being able to swish their tail during performances. Are blocked tails something that the FEI checks for at its Reining competitions?

@painthorselover101 11 лет назад

the only time i've ever had a horse do that to me was when she was asking for relief from the bit. it was a very young filly (3yrs) just begining training and she wasnt used to bit contact, obviously. the horse in the video was asking for relief, which he of course didnt get.

@StephanieHill 14 лет назад

Read 'tuck of war', watch 'if horses could speak' and you'll learn that her and other hyperflexion-riders' horses show a massive amount of tension and un-wellbeing throughout the tests.

@grumpyotter 12 лет назад

Well said, jumper649! I hate seeing horses being worked behind the vertical.

@PonyDressage138 10 лет назад

Im just going to say this ..... " THIS IS A LOAD OF BULLs**T" I ride dressage and frankly high level horses do not need to be hyperflexed..... I dont believe in this... and this is cruel.... shame on you ANKY!

@petraschuecker751 7 лет назад

In my opinion, there is only one thing to be respected about this interview, and that is horses shouldn't be worked in the 'competition frame' all the time. But, that should never mean that hyperflexion should be used, it means that long and low work should be done.

@savvygirl19 14 лет назад

Its ok you can't hear them scream! Im so glad this method is banned.. its so cruel physically, mentally and emotionally...

@melhuikeshoven 11 лет назад

as I've already told you, no it doesn't restrict their vision and no it doesn't put them off balance. They need to be balanced first in order to maintain that position.

@cherylpiercy3111 4 года назад

Am curious to know why many of the horses being shown in dressage events are foaming at the mouth including champions like Moorlands Totilas that was exhibited by Edward Gal who showed him with Totilas' head almost touching his chest and his neck in the hyperflexion and/or rollkur position. What does foaming at the mouth indicate for a horse that is being ridden with its neck in this hyperflexion position : extreme pleasure or pain?

@painthorselover101 11 лет назад

i'm asking what passage has to do with rolkur since they are two different manouvers. but yes i'm fine with a minute of passage.

@Anthillstables 13 лет назад

agree with you copletely Equ3strianCallie! I wonder how much time they get to stretch in a field.....if they do go to a field :/

@painthorselover101 11 лет назад

I know how to read horse's body language and that horse is clearly stressed out. Studies have also been done and it has been found out that rolkur can damage the vertebre in the poll area.

@SparklyReiner87 14 лет назад

the other riders in the ring were riding in a hyperflexion frame too. why isn't anyone attacking them?

@RPostVideos 12 лет назад

On a positive note, Anky did not appear to have her horse cranked in as tightly as some of the others I have watched lately. Although, I have no idea how she is when the camera is not on her. Some videos I have watched are super sad. Rollkur defeats the purpose anyway. Gain a horse's trust and loyalty and he will give you his heart every time. I have been there many times with my horses.

@EventingQueen92 15 лет назад

No matter how happy the horses look, hyperflexion is not good. It is causing an unnecessary break in one of the vertebrae that should not happen. It is also harder for the horse to breathe. And despite the fact that she doesn't use Rollkur all the time, she still uses it. No matter what anybody tells me, I will always be 100% against it. End of story.

@DafieYo 13 лет назад

If you ride in rollkür for some seconds, I think it's okay - if you need it! But I still don't see why it's needed. Why does the horse have to have muscles there? If it needs muscles to be ridden correctly on the rein, isn't that how you should ride it? I also noticed that Anky's horse was slightly behind the vertical even when she was not riding rollkür.

@hanoverianjumpers101 13 лет назад

For our western pleasure horses, of course we ask them to break at the poll and go behind the vertical, but it is only for a split second. You can just see those overdeveloped muscles in the horse's neck bulging out. I have always respected Anky for her Olympic rides, but after discovering her use of rollkur and hyperflexion I am severely disappointed.

@elkek8943 7 лет назад

She must be stopped. That's totally insane. Maybe put her into hyperlflexion and a have look at her performance😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

@Sky212 15 лет назад

'All of the horsepeople know that a horse doesn't wanna do something, it doesn't do it'. Well I saw enough horses with crippled bodies that kept on walking, or else they would get beaten up till they bled. Most horses don't show their pain, they just keep on going.

@jmdnarri 14 лет назад

I agree with a lot of what she says about variation and not riding in competition frame all the time, but even if rollkur was not shown to be detrimental to the horse's spine, arn't you conditioning your horse to drop behind the bridle and back away from contact?? What happened to suppling you horse with 'long and low' to losen up the back and shoulders? I know that a more advanced horse will be able to flex deeper, but does the poll realy need to be limp?

@craisydazy18 13 лет назад

I do not think this method is wrong or bad in a professionals hands. like she said this is for top level horses only. they are extremely fit. athletes must train all their muscles. a ballerina can do the splits and it doesnt hurt cause she has stretched and trained her body to do it. she would have to over or hyper flex to feel the stretch. same here. this horse isnt acting abused or hurt in any way. people who dont understand are putting human emotions on the animals.

@pitti-km2qc 8 лет назад

that's not nice!!! why the horse does not resist ???

@ThePippers 14 лет назад

@xfloria Heh, forstår hvad duh mener ^^ ;en prøv at finde en video her på RU-vid om Rollkur.. Såh kan duh se problemet med det ^^

@zigspective 14 лет назад

@DrowningOrchid No kidding, those horses ears are back in the "I'm annoyed" one step away from being seriously ticked off.

@astr0685 13 лет назад

@HelloThereYou1010 I totally agree! U took the word right out of my mouth!!!

@Zijadah 13 лет назад

I do not think riding in a hyperflexed position / rollkur is a good training method. But she does make a very important statement that every rider should follow, and it is the VARIATION. Because even if the horse's position is the very best, it will get damaged if you stay that way for too long. Horses aren´t built to have riders on them at all! Therefore she is right about the variation part. However, hyperflexion is probably not the solution...

@caloase 13 лет назад

Fantastic...Listen to the key words. This method is an suppling exercice for the top Grand Prix Horse, keeping it fit and supple and strong. This method is ridden in conjunction with variation of the horses frame . The horse tells the rider when it has had enough, never a fight, the horse is being asked very nicely with supple kind hands. It is happening free, flowing and forward. The horse is giving 110%,with no stress involved. Anky you are the best, your horses are beautiful .

@mettescherner 14 лет назад

Should I start using other arguments? - I have studied, and MANY of my friends have studied, and experts and researchers would agree with me as far as I know ;) Rollkür is bad no matter what. It's okay, when the ridge of the horse is vertical, but when it's under, it's very bad! And I came up with other arguments, so read my comments before answering, my dear. For every time the horse comes more under the vertical, it damages! So read more on it, before starting discussions.

@painthorselover101 11 лет назад

a horse is a horse whether it is doing dressage or not and anyone can see the horse in this video is fighting this woman. i have trained horses to do classical dressage from the ground so i do know how it works but you will NEVER see me rolkuring any of my horses because i actually care about them.

@mettescherner 14 лет назад

And you need to open your eyes and study on this subject! I listen to Anky, but it's all bullshit she's saying I have studied on rollkür, so I know that it hasn't anything to do with trained or untrained horses, so I don't actually give a shit for what she's saying :) She KNOWS it's bad! That's why she's so nervous, which you can obviously see in her eyes, and the way she speak. I might have hurt your feelings because you're maybe a fan of her, but I'm not. She knows what she's doing is bad.

@painthorselover101 11 лет назад

physically, possibly. but I would rather listen to the horse vs a study done by people. you also do realize that this study could potentially be compromised due to the fact that horses that are trained with rolkur consistently can become physically used to the pain it causes, to the point where it can have very little effect on them anymore? this study would have to be done on horse just starting training using rolkur, but i highly doubt it will ever be.

@lassiesuca 14 лет назад

I think I may purchase another copy of Tug of War by Dr Gerd Heuschmann and send it to Anky! or Twisted Truths of Modern Dressage. Hopefully she will learn a thing or to, really needs to!

@rfw8791 15 лет назад

If this is not for anybody else to do, then why are you doing public seminars to explain what should never be done by the amateurs that are watching the demo? If the horse is not fighting, then why in the video, is he shaking his head.

@mettescherner 14 лет назад

Then it doesn't matter if the horse is bigger and stronger, because in the hands of rollkür, it's helpless.

@melhuikeshoven 11 лет назад

video or it didn't happen What you are not getting is that ALL dressage moves are based on the way a horse moves naturally in real life. It was developed to make horses easier to handle and ride, back in wartimes. We take the natural motion of the horse and ask the horse to hold this position, train it extensively to be done over longer periods of time. By your definition, riding a horse is cruelty.

@Nikole037 12 лет назад

I hate when people say that a horse is big and they don't do what they don't want todo. Horses are prey animals we are predators and in such abuse works really well on them as they will give in! Give in not only to intimidation but pain. Abuse is abuse no excuse, stop trying t disguise it Anky!

@thecrazydolls 12 лет назад

Hahahaha yes, clearly, I am sooooo pissed off. I don't give a rats rarzoo how successful she is, What gets me is what she does to horses and what her and her psychopathic partner have helped perpetrate in the dressage world. I grieve for the horses ridden in this manner, not Anky having all the success while I haven't. Seeing as this is what you have to do to win now, you can keep it. But it's nice to see things may be changing for the better!

@jkmanring 14 лет назад

i understand doing the rollkur for a little bit.....a few seconds max because it could supple and strengthen a horse but not like she does with her horses

@GoLightly01100 7 месяцев назад

A competition frame is unhealthy?? Wow. Your lack of empathy is showing. I call BS on the “amateur” snide comment. If you can’t feel it when your horse is over flexed, you’re doing it wrong.

@painthorselover101 11 лет назад

...really? i once retrained an ex bucking bronc and he's now being used at a theraputic riding center. i also worked with 'dangerous' draft horses that were allowed to get away with anything because they were so big. The reason i stopped riding was because i got into an accident involving a horse and a drunk driver. the horse died btw. now i only do harness and ground work. i may eventually get back into riding but its not in the cards right now.

@StephanieHill 14 лет назад

I know what she means but it is pretty much pointless as for exampel Grand Prix has the extended walk on almost loose reins which is a pretty much different frame from e.g. piaffe. In other words, GP covers all sort of frames that are beneficial for the horse. Of course you would not ride as much collection in percentage in training than on a show. And as a matter of fact her 'variation' in hyperflexion is so little that it can be called not existant.

@painthorselover101 11 лет назад

I have rescued horses so i know what abuse looks like. I also know that abuse occurs in many forms. Rolkur is physical and mental abuse.

@SamGraveling 14 лет назад

This woman should not have horses. She shows them no respect, has hard hands and a hard mind. She is inconsistent in her words and deeds, she may be able to ride, but blatently uses her horses for self-promotion and doesn't care about the cost to them. I have heard a lot about her, and thank you for showing this clip which lets me make my own judgement.

@SparklyReiner87 14 лет назад

@empirepromotions haven't you seen bonfire? he is well into retirement, happy and healthy. tell me how he would be that way if she was harming him everyday.

@thecrazydolls 14 лет назад

@hanoveraner Low, Deep and Round or just flat out Rollkur/Hyperflexion, Lovey? Pretty sure Rollkur/Hyperflexion is what the FEI named the technique in Lusanne in 2006, as they watched Hyperflexed horses prance around the indoor arena, changing the named to LDR doesnt make it any better. And lets not forget, they just banned Hyperflexion..you might want to be a little careful about spouting that you use a method banned by our governing body.

@katharina_klr 4 года назад

This woman is ill in her head. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢You should do hyperflexion on yourself then you see how fucking painful it is i hate humans that do this to these poor animals you should have fun and your horse should have fun but not like that this is just for the money. If you would know a horse as a friend a teammate then you could see very clearly that the Eyes tell you everything about the horse they are the gateway to their soul and if you would really know anything about horses then you would know that. 🤬🤬🤬

@yolkarin 12 лет назад

"It will never be a fight." And then you see her pulling the horse in the mouth. Makes perfect sense.

@JCV-kd1sy 4 года назад

With 2 bits and Chains.. jesus

@SeanJohnsonHasBigEars 14 лет назад

The horse isn't fighting back because it simply learned not to, its called "learned helplessness". The fact that she's a gold medalist is pretty sad.

@MrFlamants 2 года назад

The FEI guidelines are clear: Hyperflexion was banned as a mental abusive method for horses. We have a clear and systematic problem of judging in dressage up to now. Don't give up to point it out.

@liebhaberr 7 лет назад

Can someone just buy Anky a motorbike?

@horseysoar 14 лет назад

"Time flies when you're having fun." wtf? Make your horse over bend and say it's fun. In the video, the horse obviously does not want to get into that position. Wtf, just wtf.

@GoingForBroken 14 лет назад

Pt 1: Anky has been getting more involved in the Western style sport of Reining. As comfortable as she is in using abusive methods, I am surprised that she isn't doing Western Pleasure, in which some abusive trainers are regarded as celebrities. She'd be right at home with some of the crap they do.

@anadubar4819 11 лет назад

My suggestion for all the riders who insist on using Rollkur: you should tie down your own head, too. Rider and horse are a pair, right ? So in order to match the style of your horse, and to give an example of physical harmony, please glue your chin to your chest whilst riding. I am sure that would impress the judges even more.

@vivientakacs5599 8 месяцев назад

Holding my chin to my chest for only 30 seconds is already hurting my entire spine so much I cannot imagine how it is like doing this over and over and over with an added weight on your back

@GraceRiverson 14 лет назад

"time flies when you're having fun" Get this woman away from horses.

@rfw8791 15 лет назад

Well I think Anky says it all when she says "I haven't got a clue". Note that she says this many times. If we are really talk about interval training, then shouldn't you know how long the horse is in stretch verses flexion.

@casey7679 10 лет назад

Anky smiles, invites us to come and observe thus shifting focus to the interviewer, avoids answering and tries to manipulate the interview. she is dishonest and I don't like her or rollkur. I am a horse owner of 30 years. Bad business these folks.

@countchocula5379 4 года назад

When people say “We cannot force horses to do what they do not want to do” and “their ears wouldn’t be up if they weren’t happy”.... horses have prey animal instincts and remain stoic as much as possible. Also, the amount of leverage in those medieval torture bits being used is incredibly high. Their gum tissue (which the bit rests upon) is even *way* thinner than the skin over our shin bones... it doesn’t matter how strong the creature, the pain is phenomenally horrific and yes, we can cause them severe long term damage without them fighting back over it. The horse would not be in that position if not for the pain.

@whiteraven4590 9 лет назад

There is *SO* much wrong about this!

@olive7730 14 лет назад

The curb bit has a strong leverage effect. One should take them these bits away to see, what they are doing then, without the strength , the power they get through these bits.

@EventingQueen92 15 лет назад

And at the end when she says 'If a horse doesn't want to do it, it wont do it." WRONG. Horses may not want to do something, but they have SOOO much heart and respect for us that they will keep going. It is a wonder they even let us on their backs or do as they are told/asked. They dont have to do anything we ask of them, they chose to because they trust us and have hearts that are so big I don't think anybody will ever realize how much a horse will do for his rider. Even if he doesnt want to..

@jkmanring 13 лет назад

With the first horse, you can see the tension in his back via the position in his tail. There is such a thing as over stretching a muscle, and that's exactly what she's doing to the horse's longimus dorsi muscle. He's shaking his head and his mouth is open and pinched in discomfort.

@HorseClickerTraining 13 лет назад

@painthorselover101 11 лет назад

- as for the ears, horses pay attention to their sorroundings whether stressed or not. also, rolkur can damage the vertebre near the poll. this may affect the control the horse has over his ears, explaining why they are so 'bouncy' and relaxed looking when the rest of the horse isnt.

@EpicUXnl 12 лет назад

I've seen that video. His tongue was stuck between the bits. Again.. absolutely no idea what you're talking about. So increadibly quick to judge. People you've never met. Horses you've never ridden. A level of dressage you'll never achieve. Fexibility you'll never experience :) There will always be people who don't ride their horses correctly. If you want to prevent it all together, you'd have to ban riding. Good luck with that.

@TheLollyLeo 10 лет назад

When she is so convinced that her method does not harm the horse, she wouldn't have to explain it that way...

@DJBelbe 14 лет назад

@Emma8887 so true! that's why dressage used to be a recreational form of art that kept horses working healthy way beyond their 20s... make it into a sport and this was bound to happen. If at least they would actually evaluate by the right standards...

@lassiesuca 14 лет назад

but the thing that is really frustrating is that the FEI are completely contradicting everything they state in there rules, go onto the website and look at there rules for dressage, about where the horses head should be, the poll is meant to be the highest point of the horses head, and the fact that Anky is v.open about her training, is even worse because she publically announces that she uses rollkur yet NOTHING IS DONE.

@thekleeblaettchen 10 лет назад

If she wants variation in her training program.. Why doesn't she ride her horse in a muuuch healthier and more natural forward/downward position? If she wants to train every muscle in her horses' bodies, why doesn't she simply let them jump over fences, canter them outside, uphill and downhill? Why?

@hannjenn 9 лет назад

It's ugly because it's unnatural, which makes it bad for the horse. Hyper flexion has no place in any riding program, much less in the highest echelons of equestrian sport. I hope this perversion stops soon.

@AdrenalineArt 13 лет назад

I believe in gymnastic excercises such as grids, lateral work, strengthening the cardio system, back, neck, tendons through hill work and long and low stretching. I flex my horse occasionally on the flat, for example when trotting round a circle to the right, softly flexing left....just checking he is supple and attentive.it seems modern dressage is all about domination and being able to place the horse wherever they want whenever. This whole thing was a twisting of the truth. Disgusting stuff.

@janhall1641 9 лет назад

Absolute crock of sh*t! Cruel and unnecessary.

@catherq9461 2 года назад

“Everyone know that if a horse dosent want to do it, it won’t do it”… oh how tired I am of people using that excuse time after time😑 horses are the most willingly and forgiving animal. They will do almost everything to remain safe and AVOID pressure. You won’t believe how many horses I have seen being forced… horses that showed clear pain signals but the rider choose to give it a smack or added some more/stronger equipment to “fix” it. Horses that was terrified by jumping some jumps, so the rider kept kicking, whipping and her instructor was swinging a whip behind it. We can and do force horses all the time, it’s something we dosent even realize, because we hide it behind quotes like this, by calling our horses stupid, stubborn, naughty, testing you, etc. by teaching others that what they do arent wrong because the horse does it (even though it shows or did show (at the start) conflict behavior).

@vickyboyle96 9 лет назад

Why do she use such a horrible method it's cruel

@luthientassard 13 лет назад

@TJPerformance so if i use ilegal methods to increase my endurance, etc, that in enchange are perjudicial for my body (maybe in a few years) but i win, it doesnt matter??? it doest matter that i'm damaging my body?? if we dont use painful/ dangerous methods in our training why do someone to inflict that pain to another being?

@AnamCaraDressage 14 лет назад

Anky says the horses are not fighting, but you can see at least two instances in the video where the horses is fighting the riders hand and is FORCED to put his head back down. It can happen when a horse that is not strong enough yet for self carriage to come behind the bit for a moment, but as she says that the horses are all high level performers, they should be supple and respect the bit and not try to escape it by trying to put the nose up as you can see it in the video!!!!!

@vinlee12 14 лет назад

no matter how high you are on the food chain, once you inflict pain, you fail as a horseman...

@sensimarketer 11 лет назад

Anky

@eingallsstella 13 лет назад

hmmm not knowing how long you hyperflex your horse? thats great training right there......NOT

@DJBelbe 14 лет назад

@dreamhorseaustralia I agree with you that it's not natural to teach any creature without any negative reinforcement. However, you can train a horse to be obedient 100% without shutting it down. You can see Phillipe Karl's horses for instance. They are extremely correct and precise and still look vibrant and proud. But the biggest problem with Anky is really her phisicaly detrimental training methods.

@shermoore1693 4 года назад

Poor horse! behind the vertical the whole time. Horrific

@Santner25 7 лет назад

So the purpose of hyperflexion is to supple the horse? WHAT A PUNY EXCUSE !!! Anky Van Grunsven you are an absolute disgrace to the classical dressage principle!! Continuous hyperflexion causes permanent damage to the horse's neck and spine!!! Every horse person with common sense can see that!!! Shame on you Anky!!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

@Katarina1084 4 года назад

Sin duda deberías de ser la vergüenza de la doma clásica . Eso no es entrenamiento ¡Es maltrato!

@donkeyloverforever 13 лет назад

Now everybody, bend your head forward until your chin is on your neck/chest. Now hold it for 3 min. Perhaps this is how the horses feel..

@Julia-mi2ij 3 года назад

Even worse for them. Do that while running and lifting someone/somethign that weighs about 15% of your weight.

@kvznashi 8 лет назад

Hvorfor kan tilskuerne ikke se hvor synd det er for den stakkels hest

@LULABELLAMUSIC 14 лет назад

Can someone please tell me why grand pre horses are ridden in those double bits rather than a snaffle when they claim its 'accepting' the bit? Genuine question, because I have no trouble with my warmblood getting a connection and going in an outline.

@AnEvilBunny 14 лет назад

This reminds me of the quarter horse trend of the "peanut pusher" position. Heads extremely low to the ground. With enough opposition, and compassion, this can be banned as well.

@alzar11 11 лет назад

I'm not by any means a top champion rider, but having been taught classical riding by german and swedish trainers and I find it hard to believe that hyperflexion benefits the horse in any way. Right from the beginning you are taught that the horse's head position is secondary to relaxation and freedom of movement, where as hyperfelxion totally blocks these two things. Ive been taught if you want "variation" in your horse, you let the neck stretch and relax, no matter what level the horse is at.

@IDontCare704 13 лет назад

@ImmortalHappyness God, this used to be about helping the horse to a better working position, to balance the horse by engaging the hind legs, and the effect of doing so was that the horse worked more with its back, and the effect of THAT was that the neck was lengthened and THE EFFECT OF THAT is that the head gets in a more vertical position! That's just the byproduct! Now we're so obssessed with the heads placement, we don't even care if it's damaging! It used to be the other way around.

@DJBelbe 14 лет назад

@dreamhorseaustralia I have all of his videos and have never seen a horse of his in hyperflexion, but in any case I'll explain my point: horses trained in vienna's spanish riding school for ex. are retired at the age of 30 in good health, this is correct gymnastics. As for gold medals,they only mean the horse complies to the judges demands, not anything about what's gymnastically correct. After I saw a piaffe completely on the forehand be awarded with "perfect", I lost my entire faith in them.

@nlbf04 14 лет назад

she seemed like she was truly avoiding the question and just rambling on to try and talk her way out of it. i never got a straight forward answer out of it. also, if she wanted to show how it was done and ride her own horse in the clinic, she probably should have thought twice about that. because even her horse was having troubles keeping his head in that position for too long, it seemed.

@jodelqueen 14 лет назад

I don't get how those people can just ignore all the poofs that this system is not ideal at all for the training of horses. If it weren't so sad I would've started laughing when she said: "Time flies when you're having fun." Fun for whom? Her tortouring the horse or the horse having to walk in a position that's more than unnatural? And I believe that there is no difference in whether Anky does it or someone else. In this case it's about what you do, not how. And the result is the same.

@Seleentje94 11 лет назад

Ofcourse the horse does what you tell him to do. How can a horse stop doing what you tell him if you are pulling his mouth in pieces? You can see him throwing his head and the foam he has on his mouth. Te bit hurts! So he does what you tell him to get rid of the pain. You can only say your horse does what he wants to do when you ride him with a loose (i prefer bitless) bridle

@painthorselover101 11 лет назад

-never tried, or had, to fight me for release. i rode everything from 'stubborn' drafts to 'pain in the ass' ponies and i rarely had a problem because i actually listened to the horse. i didnt ignore them for my own selfish gratification, or for something as stupid as a competition.

@Elliehorselover100 13 лет назад

"when the horses head is high when your riding it, its unhealty" wtf?! rollkur is unhealthy for the horse, think before you speak lady

@kaeso100 14 лет назад

So..... interview tells that Yanky...ooops, I mean, Anky Van Grunsven hasn't 'a clue' how long she rides in hyperflexion?........And 'time flies when your having fun'? I'm sure her horses disagree..... What a disgrace that woman is.

@Leooopeo 14 лет назад

I see her riding, and I almost start to cry, because she hurts her horses and they show that pretty well... And she says that time flies, when you have fun... fun! maybe we should flex her a little... THAT would be no fun for her....