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A suspect who may have betrayed Anne Frank and her family to the Nazis has been identified in a new investigation.
The Jewish diarist died in a Nazi concentration camp in 1945, aged 15, after two years in hiding.
A team of historians and other experts said Arnold van den Bergh, a Jewish figure in Amsterdam, probably "gave up" the Franks to save his own family.
Anne Frank’s diary, published after her death, is the most famous first-hand account of Jewish life during the war.
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@Arch497
@Arch497 Год назад
I think the saddest part about Anne Frank is that she was just months away from surviving. That always hit me the hardest, knowing that she got so close, yet so far.
@thehuman2861
@thehuman2861 Год назад
If she had made it she wouldn't be the Annie Frank we know Her death made her special
@handsonhomestead8461
@handsonhomestead8461 Год назад
Nazi 4th Reich will try to wipe out every Jew on the planet. They want to wipe out the lineage of Messiah. There more to happen. Get ready.
@thethrowawaythatstayed7055
@thethrowawaythatstayed7055 Год назад
That has always gotten to me too. Especially considering her beloved father would have found her. I just don’t think she could go on fighting after losing her sister. She knew her mother was dead and probably thought her father was dead. She died thinking she was all alone in the world. :(
@AjatiMimi
@AjatiMimi Год назад
​@@lucascasey8869The world probably wouldn't have cared if not for her diary...
@lucascasey8869
@lucascasey8869 Год назад
@@AjatiMimi after I wrote that comment I wondered about that, but it is simply not true. There are many other works and museums of the history of the holocaust. I do think it played a pivotal role in notifying the world but I don’t think nobody would have cared
@ntagaramacumu8303
@ntagaramacumu8303 2 года назад
Problem is not the one who betrayed Anne to save himself. The problem is the one who destroyed the person to the point he could be able to sacrifice Anne. I was born during the war in Rwanda. I saw with my eyes, when a parent abandoned their children to save themselves. I saw one who killed his close neighbors. Many betrayed their loved one. I know they loved them but broken.
@rowanredwood9316
@rowanredwood9316 2 года назад
i thought the problem was the fascists
@kinngrimm
@kinngrimm 2 года назад
@@rowanredwood9316 *"The problem is the one who destroyed the person to the point he could be able to sacrifice Anne"* ... which were the fascists in the case of Anne Frank. He just did not name them by a political orientation, but more broadly in terms of those who pressure people into doing awful things.
@mayankdwivedi9719
@mayankdwivedi9719 2 года назад
Sadly, the Rwanda genocide won't be the last! I guess we humans will never learn and won't change.
@Wilko710
@Wilko710 2 года назад
@@mayankdwivedi9719 heard of camp speicher?
@giuliof.989
@giuliof.989 2 года назад
I cant understend a parent Who leaves their children.
@Ltsoftware3139
@Ltsoftware3139 2 года назад
I think calling him a betrayer is misrepresenting the situation. I don't expect other people to sacrifice their family, wife and children for me. The fact that this man wrote a letter to her father shows he felt bad for her.
@riyasingh2729
@riyasingh2729 2 года назад
Oh pls he was totally a betrayer, doing something so horrible, apologing doesn't means he is justified for doing something so horrible
@LGOrtiz-c6n
@LGOrtiz-c6n 2 года назад
@@riyasingh2729 He was saving his own family man. What part of that you don't understand?
@Ltsoftware3139
@Ltsoftware3139 2 года назад
@@riyasingh2729 In the other case he would of betrayed his family, for which he was responsible and actually made a promise to protect. Every mother and father would put their child first, that's how nature works and should work
@tearfvlcloudz__.973
@tearfvlcloudz__.973 2 года назад
@@riyasingh2729 and if he chose Anne he is still a betrayer to his own family
@tearfvlcloudz__.973
@tearfvlcloudz__.973 2 года назад
@@riyasingh2729 did you even read the comment at all
@foggy561
@foggy561 Год назад
My grandfather's best friend survived the atrocities of the concentration camps. He used to say "The worst of us survived the camps. The best of us died almost immediately by refusing to put their own survival before others". He wouldn't have been surprised at all by the Frank family being betrayed by one of their own because he witnessed what people were willing to do to survive
@sammycakes8778
@sammycakes8778 Год назад
Not really a surprise if you look at other people put in harsh prison like conditions like Andersonville where some soldiers killed their own just to survive.
@williambo5989
@williambo5989 Год назад
very true statement
@jaydenrodriguez1752
@jaydenrodriguez1752 Год назад
Has he said what happened in the camps?
@hibye671
@hibye671 Год назад
That cut deep
@megan893
@megan893 Год назад
Wow, that's amazingly honest. Makes perfect sense. Thanks for sharing
@krzysiekniemiec6854
@krzysiekniemiec6854 2 года назад
Calling him a traitor in every other sentence is inconsiderate to say the least, we can't know the horrors these people lived through.
@Presidentofthepresident
@Presidentofthepresident 2 года назад
Exactly. It was either them or him
@Presidentofthepresident
@Presidentofthepresident 2 года назад
And his family
@i_love_rescue_animals
@i_love_rescue_animals 2 года назад
@@Presidentofthepresident I was going to say the same! It was a no-win situation - and if it was him, I would imagine he lived with the terrible guilt and shame for the rest of his life.
@joshk.4470
@joshk.4470 2 года назад
The part that bugs me is that the press straight up admits several times that they don't know if he did it, and that they cannot prove it even with very circumstantial evidence. But they still threw his name under the bus anyways. How is this newsworthy? They basically admit they have nothing useful to say, but give people a chance to go after this guys descendents and slander him while their at it.
@sylviabennan
@sylviabennan 2 года назад
@Josh Agreed, plus in the grand scheme of things the most important question isn’t who turned in Anne Frank’s family but rather who started the sick, horrific war and hunted the Jewish in the first place. For this news video, we need to remember who the REAL enemy was.
@errortryagainlater4240
@errortryagainlater4240 2 года назад
It's kind of disgusting to out someone's identity just based on suspicion and calling them a traitor every other sentence, ngl.
@jean6872
@jean6872 2 года назад
People want to know. It is a big story.
@winterbearmia7206
@winterbearmia7206 2 года назад
What do you think of Anne frank? Btw, im mia!
@Fridge_Fiend
@Fridge_Fiend 2 года назад
Also the fact that he was tortured and they threatned to kill his wife and kids. Who wouldn't have done the same?
@AW-sx8hm
@AW-sx8hm 2 года назад
@@jean6872 someone *wrote* a big story and is trying to peddle his crummy books. There's no new information, there are no modern techniques, and the BBC is just helping the writer advertise.
@yeudylove2820
@yeudylove2820 2 года назад
​@@jean6872 doesn't justify accusing someone without proofs.
@REdds-ws4ll
@REdds-ws4ll 2 года назад
Anyone who thinks if they were in the shoes of the other, would not have betrayed Anne, knows little about the human condition. It is a tragedy on all fronts.
@i_love_rescue_animals
@i_love_rescue_animals 2 года назад
Yes, shamefully, I admit, if it were my life and the life of my family, I probably would have given them up too. It would take a complete Saint to sacrifice yourself AND your WHOLE family for another. The whole thing is just tragic beyond words. Also, I believe Anne only missed being saved by a couple weeks.
@camd4648
@camd4648 2 года назад
It's the same thing as saying "If I was a German in Nazi Germany, I would've fought against the Nazi Party." When in reality, most people alive today, would've been touting the Swastika, and spitting on jews. It's distrubing really, and even more disturbing when you realize it could easily happen again if circumstances are right.
@DR-nh6oo
@DR-nh6oo 2 года назад
I still like to think I wouldn’t, but I accept that I likely might.
@brianfeuerman1732
@brianfeuerman1732 2 года назад
@@camd4648 It sort of is already. Don’t forget what the CCP is doing to Muslims.
@camd4648
@camd4648 2 года назад
@@brianfeuerman1732 Unfortunately, we tend to turn a blind eye to things outside of our own sphere. The CCP has been guilty of committing atrocities against all walks of life and people, and do to this day. I absolutely agree.
@bl3313
@bl3313 Год назад
Anne would be 94 today if she had survived the war and lived a long life. My mother is 98 and still living and I know older people than that.
@KumariKumari-fw7nc
@KumariKumari-fw7nc Год назад
Give my kind regards to your mom..
@RobLower-b6d
@RobLower-b6d 7 месяцев назад
She died of fever
@aegisalttt
@aegisalttt 7 месяцев назад
@@RobLower-b6dno? Lmao
@kytesav
@kytesav 7 месяцев назад
@@RobLower-b6dtyphus
@HerrKommandant1161
@HerrKommandant1161 7 месяцев назад
@@RobLower-b6dtyphus got her
@elsakristina2689
@elsakristina2689 2 года назад
The fact that this informant was Jewish himself and forced to betray Anne in order to save his own family’s lives… it’s honestly one of the most chilling and disturbing things I’ve ever heard.
@amirudinadnan7024
@amirudinadnan7024 2 года назад
No one care. This shit happen every day in the middle east.
@BarbarianKing2964
@BarbarianKing2964 2 года назад
@@amirudinadnan7024 doesn’t make this scenario any less horrific
@salag13
@salag13 2 года назад
@@amirudinadnan7024 Ok, 1. A lot of people care. To say "no one cares" is not only despicable, but also factually incorrect. 2. Your English is horrible.
@braddo7270
@braddo7270 2 года назад
@@amirudinadnan7024 the difference is the middle east does it to themselves. Why do you think we would care about people who marry kids and hurt women and who execute LGBT people and atheists?
@braddo7270
@braddo7270 2 года назад
@@salag13 these idiots are everywhere. Think we are going to do something about the mess they made for themselves 🤣 muslims saying "I don't care about the holocaust cos muslims suffer" is so common... except they suffer because of their own idiotic ideology.
@tourmalinecrack874
@tourmalinecrack874 2 года назад
Let’s not forget the real villain here is the Nazis. Their actions are the reason terrible, terrible things like this happened.
@nate5859
@nate5859 2 года назад
@Ronald Jones not even comparible considering palestinians launch missiles at israel
@charlotterepasky1675
@charlotterepasky1675 2 года назад
@@nate5859 In self defense. Would you blame the Jews for launching missiles at the Nazis?
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 2 года назад
The centre Right should of done more to pushback against Communism. It failed and people moved Right.
@tega588
@tega588 2 года назад
That is exactly what I was saying. Not the poor guy who had to chose whether his family lives or dies.
@coldcrush5921
@coldcrush5921 2 года назад
The real villians are the bankers that set these things in motion.
@tarabooartarmy3654
@tarabooartarmy3654 Год назад
I can’t imagine the pain of having to betray the trust of another family like this to save your own. What a horrible cross to have to bear.
@truthseeker6532
@truthseeker6532 9 месяцев назад
To think, that is going to happen again with Satan's final Empire of Europe (10 Nations) to come with Germany being the Head Nation of it. Embargo system of Sunday will be placed upon the world and what HAPPENED TO ANNE FRANK is going to be global. For those who do not follow Satan's counterfeit Sunday Sabbath to Gods True Sabbath of Fri. Sunset until Sat. sunset will not be able to buy nor sell on the Earth and will be turned in like ANNA FRANK was/hunted down and killed for choosing God over Satan or not following Satan either way.
@EverydayEboni
@EverydayEboni 2 года назад
This man was a victim of his circumstances, not a betrayer or traitor. Most people will turn on you based on public opinion or fame. Unfortunately this was a matter of life and death and a real breakdown in humanity. People shouldn't have been put in that type of predicament anyways, if we're discussing choices and morals. The entire Holocaust was sickening. From the medical experiments with Mengele to the selling of the hair of Jews as fabric.
@hennygod8032
@hennygod8032 2 года назад
Everyone makes a trade once in their life
@TheStockwell
@TheStockwell 2 года назад
@Jeremy Purdue Um, no. The diary wasn't written with a ballpoint pen. That's just a worn-out denialist lie a lot of ignorant morons are eager to swallow. The “ballpoint myth” is based on the simple fact that, around 1960, two annotation sheets with ballpoint writing were inserted between the original pages. These texts were written by a graphological researcher, and are not included in any edition of the diary. All the diary entries are written in various types of ink and (coloured) pencil, not in ballpoint. The document analysis by the Netherlands Forensic Institute showed that the main part of the diary and the loose sheets were written in grey-blue fountain pen ink. Better luck with your next lie, goofy. 😺
@katebasket8306
@katebasket8306 2 года назад
@Jeremy Purdue whats the point of this
@msmaj4895
@msmaj4895 2 года назад
In 1980, because of a lawsuit in a German court, the German state forensic bureau, the Bundes Kriminal Amt [BKA], forensically examined the original “diary” manuscript. Their analysis determined that “significant” portions of the work were written with a ballpoint pen. Since ballpoint pens were not available before 1951, portions of the work were added well after the war (Anne Frank died in March 1945). The BKA also determined that none of the “diary” handwriting matched known examples of Anne’s handwriting. Earlier handwriting experts had determined that all of the writing in the “diary” was by the same hand. Therefore, the entire “diary” was a postwar fake. The true author of the diary was Jewish novelist Meyer Levin, who demanded and was awarded $50,000 in payment for his work in a court action against Anne’s father, Otto Frank.
@NASkeywest
@NASkeywest 2 года назад
Just like we see with vaccine mandates
@ef1876
@ef1876 2 года назад
I was nine when I read Anne’s diary and she always seemed so grown up but watching this it’s just hitting me how young she actually is. I’m now older than Anne ever got to be.
@shoazdon7000
@shoazdon7000 2 года назад
Personally I don’t think kids should be reading that stuff until they’re older, the boy In the striped pajamas was a traumatic film to watch
@keyboardwarrior7538
@keyboardwarrior7538 2 года назад
@@shoazdon7000 I remember watching that and the teachers before putting it on saying it's not accurate one bit 😂
@Void-yn3sj
@Void-yn3sj 2 года назад
@@shoazdon7000 I personally read her diary and the boy in the striped pajamas when I was very young and I kinda agree
@bug3518
@bug3518 2 года назад
I think it was good for me at a young age the shock of learning of those events allowed me to see the world for what it can be a cruel evil place full of people who will blindly follow the masses or turn a blind eye to things they don't want to see. when its taught at a young age it gets deeply engrained in our minds and because of that it would be a hopeful deterrent for history to repeat itself. I don't know maybe I was the exception and not the rule, after I learned of the holocaust I did in depth research on what happened in those camps as well as what the Imperial Japanese did which in some cases was worse than what the Nazis were doing, check out Unit 731 or their "comfort women/girls" which were sex slaves given to the Japanese service men from raids of neighboring countries. They would go to poor areas and kill the men and boys while capturing the women it rarely gets talked about ask anyone about the atrocities of WWII and you'll hear about the horrible things the Nazi's did and all most will bring up about the Japanese is pearl harbor. I don't know why it's so rarely brought up especially in the education system I had to find that out on my own something that terrible should be talked about.
@Void-yn3sj
@Void-yn3sj 2 года назад
@@bug3518 yea that's a tru. I also saw close to the same things and it's important to know the past even if it's horrible to prevent it
@ey7290
@ey7290 2 года назад
Very dangerous game to play, "suspected" doesn't mean guilty, and no way of possibly knowing if he was the one to rat them out. If he is innocent then you've destroyed the reputation of an entire family based on no solid proof
@Sebastianator01
@Sebastianator01 2 года назад
Then pray he isn’t innocent.
@AlbertAdamsLincoln
@AlbertAdamsLincoln 2 года назад
He was in the Nazi Jewish council, how was that innocent. It basically a organization that planning deporting Jew to camp or administrative ghetto.
@ronmartin1375
@ronmartin1375 2 года назад
Was she vaxed?
@ishaagni7199
@ishaagni7199 2 года назад
@@ronmartin1375 vaxed with what
@ronmartin1375
@ronmartin1375 2 года назад
@@ishaagni7199 Alt-left woke SJWS have made it their mission to dox, arrest & send to camps the un-vaxed. It’s disgusting. 🎵🎵Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord🇺🇸🇺🇸🗽🗽 One free man defending his home is worth more than ten hired antifa. First thing taliban/antifa (anti-freedom) does is force women to wear masks, force people to stay inside, ban guns, burn US flags, chant death to America. Alt-left were the ones building the camps and lighting the gas. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Castro. Lots of sad idols in leftist history. Now the taliban. Ideology is not an alt-left strong point. Good thing Americans had the morality, duty and strength to stop such wickedness.
@IS34PreteristForce
@IS34PreteristForce Год назад
When I was a child, I thought the man who betrayed Anne Frank and the other 8 people in the Annex was someone completely beyond redemption, but after watching this, it completely changed my perspective. He was just doing what he had to do to survive. If he didn’t reveal the information about Anne Frank and her family, he and his own family probably would have been executed. So he was just doing what he had to do to survive. People would be betrayed no matter what he did.
@asintonic
@asintonic 10 месяцев назад
HALF of that diary was written by oskar frank annes father. acknowledged by the anne frank foundation. all lies
@eternalhatred666
@eternalhatred666 9 месяцев назад
Don't care. She had white privilege anyways.
@celphalonred1999
@celphalonred1999 9 месяцев назад
Shit. You're right....
@thejudge8892
@thejudge8892 9 месяцев назад
Justification is just looking yourself in the mirror, right?.!
@bayoen9819
@bayoen9819 9 месяцев назад
Why is this comment almost exactly like someones comment (3 comments) above yours
@BlockO008
@BlockO008 2 года назад
As a kid, I always imagined the person who ratted out Anne’s family to be someone vile, sinister or unforgivable to no redemption, however, it’s seems as if they were just another product of their time of someone who was unfortunately put in the same situation as thousands of other living during the Holocaust. I can’t even fathom having to pick over the safety of my own family in comparison to another, but my heart will always go out to both families & any others who were affected by this terrible time in human history.
@shadybutnotslim
@shadybutnotslim 2 года назад
Hannah Arendt talks exactly about this. It's called 'the banality of evil'- how ordinary people can perform the most evil acts simply because of the extremist situations around them.
@anarcho-communist11
@anarcho-communist11 2 года назад
@@shadybutnotslim It's not always that circumstances make good people act badly. Sometimes people's real selfishness is revealed during hard times. Anyone can be nice when things are going well.
@jatinbangar4371
@jatinbangar4371 2 года назад
She wrote a book so she is more important than the person -bbc
@ninabarakat6200
@ninabarakat6200 2 года назад
@@anarcho-communist11 nope. it’s only the opposite. circumstances bring out potential. never the other way around
@kevinrod14
@kevinrod14 2 года назад
Dang you were close minded 😂 should’ve been common sense.. especially for the time period, everyone had to save themselves first. Can’t blame anyone for choosing to live. Glad you wised up!
@taz-on-the-looseyusef5526
@taz-on-the-looseyusef5526 2 года назад
Imagine hiding with your entire family from murderers, the case of Anne Frank has always disturbed me so much, rest in heaven little one,
@user-ro8eo6yf2g
@user-ro8eo6yf2g 2 года назад
Nobody gets away with anything because later in life you'll have to pay for your transgressions and the things you do against others so hopefully the person who betrayed this young girl will have to deal with being betrayed themselves
@CraftyShawn
@CraftyShawn 2 года назад
Those was disturbing times
@amirudinadnan7024
@amirudinadnan7024 2 года назад
No one care. This shit happen every day in the middle east.
@Sikyu-ye4ns
@Sikyu-ye4ns 2 года назад
a cancer is a cancer even at 13
@aricalifornia6272
@aricalifornia6272 2 года назад
They weren't murderers they were just following orders. You would've done it too
@socramzetroc1535
@socramzetroc1535 2 года назад
I read her diary and was heartbreaking It is horrible how war changes lives and does not respect ages. She was a young girl like many many others who suffer war even to this very day.
@BobbyB24601
@BobbyB24601 2 года назад
It always saddens and confuses me when I see pictures of the trains being loaded with people, and small children being passed onto the rail carts. How did those soldiers rationalize the monstrous act they were doing.
@kemo2547
@kemo2547 2 года назад
Her diary is a folk story, its not accurate or real
@sticky59
@sticky59 2 года назад
@@kemo2547 I believe it was proven a couple of years back that the father wrote at least 1/2 of it.
@kemo2547
@kemo2547 2 года назад
@@sticky59 yeah he definitely didnt smuggle a diary up his keister unless og mudbone is a time traveler
@metalicminer6231
@metalicminer6231 2 года назад
Exept she didn't write it,
@TheJudiBambiPurrsParadox
@TheJudiBambiPurrsParadox 11 месяцев назад
*My soul aches for both families and making a decision that brings horrific consequences for an entire family with either choice must be agonizing...especially since both families contained children. The perhaps worst part is they were mere months away from freedom for both families, but did not know that at the time, obviously. The current situation just brings up this story once again, and 'they' can ban this story all they want, it's all over the internet and will always be known.*
@cagneybillingsley2165
@cagneybillingsley2165 10 месяцев назад
they should portray anne frank as black in the movie about her life because they're making every other white historical figure black, why not start with jews too?
@MC_73
@MC_73 10 месяцев назад
*BOLD*
@asintonic
@asintonic 10 месяцев назад
HALF of that diary was written by oskar frank annes father. acknowledged by the anne frank foundation. all lies
@TheJudiBambiPurrsParadox
@TheJudiBambiPurrsParadox 10 месяцев назад
@suz4359 I DO read books. Why are you chastising me?
@TheJudiBambiPurrsParadox
@TheJudiBambiPurrsParadox 10 месяцев назад
@suz4359 what are you babbling about? What are you even talking about? I can't state an opinion for fear you might like it?
@Bellthorian
@Bellthorian 2 года назад
It is easy to condemn Mr. Vandenburg but until you have walked a mile in his shoes try and avoid passing judgement. If it came down to protecting your family over people you don't know most people would do exactly the same thing. I am not saying he was right, it was a despicable act but none of us will know what pressures he was under that caused him to make such a choice.
@lauriewise6271
@lauriewise6271 2 года назад
IF YOU BETRAY HUMANITY THEN EXPECT HUMANITY TO CONDEMN YOU. Save your skin with the Nazi then suffer their fate.
@psychadelicpotato8580
@psychadelicpotato8580 2 года назад
@@lauriewise6271 huh?
@Bellthorian
@Bellthorian 2 года назад
@@lauriewise6271 It is easy to SAY don't betray someone to save your skin. It is something entirely different to actually do it and sacrifice the lives of your family and yourself in the process. If I was in that situation and my families very survival depended on me keeping them safe I would probably use any tool at my disposal to do so. I think most people would do the same. So do not judge him to harshly.
@nlcrr1617
@nlcrr1617 2 года назад
If anything, we should commend him. He saved his family's life, he still saved lives. He didn't directly kill the Frank family, he's a hero to the people he saved
@richadambudgen7520
@richadambudgen7520 2 года назад
I personally don't think it is right that his name has been linked to this act as he's not around to defend himself and its all based on circumstantial evidence. No doubt someone is making money out of this just like people do selling books naming who jack the ripper was based on flimsy ideas.
@ItsEliza5
@ItsEliza5 2 года назад
Calling someone a traitor based off of circumstantial evidence is honestly disrespectful in my opinion,because imagine they’re not guilty and we all just accept it. I feel awful for his family due to that issue, like imagine no matter how hard you say my relative didn’t do this no one would listen to you. as much as I would like to know who did it because I’m always curious about these things I’d like to find it out not at cost of pointing fingers and saying it was a he said she said type scenario! Edit: wow this absolutely blew the HECK up! Thank you all for that and also I have a lot of comments under this one and I just want remind everyone I’m open to discussing this but keep it respectful and on the point. I’ve seen many comments de-rail the subject entirely. I understand this topic has a very thin rope to walk across and sometimes people fall by mistake but please just keep it respectful. I wanted to say something about it,thank you :) (I also fixed a few things in the original comments because I wrote it late at night and what i say then can sometimes be hard to understand)
@AbhishekKumar-xx7li
@AbhishekKumar-xx7li 2 года назад
True, and this discretion should be pinned or put in the title of the video. Better to free thousand guilty than to accuse someone honest. Solid proof is needed to come to such conclusion.
@illivanilli364
@illivanilli364 2 года назад
Unfortunately this is the age we live in. Due process doesn't exist, you are guilty until proven innocent and the only court that matters is the court of public opinion. It's sad honestly.
@ItsEliza5
@ItsEliza5 2 года назад
@@AbhishekKumar-xx7li yeah I agree this stuff is a very big claim and it makes me irritated saying that this one person did it based off of like one thing!
@ItsEliza5
@ItsEliza5 2 года назад
@@illivanilli364 yeah and then if people just dig into the sand and plug their ears it can be even harder to convince someone
@HoboTango
@HoboTango 2 года назад
And honestly... Who here would let themselves and their own family die if they had the choice between them or another family. It's a cruel cruel world sometimes and I'm not about to look down on someone on a decision we would have most likely taken ourselves. Who killed the Frank family ? The Nazis.
@josho8436
@josho8436 2 года назад
Okay IF this was actually true and he gave up the Frank family to protect his own. It’s the logical choice here. But also I think he lived with that guilt and suffered with it all the way to his grave. Very tragic all round.
@RenneDanjoule
@RenneDanjoule 2 года назад
Mustache man was financed by 2 zionist bankers. And the 2 architects of the holodeck were you know whos. Churchill asked the loyal National you know whos to rise up and prove that Bolshevism wasnt a you know who phenomenon. Unfortunately for all of us, the previous 2 generations have failed to stay the course, and we are now descending into Bolshevism.
@msmaj4895
@msmaj4895 2 года назад
In 1980, because of a lawsuit in a German court, the German state forensic bureau, the Bundes Kriminal Amt [BKA], forensically examined the original “diary” manuscript. Their analysis determined that “significant” portions of the work were written with a ballpoint pen. Since ballpoint pens were not available before 1951, portions of the work were added well after the war (Anne Frank died in March 1945). The BKA also determined that none of the “diary” handwriting matched known examples of Anne’s handwriting. Earlier handwriting experts had determined that all of the writing in the “diary” was by the same hand. Therefore, the entire “diary” was a postwar fake. The true author of the diary was Jewish novelist Meyer Levin, who demanded and was awarded $50,000 in payment for his work in a court action against Anne’s father, Otto Frank. You can look up these court cases...very old and well documented. It is astonishing how they are recycling the lies that were already proven to be lies.
@lukelim5094
@lukelim5094 2 года назад
Oh god it is not logical. It is still evil. Even if it is true everyone place their family above others. It is still a evil thing to do. Sure we can feel bad for the guy's situation. But calling it logical means half of you all is willing to do the same thing as him when the chips is down. But if you have any sense of morality and humanity, you will feel terrible about it. So it is not logical either way. It is insane and tragic either way. I will rather die than be reminded i participate in child murder , i want to sleep well at night. What kind of horrific life is that.
@josho8436
@josho8436 2 года назад
@@lukelim5094 yeah but remember it’s also not just your life at stake. Your whole bloodline as well are in trouble along with the Frank family. So I absolutely understand his decision.
@achyuththouta6957
@achyuththouta6957 2 года назад
So you're supporting cowardice and lack of moral values? If he was given such choices he should have fought head on aggressively. Not just give up. Who gives up like that.
@DoggosAndJiuJitsu
@DoggosAndJiuJitsu 8 месяцев назад
Why in the world would you: 1) Call a man a suspect for trying to save his family. 2) Admit you don’t actually know but still name someone?
@UrSammich
@UrSammich 7 месяцев назад
It's based around theories and rough evidence. They can't be certain and unless the family of the person who betrayed them long ago comes out (which is still possible), we won't fully know. It wouldn't surprise me that this might likely be the case as back then rating someone else to save your own isn't exactly a foolish decision. It was a tough choice to make and certainly begs to question morals. I do agree though that putting out the family to what is considered just a theory is a bit too much. Even then I don't blame the family's ancestor for what had to be done or in their minds. War times were just horrible.
@DoggosAndJiuJitsu
@DoggosAndJiuJitsu 7 месяцев назад
@@UrSammich I agree. That’s why I have an issue issue with the video.
@hamie7624
@hamie7624 4 месяца назад
Suspect just means someone who is suspected of something, regardless of the reason they did what they did.
@DoggosAndJiuJitsu
@DoggosAndJiuJitsu 4 месяца назад
@@hamie7624 The connotation speaks for itself.
@hamie7624
@hamie7624 4 месяца назад
@@DoggosAndJiuJitsu no, it literally doesn't. No one thinks he's some "diverse urban youth" or something. He's just a guy *suspected* of ratting them out...aka a suspect. However, we can all be relieved in the knowledge that Anne frank wasn't even a real person and this tragedy was made up.
@vladimir8365
@vladimir8365 2 года назад
The question everyone needs to ask themselves; would you betray someone to save your family?
@cloakedsniper5016
@cloakedsniper5016 2 года назад
Easy yes
@debojitrabha2502
@debojitrabha2502 2 года назад
Thats a no brainer. Unless you want to kill your family. But there is no right answer.
@An_ony_mous
@An_ony_mous 2 года назад
Nope. I would save both. I can never take betrayal.
@amberanubis8336
@amberanubis8336 2 года назад
@@An_ony_mous this was not a video game but real life and he couldnt save both. And neither could you in same situation you are not a god
@kemo2547
@kemo2547 2 года назад
@@cloakedsniper5016 because youre a coward “cloaked sniper” i thought you were a sniper?
@tarot-karma-online
@tarot-karma-online 2 года назад
Honestly, press should be ashamed to state something like that with a name to it, without proof. The note could have been written from anybody, and is not proof. Nobody knows what happened, specially after such a long time.
@slinger7529
@slinger7529 2 года назад
The press don't have an ounce of humanity
@Junomaster2006
@Junomaster2006 2 года назад
What did you expect from the left?
@tacosmexicanstyle7846
@tacosmexicanstyle7846 2 года назад
What do you think the word ‘suspect’ means. There literally is proof, but you cannot put a dead person on trial to get an actual verdict.
@italiangarbageposting
@italiangarbageposting 2 года назад
@BAT THINK The De' ez united militia is very dangerous too actually, much more dangerous.
@ferrisulf
@ferrisulf 2 года назад
Due to how little information they've released, it makes me wish they hadn't given a name. The man may be dead, but he has descendants. If it was my grandfather, I would want someone to be sure before they call the news stations. If it was him, then it was him. But the way this whole thing was presented didn't do this 'breakthrough' justice.
@GroudFrank
@GroudFrank 2 года назад
This. Well said. This is my biggest issue with this. The evidence is circumstantial at best.
@jenniferhiemstra5228
@jenniferhiemstra5228 2 года назад
@@GroudFrank The top former FBI employee who’s been on this since 2016 has said the same, so it’s not like he’s saying there’s no doubt. He knows a lot of this is circumstantial, believes he has solid evidence, but is aware that solving this to find “who” without any trace of doubt is very unlikely at this point, if not impossible.
@ronmartin1375
@ronmartin1375 2 года назад
Typical woke SJW cancel culture. 🎵🎵Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord🇺🇸🇺🇸🗽🗽 One free man defending his home is worth more than ten hired antifa. First thing taliban/antifa (anti-freedom) does is force women to wear masks, force people to stay inside, ban guns, burn US flags, chant death to America. Alt-left were the ones building the camps and lighting the gas. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Castro. Lots of sad idols in leftist history. Now the taliban. Ideology is not an alt-left strong point.
@penelopeasmr1009
@penelopeasmr1009 2 года назад
It’s honestly despicable that they are even phrasing it how they are in the title. Let’s condemn the ones who deserve it, not this other victim.
@bighands69
@bighands69 2 года назад
Welcome to modern media people. Where they just proclaim something with zero research and very little evidence.
@cwang9915
@cwang9915 10 месяцев назад
If you read "Nothing to Envy" stories of North Korean survivors you come to realize that the nicest people died first in the North Korean famine. Those that shared food, shared resources would die. Those that were cutthroat and stole survived. Similar stories came out of the holocaust, the famine in China. I tell my wife she would be the first to go in such a crisis because of her kind heart. Survival of the fittest in these instances means that the ultimate survivors go on to breed and the result is a group of people whose personality changed versus a group that wasn't exposed to such horror. Over decades North Koreans vs South Koreans, although originally genetically the same, may have very different genetic personalities.
@221b-l3t
@221b-l3t 10 месяцев назад
Same thing in war. The brave ones die first, the cowards live.
@OpalLeigh
@OpalLeigh 9 месяцев назад
Nothing to Envy is an amazing book:) I remember one of the stories where a teacher watches a young girl starve to death in her classroom 😢 but she (the teacher) never gives the girl her own food. At the end of the day, the teacher’s tiny bit of food would never be enough to feed all the hungry children that surrounded them 😔 If anyone is interested, another profound book on the topic (and specific to the Jewish Holocaust) is The Drowned and the Saved by Primo Levi. I cannot recommend Levi’s writing enough, and I’m a big enough person to admit that like your wife 😉 I wouldn’t have survived in that kind of situation.
@JungleLibrary
@JungleLibrary 8 месяцев назад
Genetic personalities? I'd have just left it at personalities or culture tbh, it still serves your point. Although we won't definitively know the impact of nature vs nurture on personality for years to come, nurture has a solidly proven correlation to future outcomes. However some of the bedrock claims of evolutionary psychology have come to be heavily questioned, if not totally discredited by consensus due to flawed methodologies, bad assumptions, and issues with reproducibility.
@221b-l3t
@221b-l3t 8 месяцев назад
@@JungleLibrary Ah I remember evolutionary psychology, it all sounded so good but the methodology consisted of smoking a fatty and disguising your stoner discussions as scientific publications.
@BalmforthGG
@BalmforthGG 8 месяцев назад
Selective breeding cannot defeat your dna. We contain the genes of ancestors from 50,000 years ago. The fact that your grandad had no sandwiches and mine did, does not rubber stamp our types.
@Dash101
@Dash101 2 года назад
This only makes the whole ordeal more heartbreaking. Because if (as we'll never know for sure) this account is true, this is a story of another cornered family and a man having to betray those who trusted him in order to save himself and his loved ones.
@flabioperez5561
@flabioperez5561 2 года назад
No I’m better than you
@adudeontheinternet8246
@adudeontheinternet8246 2 года назад
I am sans undertale
@sammy4282
@sammy4282 2 года назад
I am your mom
@RenneDanjoule
@RenneDanjoule 2 года назад
Mustache man was financed by 2 zionist bankers. And the 2 architects of the holodeck were you know whos. Churchill asked the loyal National you know whos to rise up and prove that Bolshevism wasnt a you know who phenomenon. Unfortunately for all of us, the previous 2 generations have failed to stay the course, and we are now descending into Bolshevism.
@benski98
@benski98 2 года назад
Everyone who says they wouldn't do the same thing never has any idea of what they would do in those situations.
@ramshafatima7178
@ramshafatima7178 2 года назад
It's sad that her fate is repeated in one way or the other in numerous parts of the world and worse is horrifying
@jackvenables4981
@jackvenables4981 2 года назад
agreed just look at the anti Semitic hate that still comes out of the muslim countries every day.
@TheApplianceDirect
@TheApplianceDirect 2 года назад
@@jackvenables4981 Or the muslim concentration camps in china.
@pepehimovic3135
@pepehimovic3135 2 года назад
It makes no sense playing victim. Study history from around the world, you’ll know it’s clear these things are very common. The concent du ration camps seem to only happen when there’s large amounts of the unwanted minority. Example, look what happened to the Afro Korean kids in South Korea after the Korean War. The government pressured people to abort or hand over their “mixed” babies to international adoption groups in an effort to “eliminate” them. If that was no option and mixed were not in a manageable number, you can guess what would’ve come next. Probably cleansing. Somalia, Rwanda, Japan, Turkey, Germany this trend happens all so often. The only ones you’ll hear about are the ones which the victim group became was so significant in number (like the aforementioned and today China) the government can’t work silently to eliminate them.
@Junomaster2006
@Junomaster2006 2 года назад
@@pepehimovic3135 blm will always play the victim though & most likely say that Anne is racist.
@ami8713
@ami8713 2 года назад
@@Junomaster2006 bruh what
@truthreignsforever9286
@truthreignsforever9286 Год назад
Such a sad story. Seeing how happy she was in those pictures of hers is very harrowing when realizing how she descended from those feelings of what she once was
@Alinda1308
@Alinda1308 2 года назад
"It's the story of a man who was cornered". Exactly. So why are you calling it a betrayal? He practically didn't have a choice. I can only imagine how he felt in that situation
@musicman5664
@musicman5664 2 года назад
It’s a better headline
@k4le964
@k4le964 2 года назад
he did have a choice, her family or his. that’s cowardly
@masterbeta6931
@masterbeta6931 2 года назад
@@k4le964 So give up his family for hers?
@k4le964
@k4le964 2 года назад
@@masterbeta6931 he was jewish. he was a target no matter what, all he did was prolong his capture at the expense of someone else’s. if he got caught he should have realized that he doesn’t get brownie points for snitching because nazis don’t have souls. he gained nothing and now has to live with knowing he got an entire family killed. a family just like his. dude is a coward. it’s like siblings who rat on each and both get trouble cowardly and stupid
@countessmargoth469
@countessmargoth469 2 года назад
@@k4le964 It's easy to think you would have courage and principles in such a situation, but experiencing an impossible choice is something very different. Presuming he was indeed the man who snitched her out, he is not the true villain of this story. What of the men who cornered him, the men who dragged a young girl to a concentration camp, the men who killed her, and lastly the state who made such violence possible? Any one of these people could have disobeyed, but either through cowardice or conviction they chose not to.
@hasooyoung3939
@hasooyoung3939 2 года назад
why is he the villain??? isnt the villain hitler? and the nazi soldiers who did this to anne frank? who threatened the dude's family?? he's just as much the victim of all this as anne was. he didn't want to hurt anyone they literally threatened his family. he's not the one at fault for it.
@wastedproductions45
@wastedproductions45 2 года назад
So if a Nazi told you to shoot your family, you'd do it? Yikes.
@thatoneguy4573
@thatoneguy4573 2 года назад
@@wastedproductions45 and somehow you completely missed the point, I’m honestly not surprised anymore.
@lunadead
@lunadead 2 года назад
@@wastedproductions45 This is literally a choice between your family and someone you are acquainted to... why would you save someone that you don't know as well as your family? Would you keep your mouth shut to see them shoot your loved ones? No, you wouldn't, so criticizing a man that is forced into choosing family life or someone random person you know is just dumb and childish
@wastedproductions45
@wastedproductions45 2 года назад
@@lunadead So you would shoot your kid if it meant you get to live, good to know.
@wastedproductions45
@wastedproductions45 2 года назад
@@thatoneguy4573 So Anne deserved to die?
@willswalkingwest7267
@willswalkingwest7267 2 года назад
So the title of the video SHOULD be, "Anne Frank Betrayal Suspect Possibly Identified after 77 Years".
@georgielancaster1356
@georgielancaster1356 2 года назад
... along with an equally likely suspect who has shared 'likely betrayer' title from the start - and allowing for it to be a totally unexpected, unknown informer, as well. It might have been both likeliest betrayers who BOTH informed. Until there is REAL new definitive evidence, we live with LIKELY but never to be known, on at least 2 people. This is just clickbait No new evidence. Just clickbait.
@priceandpride
@priceandpride 2 года назад
Or just not say anything
@ald1050
@ald1050 2 года назад
Arnold could even be innocent.
@hidum5779
@hidum5779 2 года назад
@@georgielancaster1356 yep. BBC is trash
@jazzoboe44
@jazzoboe44 2 года назад
@@georgielancaster1356 It's worse than clickbait. It's potentially smearing the name and memory of people who may not be guilty. But hey, this is the type of journalism I've come to expect from BBC these days.
@warriorinagardenianbradbur6109
@warriorinagardenianbradbur6109 7 месяцев назад
“What I could be if only there were no other people in the world.” Heart breaking.
@kezia8835
@kezia8835 2 года назад
In the same situation I think a lot of people would throw another family under the bus to save their own. I think it's mean to vilify someone when the circumstances were horrific.
@kam5925
@kam5925 2 года назад
The horrific circumstances do NOT make the conduct any less criminal or lessen the betrayal. Makes me wonder, whomever it was, how did they live with themselves afterwards.
@memezoffuckery3207
@memezoffuckery3207 2 года назад
@@kam5925 Nah mate, you’re virtual singling lmao
@annmendes1361
@annmendes1361 2 года назад
@@kam5925 doesn’t lessen the betrayal but you can at least understand why they did it. It’s either your family or theirs. You can’t tell me you’d let your family die in a concentration camp to save another? They were able to live with themselves knowing they saved their own
@rangerswing
@rangerswing 2 года назад
@@kam5925 stop with the virtue signalling.
@robertlaube574
@robertlaube574 2 года назад
I would, with my own hands.
@glitterfartsss
@glitterfartsss 2 года назад
I clicked thinking it was a fully sinister evil person who gave them up, and now finding it was not at all what I thought makes me generally really sad. In glad to see others in the comments who along with me aren't angry at person who gave them up as it was either them or his family. I don't know what I would have done in that situation and I'm lucky I don't have to find out.
@formodius
@formodius 2 года назад
Complete strangers who I don’t know or my family Wow that is a tough one for sure
@andrewcruz3837
@andrewcruz3837 2 года назад
🤣
@amsterdamG2G
@amsterdamG2G 2 года назад
It's still not certain that this is really what happened. But very very sad either way
@martinsaunders7925
@martinsaunders7925 2 года назад
.......yet......
@jimbojohnson7360
@jimbojohnson7360 2 года назад
The real evil was the racism and populism of the Nazis, thier rise and history, built on systemic racist propaganda and bullying opposition should be taught forever.
@lonewolf7761
@lonewolf7761 2 года назад
It's sad to think about how if her family were never betrayed that she may have still been alive to this very day. She wanted to be a star well at least she got her wish now...
@_mortiam
@_mortiam 2 года назад
@Black Toof I don't think so. She would be a contemporary witness and would most definitely have published a book (if not multiple) herself.
@IAMMRON
@IAMMRON 2 года назад
😆
@ticketyboo2456
@ticketyboo2456 2 года назад
Lonewolf 3817 Are you trolling or completely tone deaf?
@kemo2547
@kemo2547 2 года назад
She died of typhus
@ajorngjdonaydbr
@ajorngjdonaydbr 2 года назад
@@kemo2547 which spread through the concentration camp she was being held in against her will
@cee5899
@cee5899 2 года назад
What a shitty situation to be put in. Everyone can judge this person and give their two cents about his actions but we'll never truly experience what he went through. To choose between your family and the life of someone else. To call him a traitor and say he betrayed is a gross oversimplification of what happened. He was a guy who had no choice but was forced to make one regardless and live with the guilt of it. I suspect almost everyone here, myself included, would have done exactly as he did when the lives of your loved ones are on the line. Blame the people who put him in the situation, not the man himself.
@yee1704
@yee1704 2 года назад
Ikr our society needs to believe in the atonement
@holorenSHORTS
@holorenSHORTS 2 года назад
You know you can judge things without experiencing them right
@cee5899
@cee5899 2 года назад
@@holorenSHORTS Sure you can (when did I ever say you can't?). It's still a shit thing to do though. Especially in situations like this. My comment was directed at the people who made it sound so easy saying that the individual is a terrible human being for outing someone even with the context. When it comes down to it, how many of us who mostly live in peaceful times, will be willing to have our own family killed just to save the life of a stranger? You can convince yourself by saying, 'I'd never do that' but that conviction is made from your current perspective and said from the safety of your current position. It's a whole other thing in the moment with all the variables and uncertainty at play. It's very very easy to judge without experiencing something yourself. No one said you can't but oftentimes in circumstances like this, judgement without experience has no value.
@jamesa2482
@jamesa2482 2 года назад
Yeh fuck the BBC and the pedos that work for them.
@anthonycarlisle6184
@anthonycarlisle6184 2 года назад
Woolwoven Yeah, there's a word for that. It's called ASSuming.
@annb3376
@annb3376 Год назад
We always get mad at those who betray but we never wonder if we ourselves are capable of such a thing. Do we know how strong we are until we are placed in such a situation?
@dolly21
@dolly21 2 года назад
Poor girl and her family. Hiding for so long living in fear as many Jews did. Hes not here to defend himself, but as said, in order to save his own family he was put in a position to give up another family. We don't know the circumstances. The enemy here were the nazi's. One of the most disgusting evil things to happen to humanity from the hands of others. She always wanted to be a famous author and she got that but unfortunately never got to see her dream come true. Special girl x
@linanafie8571
@linanafie8571 2 года назад
Yes but she got something even better that millions of people will never get, the incredible gift of not only being a number, but always being remembered! :) even when children learn about WWII in 50 years, they will still learn about her and her story. I think it's really beautiful that her father published her diary because this way her story, their story will never ever die :)
@mjk6949
@mjk6949 2 года назад
Now theyre doing the same with the palestinians
@Noone-rt1mv
@Noone-rt1mv 2 года назад
Wait I’m so confused. Who is he?
@Channel-ml4qv
@Channel-ml4qv 2 года назад
@@mjk6949 In what fantasy land is that happening? Since Israel claimed independence in 1948, the Arab “Palestinian” population has tripled. That’s literally the opposite of Genocide.
@edge.edge.edge.tentacion
@edge.edge.edge.tentacion 2 года назад
@@Channel-ml4qv no such thing as Israel. Keep trying to spread your propaganda Zionist, it helps us by making people see your lies
@gillianbrown8502
@gillianbrown8502 2 года назад
It is a disgrace that this man is being named as guilty with only circumstantial evidence. And as he is long dead, he cannot defend himself and his family’s name is blackened.
@theloniuspunk383
@theloniuspunk383 2 года назад
reminds me of another certain mid-20th century leader..
@Tonshmar
@Tonshmar Год назад
He was named a suspect.
@TheJhtlag
@TheJhtlag Год назад
Yeah, I get the idea they they did research and this is the "most likely" suspect but as they suggested with no DNA evidence and "circumstantial evidence" they have no court of law proof. The tone of this video suggests otherwise.
@thatoneguy9666
@thatoneguy9666 11 месяцев назад
@@Tonshmara suspect for what? He never committed a crime
@dakevinmg
@dakevinmg 10 месяцев назад
@@theloniuspunk383Which one? You can say it.
@ESUNintel
@ESUNintel 2 года назад
I remember reading Anne Frank’s diary in 6th grade, and being disturbed for several years on what kind of person could have had the heart to turn her and her family in. As time went on and as I learned more about history, wars, and psychology, it became more obvious that it’s in our human nature to do the unthinkable if it means ensuring the survival of our loved ones, or even to protect ourselves. Unfortunately, it’s also human nature to be greedy and desire power, financial well-being, etc - and hoped that wasn’t the reason why the Frank family was turned in. Anyways; clicked on this thinking it was finally known who the person was - but guess it’s still possibly a mystery since evidence seems to be based on just an anonymous letter. If it was van den Bergh, then guess I’m glad it didn’t turn out to be the heartless and greedy villain type; as it seems he was forced to do it to protect his own loved ones.
@adrianpaulo7302
@adrianpaulo7302 2 года назад
Imagine betraying other people to save your family. That only happens in that era. We never had such huge decision in our generation, and for that, we must be thankful. 🥺
@BruhMasTree
@BruhMasTree 2 года назад
@@adrianpaulo7302 wait im new to this story sry about that um
@alaljarensi6990
@alaljarensi6990 2 года назад
@@adrianpaulo7302 A friend of mine who was blackmailed by the FBI and police had to make a similar dreadful decision. There is still totalitarian control even today disguised behind fake patriotic jingoism and media distraction.
@phabiorules
@phabiorules 2 года назад
@@alaljarensi6990 what was your friend doing?
@oliviacaron7088
@oliviacaron7088 2 года назад
@@phabiorules this is a good question
@Elliecham
@Elliecham 11 месяцев назад
From all 8 people that hid in the annex, only Otto Frank survived. Anne was only weeks away from freedom. This story always breaks my heart. RIP.
@shopaholiconabudget
@shopaholiconabudget 2 года назад
“No man should judge unless he asks himself in absolute honesty whether in a similar situation he might not have done the same.” -Viktor Frankl, 'Man's Search for Meaning'.
@holdendao2679
@holdendao2679 2 года назад
i read that! very true
@HonestFarmerLigue1Fan
@HonestFarmerLigue1Fan 2 года назад
I would rather die knowing I did the right thing than live knowing I indirectly killed someone to save my arse, thank you. But what about my family members? If they are good people they would understand why I did that. Thank you.
@284animal
@284animal 2 года назад
@@HonestFarmerLigue1Fan haha okay sitting behind your computer. As a parent and if you're a parent you don't believe that. I would give everything to see my kids smile and make sure they're safe.
@1Thedairy
@1Thedairy 2 года назад
I still can’t comprehend the despicable cruelty of the Nazi. To say they were like animals is an insult to animals.
@christee9590
@christee9590 2 года назад
Oh dear, another brainwashed person who doesn't know when he's been fooled
@vyy00bet
@vyy00bet 2 года назад
Oh god. Is this Chris Guy for real. What a dark we live in.
@sahirabegum6303
@sahirabegum6303 2 года назад
This is still happening in Chinese concentration camps, in Rohingya and Palestine.
@donaldduck7461
@donaldduck7461 2 года назад
Holodomor?
@V-2512
@V-2512 2 года назад
@@christee9590 You talking about yourself?
@ellebelle6439
@ellebelle6439 2 года назад
Suspect?? How awful to say this. He was also a victim, he was protecting his family and himself. It's so beyond tragic she had to go through that and die so young as well as her family beyond tragic but to say he betrayed her is just cruel and disrespectful
@7sukuyomi
@7sukuyomi 2 года назад
Suspect is the right word to use. A suspect is someone suspected or deserving of suspicion (suspected of betrayal in this case.) But I do agree he was definitely a victim too.
@benstevensMTB
@benstevensMTB 2 года назад
@@7sukuyomi yes but most people will see that word and misinterpret the situation.
@7sukuyomi
@7sukuyomi 2 года назад
true
@exgardevior
@exgardevior 2 года назад
Don't understand the fuss... Just some kid who died years ago
@tdestroyer4780
@tdestroyer4780 2 года назад
@@7sukuyomi As long as their descendants vote for the right political party then all betrayal will be forgiven.
@yulb.allwright
@yulb.allwright 3 месяца назад
Remember: this is suspicion (and slander), not evidence. We will never know.
@redzO9
@redzO9 2 года назад
“They relied only on circumstantial evidence and a note” That’s speculation not proof.
@karlmuud
@karlmuud 2 года назад
With the BBC anything goes these days. Can't wait til 2027!
@CuttinBlade
@CuttinBlade 2 года назад
What you said is also speculation
@VeeSeven700
@VeeSeven700 2 года назад
To be fair they're not being identified as a definite culprit. Identified as a suspect only.
@graveperil2169
@graveperil2169 2 года назад
@@karlmuud the days have gone of the BBC being the last people to report a story but making sure what they reported was true now they are after the clickbait headline desperate to be first with facts taking second place
@clacicle
@clacicle 2 года назад
@@graveperil2169 they wrote, “suspect identified” in the title.
@app103
@app103 2 года назад
Words like "betray" automatically paints the picture of the person as being evil, when the truly evil ones are the murderers that made that family run and hide in an attic, in the first place.
@brycegreene3022
@brycegreene3022 8 месяцев назад
They had it coming, no one has that much patience especially humans. Really unfortunate how it played out, but maybe think about the worker or veterans and things like this wouldn’t happen. If the inflation and rent keeps rising history will repeat itself
@brycegreene3022
@brycegreene3022 8 месяцев назад
The small hat people were in charge at first and abused it then got it taken away by force. Letting millions starve while the unemployment rate was around 7 million all because they got blamed for the First World War. I wouldn’t watch that in my country and I sure as hell wouldn’t watch someone move in my country and take advantage of my people during this time
@baitreview
@baitreview 2 года назад
99.999% of us would never even dare to sacrifice our own family for another. He wasn't a betrayer. He was yet another victim of one of humanities worst events
@Junomaster2006
@Junomaster2006 2 года назад
Um, 100% of blm would easily sell out thier own kind just to save Just themselves.
@lucklabbers2113
@lucklabbers2113 2 года назад
@@Junomaster2006 100% of your people would follow people blindly without fact-checking
@jazzoboe44
@jazzoboe44 2 года назад
@@Junomaster2006 In this comment section where we're talking about the memory of a poor young girl who went through atrocities experience by 6 million others, can you NOT stew hate for just a few moments? Is that too much to ask??
@alexmunch9275
@alexmunch9275 2 года назад
@@lucklabbers2113 What about the blm rioters that chose to take their children to these events? They knew their children would/could get hurt there.
@quitthischannellol4368
@quitthischannellol4368 2 года назад
Im wondering why some people in this comment section are expecting others to sacrafice their family for another, im pretty sure they wouldnt sacrafice their family too.
@DeidresStuff
@DeidresStuff 10 месяцев назад
People want to believe that they would do "the right thing" but if I had to choose between my child and anyone else on Earth, it would always be my child.
@MrGreekstatue
@MrGreekstatue 2 года назад
Millions of Jews were betrayed by their friends and neighbours before and during the war. Dragged from their homes, beaten, and murdered. Dark. Evil times.
@guvviyulg4821
@guvviyulg4821 2 года назад
They did it because they were driven to it by their opressors, can you even imagine the torture of letting a family go to their death in order to save your own?
@khem931
@khem931 2 года назад
Never again...
@guvviyulg4821
@guvviyulg4821 2 года назад
@@khem931 Agreed.
@voicezful
@voicezful 2 года назад
In 17th century Scotland, especially the 1680s thousands of Scots were persecuted, imprisoned, tortured and murdered for their religious beliefs, by opposing Scots, inlcuding members of their own families. Scotland's unreported shame.
@jjyoutube82
@jjyoutube82 2 года назад
@@guvviyulg4821 better than being oppressed by them.
@GhostMan407
@GhostMan407 2 года назад
hate on him all you like, if the story is true, i personally can’t help but highly respect him. He did it to save his family, that choice had to be hard, impossible for anyone to imagine right now. But i think everyone would make that same choice he did
@nInOwarrior0312
@nInOwarrior0312 2 года назад
Fear, the enemy of trust. Shame 😥
@alexjones2677
@alexjones2677 2 года назад
I definitely would have let my family die to make sure Anne and her family were kept safe. My family sucks and Anne's family rocks.
@CPTM1
@CPTM1 2 года назад
@@alexjones2677 but you wasn't there with your family at that time, you wouldn't know what you would do, it is all well saying it now, but in that moment you have no idea what you would actually do.
@mayadam3768
@mayadam3768 2 года назад
@@alexjones2677 😂
@Mhats
@Mhats 2 года назад
Anakin slaughtered youngling and destroyed the Jedi Order to save his family too.
@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694
@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694 2 года назад
The report doesn’t say how betraying Anne’s Jewish family saved his Jewish family. Who all of the sudden decided after 77 years to investigate this?
@hskajdhf5907
@hskajdhf5907 2 года назад
Its such bullshit probably some political agenda behind it can't trust main stream media, they are all about polluting brains with narrative for their own benifit or the highest bidder.
@manticore4952
@manticore4952 2 года назад
He became a Nazi informant, his family was one of the only ones in the town why were left alone, that's how the AI determined who it was.
@j.carter6449
@j.carter6449 2 года назад
@Ego Master 💀
@jenniferhiemstra5228
@jenniferhiemstra5228 2 года назад
It’s not sudden, this has been ongoing since the end of the war. Investigating who did this never really stopped.
@PartnershipsForYou
@PartnershipsForYou 2 года назад
@Ego Master imagine being an incel like you
@normadesmond6017
@normadesmond6017 7 месяцев назад
She died in Bergen Belsen. She died from typhus. And she was betrayed for 7,50 guilders. That's about 3 euro's. And the people who lived in what is now called the Anne Frank house were on the last transport that went out of the Netherlands. They got so close it is heartbreaking.
@f17coolplane
@f17coolplane 2 года назад
This is wrong. There is an anonymous note and a suspect. That is not a conclusion. Dutch historians agree yet the BBC ran this piece anyway.
@nickwilliams6621
@nickwilliams6621 2 года назад
It was all made via phone according to Karl Silberbauer. Oh, and if you're wondering who he is... you can now put a name and a face to the man who emptied Anne's diary all over the floor [ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Silberbauer ].
@RenneDanjoule
@RenneDanjoule 2 года назад
Mustache man was financed by 2 zionist bankers. And the 2 architects of the holodeck were you know whos. Churchill asked the loyal National you know whos to rise up and prove that Bolshevism wasnt a you know who phenomenon. Unfortunately for all of us, the previous 2 generations have failed to stay the course, and we are now descending into Bolshevism.
@aff77141
@aff77141 2 года назад
Historians: We found a note that hints at being the one to give away the Frank family! Bbc: who cares? Historians: It looks like they might have been Jewish - - Bbc: *ON IT, GIVE*
@ginafromcologne9281
@ginafromcologne9281 2 года назад
Imagine having to choose between the lives of your loved ones and the lives of someone else's loved ones. That's horrible. :(
@wastedproductions45
@wastedproductions45 2 года назад
No for him apparently to him it was a pretty easy decision.
@shirlepps4636
@shirlepps4636 2 года назад
Honey you ain't never lie. Hope to God we will never find out.
@ssgemactv
@ssgemactv 2 года назад
@I Think My Son's a Canadian Oh look it's the guy who would sacrifice his own family to the nazis to protect random strangers
@ssgemactv
@ssgemactv 2 года назад
@I Think My Son's a Canadian So if the nazis told you that you would be sacrificing your own people to protect some stranger you would go through with that? Good to know
@hattmancock6396
@hattmancock6396 2 года назад
@@ssgemactv it’s ridiculous isn’t it, people just need something in their lives to be outraged about
@donnywai882
@donnywai882 2 года назад
This story isn't black, and white. The guy had to save his family.
@theloniuspunk383
@theloniuspunk383 2 года назад
the story is entirely fabricated to begin with, it's part of the trauma based mind control device. You defend at all costs the very evil which you decry, We call it "the 'ole switcharoo" for the technically minded of us
@donnywai882
@donnywai882 2 года назад
@@theloniuspunk383 So you would let your family get killed for a stranger you don't know? Stop trying to act so high and mighty knight wannabe.
@yee1704
@yee1704 2 года назад
@@theloniuspunk383 this was copied and pasted...
@willzjc
@willzjc 2 года назад
Statistically speaking, most people, including the news readers and the people who called this person a 'betrayer' would have done EXACTLY the same thing. This isn't simply just a morality issue - this is doing what you have to do to either survive or save your loved ones. From looking at history, most people would sell out others with much less on the line.
@jrmetmoi
@jrmetmoi 10 месяцев назад
Still makes them a betrayer
@cagneybillingsley2165
@cagneybillingsley2165 10 месяцев назад
speak for yourself, weakling
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et 10 месяцев назад
My father told me after the war when he was off duty he went a local pub to get a drank some of the German men still in uniform went up to him and had a drink as well they said that they did not want to fight in the war, the Nazi held a gun to their parents head and to his sisters head told him if he did not fight they would shoot them,, so he had to fight, One guy said that his aunt and cousins was killed because his cousin refuse to fight, then they made him
@lunarialoonatic
@lunarialoonatic 10 месяцев назад
Personally I’d kill myself with that information bc I wouldn’t live with myself either way but I understand why he did. Don’t assume everybody would make the same choice. Like you said we don’t know who would be capable of what
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et 10 месяцев назад
@@lunarialoonatic when it got to that point I would have a conversation with my family with what to do, if they all agree with being killed, I would had went to fight, but then there were kids in the family even babies what would I do for them, I would probably had joined the army I would had or had other family member go after the Nazies family who came to the door, and to him after the war
@thomasgriffing5902
@thomasgriffing5902 2 года назад
This is all supposition. It would be really horrible if it all was in fact wrong.
@electro1463
@electro1463 2 года назад
With internet and the bandwagon it will become Factual like Mother Theresa being a horrible person. 1 person say something and 1 millions parrots repeat
@electro1463
@electro1463 2 года назад
@@TheCoolCucumber antitheist Christopher Hitchens is the one who started that, what you call plenty investigative journalism is just blogger "journalists" who repeat word for word what he said. He didn't even go to one of her missionary before his attack on her. The "academics" Serge Larivée, Geneviève Chénard and Carole Sénéchal published a paper in 2013, so 16 years after her death, and it is mostly a copy pasta of Christopher Hitchens book....
@Juandan59
@Juandan59 2 года назад
D
@vishnuts8385
@vishnuts8385 2 года назад
@@electro1463 There are lot of journalists who have went to the missionaries...there is even an interview with the current head of the missionaries addressing all this....
@peripheralperception2267
@peripheralperception2267 2 года назад
@@Juandan59 so what you are saying here, is that the people who denounced her and those who killed her (and her family) did the right thing then, according to the law as you put it? I suppose you don't see anything wrong with slavery either, so long as it's lawful? After all, genocide seems perfectly acceptable by your standards.
@Elmer-hf1je
@Elmer-hf1je 2 года назад
In other words we still don’t know who betrayed her ! “ We suspect “ , is not admissible in a court of law! Unless there is fact ,he should never have been named !
@queenbunnyfoofoo6112
@queenbunnyfoofoo6112 2 года назад
Agreed. His descendants now will have this cloud around them....without any actual proof he was guilty.
@bighands69
@bighands69 2 года назад
@@queenbunnyfoofoo6112 After this long would you trust anything that the media says?
@bighands69
@bighands69 2 года назад
@Anglo Because it was the biggest atrocity in Europe that is why.
@queenbunnyfoofoo6112
@queenbunnyfoofoo6112 2 года назад
@@bighands69 I haven't trusted them for years...this "report" just reinforces that. Notice the lack of critical thinking skills in the comment section. They admit it's based on an anonymous source, so there's no proof....but people are ready to condemn this guy (who can't defend himself because he's dead).
@Really250
@Really250 2 года назад
@@bighands69 sort of i mean Stalin starved 6 million Ukrainians to death.
@deborahkamerick5290
@deborahkamerick5290 Год назад
The fact that she is remembered is wonderful!
@ryanwindsor2407
@ryanwindsor2407 2 года назад
You have to put yourself in the position of these poor people, surrounded by bigot's and murderers, and living in fear every second of the day before you can judge anybody.
@lw1zfog
@lw1zfog 2 года назад
is that you typing George S ?
@YTPEXPERT
@YTPEXPERT 2 года назад
One word. Palestine
@hannahdyson7129
@hannahdyson7129 2 года назад
At the same time how do we know its him ? We don't. And for all we know he may have given the Frank's away willingly because he didn't like her father I hope its not the case
@dylanjohnson4624
@dylanjohnson4624 2 года назад
@@YTPEXPERT what does that have to do with anything? This video is about a Anne Frank. You think she was responsible for Palestine?
@muhammadiqbalahmad2985
@muhammadiqbalahmad2985 2 года назад
@@dylanjohnson4624 "You have to put yourself in the position of these poor people, surrounded by bigot's and murderers, and living in fear every second of the day before you can judge anybody" @YTPEXPERT is talking about this comment.
@kdotrod
@kdotrod 2 года назад
“What humanity may be capable of” ? How callous and cruel. The subjection of this man, his family, like millions of families, do not deserve to be demonized in their attempts for safety. We are incredibly fortunate to have primary accounts such as Anne Frank’s, but to perceive a man who saved his family as a traitor is wrong. These humans were all victims. What a complete lack of empathy or historical imagination to label this poor soul a traitor. Shame on you, this is not “investigative reporting”, this is inflammatory clickbait journalism to misrepresent the horrors of this moment in history. There is an actual traitor in this story, and it is the countless of people in power then who waited many years to intervene, and those in power who continue to enable the rise of Nazism in our modern day. It is an ultimate shame that, these are the traitors to these victims.
@King-zx4qr
@King-zx4qr 2 года назад
Facts. Though we might have gained empathy and feeling for Anne after reading her diary, we have to consider the fact that he gave up Anne's family to save his own. What? Do we expect him to let his family die just so that others don't? He would have been a horrible father and husband then. Morally, he can't win in this situation.
@TheNyster
@TheNyster 2 года назад
Well said
@ellebelle6439
@ellebelle6439 2 года назад
EXACTLY
@manictiger
@manictiger 2 года назад
And none of them had a gun. 2nd Amendment prevents genocide.
@boserboser6870
@boserboser6870 2 года назад
@@manictiger what the hell are you talking about. think about that for one more second. tnis has less than nothing to do with guns. there were militia forces that stood up for themselves. most of them died. but anyone of them having a gun changes nothing here that would have been a great way to get all of them killed.
@Savage_-cm1ex
@Savage_-cm1ex 2 года назад
Let’s be real here. Nobody in the comments are going to sell out their family just to save someone else. It’s human nature
@saedm2359
@saedm2359 2 года назад
Was thinking the same it's a no brainer
@anarcho-communist11
@anarcho-communist11 2 года назад
It is human nature, and I think it would be wrong to save someone else's instead of your own
@flmbyz
@flmbyz 10 месяцев назад
What happened during this time is something that should truly never be forgotten. How easy it is to blind people in hatred, how that hatred turns people into monsters, and how those monsters damage the world in ways that are still being felt about eighty or more years later. Do not be so easily swayed by hate. Do not follow those who try to unite in hate.
@brunom72
@brunom72 2 года назад
a betrayer? he's being called a betrayer because he refused to sacrifice his family & did what any loving, responsible husband & father would do. we really are living in Bizarro world
@SleezyMoves
@SleezyMoves 2 года назад
There are still atrocities like this going on all around the world.
@MOHAMMEDIRFAN-fb5vz
@MOHAMMEDIRFAN-fb5vz 2 года назад
In the world but what about PALISTINE
@RandomCenturion
@RandomCenturion 2 года назад
@@MOHAMMEDIRFAN-fb5vz Pretty sure Palestine is on earth.
@SleezyMoves
@SleezyMoves 2 года назад
@@RandomCenturion some people are low on brain cells 🙄
@Vanilla_Baker44
@Vanilla_Baker44 2 года назад
This is trur
@bixnood7273
@bixnood7273 2 года назад
@@RandomCenturion Only the desert fox can free Palestine!
@pauljansen1137
@pauljansen1137 2 года назад
Correction...this suspect has been a suspect before actually!
@gonnabeok
@gonnabeok 2 года назад
bbc won't tell you correct facts. It's not their mission.
@georgielancaster1356
@georgielancaster1356 2 года назад
AND not the only one with a good case for accusal. Sadly, whomever IS innocent is forever caught up in this really awful act and a world bloodthirsty to have a scapegoat. We all want to know the truth, but it appears there will never be clear evidence, and so a number of families must live with worldwide suspicion. A major tragedy with ripples of further tragedy.
@l337pwnage
@l337pwnage 2 года назад
slow news day, what can you do?
@arushigupta3259
@arushigupta3259 7 месяцев назад
"PAPER HAS MORE PATIENCE THAN PEOPLE" ~Anne Frank
@ggbrothers8704
@ggbrothers8704 2 года назад
It really hurts me when I know Anne was sacrificed by someone. A part of her life incidents was given in my NCERT book for class 10 by CBSE. I remember reading how she loved her grandmother and how she felt alone even if she had everything she needs but not a true friend. I am recollecting those words of Anne through this when she said "paper has more patience than people" in her diary.
@itssupriyahere
@itssupriyahere 2 года назад
I remember reading it when I was in school💔
@rakshitasingh6574
@rakshitasingh6574 2 года назад
It was a NOVEL alongside Hellen Keller's "Story of my life" nd it contained 10 marks in English subject When i was in 10th !!
@meenarajawat
@meenarajawat 2 года назад
Yes a part of her diary was in 10th ncert book...I passed 10th in 2015...but honestly I don't remember anything about it now
@ebul176
@ebul176 2 года назад
Yep even I remember reading it during my 10th boards. I still remember exams were just around the corner and here I was reading the book fully immersed in it, completely forgotten to study other subjects 😂 it was in 2016
@nihalsp2348
@nihalsp2348 2 года назад
I am sure you would have rather seen your own family killed than sell out Anne?
@milkystuff4045
@milkystuff4045 2 года назад
There's a real lack of evidence concerning this whole thing.
@dylanjohnson4624
@dylanjohnson4624 2 года назад
There is plenty online. And What do you think her Diary is? EVIDENCE.
@mrexpress8002
@mrexpress8002 2 года назад
@Mr Right the zionist israeli government are killing everyday
@troywright359
@troywright359 2 года назад
@Mr Right no one is arrested simply for not believing
@sanjurohanamizuki6181
@sanjurohanamizuki6181 2 года назад
what people were capable of ? People are absolutely still capable of inflicting utter horrors on others , and they do so every day
@biglummox9862
@biglummox9862 2 года назад
Just look at what governments worldwide have done for the last two years.
@ronmartin1375
@ronmartin1375 2 года назад
Basically he doxxed her. Typical alt-left SJW trash. 🎵🎵Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord🇺🇸🇺🇸🗽🗽 One free man defending his home is worth more than ten hired antifa. First thing taliban/antifa (anti-freedom) does is force women to wear masks, force people to stay inside, ban guns, burn US flags, chant death to America. Alt-left were the ones building the camps and lighting the gas. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Castro. Lots of sad idols in leftist history. Now the taliban. Ideology is not an alt-left strong point.
@disappearintothesea
@disappearintothesea Год назад
Anne inspired me to keep a diary up until high school. My diaries are lost to time but Anne's will never be forgotten.
@sultankebab1587
@sultankebab1587 2 года назад
There is not a single person who would have choose a random person instead of their family, this wasnt a betrayal.
@sarahs8371
@sarahs8371 2 года назад
Just because most people would do it doesn't mean its moral to betray someone's family that is hidden. Rather, its immoral.
@divita000
@divita000 2 года назад
@@sarahs8371 would you do this immoral act for your family? I think everyone in this situation will... It's basic human tendency even if you definitely don't want to
@sarahs8371
@sarahs8371 2 года назад
@@divita000 Am I the moral peak of humanity you should be learning from? Of course not, that’s besides the point. Some people would however would rather die (and their family that was already uncovered) than to be a traitor that aids in the death of another family. Let’s say I do something morally wrong (ie. bad), does that mean I cannot say that it is morally wrong for anyone else to do? No it doesn’t. I would understand the bad thing I had done is morally wrong. Just because most people do a certain thing doesn’t mean it’s moral. Everyone lies, steals, and has jealousy, does that mean every one of these traits is moral and a good thing? Obviously not. Just saying that “I was following orders” or “everyone else did it” does not make the immoral action, moral.
@Hugh.G.Rectionx
@Hugh.G.Rectionx 2 года назад
@@sarahs8371 so you would have your own family killed knowing you couldve prevented it?.....and you claim that is the moral decision?
@thunderclaws3341
@thunderclaws3341 2 года назад
All you guys calling him a traitor even though he was also saving his wife and his children too. You would let your wife and children die to save another family that you don't know?
@schoolingdiana9086
@schoolingdiana9086 2 года назад
He did know the Franks, and of course the Nazis planned to kill him and his family, too, anyway.
@timhendson2550
@timhendson2550 2 года назад
@@schoolingdiana9086 thank you
@timhendson2550
@timhendson2550 2 года назад
He did this to 100s though
@djharto4917
@djharto4917 2 года назад
Why didn’t the "Nazis" murder the franks so? Thé moved them 3 times in 18 months. The franks also begged to leave Auschwitz with the Germans to escape the pursuing Soviets. Anne Frank died from a medical condition because of the allied blockade of Europe. No food or medicine could get to continental Europe. Her diaries are proven to be fraudulent too. Her father just found them! Really?
@loverrlee
@loverrlee 2 года назад
“I keep trying to find a way to become what I’d like to be and what I could be if… if only there were no other people in the world.” This quote hurts. It’s so true. “Hell is other people.”
@julesoxana
@julesoxana Год назад
I cant even imagine what they went through💔 no one would ever wanna choose between saving your family or another, Rest in Peace to the Frank family and victims of the war💔🙏
@eternalhatred666
@eternalhatred666 9 месяцев назад
Boo hoo. Black lives matter more
@nadapenny8592
@nadapenny8592 2 года назад
First of all, entirely circumstantial. Second of all, I hope it's widely understood that he was also a victim. Very, very many people were forced to make these terrible decisions, it shouldn't make a difference that a child of the family he was forced to give away had her journal published. The only people that reserve the right to call him guilty or even culpable are the people who lived in similar circumstances, and I guarantee that most of them would hold him harmless with the understanding that he was only trying desperately to protect his own family.
@patchmoulton5438
@patchmoulton5438 2 года назад
@@helena_5456 Execpt that it is known that his families lives were were on the line. So to use your own words: "You're just guessing that's all."
@kevinsafar
@kevinsafar 2 года назад
@@helena_5456 Your guessing too 😑
@keyboardwarrior7538
@keyboardwarrior7538 2 года назад
@@helena_5456 in that case you're guessing he's guilty and you're guessing whatever the medias view is true. You haven't checked the evidence (yes I'm guessing ik) whilst I'm guessing you'd probably do the same. How many times am I saying guessing who knows. You'll just be guessing
@melodyseverything6999
@melodyseverything6999 2 года назад
@@keyboardwarrior7538 - Your finest work, Keyboard Warrior! 😊
@bonnie3447
@bonnie3447 2 года назад
"thought" to have betrayed. I hope they are right and haven't just buried someone's memory for no reason.
2 года назад
Not like there was too much memory of him anyway
@valeria-militiamessalina5672
@valeria-militiamessalina5672 2 года назад
@ some prefer anonymity
@sohamray2266
@sohamray2266 2 года назад
How is he a traitor? He did everything to save himself & more importantly his family. He was himself a victim of the circumstances. I don't think that qualifies anyone to be a traitor. Anyone should be called a traitor if He / She willingly betrays someone who trusted them without any meaningful reason or for their own personal gain.
@paulinelarson465
@paulinelarson465 Год назад
Very good friends of my family were named Vandenburg ! The couple's families had immigrated before the war, when they were teenagers. He always regretted that he had not been in the Netherlands, to fight for his country. No matter how futile his fighting might have been, he still regretted not having the opportunity.
@khadijahmachdar2855
@khadijahmachdar2855 2 года назад
it is so sad to call someone a traitor, we will never EVER know the pain of war and how we manage to survive after that occurs
@_Eric._
@_Eric._ 2 года назад
Exactly, this report was so inconsiderate and full of ignorance...
@melodyseverything6999
@melodyseverything6999 2 года назад
Everyone seems to keep saying "we will never EVER know the pain of war" but with world events going, I think we actually WILL face a World War III in our lifetimes. Only this time, it will be far worse because the advancements in nuclear weapons. If you thought the two that destroyed those two cities in Japan were bad, the ones nowadays are far worse.
@pesticeed8168
@pesticeed8168 2 года назад
@@melodyseverything6999 Idk why people think nukes are on the table, the USA and the Soviets lasted over 40 years without blowing each other up.
@sonsen25
@sonsen25 2 года назад
Have you thrown anybody off a building today?
@evelyndacre420
@evelyndacre420 2 года назад
I want to pray for all the victims who had to live in that era.
@RenneDanjoule
@RenneDanjoule 2 года назад
Mustache man was financed by 2 zionist bankers. And the 2 architects of the holodeck were you know whos. Churchill asked the loyal National you know whos to rise up and prove that Bolshevism wasnt a you know who phenomenon. Unfortunately for all of us, the previous 2 generations have failed to stay the course, and we are now descending into Bolshevism.
@rithvikmuthyalapati9754
@rithvikmuthyalapati9754 2 года назад
@@RenneDanjoule What does Bolshevism have anything to do with the Holocaust?
@RenneDanjoule
@RenneDanjoule 2 года назад
@@rithvikmuthyalapati9754 "The holocaust was punishment for secular Jews that abandoned the Torrah"-Rabbi Schach What are Bolsehvists? The culmination of the anti-national anti-militarist tradition amongst female revolutionaries such as Rosa Luxemberg. They challenge the collectivism of Nationalists with one of atoms under the banner of equality...which is why Fourier coined feminism in 1837...to weaponize female visionary internationalism...the same reason Queen Victoria detested it...if one knows history...one knows it's repetition is oncoming...and looking at the general west today...she was right.
@drillnewsandclips3798
@drillnewsandclips3798 2 года назад
I honestly couldn't care less who betrayed Anne Frank. This was almost 80 years ago, and what's done is done. Poor girl didn't deserve to die, but neither did the millions of other people that did, and I'm sure that the person who snitched wouldn't have done unless they were in danger too
@user-rv7ge1tc4l
@user-rv7ge1tc4l 2 года назад
@Paul C and yet for some reason anti semitism is still on the rise, look at Texas and what happened a few weeks ago. Also, the reason you hear about it more is that it happened in Europe, in a western country.
@azrabahadur5848
@azrabahadur5848 2 года назад
Exactly. People’s main focus is Anne, but we still have millions of Jews and others that died in the war. Sure, she was special- but let’s not forget that there were others.
@theloniuspunk383
@theloniuspunk383 2 года назад
@@user-rv7ge1tc4l thats because semetists are the ones who do and did all the horrors other groups were accused of, thats why its neverending you cannot resolve a lie
@notrealatall196
@notrealatall196 7 месяцев назад
We are so obsessed with solving mysteries from history and have no concern about the atrocities happening in todays world
@RapperLilDownSyndrime
@RapperLilDownSyndrime 7 месяцев назад
We will be sympathize in the future
@mcpartridgeboy
@mcpartridgeboy 4 месяца назад
what atrocities do we not care about today ?
@didjaseemyjams1582
@didjaseemyjams1582 2 года назад
I am speechless. Nobody should have to make the choice between your family or another family's life. I think Anne Frank would forgive him for sure.
@meetmeinthegame403
@meetmeinthegame403 2 года назад
I think she would too
@theloniuspunk383
@theloniuspunk383 2 года назад
its a fake story anyway
@anarcho-communist11
@anarcho-communist11 2 года назад
There's just no telling what the details were or what was going on in his head at the time so we can't really judge.
@meetmeinthegame403
@meetmeinthegame403 2 года назад
@@anarcho-communist11 exactly man… people have lost the ability to rationalize situations
@theloniuspunk383
@theloniuspunk383 2 года назад
@@anarcho-communist11 same with the holocaust
@shailim7849
@shailim7849 2 года назад
Calling him a traitor and a betrayer is so wrong. It makes complete sense that someone is willing to sacrifice another family to save their own especially during that horrendous time. Its ignorant to call him a bad person.
@McDinglefart_69
@McDinglefart_69 2 года назад
2022 liberals, or far left.
@turtletail313
@turtletail313 2 года назад
He's still a betrayer and a traitor. Sometimes people do bad things to save themselves and the ones they love, but that doesn't mean they didn't do a bad thing. He had a reason for betraying Anne Franks family, but he's still a betrayer.
@artisticgiftfromabove
@artisticgiftfromabove 2 года назад
@@turtletail313 exactly, it’s a horrible situation we will never know what he went through but to save himself he sacrificed another. If he lived after that I can’t even imagine how he felt
@thomasparkinson9404
@thomasparkinson9404 2 года назад
Just because you had a reason to do it doesn't mean you didn't do it
@artisticgiftfromabove
@artisticgiftfromabove 2 года назад
@@thomasparkinson9404 no one knows if he did it it’s more of a theory/speculation. They all have passed by now there isn’t a whole lot of survivors left.
@colmwhateveryoulike3240
@colmwhateveryoulike3240 2 года назад
Well I, for one, am in no position to judge him if those were the circumstances. The same people who we all know were responsible still are. May God have mercy on us all.
@ronmartin1375
@ronmartin1375 2 года назад
Sounds like woke SJW. 🎵🎵Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord🇺🇸🇺🇸🗽🗽 One free man defending his home is worth more than ten hired antifa. First thing taliban/antifa (anti-freedom) does is force women to wear masks, force people to stay inside, ban guns, burn US flags, chant death to America. Alt-left were the ones building the camps and lighting the gas. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Castro. Lots of sad idols in leftist history. Now the taliban. Ideology is not an alt-left strong point.
@colmwhateveryoulike3240
@colmwhateveryoulike3240 2 года назад
@FemonicRBLX I hope so.
@colmwhateveryoulike3240
@colmwhateveryoulike3240 2 года назад
@@ronmartin1375 Why are you bringing politics into this? If you really are a Christian you know that none are good but God. Political sides are the devil's way of dividing and conquering. As long as the "left" and "right" are pointing fingers at one another and ignoring their own mistakes, they won't know they need a saviour.
@ronmartin1375
@ronmartin1375 2 года назад
@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 I don’t see this as political. I see this as good vs evil. Freedom > anti freedom. The alt-left is calling for the Americans to be arrested & sent to camps for non compliance with unconstitutional edict. It’s wicked. It’s happening. It’s very real. Look at Australia. Look at China. The Constitution must be defended. Think about it. If she said no to the vax, sjws would gladly turn her in. This isn’t political, this freedom > anti freedom. Good thing Americans had the morality, duty and strength to stop such wickedness. How are the Taliban, Antifa, USSR, NK and CCP not the same ideology? They burn books, cities, ban & persecute religion, enforce redistribution and invasion of other countries. They openly persecute religion sending innocent people off to camps. The military uniforms are similar. They believe in rigorous centralized control. Everyone is forced to think the same with zero room for dissidence on how the country must be run and how the people must live with only state propaganda approved for distribution. The taliban painted over any & all posters of women on buildings. It’s the same thing as deleting a post because it goes against community guidelines. It’s cancel culture.
@colmwhateveryoulike3240
@colmwhateveryoulike3240 2 года назад
@@ronmartin1375 And while you're looking in that direction, the antichrist could literally walk onstage, say the right things, and you'd follow blindly. You might even get to kill some of the people who you hate so much because you think they're as evil as they think you are. Rise above the confusion of this world. Pray to God to lift you above the confusion of the world.
@kgilliagorilla2761
@kgilliagorilla2761 Год назад
Anne wrote in her diary “ The Germans have ways to make people talk” (paraphrasing). So many stories of families forever untold.
@Lancelot0311
@Lancelot0311 2 года назад
I’m surprised to see the comments sticking up for the Gentleman and providing his point of view. Poor Man must have never been able to live with himself. My faith in humanity is restored, and I hope his heart was able to rest easy
@saisatwik8945
@saisatwik8945 2 года назад
Calling him a betrayer? nah man. He did what he thought was right - protecting his family. what would you guys have done if you were in that position? What you guys are doing is wrong.
@wastedproductions45
@wastedproductions45 2 года назад
So are you saying her death was justified given the circumstances? Yikes
@_quit0
@_quit0 2 года назад
@ I Think My Son's a Canadian No, they’re not saying that. They’re saying that we shouldn’t blame the man, as he had no choice. This is what war did to us. It was a simple act that led to horrific cruelties committed and terrifying punishments. I don’t think we should blame him, I would do the same for my family.. it’s a horrible thing and I’m sure he lived with the guilt. R.I.P victims of the war. Fly high 🕊✨💞
@tokkunkim1672
@tokkunkim1672 2 года назад
@@wastedproductions45 Geez, does it feel good when you twist other people's statements like that? Do you feel smart and MoRalLy SuPeRiOr? Get over yourself.
@taiyou2331
@taiyou2331 2 года назад
@@wastedproductions45 Hmmmm, make a choice, your family's life or another person's life?
@mrmxyzptlk8906
@mrmxyzptlk8906 2 года назад
@@wastedproductions45 how dense are you?
@arin7981
@arin7981 2 года назад
How can you call someone a Betrayer just based on a suspicion...this is insanity
@marcotschudin9572
@marcotschudin9572 2 года назад
its the BBC what did you expect?
@dawidedits121
@dawidedits121 2 года назад
@@marcotschudin9572 true
@marcusfranconium3392
@marcusfranconium3392 2 года назад
You must have missed the original article then , an admision of guilt and paper trails . Records and facts dont lie .
@saintpatrick6425
@saintpatrick6425 9 месяцев назад
Title: Suspect Identified after 77 years... Reporter: We will never know the suspect
@joellebrisson
@joellebrisson 2 года назад
Not ok. He didn't betray, he was a victim.
@yee1704
@yee1704 2 года назад
BBC is gross but so are other news networks
@shanamcquaig3119
@shanamcquaig3119 2 года назад
I’m sorry, but I believe that anyone put in this position would absolutely choose to save their own family, so to call him a betrayer is uncalled for.
@billsloan
@billsloan 11 месяцев назад
I wouldn't since that's not what I should do nor is that what my family would want me to do.
@andicantu6490
@andicantu6490 11 месяцев назад
We don’t know for sure it was this poor man. But if it was him, he is called a betrayer for having betrayed an entire family. His reasons don’t change his actions.
@gazalan2234
@gazalan2234 2 года назад
Can you really blame him if he had to give one girl or your own wife and family. The NAZIS KILLED HER , he had no choice.
@LICKSTERxx
@LICKSTERxx 2 года назад
Ann Frank died of typhus she was transported to different German military hospitals where they tried treating her typhus
@Irishjay_94
@Irishjay_94 2 года назад
@@LICKSTERxx that is not true. Anne wasn't "treated" or cared for when suffering from Typhus. The prisoners in the camp were basically left to die by who they called The Beast of Belsen, they had stopped feeding the prisoners when conditions got really bad after the overcrowding. Anne and Margot held on for many months before they perished in late February or early March. She died of disease because she was suffering from malnutrition and couldn't fight it off. The Nazis focused on guarding the camp gates in case of escape attempts. They even had a sign at the entrance saying "Stay away, TYPHUS!" So many corpses were left lying out in the open before they were dumped into mass graves by the Nazis after liberation. So in short, Anne was still killed, only it was systematic murder.
@LICKSTERxx
@LICKSTERxx 2 года назад
@@Irishjay_94 Utter crap next you will tell me her father didn't write most if the diary after the war with a ball point pen in a bid to cash in
2 года назад
@@LICKSTERxx Please, just fuck off and go back to your nazi groups where you rant about how the people are brainwashed by the radical left to thinking the Holocaust was real
@chromicm6686
@chromicm6686 2 года назад
@@Irishjay_94 starvation and disease from a lack of resources in a crumbling nation on the brink of a defeat in war was systematic murder?... Does that mean the indian famine in the 1940s was systematic murder?
@seeleygirl6178
@seeleygirl6178 Год назад
One of the saddest parts, it was right before the end of the war. So tragic.
@impogi2332
@impogi2332 2 года назад
We can't criticize him, if we don't understand the serious situation he was in. During that time, betrayals were something really common. People show their rawest emotions, as they fight over each other for their own lives. Parents to children. Siblings to siblings. Friends to friends. They still love each other, and heartbroken. But as their lives are at stakes, they have no choice but to give up everything they've built together. I feel super sorry for the ones who didn't want such stories to happen, but have to save themselves. Let's not judge anyone and call him a 'traitor' when he's trying to save himself and his family. We have no choice but to betray our closest allies to save our families. It's natural. And how you describe him as a devil who shows his true colors at dark times, it disgusts me.
@woobjn
@woobjn 2 года назад
you knew nothing about that time shut up go worry about ur kpop videos
@pissdrinker1809
@pissdrinker1809 2 года назад
@@woobjn damnnn dont have to be that rude
@elizabethyoung3370
@elizabethyoung3370 2 года назад
@@woobjn stfu, even if you lived through the holocaust and experienced it, what the person is saying is right. Sometimes we have no choice but to betray our closest allies due to the situation we are in, it’s natural so stfu
@lilytinkerbellemorgan64
@lilytinkerbellemorgan64 2 года назад
@@woobjn he was trying to save himself, probably his friends and family also … no need to be rude and ignorant
@abacus7087
@abacus7087 2 года назад
@@lilytinkerbellemorgan64 He didn't save himself tho, Nazi went and killed the Franks then came back for him, he just prolonged the inevitable death of him and his family all he achieved was killing the Franks, cowardly act.
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