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Annealing Made Perfect: AMP Mark II Unboxing, Setup, Annealing 308 Winchester and 6.5 Creedmoor 

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@bandite77
@bandite77 5 лет назад
I've been using the AMP Mk2 for about six months. So easy to use, no guesswork and you can start and only do 20 cases, leave to deal with the kids/wife/life in general, come back and continue with the same exact end-result for each case. Always a perfect metallurgic result. Repeatability and consistency, the two most important parameters in precision shooting.
@yojimbo05
@yojimbo05 3 года назад
Do you have to sacrifice cases each time you relaod or when you do a batch of brass to be annealed.
@adriandeklerk887
@adriandeklerk887 2 года назад
@@yojimbo05 you only have to sacrifice One piece of brass Once per batch.
@yojimbo05
@yojimbo05 2 года назад
@@adriandeklerk887 gotcha thank you for the information
@daviddale3624
@daviddale3624 5 лет назад
I fully appreciate the premium price for the absolute state-of-the-art annealing equipment. This is not entry level equipment by any means...just the best.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Well said- agree with you there.
@luvtahandload7948
@luvtahandload7948 5 лет назад
Love my AMP. Have had it for 3 years. Recently purchased the Aztec upgrade. So fast. So easy. Wouldn't go to a torch or salt bath method for all the Lapua brass in the world. Use it on every reloading cycle. Bullet tension stays the same every shot for the life of the brass, which is extensive.
@ironbomb6753
@ironbomb6753 4 года назад
I cant afford this machine, but i could afford the salt bath. I like what you say about the life of the brass. Thats important to me. I really noticed a shrinking of my groups once i began annealing. But i have a little ngvway to go to get sub MOA....👍
@Oldhogleg
@Oldhogleg 5 лет назад
I bought an annealing machine two decades ago and still using it! It's a must when you you're doing brass forming for wildcats.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Awesome- what kind of annealer?
@Oldhogleg
@Oldhogleg 5 лет назад
@@Ultimatereloader if I remember correctly, it's the Ken Knight BC 1000 Automatic Case Annealer; does about one thousand per hour. Paid a about $500+ because of the extra plates. I don't think it's being made anymore.
@joemoment-o1275
@joemoment-o1275 5 лет назад
@@Ultimatereloader I've seen them as simple as a slide for your brass(think Gatling gun magazine) As the brass drops, it's heated and dropped into water or your container. The heat source is a small propane torch. Basically just drop brass through and you're on your way
@juliusjames5577
@juliusjames5577 3 года назад
I didn’t know a sticker and hat are included! Now the price seems worth it. Thanks man!
@Douglas1ro
@Douglas1ro 6 месяцев назад
Right though
@arnoldburghraef6830
@arnoldburghraef6830 5 лет назад
I have owned an AMP annealer for about a year. It works great and the customer service can't be beat.
@buick4622
@buick4622 3 года назад
I would hope so for $1500
@jasoncown
@jasoncown 3 года назад
To the people complaining about price - this isn't for you. You get what you pay for and if you're bitching about investing in precision tooling for a hobby, you should reconsider what you're investing your time in.
@Chrissers2010
@Chrissers2010 5 лет назад
2:02 Helpful hint: Desiccant rather than "dissectant" (which is not a word). Awesome product and review!
@davidschmidt5810
@davidschmidt5810 3 года назад
Great product for the pro shooter who wants to squeeze out another .001 from their groups. I’ll be curious to see a test on groups from the amp vs propane annealers. Your vids are the best Gavin.
@bigingo4269
@bigingo4269 2 года назад
300 yards not the big difference
@jpthomason
@jpthomason 5 лет назад
That's almost the height of reloading decadence! It reminds me of the heady days of the Lyman Case Prep Xpress
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
It's pretty amazing!
@jdr285
@jdr285 5 лет назад
The AMP machine is certainly not for everyone - especially in light of the cost. However, after evaluating different methods which included not just the fabled internet search but actually speaking with accomplished shooters who do anneal, (not all top shooters anneal, David Tubb to name one) I chose to anneal, to use induction annealing, and specifically the AMP Mark II for the consistency it provides and the ease of use. Changing between cases is so simple - just change the pilot and enter the code and one is off and running. There is no flame to adjust in intensity or position or gas pressure to worry about, no tempilaq or guessing on proper temperature so only one burned case per lot, no worry about high temp liquid salt spilling or splashing, it takes only about a total of 6 seconds for each case (which includes transfer from loading block, to shellholder, to machine, to cooling pan). As I said, the AMP is not for everyone, but it was the right choice for me.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Well said Jim!
@shadetreelife3670
@shadetreelife3670 5 лет назад
I got the first model of the AMP with 4 caliber adapters and two of the brass shell holder adapters on EBay for $700.00. Slightly used. Have done 2500 cases, works great
@jetthreat5000
@jetthreat5000 5 лет назад
Mick Hayes the one that was on eBay a few days ago? Haha
@shadetreelife3670
@shadetreelife3670 5 лет назад
Jonathan thornton no, I have had mine about a year now. Keep eyes open, they are out there. I tried several other kinds with the flame method and didn’t like it, induction is the best IMO
@jetthreat5000
@jetthreat5000 5 лет назад
Mick Hayes gotcha! I built my own induction annealer.
@jetthreat5000
@jetthreat5000 5 лет назад
Mick Hayes I’ve been tempted to buy an AMP, but I have enjoyed developing my home built induction annealer andddd making improvements over time.
@shadetreelife3670
@shadetreelife3670 5 лет назад
Jonathan thornton good for you! I know building your own induction set up would be satisfying to do. I really didn’t have time or smarts to do it myself, lol. Good on ya
@BrianClarkpharmd
@BrianClarkpharmd 5 лет назад
Wow you lucky man...if I didn’t have so many hobbies and things to buy this would be high on my reloading list...for now I’m using the lowly annealeez
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
If not now, perhaps later? :)
@willo7734
@willo7734 Год назад
After reading the literature and watching all the videos I finally decided to pull the trigger on one of these. This stuff is fascinating and I’ll be happy to not have to deal with torches anymore. I’ll be very interested to analyze different brands of brass too.
@nicholas1740
@nicholas1740 5 лет назад
$1,400.. now i know why you didn't tell the price.
@steverowe2943
@steverowe2943 5 лет назад
Two tips: 1) Use a deeper pan for the annealed cases. I use a bread loaf pan and use the edge to scrape the brass out of the shell holder. No need to touch that hot brass with your fingers. I also use a hot pad under the pan to protect the bench. 2) You should only need to touch the start once when annealing.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Thanks Steve- just found that out about the Start button :) I'll look at the bread trays, love the hot pad/insulator idea...
@MrTNBassmaster
@MrTNBassmaster 4 года назад
1500$ and take all day. I'll pass . I use Annealeez and you can load a ton and set back and watch it run . For around 225$
@johncashwell1024
@johncashwell1024 3 года назад
Yes! Annealing with the Annealeez is the only way to go for us regular folks. The price is right and it can anneal a lot of brass over a short amount of time.
@yojimbo05
@yojimbo05 3 года назад
@@johncashwell1024 how you both experienced the same results or is there any diffence in this annealing machine comapred to Annealeez
@Sean-pw3yr
@Sean-pw3yr 5 лет назад
Just received mine a few weeks back. Thing is awesome and worth the price.
@greggarmin9426
@greggarmin9426 3 года назад
That start button sure gets a workout. Can you imagine doing 200-300 brass? Standing or sitting feeding and pressing the start button for hours. I’ll stick with loading the hopper on my flame thrower and sit back watching videos while it does it’s thing.
@hank3152
@hank3152 5 лет назад
I anneal by the salt bath process at 1/10 the cost ($140 vs $1400) and although it isn’t as perfect as the AMP I doubt if anybody could tell the difference in either longevity or accuracy.
@Nick-rk6mn
@Nick-rk6mn 5 лет назад
Yeah but this has a case feeder it's the Cadillac of annealing. www.creedmoorsports.com/product/AMPMAF/see-all-departments?pk_cid=10&pk_keyword=AMPMAF&pk_medium=multifeeds&pk_campaign=GoogleUS&pk_source=GoogleUS&pk_content=SportingGoodsOutdoorRecreation&GoogleUS&gclid=CjwKCAjwm4rqBRBUEiwAwaWjjFmnSLpg2jqmQmvbiuv2LFSnpPBOnLjbKxd5Nrx_QXdotwJJgK0ALhoCrcYQAvD_BwE
@KyleShields
@KyleShields 5 лет назад
Was going to mention the same. AMP is nice for sure but for most people spending some time at the range plinking, it's probably overkill.
@murimurimrui
@murimurimrui 4 года назад
With my reloading knowledge regarding tools. The high price tools are always worth it, especially for the speed, convenience, and repeatable results it offers. Another in my bag of wants right after the Labradar chronograph.
@Edgy01
@Edgy01 5 месяцев назад
Get a LabRadar instead.
@murimurimrui
@murimurimrui 4 месяца назад
@@Edgy01 Lol, you won any big league long range competition with just the lab radar?
@jerrygolden832
@jerrygolden832 2 года назад
Creedmoor Sports sells a nice Pilot Tray to store pilots, saving the reinstallation of the thread protector for pilots. Threads sit in a protective recess inbthe tray. Made from the same indestructible material their loading trays use.
@tonycking0121
@tonycking0121 3 года назад
Would be nice if they included a storage place on the machine for your different pilots. Pretty dollar for this thing.
@kevinroberts781
@kevinroberts781 5 лет назад
Very nice piece of equipment. I could build the main electrical parts myself. I would need someone to make the bushings for it tho. Electrical items and the case...maybe 300 bucks. I really may start on this project! Much neater than the flame.
@nilescoyote4829
@nilescoyote4829 5 лет назад
Thanks Gavin, I've been staying away from the Aztec feature and just using the standard mode. You answered a question of mine when you walked us through start up. I'll have to try that next time around. Can't wait to see your testing and results.
@paulvenn4447
@paulvenn4447 5 лет назад
The best of the best kit, but sometimes you can get away with the old drill + butane torch method (and some Tempilaq for different brands of brass)
@frankjaegar1805
@frankjaegar1805 4 года назад
Fun fact, all brass is annealed at the factory. I still do it when I'm loading for serious matches but it's more of a superstition for me
@frankjaegar1805
@frankjaegar1805 3 года назад
@@Adcomb yeah absolutely mate your correct, that's why I still do it. Although alot of people don't realise that it has already been annealed at the factory, Iv spoken to alot of people over the years who thought brass had never been annealed
@harveygussow7913
@harveygussow7913 5 лет назад
I didn’t know that there was more than one company making annealing machines that came out of the reloading brass. There are two now that does the job in New Zealand . The other one has a really nice attachment that allows to automatically load and load shells without touching the case. I like the alternative of the alternative machine plus the accessory that automates the whole routine.
@rundmm
@rundmm 5 лет назад
I use a Giraud. Load it up with cases and let it go once you have it set. No hands after you set it up so you can do other stuff. Not nearly as expensive as this setup. This is a very nice setup though.
@ShootingAndReloading
@ShootingAndReloading 3 года назад
@Gavintoobe - what happened to all the follow-up on the annealer you mentioned at the end of the video? Did it not live up to expectations or is the content still on the backlog?
@gregparadise9498
@gregparadise9498 5 лет назад
Another great product Gavin and setup demo. I received mine in April and love it. I ordered the auto feeder a week later and it makes the process even easier!! The AMP guys did an interesting study on the Salt Bath annealing. A must watch, surprising results. I wont give a spoiler🤫
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Thanks Greg- I read their paper- very interesting. I'm hoping to get a hardness tester at some point... I'd love to take readings of my own!
@Hankusorealius
@Hankusorealius 5 лет назад
It comes with a cozy! Awesome.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Haha
@mr.horseshoe2301
@mr.horseshoe2301 Год назад
I'll wait for the mk iii. Going to use my kids' college fund to buy it.
@FullSendPrecision
@FullSendPrecision 5 лет назад
Use a metal bowl for the hot brass... It'll be a lot easier to slide the case out of the holder. You'll get a quick rhythm going.
@christionorollinetti1768
@christionorollinetti1768 5 лет назад
Great video and demo. Love my Vertex Bench Source.
@chethaynes5802
@chethaynes5802 4 года назад
Excellent ! Now I am AMPed ! ! !
@ShootingAndReloading
@ShootingAndReloading 5 лет назад
Great overview of the machine. No doubt at all that it's a brilliant annealer, but more importantly, I cannot wait to see if that annealing has any accuracy effect on new or aged brass. Hope you will split the brass into 2 batches of annealed and non-annealed each for brass age / batch for a fair test. These machines are a significant investment and it would be great to see what if any difference it makes in the real world, and at what distance any effects are noticeable, before committing.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Kevin- good idea on the content! I'll also be doing longevity tests to see how annealing impacts brass life...
@zeissOholic
@zeissOholic 5 лет назад
@Kevin Adam - I anneal with the AMP MkII after every firing and have noticed lower SD's and about 1/4 - 1/3 better accuracy with my 6.5 CM and .308. The neck tension is consistent and that's what matters to me more than longer case life. Every time you anneal a case even if it's been fired many times, it returns to it's virgin state. The only thing that limits the life of a properly sized case is that the primer pocket will eventually give out.
@nofeesh
@nofeesh 5 лет назад
I don't think reloaders need to anneal their brass. From my metallurgy engineering class I learned when the new brass is formed by series of dies from a flat disc, it goes through deformation and causes stress to the metal ( becomes brittle ) therefore it needs to be heat treated to relieve the stress and bring the metal back to it's original malleable property. There is negligible deformation caused nor does it get hot enough to change the metallic properties of the brass.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Brass gets hardened from being fired and being worked by the sizing die (work hardening).
@nofeesh
@nofeesh 5 лет назад
@@Ultimatereloader true to both but how many times would you have to bend a paper clip in order to break it if we're only bending it 1/100" at a time?
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
@@nofeesh My friend Eric has had a lot of issues with 6.5 Creedmoor case longevity (splits, separations, etc). Will annealing help? We're going to find out!
@nofeesh
@nofeesh 5 лет назад
@@Ultimatereloader I’m very interested in your result as well! I didn’t mean to be adamant about the subject, my opinion is mostly based on theory which may have faults. I have reloaded 12,000+ rounds of 5.56 for about three years and I have learned few things that I can share if it benefits anyone. Some of the brass I have been using were reloaded well into 20+ times. I am now noticing handful of brass with splitting at the neck. What I have read on the internet is when a brass is full length sized multiple times, the base of it's cartridge will weaken and fail. Contrary to that, I am finding the neck is splitting vertically. I know, I shouldn’t be reloading it that many times but I wanted to know how many times I can reload a brass before it fails. Also, I’ve learned 5.56 brass does not need to be trimmed, at least I have not done so and I have tested brass well over it’s recommended trimmed length and I had no issues. I have 6.5 Creedmoor but don't have any experience with it so I'm very interested in your result. Thanks for the videos, when I got started reloading, your videos were instrumental to me.
@barndweller4573
@barndweller4573 4 года назад
I hope these are as good as people say. I just ordered one!
@charltonlwalker
@charltonlwalker 7 месяцев назад
Just ordered a Mk II on sale.
@Gunners_Mate_Guns
@Gunners_Mate_Guns Год назад
I'm quite sure that this gives you the most precision possible for annealing, but it doesn't auto-feed, and the thing costs a bloody fortune. Maybe there's a benchrester out there who can justify this to milk the last 0.001" out of his groups, but I just don't see how nearly any regular shooter would get this when there are considerably more affordable annealers that even auto-feed all of the brass.
@charleshetrick3152
@charleshetrick3152 5 лет назад
Did no one suggest the Giraud annealing set up with the Annie Induction kit? It is a near fully automatic system. Near the end you say “very fast process”, so much slower than my Giraud. Please have a look if you haven’t. His trimmer is also the best and fastest I’ve ever seen.
@charleshetrick3152
@charleshetrick3152 5 лет назад
www.giraudtool.com/index.html
@lucass4758
@lucass4758 5 лет назад
Got a link or anything to this setup with Giraud and Annie?
@rundmm
@rundmm 5 лет назад
@@lucass4758 Giraud has a video on his web site as well as here on youtube for the annie. Don't know about the service after the purchase of the annie or if you would even need it but was told that sometimes it is hard to get in touch with the maker of the annie. I use both of Girauds tools, the annealer and the trimmer and they are both top notch. The trimmer is unreal and the annealer is hands free after set up. You load the container up with 100-200 or so 223 and let it go.
@charleshetrick3152
@charleshetrick3152 5 лет назад
Lucas S his website is the link above your comment. Everything “rundmm” said is seconded by me. Annealing wise it easily handles 50 BMG too. Pro tip Get metal catchment bins.
@lucass4758
@lucass4758 5 лет назад
charles hetrick was hoping for something more in-depth on the setup of it
@dougrogillio2223
@dougrogillio2223 5 лет назад
Bought this unit last month.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
How are you liking it Doug?
@dougrogillio2223
@dougrogillio2223 5 лет назад
Good tools are indispensable. No fire means no added heat. Fast, quiet & simple to operate. Worth every penny.
@usamadepride
@usamadepride 4 года назад
More like annealing made slow and expensive for that price they should have a automated start
@jordancooper2395
@jordancooper2395 5 лет назад
You only need to press start once. The light turns red when its annealing
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Yes, I found that out today 😂 I was working WAY too hard :)
@thompsonjerry3412
@thompsonjerry3412 5 лет назад
I would like to see a comparison between the machine and by hand, drill, torch and water, say 20 rounds each for accuracy and velocity deviation.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Great idea! Perhaps in the future I'll look at doing a story like that! Lots of work to do with this machine in the meantime :)
@zeissOholic
@zeissOholic 5 лет назад
Great video gavintoobe .
@juanvazquez-torres5676
@juanvazquez-torres5676 5 лет назад
I’ll pass I prefer the Annealeez Gen 2 machine for $275.00 Much more economical and you can place a 200 cases, the difference is uses a small camping propane canister tank but You have deep pockets them buy AMP Mark ll $1,500
@dinohudson1432
@dinohudson1432 5 лет назад
$1500.... I have to pass
@TexasLeverGunner
@TexasLeverGunner 5 лет назад
I'm with you. It seems he is reviewing nothing but the gucci equipment almost no handloader except the most serious (BPCR guys, F-class, service rifle etc...) shooters would have.
@nickjm37fordel1
@nickjm37fordel1 5 лет назад
This is only for the rich !!!!!! Way over the average reloader !! Didn’t even watch the video, Gaven, how about us normal people.
@lanceschul
@lanceschul 5 лет назад
Salt bath annealing is cheaper and arguably just as effective.
@zgennaro
@zgennaro 5 лет назад
Salt bath annealing works just as well and as quickly. It's just not as convenient and messier. Of course, AMP will tell you it sucks LOL. The results at the range along with brass consistency and longevity speak for themselves.
@lanceschul
@lanceschul 5 лет назад
Dean Hudson yes it is. It starts out as a solid then heats up to a liquid. After you’re done it returns to a white salt block.
@anthonymiller1849
@anthonymiller1849 5 лет назад
I think I'll have to save up some more coins for this. Great video and info for me to chew on.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Thanks Anthony- worth the investment!
@dougkapounek9024
@dougkapounek9024 5 лет назад
Would really love to go that way but the price or the amount I shoot just doesn't work...Bummmer
@roquri
@roquri 5 лет назад
Time to get the case feeder!
@danieldick7501
@danieldick7501 5 лет назад
Who delivered that "fragile" box? I'm having flashbacks of the start of Ace Ventura 😀
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
A Christmas Story: the leg lamp, "FRAGI-LE"
@Thesongstaysthesame
@Thesongstaysthesame 4 года назад
HDS! I have a package for you!!
@eugenejohnson8635
@eugenejohnson8635 5 лет назад
Hey hey hey 👍the best in the business should I say in the world
5 лет назад
Great tool but to much expensive for some shooters ;) I use the salt bath annealing process. Redo the kit cause can get it from Canada and it works great too but need to check be between 510° and 550° C to have a good annealing, only the bad side on this system, temperature check, need 30 min to have the good temperature too. Oki, an other, be really carefull to avoid water with salt :)
@robertcretu4363
@robertcretu4363 5 лет назад
Gavin = Billy Mays
@paulmartin6152
@paulmartin6152 2 года назад
I looked at their website and read the limited warranty section. I am wondering what problems will occur with replacement elements etc coming from New Zealand Since this machine is some serious bucks, warranty for the heating part of the system should be longer.
@ernstscholz3323
@ernstscholz3323 Год назад
Dear Gavin,happy festive days and a prosperous Newyear.I would like to know if these case pilots (where the cases get inserted to) are case specific or "mother"case specific.Or are they shoulder,neck,case length or base specific?!I got a couple wildcats of my own?(This is the reason)I got a wildcat based on the 6,5×55SM but blown out and necked down to .243 with a 35°shoulder.I also do have a 6-06AI as well as a 404 Jeffreys AI.Do I in all these cases take the normal 6,5-55SM insert or the 30-06 in case of the 6-06AI or the 404Jeffreys? For all cases based on .308 size base like(22-250,243Win,308,30-06,7×57,6×57,6Rem.,6,5×57,7×64,8×57,9,3×62)do I use the same insert?!With all cartridges based on the old 300H&H or 375H&H (257Wby.,300H&H,300Win.,300Wby.,340Wby,375H&H,7mmSTW,458Win.,416Rem,458Lott,etc.) Or are they case length based etc.? I would apreciate a more clear clarification in connection with this.I am interested to purchase a machine but would like to know more detail first.
@andymann271
@andymann271 3 года назад
Excellent it takes all the mysticism out of annealing. 2 questions does it come with the threaded shell holder? what is the network cable for?
@harveygussow7913
@harveygussow7913 5 лет назад
I’m sorry yo have the machine that I though was another machine. It didn’t take me long after I went through the maze that it was the same machine and I have good news as it comes with other machine that work with it. I could see that you may use it as another section and talk about it later. Neat machine non the less.
@C_Squared
@C_Squared 5 лет назад
You need to get the automated feeder system.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Looking into it!
@jamesgang94591
@jamesgang94591 5 лет назад
My butane torch for 5sec intervals does the same thing for 1/100th the $$$
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Daren James actually- it’s not the same- this machine analyzes cases and then uses a different method for heating/annealing. Not saying yours is bad or inadequate- just not the same :)
@zeissOholic
@zeissOholic 5 лет назад
@Darren James - Sorry to tell you buddy, your butane torch is not remotely even in the same league. I used the butane torch method for years and it was always hit or miss and a P.I.T.A.
@jamesgang94591
@jamesgang94591 5 лет назад
Potato tomato. Works for me and was recommended by the guy that taught me. We used to shoot all the time in Mo. He’d typically shoot clean at 600y with 75% X’s. I just think there’s top notch equipment and then there’s just throwing money out the window because it’s cool. Seems to me world class shooters have been butane for over 50y. Still love the show.
@jacopienaar9157
@jacopienaar9157 Год назад
I'd like to ask do you need to destroy case everytime if you annealing or can u use the same case everytime?
@jeffh699
@jeffh699 5 лет назад
So I still in the research part of reloading. I’m thinking of using the spare bedroom as my loading room. My concern is that it’s carpeted. Do I need to worry about static with either carpet or a plastic table used as a reloading bench? I know it’s not ideal but I’m just getting into it and don’t plan to do mass production stuff, just what I shoot and will probley form some 300 blk brass
@HITTING-STEEL-CA
@HITTING-STEEL-CA 5 лет назад
That is awesome. May I have it? I can totally use it.
@jimmybigtime
@jimmybigtime 5 лет назад
When are we gonna get some 6mm creedmoor reloading??? Jonesing for it my friend.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
I've run into some issues with the rifle's accuracy I'm working through. Was just testing this yesterday!
@208bode5
@208bode5 5 лет назад
The subject that seems to get overlooked is the group size. .........Everything else is equal and after 5 (or some other number) firings the brass shoots “X” with annealing and “X” without annealing.
@jetthreat5000
@jetthreat5000 5 лет назад
Brace yourself for the “SaLt BaTH AnEaLLinG dOEs tHe sAMe ThINg”
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Haha.
@SDMacMan
@SDMacMan 3 года назад
I see you are air cooling. Is that that your process still? Which is best, air or water?
@a.k.4363
@a.k.4363 3 года назад
Great video.
@mthornhill1961
@mthornhill1961 4 года назад
When is annealing needed?
@robertbryce7626
@robertbryce7626 Год назад
One question. If I purchase a bag of 500 308 once fired brass, since they are all 308 but there are many headstamps and many lot numbers, do you need to destroy all of them calibrating or is simply calibrating one of the 308 cases good enough for annealing the rest of the bag?
@sweatmanjim
@sweatmanjim 3 года назад
Why do you anneal your brass? what measurable [statistical] evidence have you determined from your rifle builds using annealed vs. not annealed brass? ps, love your work!
@rosskriegel1682
@rosskriegel1682 2 года назад
It's for consistency if you don't shoot long range it's not as important other than brass life it softens the neck back up and allows you to get the same neck tension better sd's and es's it will play a big roll once you start going for 1000+ yards
@anonymous_friend
@anonymous_friend 2 года назад
Is this a necessary process for straight wall cartridges or pistol calibers like 9mm?
@mortenbreiland3984
@mortenbreiland3984 4 года назад
Will the machine give you a different code if you preheat the case?
@bloggerfru
@bloggerfru 4 года назад
Great review! I usually do not clean brass after firing, only using brush thru neck. Do you think it is better to clean the brass for example with ultrasonic cleaner?
@CaptainCreampie69
@CaptainCreampie69 2 года назад
Ummmm, yeah. Clean the brass man. Ultrasonic is easy. Slap the brass in and put the detergent in and then just rinse after 30 minutes in the bath. If you want it to dry fast, put it in the oven or let it dry overnight and then de prime the brass, trim it, seat a primer, load the powder and seat a bullet. If you want you can crimp the neck too.
@Gunners_Mate_Guns
@Gunners_Mate_Guns Год назад
Just get a vibratory tumbler and use treated ground walnut hulls as the media. Tumble for 2-4 hours, sift out the media (there are lots of different media separators for this that can be gotten at reasonable prices), then load. You can run a brush through the necks if you want, but you probably won't need to do it, as long as you change out your tumbling media every 1000 or so cases tumbled in it.
@vern600r
@vern600r Год назад
you only need to press the start once you sossage 😄
@rtrapper4life
@rtrapper4life 5 лет назад
Someday...
@poorfatman5317
@poorfatman5317 5 лет назад
How much does that machine cost
@hank3152
@hank3152 5 лет назад
Tom Reed $1400.00 USD
@racer4ever33
@racer4ever33 5 лет назад
$1,400 on Brownells.
@poorfatman5317
@poorfatman5317 5 лет назад
Ty
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
This tool is not for all budgets, and it's not for people that want to just shoot factory ammo :)
@racer4ever33
@racer4ever33 5 лет назад
@@Ultimatereloader I guess I don't really have a problem with the price as much as I do for the speed of the machine. I was really thinking it would have some sort of feed tray rather than loading one at a time. How many times can you shoot a case without annealing before running into problems?
@duckslayer11000
@duckslayer11000 5 лет назад
I see no reason this should fetch such a hefty price.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Watch their how it's made video. :)
@CplSkiUSMC
@CplSkiUSMC 5 лет назад
$1,395.00 at Brownells... if you have money to burn, I'm sure this is the cat's meow.
@ironbomb6753
@ironbomb6753 4 года назад
Do a giveaway for this machine.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 4 года назад
I’m planning one for this coming year! Stay tuned...
@ironbomb6753
@ironbomb6753 4 года назад
@@Ultimatereloader you da man Gavin,! Great content you present. 🇺🇸👍😎Thanks
@michaelhale4041
@michaelhale4041 Год назад
Yea checked the price out of my budget
@sandych33ks1
@sandych33ks1 5 лет назад
Its a great product which we all would like to have. That being said 90 percent of the viewers could never afford this. 1,500 to anneal brass ??? Do some videos on what an every day 9-5 working man would have. Not life styles of the rich n famous.. You are out of touch with your viewers.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Please take a look at my video library- TC Compass Review, LEE Reloading Equipment, Budget Precision 223, ..., ..., ..., ... My goal is to show as much variety of tools as possible- cheap, mid-grade, and expensive. Do you not watch Top Gear because they show Ferarris? :)
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Also- I'm doing research and sharing my data with my viewers. Real research demands real tools. I realize not everyone is doing that, but competitive shooters and researchers need top-quality tools.
@gregwisinski7870
@gregwisinski7870 5 лет назад
Would you do avideo on when to trek over to the dark side of reloading ; )
@davidc398
@davidc398 5 лет назад
Early again, just before 9pm uk time.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Welcome, from what city/town are you viewing?
@davidc398
@davidc398 5 лет назад
Hi Gavin, 28 miles south if Birmingham. Just finished work at my reloading bench and opened up you tube at my favourite presenter.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Thank you David- you are too kind! :) My family is from the Cornwall / Tiverton area, at least on the "Gear" side of the family :)
@FunPrecision
@FunPrecision Год назад
This machine is perfect, but for me, I would rather take 6000 Lapua Scenar bullets for the same price. Certainly not for everyone.
@leefeatherston7014
@leefeatherston7014 5 лет назад
ok I can use it cool
@newerest1
@newerest1 3 года назад
dude you look just like stephen wonderboy thompson lol
@chrisgs8727
@chrisgs8727 2 года назад
I stay with a candle My bare fingers and a can with water
@peterabrahamse6545
@peterabrahamse6545 3 года назад
Does it come with a porsche??
@dustinparmley5000
@dustinparmley5000 4 года назад
Pressing the start button 2xs after every piece of brass looks annoying.
@randylong8156
@randylong8156 2 года назад
Any discount codes?
@sheepdawg6946
@sheepdawg6946 4 года назад
I can NOT afford that nor do I think it is much better than some of the others such as Bench Source, etc.
@timmcfarland3311
@timmcfarland3311 2 года назад
Is that thing $1400?
@cavemanballistics6338
@cavemanballistics6338 4 года назад
No effing way! I will stick to my Annelezz machine. I can think of a better way to piss $1500.00 down the drain.
@LKN4WAR
@LKN4WAR 4 года назад
Will this machine do 338 lapua? 50bmg?
@johnbarton1878
@johnbarton1878 3 года назад
Yes it will, I do 338LM with it and have seen great results with my reloads.
@communicationiskey-
@communicationiskey- 3 года назад
I like your channel and topics. But they seem more like Sunday morning TV infomercials than reviews. Not mentioning the numerous times you promised a topic that never come out. Infomercials and clickbait should not be part of serious channel content. No disrespect intended, just constructive comment …
@Kito66j1
@Kito66j1 5 лет назад
Who can really afford these tools you’ve been reviewing? I sure can’t. It’s good to see how far reloading equipment has develop but the point of reloading, for most, is to save money.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
I produce content for people in all budget categories- and I'm showing a lot of the tools that I'm using or will be using to do serious research and provide meaningful insights about reloading to this audience. I'd invite you to view some of my content featuring the TC Compass, Kel-Tec PF-9, Budget Precision 223 Series, LEE reloading gear, etc. Lots of variety in price ranges.
@Kito66j1
@Kito66j1 5 лет назад
gavintoobe hey Gavin. I am glad you do. I’ve been watching your vids for a long time and basically learn a lot from you. I’m also glad the industry has leapt forward but I think products like these are over kill when there are less expensive alternatives. If people can afford them by all means, they should go ahead and purchase them. Again, I think the pricing for some of these things are a bit too much and overkill.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Kito66j1 it’s like a pro camera lens or a Cummins engine in a truck- not everyone needs them or can afford them but they definitely have their place! This particular a new machine does stuff that others don’t.
@evanwindom3265
@evanwindom3265 2 года назад
@@Ultimatereloader True, but to have any kind of through-put, you need their feeding gizmo and a third party case feeder. For the price, I would expect them to provide something that's a little less tedious.
@mustangfan3295
@mustangfan3295 5 лет назад
Way, way too expensive just to anneal brass. The Annealeze is $250.00
@wilk128
@wilk128 5 лет назад
How long will it take to do a 5 gallon bucket of 223? lol
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Ask my kids!!!!! haha.
@MrVideoyoulike
@MrVideoyoulike 4 года назад
1400 bucks! I will stick to the drill gun and torch. I would rather buy a gun fir that price.
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