How many have you seen? I have never witnessed one. Only a few videos repeatedly posted. I have snapped SRAM X01 carbon and Shimano XT aluminum cranks. It happens with all brands. Haters gonna hate.
@@AverageJoe97 they snap all the time. My friend has broken 2 and he is not a hardcore rider. There is a reason on all of 5 devs ads on Instagram they have comments turned off. If comments were turned on you would see all the comments about broken crank arms. Why do you think they have started making solid crank arms. These cranks are a gimmick and are unsafe to ride.
Besides the R&D some companies do like for example 5DEV, you start to wonder how much markup they actually ask for such products when you see a Chinese manufacturer produce these for $70... Keeping in mind they also need to have some profit on it. It's just mind boggling how much overpriced MTB products have become the last 5 years. Around 5 years ago you bought a fully decked out Canyon MTB, all high-end components and carbon frame for ~$3500 max. The current prices of sometimes 11-13k is just insane.
I agree with what you are saying to a point, but you also have to consider that these Chinese companies are using essentially wage slaves to produce these products at a much lower cost, they probably have much worse quality control, they have virtually no warranty service, and most of these companies are artificially kept afloat by the CCPs easy money credit policies.
@@andrewpm2 I don't think R&D was all that extensive. Those cranks have been snapping. During Covid they started making cranks when supply overseas was severely limited. They do have high end machining experience though so I'm betting some of it was a best guess.
Great comparison video. but you got one thing wrong, 7075 has higher tensile strength than 7050. What 7050 is better at is stress corrosion resistance.
This is fantastic for the consumer, we're not stuck with way overpriced brand name stuff that is made in China just same. You just have to be a savvy buyer, if you are an extreme mountain biker, it might your worth to pay for best known quality, but if you are recreational like most of us, you can get just about good quality for a fraction of the price, just be careful of junk stuff, which goes without saying is the same if you buy from bricks and mortar stores, you can buy junk there just the same. The consumer wins!
If you ride a lot then you definitely can't get the most expensive derailleurs, cassettes, chains or cranks because all those are consumables that wear quickly or break. Usually people who have 10k bikes don't really ride that much or hard so they don't break stuff. I ride 100 mtb rides a season before winter and all of the drivetrain parts are practically consumable. This year I've bent two cranks, broken or worn 2 derailleurs, 1 chain, 1 cassette and that's normal rate of consumption for an ebike.
Just to be clear, "Bucklos" doesn't actually manufacture anything as far as I can tell. They are a brand that contracts from various manufacturers. The very same manufacturer may have made both of those cranksets but bucklos contracted for higher level finishing and materials.
Why is it messed up? 5Dev is not do anything new. They just applied simple engineering principles that have been used for centuries. Some will say incorrectly at that. The design is solid until you apply impacts to key locations.
I got the Evosid version of those in 165mm in my 180mm enduro rig and I do quite a lot of medium sized drops/jumps and they´re holding up really well. I even managed to snap my frame in half and the cranks are still there without a problem.
Biggest drawback is only 170mm length. I spent 5 Dev prices to get into short 155mm arm length (I’m a short 5’6”). If Bucklos starts offering short options, they will be a serious alternative.
Nice to see a realistic price on something. (Only 20 bucks on ali) I get that 5 dev is a superior product but, 10x’s ??! I highly doubt for the average rider, the cost is worth it. I would have zero interest in their BB but I’m sure the bucklos more then get the job done. Please keep us posted on the longevity of these arms for $130!! Thanks !!
I would not be surprised 5Dev has outsourced to Bucklos for an OEM application. Does Patent Pending really mean anything anywhere? What would 5Dev think they are trying to patent? The fundamental aspects of the design have been around for centuries.
Ive always had great luck with any Chinese parts ive bought. If given the choice id buy name brand parts but thats not always affordable. Im happy with two sets of bucklos wheels that i have and three sets of ixf cranks on some of my bikes.
Let’s be honest. Bucklos is not stealing customers from 5DEV. Anybody who has the money and values high quality components is going to buy the 5DEV set. The type of person to buy the Bucklos was never going to buy the much more expensive set. It is still stealing their design though. 5DEV didn’t invent hollow spindles, but that design is *exactly* the same. If Bucklos put some unique touches on the design and built off of it, I’d have no problems at all. China is gonna China though!
5Dev high quality? These cranks are breaking all the time. 5Dev would go bankrupt replacing all those arms if the cost to buy one set didn't include 50 replacement arms.
Yeah, at first glance counterfeits are a bad thing but I see the point of some clones that are more of a "replica", a German audio guy had such a product last year, the original power amplifier "darTZeel NHB-108" retails for around 50 000€ and the "clone" costs less than a thousand bucks, has a much different design (inside and outside so no problems with the branding) but of course tries to imitate the sound characteristics. He tested it and it works fine and let's be honest: I'm sure >90% of the population spend less than 50 000€ in their entire life on audio/HiFi equipment, so they may dream of some highend stuff but it's far above their financial capabilites or their enthusiasm for HiFi. It's okay as long as they don't hurt patents or gave it the original name (had this in Barcelona a couple years ago, there were a bunch of hawkers here and there however they sold FC Barcelona Jerseys with the official logo of the club and sponsors but without the Nike swoosh. And here the price difference is also very large, so I'm sure it doesn't "steal" customers who wanted to buy a real 5Dev set. It's your decision, I myself would rather get some stuff that's in my budget from more obtainable brands than buying clones/knockoffs (I got a authentic Boss handbag instead of some LV, Chanel, Gucci etc. 1:1 knockoff and have a honest Android phone by Sony and not an iPhone clone (I saw some videos where they got a cheapo Android phone and modded the housing to make it look like an iPhone)), but as I said, as long as it's an off-brand/fantasy brand with good quality I'm okay with that.
Interesting video. I hope you do a long term test on these. There seems to be plenty of quality Chinese made parts out there. I bought a set of Diety TMAC knock offs from Ali Express for $40 and they are absolutely great quality and no different than the real $180 TMAC’s I have on another bike
That's the same argument as saying your sisters pussy feels the same as every other girls. Unless you've hardness tested the spindle and bearings you cannot say they're the same, they might look and feel the same but strength and durability in your pedals is probably more important for your health than any other part you buy
Cranks should cost 70$. I think I just bent my 300$ Race Face cranks and last year bent I think 4 FSA cranks that were 40$ a pair. It's just a waste of money to spend a lot on cranks. It's just a wearable part if you ride a lot. Mainly ebiking with normal bike crank hits aren't really a problem even with 175mm cranks. These Atlas cranks that I bent today were custom drilled 150mm. 600$ is an insane price for cranks. If you have to get a BB and a new spider lock ring for that BB it's then 700$.
There is a reason you are bending cheap cranks.. If you invested in a decent pair of cranks you would never bend them and many have lifetime warranty if you did. You get what you pay for… I am 200lbs expert cross country enduro racer.
@@LanceBailey-un1qe Like I said. Today I bent a 200$ pair of Race Face Atlas Cranks add a 100$ to that for the drilling so a 300$ of cranks. It's not a problem with a normal bike. But it's a problem with ebikes because you have so much more speed when pedaling. Enduro you don't really pedal and when you do it's usually not technical terrain. With XC your speed is just so much slower in technical terrain again it's not the same klind of a problem as it is with ebikes. Yeah the FSA cranks are cheap aluminium that is weaker. But it's a superior product because they are so cheap. It's much better to spend that 80$ a season than buy stupidly expensive cranks. 500$ cranks are just a pure waste of money. When you say expert how many times do you ride terrain a season?
@@rawmancemtb 4000-5000 miles a year. You have one of 3 issues: You have too many pedal strikes so better lines or you are morbidly obese or your cranks are too long. It could also be a combination of the aforementioned 3 issues. Buy better cranks save time and money in the long run…
@@LanceBailey-un1qe You just have no idea what you are talking about. You lack reading comprehension. It's pretty idiotic to talk about too long cranks when I already said I have 150mm custom drilled cranks... I have KOMs on most the tracks I've ridden so line choices seem to be pretty good. I do have a high BMI but that's because of muscle... You sound like a real wanker. I also mentioned the Atlas cranks cost 200 dollars and are meant for DH... It's far cheaper to buy the 40 dollar FSA cranks and bend more than buy more expensive cranks. Which I also already mentioned. You don't seem to be blessed with many brain cells. I'm sure you never break anything riding at granny pace but when you are pushing pace stuff takes hits and breaks.
have evosid cranks in my dirtjumper bike and feeling of hiting my ankle is terrible. If i spend that much money on 5dev cranks and it feel same cause look same i would be pissed off
In businesses its normal to have competitor's but copying other people also is not an option either , but for us riders this is something to be considered , well ...your choice
7075 Aluminum is used for small airplanes! The highest is 7500 aluminum for space rockets. That's what I learned from the website of Ghost bikes (Made in Germany).
Is there a Bucklos (or other) configuration to replace Shimano Hollowtech 2? I have a Giant Trance with 170mm cranks, 89PF BB and Boost of course. I want to move to smaller cranks, most likely 155mm. What are my options? They seem limited if I stick with the Hollowtech BB, I'd probably have to replace the BB with a Dub compatible one if I use Bucklos, but are there other ways to approach this?
Not sure about the bottom bracket the axel but the cranks look way better than the originals..!? Would deffo use the Bucklos cranks over the original cranks.
Comparing the cosmetics they may look similar or almost exactly the same. Different alloys, good point to make. Unfortunately some people will not understand that cheap knockoffs can be dangerous to use. Maybe some knockoff suspension forks is a good idea too. 😂
There are no teats yet, so how do you know ? The same material and CNC makes them equal - they are not "handmade" and casted from beer cans. So the difference is only in taxes and salaries. Need test to find out.
The Bucklos cranks state CNC, but they look like forged aluminium to me. Interestingly, the EVOSID brand looks exactly the same, except they say forged aluminium. It’s hard to say without looking at them in person though. Edit: The seller ZEROING Bike store says Forged on the EVOSID, but some other sellers say CNC. They’re all the exact same photos though. It’s a bit confusing
@@VisionMTB Yeah I’m not sure. It’s hard to tell with these Chinese manufacturers. They certainly have the ability to create some great products, but they don’t tend to be as trustworthy IMO. I’d lean towards it being CNC, but the difference in sellers labeling is strange.
isn't forged aluminum supposed to be stronger the CNC though? Also I'm guessing these Bucklos cranks aren't forged or CNC. I'm betting they're probably cast aluminum and then finished to make them look good.
Great knock offs but if your crotch or worse take a beating you cant complain to Amazon. Plus if your bike goes into a local shop with the chi com knock offs you are going to get a really bad vibe from the shop folks and at that point just leave with your bike.
Bucklos is not a brand who makes and engineer their own component they are a distribution company that have their components made by other Chinese manufacturers you never heard about like: Altop precision, Anhui liteduro, Xingtai tianjiu or maybe you've heard of FXT metal? 😂
Down load some 3d modeling software. Learn how to measure. Create a model. Send to china on any of the hundreds of manufacturing company's in China. Specify what material you want to use. Nek minute cranks in the post. Job done!
Stop shilling for companies that steal designs with no thought put into the safety and functionality of the product. Not only is that shady AF but the product could also be unsafe. I hear the same BS all the time, “okay, they’re stealing but they’re appealing to a different customer.” Theft = no bueno, no matter how you cut it. All other rationalizations are just that.
Irresponsible to even show this garbage. "Hey, let's give free advertising to Aliexpress knock-off garbage products! Neato!" If someone impales themselves on one of these POS cranks, they could name you in the lawsuit. For we all know, there will be ZERO recourse going after some foreign garbage copycat "manufacturer" of that junk. Buying this dreck is ALMOST as bad as buying knowingly stolen bikes & components. Then again, the buyer of "really good deals" from shady sources deserves to suffer the consequences of putting critical junk components on their bikes.
