Another Player Revolt Is Brewing - War Thunder 

120ping... more like 250+

Just ban all Chinese

they are cheats lol, being able to turn ground objects on/off would be a cheat having your missles re written to be super 120s is cheating lol esiest thing we can do as players that care, stop paying an playing till they answer.

Facts dog those guys are cheats or bots 9 times out of 10

Do they not have their own client? I thought mainland China had their own client with different tanks and even a gold ZSU

Cons of being the most popular nation to play

Air and ground I was a US main after being a 19k for many years. Now it's filled with window licking 1 pump chumps that have no business being at top tier since they do not have a lineup.

@@jb7483always charging straight in to point in their new premium tank or firing off one missile that hits nothing and dying

​@jb7483 I was a German main that switched to US and I can't tell which has worse players, the Oblivious German players who don't aim for weak spots or US players that leave after 1-2 deaths.

play arcade or sim and just try to kill enemies instead of destroying bases like a plant

We have the RP bonus for top tier to be mad about too, don't worry, when gaijin do shit they think about everyone

They deserve the negative reviews for all the other bad stuff they’ve done

this is how gaijin gets you. WE SHOULD NOT BE OK WITH ANY KIND OF RP NERF

⁠@@2goober4uuhm no. Rocketing a base and die gives significantly less RP than getting even just 2 kills. They were doing it because it still gives a reasonable amount and the nerf will stop that. It’s a good change and your way of crying about every single thing just makes people stop taking you seriously because you sound like a spoiled brat.

I'm playing war thunder for 5000h now and I don't give a shit

didnt really help much, my mig 27m/k(both unspaded and spaded) still stuck where f-4 are still way too fast to catch up especially worse when now it involves 3-8 f-4 flying full bombs every game rather than the 2-3 like it used to, and the base respawn take way longer as everyone took longer to destroy the bases. so if you are too late, you are completely bugger for the a few extra minutes my method though a bit destructive and follows how gaijin balances the game is to penalize fighter who bomb by reducing total rewards similar to killing bot replacement for players in empty matches.(the game telling you to stop hunting the non primary targets) and similar but inverse for strike aircraft who hunt planes except with a smaller penalty -20% vs -60-80% for fighters who bomb. there are better ways but given how slow gaijin pushes a large change like variable battle rating.

Considering that I feel that then they should make certain classes of jets get different levels of rewards from destroying bases, with bombers getting the most points, and jet fighters getting the least. edit: Considering you edited that last part into your comment, just before, and what I've said, it seems we have the same idea.

@@JetS_Gamer what if instead we just revert the base respawn timers back to 1 min like a few updates ago.

I'm a F4F player this update didn't not affect me at all gaijin nerd small rocket I bring a big ZUNI rocket and 3000P bomb and it cost me 23km/h

It basically only affects the Chinese. Everytime base destruction rewards are nerfed the chinese get pissed because it’s harder for them to get to top tier to sell accounts.

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FYI, "Shark arm", similar to "Evil pen", is a homophone to a mean insult that literally meant "stupid pxssy", which is by far the utmost insulting single curse word in Chinese. "Xylophone" is another homophone that literally means "mother". To curse someone with "Your mother has died" is another extremely vicious offensive in a familial culture in China. To bring the implication even further, the word "orphan" is an euphamistic suggestion that "Your whole family has died out". Therefore, if when chatting with a Chinese guy and suddenly Google Translate is returning the results "Shark arm", "Orphan" or "You're an orphan", that is probably more insulting than you anticipate. They use the homophone, so if you have no clue, you won't know what gibbrish they are talking about even if you used Google Translate, and thus won't take it too seriously, and won't retaliate back on their curse so they can unilaterally enjoy the fun of cursing. The Chinese community has some serious beef with BVV_D (Vyacheslav "BVV_d" Bulannikov), the game dev that hosted multiple preview videos for the Russians and Chinese communities, who crashed multiple planes during several live sessions. Combined his poor gaming skills and the reward cuts, he is viewed as the "malicious Cloud Player", (FYI "Cloud" was meant to be like a "Cloud server" or like "iCloud", in which suggests that someone hasn't played the actual game on their PC but played it on the internet "Cloud" chat room and commented pretentious stuffs.) And Chinese players think BVV_D is intentionally nerfing Chinese vehicles especially the modern ones (cuz that's where it's the most crucial to the self-esteem and national pride for some players.) The logic is seemingly a conspiracy but logically stands: since they can't get the technical data on most modern Chinese vehicles due to secrecy, it is unlikely for them to find the booklets like other nation players to justify their claims to buff the vehicles. And the developers, namingly BVV_D knows this, and creates hypothetical data that makes the Chinese vehicles look like garbage at least compared to the Russian counterparts. So the conclusion is that BVV_D is looking down on China, and deliberately made Chinese vehicle weak, even after the manual leaks that suggested over 600mm of penetration of DTC10-125 and VT4 with 6.7s reload. And the fact where ZTZ99A can be penetrated through the turret cheeks is "completely an illusion of BVV_D". Because some Chinese official sources claims the RHAe is larger than 1000mm on the turret, but without the technical manual they won't pass the issue even if the source is an interview with a uniformed tank commander in a demonstration trial. That's the whole story.

No it’s because of the bonus they promised being nearly nothing

everyone got screwed

Yep no more no less

no its cus the rp boosts being shit

They said they were taking away lion gains for more RP gain, and then made it so it was more Pay into getting exp meaning that research is hot useless to F2P users. I personally see this as a stab in the ass as this was all faction wide. There was an issue of Chinese players running bot accounts in order to grind the game. Its been bad and noticable since the chinese servers shut down 2 years back, they added naval when they did that and Naval had a group following, then suddenly cruiser and DD bots appeared on the non-shut down servers and just made the game pain. Worst part was as the early on premium cruisers and DDs were getting molested cause the bots would just drive at the objectives blasting away, they kept having to increase secondary and Anti-Aircraft arms against planes and small boats to fix the fact the "Players" were dieing a lot in them. That took maybe 2 weeks. After that Naval has been dead as its mostly Bots slinging hate at anything within its gun range, uncontested as anything that might kill them is basically countered in blue water with there existence. This was great by most people as they didn't see a worry of it, but then they started running program scripts and removing foliage and clouds and many other things. They removed night maps from WW2 (thank god) purely because people were running gamma tweak mods to see like you had night vision in WW2. This was causing weird issues and BR changes for a bit (Removal of night map was basically the best option). Its unfair to be blaming the "Bots" to be players instead of banning them just because the pay for premiums while the regular players get there shit stomped due to poor matchmaking rigging (Lets face it, newer players get fucked in there new BR facing higher skilled players, and Giajins answer was to tell everyone to just play better instead of having a proper matchmaking system to push people to there proper brackets. Now there are a lot of things that happen as people have readily access to the same shit that the bot accounts started using and it shows when people turn off things like hit-boxes with mods and scripts. Its not cheating directly as normal people think, but getting cross mapped threw the woods in a WW2 tank because they don't see foliage or bushes is fucking annoying as hell. Then to spice it up you get paid less for being legit and doing well or poorly? Come on that's horrible. They just want to take advantage of the golden eagles to make more pocket change instead of doing there damn jobs properly. I enjoy the game at times but I feel its very skimp in reality. This scratches the surface, but you get the idea. I blame MM and the terrible balance that shows from mass player kill/death ratio and win rait skewing results, look at France for example with upteirs in WW2 to face 1980s tanks

Same I’m so happy that they nerfed the little twats that base steal in f4C

I agree i just dont get why they nerfed small bombs.

Yeah but it makes heli pve even worse then it already is.

agreed. Most annoying thing ever was having a base shot out from under you when dropping bombs

​@limo2397 it's really a fix, the problem was that you were also awarded for individual hits. So hypothetically if it was possible, FIVE THOUSAND of 1Lb bombs would do more damage than 1x 5000lb bomb. By a lot.

Or cheating Ive had my most sus deaths to a player with a chinese name (Getting killed from the other side of the map through several trees while there arent any drones up)

@@nikolaideianov5092 Whenever I see chinese players(usually names with just numbers,or chinese phrases) I automatically assume cheating. They're in all tiers now. And the quality of games has dropped tremendously ever since they flooded the rest of the servers. Either that,or in Air matches they fly like bots do. Dont' respond,and barely do anything but be fighter bait and die. Or J out before fighters get close to them.

@@NikolaiMihailov1 and they just dont know english Which is a big problem For example there was a chinese player in one of my games that just hovered with a yah64 close to the battle field I told him in english that someone is shooting atgms at him .He didnt respond Someone else even translated it for him in chinese ,he didnt respond He then died to a SAM (His whole lineup was squad vehicles or premuims)

@@nikolaideianov5092 That's how most of them fight though. Either they're super sus,or they're outright braindead. HOnestly,any game that allows Chinese players into the global servers ends up suffering quality issues until they're kicked back out. There's a reason why they're contained.

@@NikolaiMihailov1 I honestly agree with you, there was a reason over 50k chinese accounts got banned and was nearly all of the accounts that were banned in that wave being chinese

Yeah, flanking and climbing made this game special, and WOT removed those, and it started to die, so we should probably revolt to get them back

They murdered Sands of Sinai, Maginot line, Sands of Tunisia and regular Tunisia. It just seems like that every map change they bring out just makes the maps BORDERLINE unplayable. I don't like going head into battle with 0 armour tanks, I need some kind of a overlook position to snipe from. But I cant do that anymore. People say they removed the hill from Sinai because it was a braindead part of the map. IF you won the hill you had the better team. Game should be won.

You had me until the CAS

@@pietreks3409 Why? Don't you pull up with the "combined arms" argument, since in that case we're missing alot of other things, CAS most definitely needs to be tweaked in ground battles.

​@@pietreks3409 yep This game evolved from a plane game The og name was litteraly "world of planes" (changed for legal reasons)

What part of the battle pass is the issue? Just curious, I don't buy them.

@@Armcock As I understand it, the battle pass rewards are very underwhelming in terms of vehicles. (a boring Israel SPG, some float plane that'll never get used, and then you can get one of the old coastal boats from a previous battle pass). It just feels like they could have added something unique here. I usually just like getting SL, boosters and backups but I can understand why people are not happy.

@@Armcock It's only two vehicles and a loot box, the plane is kind of 'meh', the tank is a worse VIDAR in EVERY way and will be borderline unusable because it has almost none of its real-world features.

@@PWaldo-lw2ds spgs are sad, they need to be able to use range to their benefit, not just a glass cannon

Same with missile based AA

Yeah they should prolly reverse the change in heli pve

@@yenotoo As if, the last change they ever did to Sim was nerfing the rewards due to the airfield afk exploiters. Gaijin really always seems to take the lazy route on any problem in the game and they still take forever to do something about it. They really know how to disappoint

I think a version of ground rb without planes could be possible but this will never happen to the current ground rb

or, they can raise the SP cost of aircraft. Does nobody question why you can spawn a heli w 8-16 atgm’s for less than 600SP?

ZERO reason to take CAS out of GRB, and a number of damn good reasons not to. What needs to happen is increased cost for CAS so n00b#14236 doesn't rush a light tank to a cap or gets one kill, or even gets one scouting assist, then can spawn a fully loaded CAS aircraft. That is just dumb. CAS, like it or not, needs a home...and GRB is that home. I would also be entirely ok with Lights losing their aircraft spawn bonuses completely in GRB. Arcade? Ok, whatever, don't care. Someone that plays Arcade would be a better person to ask because they have a reason to care. I don't.

In my opinion, it's the map design and the objectives that are the problem. They're too damn small, and the objectives all ammount to "sit in this circle" and many of them basically have no ground clutter to hide in besides small buildings. It's a total shooting gallery for CAS most of the time. They seem to make the least adjustments to the most important thing in any game, that being the gameplay loop. I really wish Gaijin cared more about how their game actually plays, I wouldn't call a game where the entire meta is sitting behind corners cheering third person "esports ready."

@@MrAcuta73cas has a home. Its called air RB. Quit acting like that mode doesnt have tanks too and pill boxes and armored cars and so on. THAT is where they belong. But you cant remove cas 100% because we also have spaa. So The logical thing to do is to make ground RB have cas similar to arcade. You dont choose your plane you get one at random. That is fair. Keeps cas low but still allows people to grind their planes a tad.

Agreed. If you only 1-2 spawn in ground or are in the game for less than 5 min, you should have a full nation ban for 10 min

End of the day Gaijin is to blame for that. Pretty sure most players strategy for grinding a new tech tree these days is go buy a top tier premium in that nation and just one-life it all the way until they get a top tier lineup. Miserably slow grind rate just encourages this behaviour.

easiest way to grind is to rush in with a top tier premium maybe get a kill or cap then die and leave. 2 minutes if battle and you already have like 3-5k rp

@@KSIREBELretarded solution, regular players would get affected by

grind to get 1 top tier, cant really run more than one unless they grind another one, the grind is brutal, i dont blame anyone for not havng more than 1-2

NO HMD/HMS ON CONSOLE BUT PC GOT UPDATED AND FIX WITHIN A DAY OF THE UPDATE

F US CONSOLE SIM PLAYERS 😂😂

They've been doing this for years and years. You can give them a report from the US Army that is very clear and Gaijin will just say it isn't enough. Take the M41A1. People have been giving Gaijin reports on how its turret traverse is wrong where the current max is the minimum rate. People pair that with reports giving a five seconds engagement time and Gaijin calls them conflicting and then declares the minimum rate the max and keeps it.

Also bad network. I think there is patter too of bad PL. Usually I get those for successive wins (like 3 wins ARB st top tier) then ill get quickly in a game with 30 PL. Forcing you to die

​​@@ilikesnow7074 I proved the bias with a report. They accepted a source for something about the F16 and fixed it, then later they rejected that same source for another F16 issue. Lol like WTF

also agree with this.

Whom

but it also hurts stock grinding, you cant now effectively farm bases to unlock air-to-air missiles and some bomber like mig-23bn which has no missiles and flares will suffer even more now.

​@@h0rn9t42 did they chabge the rewards for killing the tinier objectives as well or just bases? Because then you could pivot to thise targets

​@@muellermat They're not even half as reliable as bases for lions and research. This is the first change Gaijin has bothered to make in *years* to ground strike gameplay and its incredible to me that people are praising it lmfao.

What are bot hosters?

They did it to sim Now they did it to rb I wonder when they are gonna do it to ab

I can't leave a second one

Air sim but the rooms are quite small and mostly top tier

PS : I wanted to have fun with my giant derp gun Type99, well, it seems like the problem is not just the bombs but the explosives in the game. Like how can anything survive the massive HE shell, especially a fucking Marder-A1 ? The game feels broken that's terrible.

@@kazutosamurai-sama3166the other day i had a heatfs from a sta3 bounce off a tigers barrel despite hitting it head on

@@johnblackrose alt+f4 moment lol

make sure you aren't accidentally using the armour piercing bombs, they have very low explosive mass and blast radius

Why? If you want air vehicles just play air lmao, the grind is just normal if not better than ground!

@@notafrog2040 I know but I like the option because why not

@@notafrog2040 They already allow us to grind helis with ground vehicles so why not planes as well. Although I don't have much problem with this since I bring CAS, and light bombers in ground battles so I can grind both tech trees

no this is awful. it would worsen the CAS problem

​@definitelynotpc9814 because you should have learn somewhat before you hop in any plane above 4.0 and ruin my matches

Why you want toptier? Its boring as hell.

@@konna6130 cuz leo 2a7v looks sexy, i wanna chill with it in those chill custom servers where the some top tier tanks chill with others and act as guards sometimes when someone disturbs the chill in the server

@@SilentVoid_ understandable, have a great day!

Screw cas players

The thing is now that bombing bases gives less rewards its even better to play CAS in Ground RB because it gives more rewards than bases xD

Botting is the only thing they good at lmao

@@England_Is_My_City next to straight up cheating

Typical russian behaviour I must say myself

Actually rank 1 cas is alright. Because almost every tank at that level has small caliber cannons that reload or a bunch of mgs

Yeah but it isnt a 'new' vehicle so it doesnt count