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Another Shop Could not Fix This Honda Pilot & I Can't Figure it out - P2638 Torque Management 

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@EddieShaw-n2e
@EddieShaw-n2e 4 месяца назад
This is my vehicles thank you all for the great suggestions. The lights came back on after a week. As I was getting ready to take it back to Kit’s the lights went back off again. The car still drives fine. The only issue is the dash lights coming on intermittently.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@user-qd6ni7iw2w Thanks for being here Edward, Hopefully that issue becomes permanent soon so I can figure it out!!
@tallerdechepe5303
@tallerdechepe5303 4 месяца назад
Greetings friend from Venezuela... I always watch your videos to learn a little more... I like the way you explain each diagnostic step
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@tallerdechepe5303 Thank you my Friend from Venezuela, I'm glad to hear that the videos have been helpful!
@OswaldSantos-e6m
@OswaldSantos-e6m Месяц назад
I think the car is haunted.great video.Thank you.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair Месяц назад
@user-ni9sl5dv1q Lol! Thanks
@ysitrim88
@ysitrim88 4 месяца назад
Good job my friend! You can only go by what the data is telling you. Like you said needs to be more permanent. At least your not shotgunning parts at the car, the customer should be happy about that.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@ysitrim88 Yes! Thank you!
@florinstan3745
@florinstan3745 4 месяца назад
I appreciate your sincerity about this case. My opinion you have a problem in CAN communication because i've seen an bus off code on your diagnostic tool in the beginning of the diagnostic test . If you have a intermittent communication the will takes time to trigger "bus off" beacause the error count has to make 287 errors so after that the lights com on in dashboard. I believe that in time the lights will come more often until they will stay continuously and then will be more easy to pursue or put in evidence the problem.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@florinstan3745 Thank you! Yes I agree with you! we might have a communication issue but when I scoped it the waveform looked good and of course it was not acting up so the customer is gonna keep driving it until it becomes a hard fault then I'll figure it out!
@alexdragomirescu5084
@alexdragomirescu5084 4 месяца назад
Someone in the comments said to try an idle re-learn. Good advice. I would add some sticking valves (maybe adjust the them - check the valve clearance). Good luck!
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@alexdragomirescu5084 Good to know, Thank you!
@HoodsGlobal
@HoodsGlobal 20 дней назад
****DIY guy here: I would verify that parts like MAF, Coils and Spark plugs are OEM from dealership, not cheap Chinese units. Dissappearance of code by just swapping a coil says a lot about the coils.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 19 дней назад
@HoodsGlobal Great suggestion my friend!
@vincentmeadows1905
@vincentmeadows1905 4 месяца назад
Maybe an in cylinder pressure transducer test,because the pcm Is still noticing a miss every so often but not enough to trip a code ,or maybe that's just what we would like to see lol.Great job tho!love the channel.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@vincentmeadows1905 Lol!! Thank you and Great suggestion!
@nash69ish
@nash69ish 4 месяца назад
Check the bulk connector on the left side of your left foot. Water usually sep through the corner of the windshield, causing corrosion in the connectors behind that panel
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@nash69ish Oh ok! Good to know! I will check it out if the vehicle comes back! Thanks
@ericscott8695
@ericscott8695 2 месяца назад
I would look at the battery. If the battery is going bad it will cause the system to give you false codes.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 2 месяца назад
@ericscott8695 Oh good to know, Thanks for sharing!
@neverstoplearning382
@neverstoplearning382 4 месяца назад
Do a crank relearn. Sometimes Hondas go nuts and doing so fixes all misifres. God bless Deo.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@neverstoplearning382 Good Suggestion my Friend! Thanks
@quentintaylor3264
@quentintaylor3264 4 месяца назад
Sometimes after 2 or 3 drive cycles. If the codes return. Disconnect negative battery cable. Disconnect Ecm & Tcm wire connectors. Spray both connectors with only electrical cleaner. Reconnect them.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@quentintaylor3264 Thank you for your suggestion!
@nesmio7378
@nesmio7378 4 месяца назад
The TCM is communicating with the ECM through CAN about torque info. If there is a misfire present - or has been in the past then the torque signal wasn't / isn't what the TCM expects because the misfire messes it up and makes it irregular. Solve the misfire and the TCM torque signal won't have any misfires ruining it and the TCM will be happy. Don't for the love of god replace TCM or PCM for this fault please. Solve the misfire by proper diagnostics - not guessing and not hoping and replacing random parts. Don't fire the parts cannon, that is not proper diagnostics and repair etiquette.
@cdbuiles
@cdbuiles 4 месяца назад
I have the Ridgeline 2018. diagnosed by Honda with code P304. my vehicle is part of a campaign for faulty injectors. I believe this Pilot 2016 is part of the same campaign. About the VSA and Lane Assist …. check the battery voltage. Numerous Ridgeline 2nd gen owners report how an older battery gets weaker voltaje and some of the car modules starts to freak out. battery voltage lower than 12.4V may confuse the computer modules. replaced mine after 5yr and it looked its walls were a bit bulged out.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@nesmio7378 That's not what we do in our shop here we don't fire the parts cannon! we Test not Guess! so we are gonna observe it and see if this fault comes back, Thanks for the suggestion!!
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@cdbuiles Good to know, Thank you!
@wannaPreG
@wannaPreG 4 месяца назад
I think “cdbuiles“. Is new to your channel, that made him think you fire part canon. He should take time to go through your records before making these comment
@wannaPreG
@wannaPreG 4 месяца назад
I agreed with this comment, I have had tcm error code with this same dtc on Volvo cars, when the ecm has dtc, I will get that p2653 error codes but as soon as the errors are solve on the ecm side, they tcm torque message do not come back
@DuaneDonaldson
@DuaneDonaldson Месяц назад
You had a PILOT before in your videos, I took notes and you had this same code but it was not a concern in that video so no help from your older video?? Love all your stuff Bro. Cheers
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair Месяц назад
@DuaneDonaldson Thank you my Friend!
@professionalics
@professionalics 4 месяца назад
Chase the misfire to begin with, i see an aftermarket coil pack...clear all the codes, remove the battery terminals and short out any remaining power in the modules....leave it for about 10-15 mins and return everything back to normal. Check the battery voltage just incase.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@professionalics Oh Ok! Good suggestion my Friend! Thanks
@svhebert
@svhebert 4 месяца назад
Deo after the valve adjustments i would do a diesel transmission fluid flush on it 👍
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@svhebert Good suggestion my Friend! Thanks
@ekimbrough1413
@ekimbrough1413 4 месяца назад
Deo...sound like you have a wiring harness issue. Pull out a breakout box and scan for CAN resistance. If the resistance is out of spec (other than around 60 ohms) you may have an intermittent open in the wiring to a module connection.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@ekimbrough1413 Great idea! But I scoped the network and the waveform looked great, I should have filmed that part, I will make sure I film every step of the process if the car comes back!
@Look4u_carfixing
@Look4u_carfixing 4 месяца назад
It's hard to diagnosis the problem if it not permanent because everything will be fine when diagnosis.. but I think the problem could be ground wire issue or some plugs lose
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@Look4u_carfixing Good suggestion but the ground wires were fine!
@chrismoodley9618
@chrismoodley9618 4 месяца назад
The latest software is certainly required. These repairs will definitely be better with less repetition.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@chrismoodley9618 Thank you
@will2u22
@will2u22 4 месяца назад
Common hear at honda usually fuel injections needs replacing and hard reset and idle learn check fluid of transmission and level
@will2u22
@will2u22 4 месяца назад
Also the transmission takes special fluid that’s expensive most people don’t like to perform fluid service low fluid can cause range codes
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@will2u22 I heard that too thanks for sharing!
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@will2u22 Yeah!
@humbertoarellano8887
@humbertoarellano8887 Месяц назад
good video
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair Месяц назад
@humbertoarellano8887 Thank you!
@superieure1489
@superieure1489 4 месяца назад
What year is the Pilot? A 2016 does have an update for the torque management feedback signal. HONDA BULLETIN 16-008. Hopefully that helps.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@superieure1489 This is a 2016 Pilot!!
@rcf8367
@rcf8367 4 месяца назад
Probably time for trans fluid change & setting the valves lash at 100k…
@johnmac9055
@johnmac9055 4 месяца назад
I have resolved intermittent misfires in several Honda 3.5s w/ over 100k miles by performing a valve adjustment. Seems to be a fairly common issue.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@rcf8367 Good suggestion my friend, Thanks
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@johnmac9055 Oh ok! Good to know, Thank you!
@crownafro-euro524
@crownafro-euro524 4 месяца назад
The vehicle is fixed you did an ECU reset and it automatically restored itself to the factory setup
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@crownafro-euro524 Really? I not really sure if it's fixed! we will see if it comes back!!
@dehualiang2525
@dehualiang2525 4 месяца назад
This is the common problem with this year of the Pilot, there is an extended warranty for this. Most Likely you need to replace the injector and reprogram ECM.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@dehualiang2525 Oh really! Good to know!
@GabrielEbenezer-b2s
@GabrielEbenezer-b2s 4 месяца назад
I love the way you work my boss i wish to be good like you 😢❤
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@user-dw7jv9zi1d Thanks! Keep working and studying my friend you'll get there!
@jimmyj5557
@jimmyj5557 4 месяца назад
So this is not fixable?
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@jimmyj5557 it is fixable! I will figure it out when the issue becomes permanent!
@endaleberta3156
@endaleberta3156 4 месяца назад
i need obd 2 scanner bigenr help me how to used i live in ethiopia
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 3 месяца назад
@endaleberta3156 Keep watching my videos and read some books on scan tool usage! you can email me at kitsautoandtruckrepair@gmail.com and I will recommend some books for you to get!
@Toyo2024
@Toyo2024 4 месяца назад
For my knowledge this car has some electric issues and also the other mechanic the change aftermarket parts.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@hashmatrasool85 Yes!
@Toyo2024
@Toyo2024 4 месяца назад
Can you do abs project please
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@hashmatrasool85 ABS issue on this car?
@endaleberta3156
@endaleberta3156 4 месяца назад
I NEED AND I HAVE OBD2 SCANNER BIGNER PLICE GIVE ME HOW TO WORKE MY BAKE GEROUND AUTOMOTIVE MECHANICS
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@endaleberta3156 Sorry! I didn't understand your question what do you want to do with your brakes?
@edwinvargas7994
@edwinvargas7994 4 месяца назад
Find the common denominator in the wiring diagram!
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@edwinvargas7994 Good suggestion!
@crownafro-euro524
@crownafro-euro524 4 месяца назад
The Autel maxisys ultra can do a software update on that car
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@crownafro-euro524 Oh really? I didn't know that the Autel Ultra can update the software on this!
@seanveitch8444
@seanveitch8444 Месяц назад
Is that an engine that requires valve clearances to be manually set
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair Месяц назад
@seanveitch8444 I Believe So!
@edwinvargas7994
@edwinvargas7994 4 месяца назад
Looks like a ground problem 😊
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@edwinvargas7994 Good suggestion! I checked Grounds and Powers they are good!
@sahraciise7059
@sahraciise7059 4 месяца назад
Hi I ask you that where are located in Virginia
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@sahraciise7059 I'm located in Dickerson MD, you can email me at kitsautoandtruckrepair@gmail.com for shop info and to set up an appointment!
@mohabatkhanmalak1161
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 4 месяца назад
I think something to do with bad electric connections especially the ECM, TCM side. The car has done 100K miles, and gone through several seasons, so thats an area to look into.🐞
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 Good suggestion but I checked Powers and grounds off camera for the TCM & ECM and they were fine, I believe tthe ECM is failing so we will see if it comes back!!
@ganeshnarayan5505
@ganeshnarayan5505 4 месяца назад
Could be a bad alternator i have seen this on my 06 Honda Odyssey.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@ganeshnarayan5505 Good suggestion! I appreciate it
@user-dz4jb5rg6k
@user-dz4jb5rg6k 4 месяца назад
If it is me I will give the car back to the customer to test drive and see
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@user-dz4jb5rg6k Good suggestion that's what I did, when the issue becomes permanent, the customer will bring it back!
@martinarrieta248
@martinarrieta248 4 месяца назад
Grasias
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@martinarrieta248 My Pleasure my Friend!
@ivanpeterzell695
@ivanpeterzell695 4 месяца назад
The shop before you was parts canon.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@ivanpeterzell695 Yes I agree, Good to have you here in the comment section Brother!
@wzthonda8013
@wzthonda8013 4 месяца назад
DTC p0304 misfire cause DTC p2638 store in TCM replace injector set relearn idle system should take care of this problem injector still warranty by HONDA.
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@wzthonda8013 Good suggestion but wouldn't a defective injector cause a constant misfire? that cylinder barely misfired, The customer will bring the car back when it gets bad and I will make sure I check the injector!
@wzthonda8013
@wzthonda8013 4 месяца назад
@@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair depend how severe clog fuel injector. Honda Warranty Extension: 10 years or 150000 miles for 17-19 pilot due to defective parts also include update PCM update 9 speed transmission TCM. you can perform air fuel ratio test see injector pass or fail{rich} test . Fuel Injector Kit part# 06160-RLV-305
@mdashiqurrahman39
@mdashiqurrahman39 4 месяца назад
Its looks like electric faults. Honda very bad on electric fault. My sister 's hoda got all kinds off different different issues and most places she went they couldn't figured it out because they don't have honda diagram even dealership charged her 6000 to rebuild her engine and it still full of issues, i highly doubt dealership ever rebuild or change the engine but they definitely changed her $6000 and couldn't fix issues and a day later she was getting misfire. Her ac compressor had been changed 4 times and alternator had been changed 3 times but no one fixed the real issues but told it got electric fault somewhere. I think this vehicle has electric faults and yes ecu could be causing all those things
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair 4 месяца назад
@mdashiqurrahman39 Yes! the ECU could be failing on this car but I'll see if it comes back
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