ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS: Counterfeit Gifts, Curses, Masonic Vows, IHOPKC... 

We're in a small church now with a true shepherd!❤

Thank you so much Wanda, I really appreciate the way you uphold Truth! ❤🇦🇺

I really appreciate your balanced boldness, courage and anointing in sharing openly what the Body of Christ has needed for a good while now. I find it rather amazing since the Church has been hesitant to do so. I thank you and the Lord Jesus Christ Himself for His kindness and allowing the Light to shine brightly through you. The Blessing and protection of the Lord over you, your household and ministry.

I would have to say, I can not find a true church in my city. I was part of a small fellowship and the leader, pastor was manipulative and controlling, it ended up being dismantled, he was also a Christian counselor and violated many boundaries. My point. Where are the true churches? There is a compromised church on every corner. Icontinue to pray God lead me to a body.

Thank you, Wanda. My dad escaped from Freemasonry, but not until he reached 32nd degree. He then became a devout Presbyterian. My stepmother was terrified that they would find out when he died and take his body. I've prayed several times to break the oaths he took to Freemasonry and the Scottish Rite.

Deliverance starts with repentance, standing against the demonic and telling it to leave in Jesus name.

We moved to FL a little over a year ago. Since then I've come across several ministries who do deliverance. And have been doing this for many years. When in VA there wasn't anyone within an hour of me who did deliverance as a ministry. I agree, Wanda, it needs to be taught and available, to help set people free!!

Amen! Thank you, Mrs. Alger. A great teaching. Yes, the Holy Spirit will guide us. Thank you🙏🏾

This was presented with such excellence, Wanda…& 100% what I’ve been discerning as well!

Yesss inner healing and deliverance!!!! Also trauma Christian counseling is needed

Pastor Paul Slagle, celebrating 12 years today at Charity Church in Indianapolis, Indiana ❤

I so appreciate you , your teachings and your sound minded approach.

"Pummel the Devil!" By Daniel Duval. He also trains deliverance coaches. Follow his podcast for interviews with survivors of SRA and government mind control.

In freemasonry there is a code of silence. I find it interesting that IHOP KC follows a code of silence concerning their leaders.

How does church membership relate to membership vows to the Masonic Lodge? In the spirit, is it the same? Though until last year, when we finally, obeyed Holy Spirit and left the organized church, I have attended church faithfully. But, I never felt comfortable to “join” any church by signing membership documents.

Annamarie Strawhand (Faith Land Ministries) has some great information about land assignment prayers/ blessing on the land!!!

Gifts are given Fruit is Grown! It is dangerous to be overly impressed with spiritual gifts and ignore character and the Fruit of the Spirit. ♥️🙏🏽🙏🏽♥️

Thank you so much for your boldness of exposing these things!! You are empowering the people who stand with God but don’t have the avenue to get things out! I bless you in all you do!! You are so humble and honoring! Keep doing what you’re doing! You are strengthening all of us!!❤

Thank you for giving us (me) courage to confront this topic which has made me very afraid before ! It is sooo important! We all have “skeletons” in our closets when we look at our blood lines. I have recently started digging into this and began repenting and praying for my family (many of which are not believers.). I will definitely check out your resources!

Mike Bickle has never once mentioned that Trueman was a FA and IHOPKC is on FA land😔 I used to follow Mike Bickle because I enjoyed his teaching and the worship in their Sunday services. When I initially heard about the allegations against MB I was dismayed and disbelieved them, l mean, I’ve been following MB for about 5 years and have a few of his books. He just seems like a humble person. Mike has a series of on IHOPKC here on RU-vid titled Prophetic History of IHOPKC. There are 13 videos in the series and I watched them all! The first video is - Session 1: Intro to Bob Jones, Paul Cain, and End-Time Revival. I really enjoyed this video where Mike lays out how provided the Truman property, yet, even though a had little niggles about Bob Jones, IHOPKC 24hr worship, and even sometimes Mike himself, I didn’t understand what the Holy Spirit was trying to tell me. I also used to follow Rick Joyner until I found out that he is a Knight of Malta. I think that the aforementioned ppl have modelled how “prophecy” is supposed to be and that we don’t know how God wants to work prophetically through us individually as members of Christ’s Body. They have been the forerunners of how the Holy Spirit moves and I have been following (unknowingly) blindly along. God has been trying to point out spiritual discernment stuff but, I just did not understand. Even now a little piece of me thinks that this is just the enemy attacking Mike because of the 21 day Fast he had for Israel in 2023 (which I participated in)😬 Rick Joyner’s books (of which I have a good few!) are forever tainted to me, (which spirit is behind his revelations?) and I won’t be reading them again. I even encouraged my sister to buy some of his books and bought a few to give away!🙁 Thank you, Wanda, for this video. It confirms a lot of what God was telling me (so, yes, I am hearing God).❤‍🔥🇬🇧 Below is the portion of Scripture that I’ve been meditating on for 2024. Luke 12:2-3 AMPC Nothing is [so closely] covered up that it will not be revealed, or hidden that it will not be known. Whatever you have spoken in the darkness shall be heard and listened to in the light, and what you have whispered in [people’s] ears and behind closed doors will be proclaimed upon the housetops.

Miss Wanda, I know we dread seeing that it’s a long video, but when it’s over, there’s nothing we would have wanted to miss. ❤ I’m so glad you spoke on Freemasonry. My father got far in it and just got his 50 yr. 🙏🏼for me, I’m living with him and caregiving his wife who is bedridden from Alzheimer’s. I know he has symbolic stuff here, his Bible. If he was the one with dementia, I could cleanse the house 🏡. I’ll be checking your materials tomorrow. Thank you, 😊. Your gifts shine. You spur us on to good works 🤗.

We have all so been lacking in discernment

I'm in a real small church and our pastor is wonderful and we've got a small group and we'd love each other. And it's all about the lord jesus and fellowshipping and as very special

Thank you very much, Wanda, for all you covered and explained on this video! This was most helpful to me as a new-comer to the prophetic as well as charismatic teaching. I appreciate the balance you present and that my spirit bears witness to. Blessings!

I think pastors must really use discernment when it comes to letting people who call themselves prophets come to the pulpit, it has become a popular gift a profitable gift and therefore many prophlieing going on. Yes there are true prophets often they are not popular because often they are used to speak correction , to watch to warn, a true prophet is not concerned with being popular, they have a word heavy on their heart to speak not for self gain but for the benefit of others.Wanda good teaching today

A lot of people first choose location where they are going to live , then pick a house lastly church. When it should be choose church first, everything else falls into place 🔥🙌

I thank God for this amazing Pastor, Mark Cowart, Church for all Nations, Colorado Springs, CO! ❤🙏 Thank you for your ministry, Wanda...this teaching is very helpful and confirming. I see the number of your followers has increased a lot in recent years. This is good news...as it means many are hearing the good teaching you are bringing to the body of Christ. Thanks be to God! 🙏❤

Just an FYI For many years there as been a very little publicized inner healing and deliverance MINISTRY at IHOPKC. It’s called Prisoners of Hope. Iv been to several of the intensives. I found freedom there. They also have follow up groups after the the intensive that teach how to maintain freedom. They are not generally publicized at Forerunner church. As far as I can tell they do not seem to carry the same church abuse mindset of some in the IHOP community.

I have a question, Wanda, where does it say in the Bible that Lucifer was a seraph, I can’t find it? Do you have any additional information. Thank you so much. I listen to you regularly. I am so blessed by your messages. Also purchased a couple of your books.

My dad was a Shriner but also a Christian. He did have a battle with depression. He was very moody and also very firm as far as discipline was concerned . I was some what afraid of him but I loved him. He provided for his family but he was hard to please. I married a man with many of the same traits and was a mason at one time. I have had a hard life and did not feel understood or loved unconditionally. Your video explained a lot and helped me.

I think that most of us have become luke warm and need to be on their face before God and pray that He show them truth and nothing but the truth. I feel that most who call themselves Christian don't even know the Word and what it truly says. Most are falling for churchy ways and not what the true Word of God says. We need to be following God's Word and not what someone is teaching. It says to test what they are teaching to the Word and make sure it is truth.

Thank you Wanda!!! I literally saw this ceremony in play the last time I visited Morning Star while on a business contact with others there. I was very unsettled about what I saw and my friend that was with me saw it as well. First thing that hit me was a word, “blasphemy”!! I wanted to yell that out so bad. My friend and I prayed that night and next morning. I was grieved!! To much under the carpet. Fear of God has to come forth!!

@Isaiah Saldivar and Pagani preach deliverance!!!

Wanda, I agree with you 100%!! The church has been infiltrated with mixture…wolves in sheep’s clothing! Ezekiel chapter 8!

Sis Wanda...as youre aware...The ENTIRE church world ( yours,mine, everybody's) is so Americanized, and so far removed from the power, love, worship, truth of the early Church that the sad truth is virtually every Church has become for years, a mere facsimile of the presence of God. The entire thing is going to brought down by Gods discipline. Thankfully. The Angel of light, the Prince of worship has been running things for a long time ..especially in the churches. No wonder there is no power, no life. But, there are many examples of a nice sevice, and social activities....a pretentious "feel good" atmosphere for years. It all stinks in the nostrils of God.

I know a man who once gave me a book on free masonry. He was wholly against it and everything they do. Fast forward 10 years and he joins the free masons! I asked him about that and he quipped "we get together, talk and current events and worship God." I thought to myself, "and you cant do those things without being a mason? Riiiiiight......

Amazing, Wanda Elger. This is so important. I want to learn more. The devil will be defeated when people learn this!

With 24 seven prayer going on for years, at IHOP KC, where was the discernment? Hard to believe that spending that time saturated in God’s presence you don’t “see things“.

Thank you so much. Priceless teaching and principles for this season!

Repentance is a daily event ...

I grew up in a small town in western Pennsylvania. I took tap and ballet lessons as a little girl up to when I was 20 years old. The yearly recital was held in a Masonic Temple. I have videos of those recitals which I will be throwing away. If I hadn't seen this video, I never would have known this. Thank you Wanda.

This was very enlightening in that it supplied many puzzle pieces to my understanding. I think you 'solved the equation' - as we'd say in math class...with respect to the IHOP problem. That you learned the land was Truman's and he was a grand [whatever] mason, that property was likely a seat of power for the region in the Mason organization (religion)...is there a portal to the second heaven there?? Was there any blood shed on the premises? If so, the land IS cursed. WHO was "the prophet" that foretold Mike he would receive the property? What sort of Prophet was it?? Investigation of Mike's background may show that he was MK Ultra'd and that this was a false para-church organization from the start. In the interview with Blaise, the way he described how he was brow beaten by the ministry people above him in the meeting he was ordered to attend...THAT WAS a technique used by 'cults' to keep their underlings in line. Where did that come from? The technique was utilized by MK Utra practitioners - this must have been brought in early on. This totally explains the refusal of Mike to apologize. Those of us who hear of his behavior are perplexed that 'such a wonderful Christian titan in the faith' is acting so out of character. MK Ultra techniques are an exact science, not happenstance. We as Christians always want to think the best of others...that's why these sorts of things can go so far in churches. So, thanks, it answers everything for me. A topic for study would be the origin and spread of the 'Shepherding movement' that became popular for a time after the 'Jesus' movement. Think MK Ultra infiltration. Derek Prince apologized in one of his videos for having supported that back in the 80s. I was in a church that instituted it...total mind control technique (when Blaise spoke of his 'meeting' it brought back vivid memories to me. As well, if Truman was a 33 d mason and so high in the leadership that he was placed in the seat of POTUS...what does that make dropping 2 atomic bombs? Blood sacrifices? He also signed into law what would later be facilitate the CIA...all their shenanigans we're learning of now. PS. Harry S. Truman has NO middle name, it's just an S.

I definitely could use your help. I love listening to you. And i'm learning a lot from you and god bless you

Thanks for this Wanda. QUESTION: Is Rotary a form of Freemasonry?

It’s not being preached!!!! In US churches nobody preaches deliverance or Hell!

Have been following about the enemies attack on IHOP. The insight ( discernment) the Lord God has given you . I am grateful for clarification. What you spoke of today on inner healing & deliverance was confirmation of what we are doing in our church..we are doing a forty day worship ,prayer & fasting , proclaiming His Word & stomping out the enemy. In the name of Jesus 🙌🙏🏻

Is there a resource map that shows the land that has been purchased by the ML?

QUESTION ~ What about a kundalini spirit? We were at church and a lady manifested (seemed demonic…) her voice got deep and aggressive and she yelled out the name “Trevor” and she had a word for him in the church and then she was twitching and her head kept shrinking down in between her shoulder blades. My son had an anxiety attack it scared him so bad. How is this godly? Where in the Bible does it talk about “godly” pastors, preachers, apostles, prophets, etc. act like this?

You can prophesy, cast out demons in Your name heal the sick etc and not even know God. Matthew 7:22 So many extremes in deliverance ministry. I'm at a church that believes we all need deliverance for the rest of our lives. I don't believe that bears out scripturally. A person may need deliverance but to suggest they'll always need deliverance is a terrible thought. I appreciate this video Wanda. It's provoked me to prayer and the seeking of Father's revelation in any and all these areas. Thank you

I always look forward to listening to you commentaries, Wanda. Occasionally I hear something I disagree with. When you said you weren’t aware of any scriptures that spoke of counterfeit gifts. I immediately thought of 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2, which mentions “power, signs, and lying wonders” done by the anti-Christ through the power of Satan. If that is possible, why can’t Satan empower others to perform miracles in order to deceive? There may be a slight distinction, but this fits my definition of counterfeit.

Hi Wanda, I know I've mentioned this in a comment after one of your other videos. But seeing as you mention Rick Joyner in this one, I'd like to mention that recently I watched a video in which Rick Joyner said it's ok to take the Mark of the Beast, saying it's part of an economic system. I'm concerned because many 'baby' Christians and less mature ones might have heard this, and could follow it. We know that if they do, it will mean the end of any possibility of their salvation. Also, seeing your mentioning his allegiance to The Knights Of Malta, The Order of St. John, I'm wondering if by doing this he might have opened himself up to spiritual deception, without realising it, & if this might have something to do with why he said that about the Mark of the Beast. Doesn't seem the kind of thing a mature Christian and prophet would say.

Wanda, great discussion and a lot of for thought. The devil is subtle. Jesus said (in Matt.24) one of the signs of the end times will be deception. God is gracious and will us people inspite of their weaknesses. He's not excusing sinful behavior, but will give gifts. Look how God blessed King David. And look how he blew it big time. Much prayer and wisdom from God is needed.

One question Wanda. (And thank you for the wisdom you’ve been sharing in this season!) I recently saw a talk on YT at Greg Hood’s church. It was a Christian man who worked for the C_A that brought intercession & cleansing over the stargate program. Dr Crum, I believe. They had a team of prophets & prophetic intercessors called Project MoningStar and Paul Cain was listed as a part of this group. I’ll look for the video & post it in the comments for you.

Great answers on some questions in my mind…thank you.. hallelujah.

At Christ for the Nation's we went to see Emma Stark, a sister is studying deliverance under her. She is from Scotland.

There’s a huge amount of black pastors/leaders who are part of fraternities and sororities called the “divine 9” which have clear roots in Freemasonry and they’re open about it too. Vows and oaths are made in ritualistic fashion as well yet they continue to pastor. 🤦🏽‍♀️

What kind of gluten free flour ? Can you tell us the brand . I am waiting on the Lird for financial prosperity and would like to know flour you like so I don't have to test out a bunch of them I don't understand why your not telling us some you are telling us who made it but does that company make more than one kind . I don't understand why people especially followers of Jesus don't help their Brothers and Sisters

What value do you place on praying in tongues? Scripture says that it builds/strengthens your inner man. The more time I pray in tongues, the less often I feel down it seems, because the demonic can't handle listening to it. Few ministries emphasize it as a key form of intercession. Kevin Zadai got me into praying in tongues more.

I don't if you will see this, this far after the video, but here goes. Thank you for this, I am going to go look at some of your other teaching on Masons. I learned, probably in the last year or 2, that my family has a history in this. My dad joined, but only to the level he had to, 'to get the Masonic ring that his Grandfather had." My mom has that ring and said she was leaving it to my son, and I said, "oh no you are not giving that to him." Anyway, I am going to look at your website and try to learn more and see if any 'ties' need to be broken for my household/family.

Great teaching Wanda. May God richly bless you for your obedience. It has helped me to start praying for my self against any occultism things that have any stronghold in my life from my sister being involved in many things of darkness . Praise God though that at 91 years of age thru my taking care of her in her last 3 years , she learned the truth and totally accepted the Lord and prayed the sinners prayer with me and the Lord's Prayer before she died in her sleep sometime that nite . I just don't want anything from her previous life to be able to affect me

Just wanted to say my comments have come from a five year time that God taught me to help through having the Father's heart for a person..without it we are in legalism. God doesn't relate to us through legalism. Jesus is a relationship. Grace is bigger than our failures and our weakness. God doesn't need or want to crush his created identity in a person to get repentance. He wants to destroy the enemy strongmen to get freedom so they can lead with their spirit and not the soul or flesh. The love of God displayed from the Holy Spirit is when we can repent with tears and feel Holyness. Because He loves us where we are,when we are unworthy. This is God's grace and we must follow his heart in applying principles of freedom. Without love they are just a list.

Wouldn’t it be logical for Lucifer to start perverting and attacking worship first because that’s the area he knows the most and best about and knows how important it is for us to come through it into God’s presence! We need discernment so bad. Please Lord teach us discernment

Wow! Such a great teaching. This is so needed in this time of confusion and deception. I appreciate your insight. This verse came to mind; I will sing praise to Your name forever, that I may daily perform my vows Ps 61:8 🎶 🎵 ⏹️ 🪕 🎼

I think I’m dealing with familiar spirits after what you just said about how it effects the conscience and mind.

I feel the Lord so strongly as I am listening to this, Wanda! Powerful Truth!!

Amen redeem the land

That explains the mute deaf and dumb spirit on people. Praying about that root as a cause.

Looking for "that: church in GR. MI, anyone know of one?

Yes…disclaimer on Freemasonry was on for entire message👵

Now after hearing the news of IHOP, I was so sad never been there but loved teachings,then 2 days ago holyspirit in prayer started revealing to me Mason lodges??I did my home work for the last 24 hours and I feel like holyspirit opened my eyes and unveiled the whole picture of masonic cult going all the way back to the beginning in the bible,tracing bloodlines ,I was suprised what I found,Jesus is unveiling the word of God its all there,then the land IHOP is on,wow so much,we have a vacation home that masons booked for a meeting,they left alot of stuff about there meeting here in Texas and it said we had the largest masons temple that started my journey, they left plane tickets that said Ireland, thats where my family tree is from so im digging today to see if there is a link and God trying to break any curses on my family,,its hard having your eyes open but Jesus blood will cover and protect me,,I will check out your site and study more thank u

Great job Wanda. Thank you for all your doing

They were given the land but I don't think it has been developed yet.

This is so good Wanda and insightful!!!

Yessss the lord showed me FM!! After a fast

Wanda, I have followed you for 3-4 years, came to here you speak when you were in Seattle. My question? My son in law, with a Chinese man, have ? Created a following for ? 16-17 years. I believe it to be a cult, VERY controlling, somewhat secretive, very judgemental, if not in full agreement with their dogma, particularly FULL honor given to this Chinese individual… without too much detail? Is MASSIVE, closely reminds me of the SHEPHERDINGING movement? Derek Prince, and others? the group pretense”If unwilling to follow/ be disciples by “a man”, you have rejected God?? Is so OFF base, as Jesus was fully GOD and fully man, so they are dismissing/ bypassing the Holy Spirit, and demanding they/the leader are needed to understand/follow God, I.e- the veil was torn from top to bottom at the crucifixion. Your thoughts? This has totally devastated me, my wife, my son in laws parents…. now a total of 9 grandchildren have been indoctrinate. My son in law graduated from Criswell College, Dallas, TX?? My sense is this came from a trait learned from childhood of co-dependency, CONTROL? your thoughts?

Johnny Enlow talked about this near the end of the interview MK ultra. Elijah streams

I’ve heard Mike Bickle say many times “ God shock me now don’t shock me later.” It’s amazing but what’s happening at IHOPKC is the answer to that prayer and it must be Gods mercy. I can’t imagine the pain king David endured because he had Uriah murdered. Our God is a consuming fire. It’s amazing how somebody can pray God shock me now don’t shock me later,” and be so blind to their sin. Our hearts are so deceitful!

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What are your thoughts on college Sororities and fraternities?

Todd and Jan Mozingo, Revive Church, Stuart Florida...Thank you, thank you, thank you for your love and leadership, truly caring about the flock!

What about daughters of the revolution. DAR

Yeah to my pastor!!!! Godly woman

Wanda, you speak of a Free Mason spirit. What exactly is that? How does it manifest in the family of a Free Mason. My Father was a 32 Degree Mason and member of the Sottish Rite .I always felt he did not understand the true significance of that organization. I have rebuked Free Masonry's involvement over my life and the live of my descendants but, sadly, I have not done my homework as to the depth of evil in this movement. I will consult your past teaching. Thank you for your integrity and balanced approach to every issue, particularly the IHOP affair. .

Yes that's a major problem. One example Solemon. Loaded down with spiritual and material gifts and almost immediately went off the deep end. Many prophetic leaders too busy giving "words" without much examining themselves. Not much self examination on clues in their own issues. Because their walking in the "gifts". Same with worship leaders. Your better off taking your crushings so your character can handle your call and you'll fulfill what you were called to. If you don't you will fall and maybe head into Glory before you were supposed too.

Wait, a serpent can be good? I just love you, Mrs. Wanda. I love your heart. Thank you for teaching throughout the years. *hugs*

My husband is prophetic and can also see into the spiritual realm. We have not found a church where he is accepted. Lots of competition, etc.

"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, "II Thess 2:9 Signs and lying wonders would be counterfeit...meaning counterfeiting the gifts of God, because they are the gifts of Satan rather than God.I found on Rick Joyner's web site some years ago that he said the Knights of Malta Order of St John were a higher order (elite group) of Christians than just ordinary Christians like you and me.

Pastors Dan and Dianne Coflin, River of Life Church, Lutz, FL True, Word of Faith Shepherds

Dave and Cheryl Bryan videos are excellent on teaching about strongholds and deliverance. Also Ken Fish of Orbis Ministries. They have a free prayer ministry that I utilized once via Zoom.

One thing Paul Cain said that really gives me pause is “The church without mixture will receive the power without measure.” I have believed this word and made it the basis of many prayers for the church. Lately I have struggled in praying “ God let your church be without mixture “because Paul Cain said it. But I still believe the prophetic wisdom was true ?! Lately I’ve gone to pray that prayer and it has been difficult.

NORTH CAROLINA HERE, we have a great young pastor who has passion to see the lost come to Jesus and for his flocks personal growth.

I have never watched any of your teaching but today I am highly impressed. I have not felt free for about 4 years and I don't know what the problem is. Prayers deeply appreciated ♥️🙏🏻 thank you for teaching on these important topics. The Church absolutely needs to increase in discernment

My Dad was involved with the Moose Club. at first glance the requirements sound familiar with Masonic vows.

If someone gifts you a gun and you CHOOSE to use it to kill--the gift has been used wrongly!! A compromised heart cannot but compromise the gift--God's gift is pure, people are not!!

I am sooooo glad you have brought up intentional psychological splitting, brainwashing - there are soooooo few Christians trained to help survivors of such trauma. Yes, it requires A LOT of trust, patience, integrity, love and enduring relationship building in addition to a clear biblical understanding of deliverance.

This video of Wanda is very helpful to keep understanding the moral and spiritual crisis in the Church. I find interesting that Wanda discusses Vows in secret societies . I just finished watching the HBO series The Vow, the Keith Raniere story and the Nxivm sex cult. Raniere crafted a Vow for his sex slaves, too. The series has foul language so be careful but besides it , this story has been educational to me. All these cults in some grade operate in manipulation, false promises, control , secretivity , isolation , fear etc. Athough The series shows how this cults operate and how easy is to fall for them and be manipulated , your videos Wanda has been so helpful to see this through the lens of God's wisdom. Thanks

Pastor Darren, The Refuge Church in Vienna, WV is a true Shepard… and he is set on not worrying on the building of numbers but building up leaders of all the 5 fold ministries -

Pastor Brian Gibbs, Victory a Church of His Presence, Sarasota, FL is a true Man of God 📖🙏❣️

Wow, finally, someone with integrity that I feel I can trust that speaks on deliverance. I will be looking for your resources. I have a profound testimony on the supernatural and deliverance that was very mishandled by the church. This encounter occurred on October 31 1998 at a womens conference in a church. I have probably needed more healing from the fall out than the actual deliverance itself.

IHOPKC is a religious order. You have to sign yourself over to it when you are hired to work there.