Froch is a pr*ck and those types are stupid AND delusional. But I can't work out who's in the green speech bubbles. Is Froch really asking for a big slap??
No. Froch knows the truth about Anthony Joshua. AJ's fake personality, duck moves, PR managed image, criminal life before boxing etc. Froch helped AJ's career by letting him fight on his undercards but AJ turned on Froch when he retired
Carl definitely had this coming. He's like the toxic friend that disparages and demeans you under the guise of 'honest constructive criticism.' What fighter wouldn't be offended being told they'd be knocked out in a round? Or being told that they're fragile around the whiskers or that they're mentally weak? these are all titles of videos Carl has posted about AJ. To pretend as though you wouldn't be slightly offended in the same situation is just plain disingenuous. If anything AJ has been way too patient lol. But of course Carl is going to gaslight everyone into thinking AJ is behaving irrational.
Froch helped Anthony Joshua's career by letting him fight on his undercards. Anthony Joshua then tried to get Carl Froch sacked from Sky sports. Femi is such a loyal friend😂
Frochs constructive criticism over the years has been to claim; Joshua has no chin, has no legacy, is mentally weak, would get Knocked out by Wilder in 1 round, (less rounds than Molina) doesn’t belong on a British Pound for pound list, also claimed he must retire if he lost he latest fights. He’s like that fake friend that constantly has something negative to say about you and then claims he’s only trying to “help”.
Froch is talking facts. Anthony Joshua is chinny. His trainer said, AJ is "mentally weak". Joshua ducked Wilder Undisputed for 50 million to fight Povetkin for less than 15 million
Hatman you find Carl Froch amusing and I find him irritating. His troll and hatred towards AJ over the Years is legendary. Froch knows how to ditch it, but can hardly take it back. Always on the edge whenever someone gives it back to him.
Aj is very humble... Genuinely.. Humility isn't cowardice it isn't someone inability to stand up for himself. Humanity is when someone confronts his challenges and respond to events or incidents at the right time. There's a time for everything, a time to be quiet and a time to speak up and humility helps you identify the right time to act.. It is a character that very few people possess and AJ is one of them
@@Desmondbrowne666 he's not. He does have moments of petulance but Froch has been slating him for years and when Joshua saw him surprisingly somewhere he went over to him with a smile and said "Oi trouble!" and shook his hand like they were old mates. But Froch won't stop. He's publicly taking the piss out of a man that could take his head off. And probably should.
Being humble doesn't mean you can't bite back when provocation becomes too much. Humility doesn't mean you can't have an ego. When you're humble and have an ego it just comes with respect.
Anthony Joshua was crying that Fury called him a "sausage". Joshua has dissed and verbally abused Fury and Wilder on multiple occasions. He was insulting Fury yesterday
In terms of AJ being humble, humans are complex, you have your moments when you are humble and other times you can be egotistical, this is the human condition, you don't wake up feeling the exact same each they
No. Joshua has carefully created a fake humble personality with the help of his PR team. He spends millions on his PR to keep that image and con the public
Being humble doesn’t mean you should let people walk all over you, If I made a RU-vid channel and start slagging off Hartman channel saying he rubbish and all sort , I think he would take some sort actions about it .
Just because AJ has a mean streak doesn't mean he can't feel a genuine responsibility to be a role model. People can be different things at once. To dismiss his desire to be polite and civilised as an "act" is a bit harsh in my opinion. Having said that, I'm glad we're seeing a lot more of his meaner side these days.
@@StevenO4342 Yes, Anthony Joshua was given the opportunity to fight a journeyman in front of 80,000 fans in Wembley. Froch was the biggest PPV star in the UK at that time and AJ had just turned pro
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma Looks like he succeeded. Not seen Froch on Sky Sports doing commentary in a while. Perhaps the reason he started up a RU-vid channel to make some money from talking about Anthony Joshua every week.
Leaking whattsapp messages is proper playground tactics. What an absolute muppet, maybe Aj should mention the Andre Ward fight where the snake got bounced all over the ring.
For years he was saying Fury would obviously beat Joshua. I wasn't saying that even as a Fury fan. It's obvious Fury is avoiding him and there's only 1 reason a money hungry Fury would be avoiding the biggest money fight in the division, and indeed the whole sport. And to prove this, Fury sends Joshua a fight deal at his lowest point, and puts a deadline on it so he can manipulate his brain dead fans into believing it was Joshua ducking him. Ridiculous.
So Froch constantly chasing clout using AJ's name all these years wasn't Ill behaviour? He tears down these young fighters to make himself feel and look good. He was a great fighter and boxer in his era. Watching these new boxers, encourage them. Don't be ripping them apart as if you were perfect in your time. He cries wolf because AJ handed him a little of what he has given AJ all these years. If you want to analyse a situation, do so from both views and perspectives. I have heard you call out some people in your comment section fools and idiots and lash out because they were playing fanboys and attacking you for being neutral. How much more AJ being probbed by a guy who is supposed to be encouraging him while enjoying his retirement for years? I am not AJ'S FANBOY. I am a boxing fan. AJ is human. No one likes being probbed needless consistently and for years. He has AJ's contact. Why couldn't he reach him personally and tell him his opinion about his career and what he should improve? Froch has built his post boxing presence using AJ'S name and ripping apart other fighters. If you can't take someone probing you, is AJ not human? Mehn, I am a Doctor. I don't tear down new doctors and keep criticising them. How about encourage them? When I retire, I want to sit back and see upcoming doctors do better than myself and reach them to encourage them and not make myself relevant by tearing them down. This is my opinion on this issue.
Froch helped Anthony Joshua when AJ was an unknown novice. AJ was fighting journeymen on Carl Froch Undercards. A few years later, Anthony Joshua tried to get Carl Froch sacked from SkySports.
I suppose, you don't know a lot about Anthony Joshua's true personality, his views and background. The man is a phoney, narcissistic bully hiding behind his fake humble mask
Froch had no defense. He looked awful vs Dirrel and Josh was concussed when he faced Ruiz. Stay humble is what one strives for, it doesn't mean it's who we are at all times.
Froch is a 🤡 who leaks personal messages, I don’t know why he talks about legacy aswell when he ducked lots of fighters. GGG,Stevenson,James degale. Ward rematch.
I personally prefer this version of AJ more than the old media friendly ‘stay humble’ AJ. You can tell AJ is tried of putting on the act anyway. Fighters are not humble people especially heavyweights it’s all cap!
Fury is a very humble guy in real life. He was filmed by BBC sitting in the driver's seat off an old minivan. He was a multimillionaire PPV fighter at that time but looked no different than a builder or a delivery person. Fury trash talks to sell his fights like Ali, Mike Tyson etc
Hateman bro is there some more Fury bashing on the horizon.Froch is always going in hard on AJ can’t blame AJ for seeing him as a prick I like Froch myself but these big egos are bound to clash
Froch goes in hard on Fury, too. I respect Froch and Simon Jordan for their occasional criticism of Anthony Joshua. Everyone else is scared to say anything negative about AJ. There was a youtube video of Shane McGuigan predicting that DDD would KO Anthony Joshua. That video seems to have disappeared. Toe2Toe podcast episode in which AJ talked about his plan to avoid Wilder was also deleted
When Hatman laughs ......I'm in stitches ... flippin hilarious! Froch is jealous in my opinion and he hasn't WILL NEVER reach AJ's level and star status! let it go and remember AJ has brought excitement back into heavyweight boxing after the previous decade of the most boring era of the weight's division ever seen! NO ONE CAN DOUBT USYK AND AJ guts and willingness to fight the best with or without Saudi's excellencies input!
@@user-gx1lc4qn5stotally wrong again. Froch owns five homes in the UK and two in Spain plus 4 limited companies and RU-vid. And millions. He ain't jealous of nobody and thats a fact.
@peternagy-im4be He really is jealous and bitter of Other uk fighter's . He's bad mouthed calzaghe, khan, Fury and AJ. Mocks Aj for losing to Ususyk who is the best of his generation but forget he got schooled by Andre Ward and Froch's wealth is nowhere near AJs either.
I'm glad that Anthony Joshua is returning to the nastier, edgier persona he had before becoming champion. Emmanuel Steward said he wanted Lennox Lewis to always be on edge and to not be the nice guy, and I feel this would work best for AJ too.
I don’t get why man was counting out £50’s on his bed as if Froch couldn’t just nip to the bank and do the same lol, yes AJ is far wealthier but Carl is worth around 20 mill himself, two rich mandems arguing over whos richer is some baby ting behaviour lol
I've noticed that spiteful mood, too. AJ's spiteful mood is pretty interesting to me. I need fighters to be like that after damaging losses. That would make things more interesting. I want to see fighters get on an avenger's 'get-it-back' mission when they suffer an embarrassing loss.
Froch first WhatsApp message read Aug 6 2023… was the smartphones who don’t usually have the wrong dates since there connected to the net just off, or did Froch save it for a year to get maximum impact for his channel with the Wembley fight coming up.
Could have been screen shot from last year… you need to update your iOS or android software to keep using WhatsApp so date would be updated right ? It’s not like he can switch it off for a year and then use WhatsApp without the net or updates
Only real top fighter in the HW division is Usyk. Fury, AJ, Wilder are all fake as hell. Oh Parker is real, too, also Zhang, no BS there. And Dubois is just a brick.
Carl acting like he doesn't know why AJ called him a prick, then shows private messages and, says AJ threatened him after saying he would beat up AJ. Clearly AJ's threats were not real, otherwise he wouldn't be sending behind the scene messages. Carl doing a karen abit. Why on earth do you need to know why another man doesn't like you? If they haven't told you. You have to figure it out. SMH.
Cant disagree with anything youve said here hatman apart , from probably not giving the right context on froch about AJ its not necessarily what hes saying it, theres been times hes been flagrantly disrespectful 😂 i doubt it would happen but if AJ did ever slap him he 100% deserves it
Froch is just being jealous of AJ success in life, and there is nothing he can do about. Is Froch saying he never suffered and defeat through our his boxing carrier. He opened a whatsapp channel for the of one man. What a misery man
I see a couple of weirdos in the comments making out that AJ is a Bottler because Froch said the big Who you .... . AJ has guys coming at him all the time. Flashing the cash at Froch is different from doing that to a citizen. I think Froch cried too hard, especially as he has been doing the antagonising
Froch has never pretended to be humble, and he has a great sense of humour. Did you know that he fought at Wembley in front of 80k fans? Froch will be a fan favourite for ever, not so sure about AJ, I think he'll leave England when his career is done and move somewhere hot, a bit like Lenox but with less charisma.
Carl froch showing himself to be like every other "i just tell it how it is" content creator that he doesn't like it when what he's been sending out gets put back on him, absolute warrior of a fighter in his day but what a helmet
I agree with some of what Froch said, the humble guy routine is BS, but Froch is the one that tried to turn it personal and nasty first saying "do something about it" then he puts a video out trying to play victim, both embarrassing in my opinion
I used to like Froch sometimes he just talks out of his ass. I mean its only 12 months ago that Froch was saying Wilder would iron AJ out and look how that aged. Froch knows sweet FA about boxing, hence he needed a nose job. The man even tried to call McCracken a great trainer, the same man that could never teach Froch a lick of defence.
12 months ago, Wilder was considered a top 5 fighter. He had KOed Helenius in 1 round in his last fight. Joshua then went 7 rounds with older Helenius who was coming off 1 week notice and got his nose and both eyes busted
I personally think AJs in a more spiteful mood because his promoter is towing the Saudi line and wont speak against Fury or his rivals anymore. So Joshua is getting annoyed and has found his voice a bit more.
AJ did openly say " i'm here for the money " because too many were going against him so he decided " screw u " and to be fair its ok because hes putting his own life & self at risk for entertainment of fans ..So if course " this is biz ,give me my dough"..😂😆 Froch has been on his case for ages so i'm suprused its only just now Aj responds hard..AJ wasnt even being about the dough there ,he was really highlighting through that pic sent the jealousy behind Frochs antics
you know what, i dont feel like its actually an act with aj quite in that way, in the sort of lets play this for the fans thing. im not saying hes actually humble, far from it. but i think its more he thinks its the right way to conduct himself in a sort of, i dunno, honourable way? for want of a better term. ike you might not swear in church or in front of your gran, but that doesnt mean you dont swear, its just you believe in the etiquette. you treat a woman on a first date like a lady even tho in your mind youre looking at her like a slut, and maybe with your m8 the next day you might talk about her like that, but on the date you dont treat her like that youre a gentleman, and that might be more than just self serving you might believe in being like that, a of code of conduct. its a front but it comes from a more genuine place. i just get that kind of vibe from aj, and sometimes i respect it, sometimes it just feels too pretentious and im rolling my eyes. but i think in his mind he believes hes being the bigger man, hes showing self control, restraint, respect. but for sure in his mind hes the same dog we all are.
Carl Froch puts on this persona of being a tough guy and tries to act like a big man in front of his viewers, but we all know that AJ would take his head off. You may be tough on RU-vid/WhatsApp Froch, but if you bumped into AJ on the street you wouldn’t be so brave, and you know it!
Agreed. It really is stupid. Especially seeing as the small amount he could have with him to count is just a fraction of what he has and not representative at all. It's pointless, crass posturing. A mark of insecurity.
If you've noticed the entire Matchroom club has been putting on this mean tough act. Eddie Hearn and Frank Smith are always angry and beefing someone these days. Aj is acting up now. Whyte told everyone AJ was fake a long time ago. Brands make them all act that way
I’d imagine AJ has an opinion of Froch that a lot of people agree with also. I like both but it’s been clear for a while that Froch has had an issue with AJ that goes beyond just giving an opinion. He’s going the right way for a slap and no doubt he’ll post all over his social media playing the victim if it happens.
@@matthewturner8063 I think people should think before criticising Froch ; in an era where media outlets give sycophantic interviews purely to remain "in the circle" its the boxing public that suffer. You can't tell me that none of the media "experts" thought Usyk would beat Fury for example....only Froch and Groves (and Duke McKenzie) were willing to put their heads on the line and make the predictions that others were too scared to because they don't have a financial agenda. Re AJ , I think all Frochs criticism is with a strong basis , if you can find any unfair criticism he's given AJ I'd like to hear it?
Personally I got a kick out of the the Heel Golovkin lol too bad he did it so late into his career because he was a natural at it,I never bought into the whole goodboy shtick. As for Aj counting his money to Froch I find that hilarious aswell,Froch can be annoying after awhile so watching him get a taste of his own medicine after awhile is quite entertaining to see!
@@mjimlee definitely not. Carl has had a better career than AJ to this date. This might change over time. But I can assure he’s nothing to be jealous off.
@@martincolton32define better career ? What has he achieved what aj hasn’t ? Froch was never number one in his division, scared to rematch Andre ward and fight GGG, Stevenson
AJ tried but the onlookers consistently poked at him, like the pessimists we all are. He tried Hatman, in the chaotic world of boxing thats gotta count for something. Give him that atleast hatman.
Let’s see if he keeps that same energy when he sees aj and let’s face it, you and froch both hate on aj! Your 2 peas in a pod 😂 that’s why u like his channel! Karl is a clown
I hated Froch as a fighter but he is quite amusing since he’s retired but he definitely holds a grudge for McCracken and has always been envious of the adulation Joshua gets. Also let’s not forget just how bitter and insecure he is about Calzaghe too 🤣🤣🤣
