Anthony Joshua | THE RISE AND FALL 

Hes in the mix I hope Fury Joshua comes off

That's an excuse

@@loonzuk what?

@@loonzuk even if it is an "excuse" It's still a real thing. Alot of people hold themself back mentally because we as human being are scared of failing.

Was nothing to do with the Ruiz loss, it all started when he fought Klitchko!

@@TimothyRice135 agreed

He was mentally weak before then

No

No. I don't think it started with anyone outside of Andy Ruiz. He saw that the levels of boxing are different.

I remember the rise. Stealing gold medals.

That's very dramatic. Pretty sure most people remember Ali's rise more than his fall. Tyson's rise and fall are remembered in equal measure

We remember the rise, a gifted gold medal and the easiest title fight in the history of the sport against Charles Martin.

haha bullshit what a stupid comment

bullshit

Only to fanboys with no brain.

Just needs to learn how to box now

@@Lee-ye3ev 😂😂😂😂😂😂 luck and timing have been in his favour. He should retire

He's not necessarily developing a hesitant jab. He fought the same opponent who was countering him. He was bamboozled and outboxed.

@@Lee-ye3ev You dont think he already knows how to box? Don't be silly..... you don't win an Olympic gold medal and multiple world titles if you don't know how to box!!

@@wppdendoor1948 Oh come on? ...... seriously?😳 You see..... that's the problem with boxing these days......if a boxer loses a couple of times people like you immediately right them off! That's one of the reasons why mma is becoming more popular, they are able to lose a few times and still go on to win titles without all the unnecessary criticism from the casual fans.

The Ruiz fight exposed everything.

Nah, he changed after the Klitschko fight. Klitschko took him somewhere Joshua had never been before and he didn't like it, so he has never been the same

@@TimothyRice135 I would have to agree. Prior to the Klitschko bout, he had won 18 consecutive fights all by KO. In 16 of those fights he took out his opponents in 3 rounds or less, the other 2 bouts ending in 7 round KO's in his favor. Starting with the Klitschko fight however, he went 11 grueling rounds, and though he ended up victorious, his stamina and endurance were tested for the first time and he has not truly been the same fighter since. In his 9 bouts _after_ klitschko, he has a record of 6-3 with over half of those fights going the 12 round distance (losing 2 of those to Usyk by decision) --- and one that did not go the distance, which was of course his upset KO loss to Ruiz.

Shows you the power of Sky sports. See how they are destroying Eddie now. Still Fury came on top.

Funny right? Hated the real champ in Fury but worshipped hype job Joshua

But fury has beaten Three top tens...Wilder, Klitschko and Whyte (wallin didn't break into too ten until he beat Gassiev)...AJ has beaten 10 top tens... Klitschko, Whyte, Martin, Brasile, Pulev, Povetkin, Parker, Takem, Ruiz, Wallin...Personally I prefer fighters that are always testing themselves against the best,, not cherry pickers like Fury. The man hasn't defended his belt in two years...And that was against a ranked 28 Chisora.. Fury is good boxer with a bad resume...AJ is an excellent boxer with a great resume.

He does have stamina issues. I think it is mostly because he has too much muscle. Muscle takes more oxygen. I think Anthony puts to much effort into lifting. He neglects his cardio. George did a lot of road work. Muscle does not always mean you can hit harder. Some of the hardest hitters don't have a ton of muscle. He should slim down a little So he's faster and that should give him more stamina.

@@thereviewartistrrp5493 I agree but in this day and age with all the sports science, nutrition , medial and physiological knowledge we have and the money he has. He can hire the best people in the world to fix that problem.

Yup that's on him. I agree. He just does not have the stamina to carry that much muscle. Everybody is different. Some people just have more fuel in the tank no matter how much you train.

@@thereviewartistrrp5493 💯

I agree with the muscle/stamina issues but I also believe, that loss to Ruiz took some of his self belief from him and he now doubts himself, if there is an opening.

3 losses may not look bad but considering that he fought only one other elite fighter, it doesn't look that good either. He is yet to fight Wilder and Fury and all his wins are against B-level fighters considered outside the top 4-5 at this time. The worse indication is that his chin is suspect and he fights scared now.

@@kbboy101 You got a point there, and I just discovered AJ didn't sign up to fight Fury their next bout in what easily could've been Aj's biggest draw of his career, that pretty much tells the story.

@@theghettoracle He didn't sign it because he needs sponsors to sign off on it first or he'll be sued to hell, this is pretty basic stuff but I guess there are a lot of so-called boxing fans who don't know much about how the sport works

@@kbboy101 That's the thing with high level boxing you will lose eventually all the greats have lost. Usyk is a great boxer he's been fighting for a long time

The fact is that he lost when he fought young, hungry, skilled fighters so it doesn't look that good. Thing is people know now that although he hits hard he is rather static and doesn't have the strongest chin ever. I know he beat Parker but Parker is not that amazing.

aj would have died

Assuming it was his promoter that screwed it up. Another stupid thing he did was signing a career deal with Eddie Hearn before the first Usyk fight.

talk him out of the wilder fight you must be the biggest fanboy i ever met 🤣🤣🤣🤣wilder himself and his promoter both admitted numerous times with proof on social media they didnt take the aj fight when it was meant to happen when they were both undefeated. Wilder instead chosd ortiz and thought he will beat fury after. Stop talking what you dont know and give aj his dues. He may have lost to Usyk and ruiz they are both elite af. Wilder and Fury are both cherry picking their opponent and its unbelieveable. Fury is literally making his own terms and running from the aj fight and instead now might be fighting some 500 level fighter called charr. Not even Joyce, Dubois, Ruiz, Povetkin Hrgovich but charr

Wilder turned down a 3 fight deal with Dazn worth $100 million. Seems to me it was Wilders team that didn't want the fight

​@@f8head wheres the proof now Eddie's fight been done for peds i don't believe a word of eddie

Lol the irony is tyson was talking about himself😊

In what way haha, he's undefeated

Rubbish. 😂

Fury talks too much..

Are you Fury's spokes person ?

B HOP took up boxing late and he is the oldest world champion ever every boxer is a ticking time bomb until they meet a boxer better than them ?

Well said

Wilder for the money. white is washed and Joyce is way too dangerous for such a low profile fight.

@@BOXINGSTARZ appreciate it means a lot

@@lediopolisx4710 This is how the stats works on possibilities. None of this can be true but it can come as a surprise.

He chose money over people just being honest with him, telling him his strengths and weaknesses, what to focus on, how to improve, best chance of winning fight etc.

Just seen him fall twice in1 fight 😂

@@peterdoleman9047 Yh hardly a “fall” though is it.

@@fivelions6854 dropped like he got shot then

@@peterdoleman9047 we’re talking life not a ring game.

@@peterdoleman9047 Mr on the dole.

cope

@@deutschedogge3223 cope over what?? Man’s made millions and he’s not even 35

Exactly , I’ve noticed his demise since those racist outbursts.

its quite unbelievable how absolute nobodies are able to be so incredibly judgemental on someone how has achieved so much in his life in such a short time, yes he handled that second usyk defeat in an extremely poor and embarrassing manner, but you can never deny what he has achieved, something you and i or most of us will never achieve

Bet you can whip him too!!

@@kevinlewis8162 Keep slurpin bro

@@erebus79 what is that even mean?? i'm a bit old for this new generation/internet gibberish......did you mean cry or something like that?

@@kevinlewis8162 quit making things personal g. We talking boxing right now. AJ is a soft heavy weight. Weak chin, low ring iq, predictable, and worst of all he lacks heart which is evident in his ring iq and decisions. Wilder would knock him out. Usyk boxed him home. Fury would KO him late. Joyce is a more questionable fight but joyce has what aj doesnt - good chin and engine plus he utilises his stiff jab more than aj ever has. AJ fight like an amateur, quite literally. The only reason he got this far was due to weak competition and physical prowess....

Wasn't Hearn's fault imo Deontay Wilder was given a third fight against fury as demanded by a third party judge What was Hearn suppose to do?

Bro get all sides of the story before jumping to conclusions. The Joshua- Wilder fight not happening wasn't only on one side. Easier to kick a man down than dissecting the issue honestly. This documentary clearly had a wilder/USA bias so paints all hold ups as AJs fault. Do you remember when Wilder said he had 50 million on deck for the AJ fight but didn't provide proof of funds? Also when AJ tried to make the fight for more money for wilder but Wilder decided to fight Fury the 1st time as they thought it was safer than AJ at the time( Dazn had a 150 Million 3 fight deal to host the fight which Wilder/PBC refused and took on Fury for less money. The fight was meant to be a one off but after the draw they signed a rematch with Fury and BT boxing for even less than 70 Million... Fury just coming off a 2.5 year lay off and looking poor in his 1st fight back? That's why Wilder keeps bragging than he picked fury for even less money from the gutter. Wilder made less money fighting Fury than accept the DAZN deal. Wilder also refused to fight AJ when he fought king Kong Ortiz the 1st time? That was why AJ proceeded to fight his mandatory Big baby miller. Also I'd also take everything Fury says with a pinch of salt. He has to rubbish AJ to secure his fight with Wilder. We all saw how he fumbled the bag again after the effort in setting the fight in August 2021 for hundreds of millions with AJ. Instead of negotiating a step aside with wilder they agreed to a 3rd fight worth almost 40 million against a fight with AJ over 100 million. His father was pissed as that even then. But he beat wilder so everyone forgets the fumble of the bag. Now he is calling for 500 million to come back to fight AJ or Usyk. Lol. That's Fury though

K0x yg5

@@isaabdullahi9097 absolute crap 😂

Only 2 twice. 1st fight was a DRAW nobody won the 1st fight

Go train him 😂

No good changing trainers, he just has to loosen up and let his hands go

Who else thinks he should go back to mcraken or Tony sims?

It´s hard to go out running at six in the morning when you sleep in silk sheets.

@@JosesAmazingWorlds I honestly don't think he does that, he just doesn't have a strong chin so he can't really let his hands go. His chin isn't that strong and he doesn't have that much movement. He's got the drive, it's just that he can't take heavy hits.

He's to stiff, poor chin and gasses after 6 rounds, hardly world class

@@MyCold1 get in the ring with him then

@@Tom-hx1wz i would happily get knocked out for 500k

Still a world class CrossFit trainer who can't box to save his life

@@Lee-ye3ev oh if he’s only a CrossFit trainer please get in the ring with him

that is not what it means at all, use your brain. AJ is a product, he has been built up by great propaganda, people want to fight him because he brings in money. his whole career is based on being a product.

@@SwissCheese112 Exactly. If he fights Fury (which I doubt, because he's running scared at the moment), Fury will end his boxing career, and what will he do then ? Appear on 'I'm a celebrity', love island, loose women, and every advert.

Plastic champ. He was protected and built up. And then exposed

@@DjNikGnashers hearn wont let him fight fury. he wants to build him up first and milk him for more before another defeat

OK, we've read the casuals opinions again. Can we now do only the truth? Truth like this... AJ is a fake Olympic Gold medallist. In his opening contest at the 2012 London Olympics, he fought Erislandy Savón through three tough rounds before just being given the result 17-16! That decision caused huge controversy at the games, with most observers believing Savon had clearly won the bout. He then beat Zhang Zhilei by 15-11, guaranteeing at least a bronze medal, (he had no right to be getting). In the semi-final, Joshua fought Ivan Dychko again only winning very late on in the fight, just by13-11. In the Olympic final, he "apparently" beat/drew with the reigning Olympic champion Roberto Cammarelle, after losing the first two rounds 6-5 and 13-10 respectively, at the end of the third round, the score was now (magically & hilariously) reading: level 18-18. And of course, that meant Joshua was announced winner and Olympic champion, by way of count-back? LOL. At the London Games? How embarrassing that really was! These AJ casuals would endlessly shout out... "Tyson Fury hasn't ever boxed anybody! And he's never defended his titles, blah blah". Isn't it funny how people/casuals who think they know, and think they understand, are always so willing to just type it, and even send it, and all while thinking they're making some kind of real statement? LOL. Casual Idiocy. So let's just answer this stupidity with facts? (And he's never defended his titles, blah blah). Every fight Fury has fought since he beat Klitscko, has been for Fury's Lineal world title? And otherwise, we all know he had a mental breakdown after winning the Heavyweight championship vs Klitscko, and he retired from boxing, (so that's why he never defended his title), I would have expected even the dimmest least educated of people to understand that, but when could he have defended his belts? He only won them back, in his 2nd Wilder fight? LOL, FFS... Duh! These AJ casuals are simply the dumbest people you could ever wish to read, it's quite astonishing we could ever read anyone as stupid and clueless, yet talking about a sport they so clearly know zip about, as heir very own words endlessly prove! They're right, though, Tyson Fury hasn't really fought anybody!. LOL. So backward, you can only actually laugh at the backwardness. Fury, in his 25th pro fight, went into Klitschko's boxing backyard, in Germany (where nobody ever gets a result), and nobody gave him a chance. Only in front of that really hostile crowd, he beat, and he schooled Klitschko, the longest reigning Heavyweight champion in history, (that nobody had ever schooled). They're right, though, Tyson Fury hasn't really fought anybody, honestly. We then saw Tyson lose the plot, (as many have before him), but he came back after his struggles three years later. And after telling the world he was going to come back and do what AJ was unwilling to do, and go to the USA to beat the bum Wilder, (to save more British embarrassment as AJ was avoiding the fight). And after shedding 9 stone in 9 months, in his first (comeback fight), he fought... Sefer Seferi, came with a record of 24 fights, 22 wins, 21 KO's, 1 loss. 1 draw, hasn't really fought anybody. In his 2nd (comeback fight), he fought Francesco Pianeta, came with a record of 35-4-1 with 21 KO's. (Who was brought in for Fury to get some rounds in) before his clash against Wilder, hasn't really fought anybody. Then in only his 3rd (comeback fight), he faced Deontay Wilder, came with an unbeaten record of 40 fights, 40 wins, 39 KO's, 0 losses. Who was the WBC Heavyweight Champion of the world, and ranked number one! Seeing Fury beat Wilder (only to be robbed by a blatant bit of cheating), calling it a draw, hasn't really fought anybody. Then while waiting for the rematch. Fury fought Tom Swartz, came with an unbeaten record of 24 fights, 24 wins, 17 KO's. He's also fought twice since losing to Fury, winning both, with a record today of 27 fights. 26 wins, 18 KO's, 1 loss to Fury, hasn't really fought anybody. Then keeping himself busy before the rematch, he fought Otto Wallin, came with an unbeaten record of 20 fights, 20 wins, 13 KO's. He's also fought twice since losing to Fury, winning both, with a record today of 24 fights, 23 wins, 14 KO'S, 1 loss to Fury, hasn't really fought anybody. Then he fought the rematch against Wilder, and we all watched Tyson do what he told us all he would do, and we watched him take it from the judges hands, and we saw Fury school, then KO, the so-called hardest hitting Heavyweight in boxing history, hasn't really fought anybody. Then he fought the Trilogy against Wilder, and we all watched Tyson again, beat him up, and KO him, after a truly great fight, hasn't really fought anybody. H then made a joke of Dylion White and just blew him away with utmost ease. Still hasn't really fought anybody. So, really, what can anyone say to these AJ casuals, who are unbelievably white people (easily the least educated and most treacherous white Brits this country has ever witnessed or ever experienced before) supporting AJ the Anti-white (proven racist), so they're supporting someone who hates who they are, hates what they stand for, and hates this country, their own country. NEVER have we seen anything as embarrassing, as tragically uneducated, and as stupid as every one of these AJ fans, and man they know nothing about boxing, or even anything about anything else, simple brain-dead's. This is the TRUTH. Oh, and whose boxer got punked on, and stomped on, by Andy Ruiz, LOL. And was exposed for what he really is by Usyk, (a real championship boxer, and real Olympic Gold medallist), unlike the clueless upright AJ novice, (who has always been a novice). Had a punch, and absolutely nothing else! It leaves you scratching your head, wondering what these treacherous uneducated AJ casuals expected to see? LOL. I mean honestly, I've read clueless many times, but these AJ fans?, well they've taken the word "dumb", and they've completely abused it. AGAIN...LOL.

TOP 5? LOLOLOLOL

@@hotstepper887 jesus go and do something constructive with your day pal. You write like someone actually cares what you think. Didn't read past the second paragraph, no one will.

He's a 33 year old fighter who already has very bad cardio and relies on athleticism. He hasn't got a lot of mileage left.

It's not AJ who is doing the avoiding, come on.

@@holliswilliams8426 we all know AJ wouldn’t even win a round come on🤦🏽‍♂️

You must be stupid to think AJ was avoiding him. Tyson been avoiding AJ and has only fought 2 good fighters, the rest were bums

OK, we've read the casuals opinions again. Can we now do only the truth? Truth like this... AJ is a fake Olympic Gold medallist. In his opening contest at the 2012 London Olympics, he fought Erislandy Savón through three tough rounds before just being given the result 17-16! That decision caused huge controversy at the games, with most observers believing Savon had clearly won the bout. He then beat Zhang Zhilei by 15-11, guaranteeing at least a bronze medal, (he had no right to be getting). In the semi-final, Joshua fought Ivan Dychko again only winning very late on in the fight, just by13-11. In the Olympic final, he "apparently" beat/drew with the reigning Olympic champion Roberto Cammarelle, after losing the first two rounds 6-5 and 13-10 respectively, at the end of the third round, the score was now (magically & hilariously) reading: level 18-18. And of course, that meant Joshua was announced winner and Olympic champion, by way of count-back? LOL. At the London Games? How embarrassing that really was! These AJ casuals would endlessly shout out... "Tyson Fury hasn't ever boxed anybody! And he's never defended his titles, blah blah". Isn't it funny how people/casuals who think they know, and think they understand, are always so willing to just type it, and even send it, and all while thinking they're making some kind of real statement? LOL. Casual Idiocy. So let's just answer this stupidity with facts? (And he's never defended his titles, blah blah). Every fight Fury has fought since he beat Klitscko, has been for Fury's Lineal world title? And otherwise, we all know he had a mental breakdown after winning the Heavyweight championship vs Klitscko, and he retired from boxing, (so that's why he never defended his title), I would have expected even the dimmest least educated of people to understand that, but when could he have defended his belts? He only won them back, in his 2nd Wilder fight? LOL, FFS... Duh! These AJ casuals are simply the dumbest people you could ever wish to read, it's quite astonishing we could ever read anyone as stupid and clueless, yet talking about a sport they so clearly know zip about, as heir very own words endlessly prove! They're right, though, Tyson Fury hasn't really fought anybody!. LOL. So backward, you can only actually laugh at the backwardness. Fury, in his 25th pro fight, went into Klitschko's boxing backyard, in Germany (where nobody ever gets a result), and nobody gave him a chance. Only in front of that really hostile crowd, he beat, and he schooled Klitschko, the longest reigning Heavyweight champion in history, (that nobody had ever schooled). They're right, though, Tyson Fury hasn't really fought anybody, honestly. We then saw Tyson lose the plot, (as many have before him), but he came back after his struggles three years later. And after telling the world he was going to come back and do what AJ was unwilling to do, and go to the USA to beat the bum Wilder, (to save more British embarrassment as AJ was avoiding the fight). And after shedding 9 stone in 9 months, in his first (comeback fight), he fought... Sefer Seferi, came with a record of 24 fights, 22 wins, 21 KO's, 1 loss. 1 draw, hasn't really fought anybody. In his 2nd (comeback fight), he fought Francesco Pianeta, came with a record of 35-4-1 with 21 KO's. (Who was brought in for Fury to get some rounds in) before his clash against Wilder, hasn't really fought anybody. Then in only his 3rd (comeback fight), he faced Deontay Wilder, came with an unbeaten record of 40 fights, 40 wins, 39 KO's, 0 losses. Who was the WBC Heavyweight Champion of the world, and ranked number one! Seeing Fury beat Wilder (only to be robbed by a blatant bit of cheating), calling it a draw, hasn't really fought anybody. Then while waiting for the rematch. Fury fought Tom Swartz, came with an unbeaten record of 24 fights, 24 wins, 17 KO's. He's also fought twice since losing to Fury, winning both, with a record today of 27 fights. 26 wins, 18 KO's, 1 loss to Fury, hasn't really fought anybody. Then keeping himself busy before the rematch, he fought Otto Wallin, came with an unbeaten record of 20 fights, 20 wins, 13 KO's. He's also fought twice since losing to Fury, winning both, with a record today of 24 fights, 23 wins, 14 KO'S, 1 loss to Fury, hasn't really fought anybody. Then he fought the rematch against Wilder, and we all watched Tyson do what he told us all he would do, and we watched him take it from the judges hands, and we saw Fury school, then KO, the so-called hardest hitting Heavyweight in boxing history, hasn't really fought anybody. Then he fought the Trilogy against Wilder, and we all watched Tyson again, beat him up, and KO him, after a truly great fight, hasn't really fought anybody. H then made a joke of Dylion White and just blew him away with utmost ease. Still hasn't really fought anybody. So, really, what can anyone say to these AJ casuals, who are unbelievably white people (easily the least educated and most treacherous white Brits this country has ever witnessed or ever experienced before) supporting AJ the Anti-white (proven racist), so they're supporting someone who hates who they are, hates what they stand for, and hates this country, their own country. NEVER have we seen anything as embarrassing, as tragically uneducated, and as stupid as every one of these AJ fans, and man they know nothing about boxing, or even anything about anything else, simple brain-dead's. This is the TRUTH. Oh, and whose boxer got punked on, and stomped on, by Andy Ruiz, LOL. And was exposed for what he really is by Usyk, (a real championship boxer, and real Olympic Gold medallist), unlike the clueless upright AJ novice, (who has always been a novice). Had a punch, and absolutely nothing else! It leaves you scratching your head, wondering what these treacherous uneducated AJ casuals expected to see? LOL. I mean honestly, I've read clueless many times, but these AJ fans?, well they've taken the word "dumb", and they've completely abused it. AGAIN...LOL.

@@holliswilliams8426 hahhha

everyone saying its embarassing but ruiz is actually deadly id say he has the fatest hands in the heavyweight division and they are heavy punches but he foot work is lazy

@@MrSupermario21 At the time it was embarrassing.

@@pdubhnic kind of if you look at them body wise but the dude has over 130 plus amatuer fights no matter how you look you can fight with that much fights behind you

@@pdubhnic And still is. 😂

@@bosshogg1915 Yeah, He definitely got laughed out of the building. 😂

I don’t usually read long comments but what you wrote is 100 percent true fury has everybody eating out his hand he went life and death with wilder in that 1st and 3rd fight fury hasn’t fought enough people to go down as a all time great usyk would give fury a hard time so would AJ fury is a great boxer but a all time great I don’t think so

Nah bro, AJ era is over, you said you see no one else beating AJ, I'll tell you who can : Fury, Wilder and Joe Joyce, and by the time he loses to those 3 who know how many more HW will be able to take him, he's done, he had a very successful career tho and by the end of it, he will have more money than most HW in history that were better than him so his career will be successful

Hes a nobody

@@vlaicurabca6987 Fan boy spotted

@@Tpbabyface Fanboy of who you loser?

So a fall

And that time he got knocked the f out by Ruiz….

did you miss the ruiz fioht or are you a casual

Khan could box. He can't

@@hotstepper887 AJ can box, he’s better then most of the division but he’s under all the champs

No

Hes back on the journey

I mean....who has Fury beaten apart from old Klitschko and Wilder who is powerful but has zero boxing skill. AJ has beaten Parker, Ruiz etc, that's the facts, Fury says he could beat those guys but he doesn't do it, he just talks and then fights bums.

only hope is to get trainers who are honest with him and tell him his strengths and weaknesses in a pragmatic way, I think maybe his trainers are scared to tell him the truth because of his appearance or something

Definitely 👏👏👏

I see someone who is fake, has been manufactured by Hearn and is a bad loser...and he does that a lot lately and before you say that was against P4P champ, he also lost to a fat Mexican

True but its not about that. He got hyped up so much that when people saw him fall they where like he is not that hyped up boxer everyone was talking about.

Champions have belts, where's AJ's?

you forget how big a jump it is from cruiser 2 fights before AJ was 50 pounds heavier yes 50 like a middleweight fighting a flyweight who moved up 5 divisions in one go. It tells you usyk has ten times the skills of AJ to be beat by such a small guy by 9 rounds to 3 in reality