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Antinatalists React to HATE Comments 

Lawrence Anton
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I'm joined by John (‪@PositivePessimist‬) to react to our favourite hate comments against antinatalists.
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00:00 - Intro
00:21 - Miserable Kant
03:50 - Reducing Suffering is a Weird Ideology
06:29 - Bloodlines
08:50 - Pathetic Antinatalism
14:16 - Incels
18:58 - Outro
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Комментарии : 129   
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
What hate comments have you received? Join the supporter community and get perks: patreon.com/lawrenceanton/
@francisdec1615
@francisdec1615 9 месяцев назад
There is a guy in a Swedish forum that says that we should seek psychiatric help (of course). The same person also admits that he wouldn't try to protect his wife and children against a physical assault but call the cops and hope for the best. I have also heard people say that I want to destroy the white race, though I explicitly pointed out that I'm not in favour of uncontrolled immigration and that I want *everybody* to stop breeding.
@SparklySarah
@SparklySarah 9 месяцев назад
"You're so pretty! How could you deprive the world of beautiful people?" 😂😂
@Sheikh_White_
@Sheikh_White_ 9 месяцев назад
@@francisdec1615 “I want everybody to stop breeding”🤣🤣🤣 OMG you are so edgy💀💀💀
@nopants3560
@nopants3560 9 месяцев назад
I'm an Anti-natalist with a Narcissistic mother . " I fed you and took care of you" well done !! That should be expected by ALL parents otherwise you will be in Jail!🤣🤪
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
The entitlement 🙄
@lovethyneibor22736
@lovethyneibor22736 9 месяцев назад
do u mean entitlement from parents or from kiddos? @@LawrenceAnton
@danpaz9485
@danpaz9485 9 месяцев назад
@@lovethyneibor22736 The mother I think
@sariahlace5944
@sariahlace5944 9 месяцев назад
Both you,and all of us,never gave permission to come here parents are so biologically stupid.
@Sheikh_White_
@Sheikh_White_ 9 месяцев назад
Westerners when asked to behave and be normal human beings:
@ANTINATALIST_lewis
@ANTINATALIST_lewis 9 месяцев назад
The Irony with natalists is unfathomable. 1.Natalists don't care about their children, they only care about thee status quo.
@RoseAmina-ol1kd
@RoseAmina-ol1kd 9 месяцев назад
I would say that natalists only care about their EGO. Me, me, me. I want. I need. I desire.
@pendoravo417
@pendoravo417 9 месяцев назад
antinatalism doesn't harm anyone. but natalism will always make sufferings, victims of life. you can clearly see which side is right and wrong.
@KyleEvra
@KyleEvra 8 месяцев назад
Agreed!
@mariaradulovic3203
@mariaradulovic3203 9 месяцев назад
I was never that miserable to become a breeder.
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
A lot of people seem to have a lot as a way of filling a hole in their life. Maybe try therapy… 😅
@lovethyneibor22736
@lovethyneibor22736 9 месяцев назад
Two people, simple people, amazing people, beautiful philosophy
@RoseAmina-ol1kd
@RoseAmina-ol1kd 9 месяцев назад
Two enlightened wonderful humans full of compassion for potential newborns. They deserve all my respect.
@lovethyneibor22736
@lovethyneibor22736 7 месяцев назад
@@RoseAmina-ol1kd Howdy Mkowsky claims that "there's a spiritual world outside of the physical world and that world is where our unborn kiddos live, they live a much better life there and it's our job to protect them from ever coming into the physical realm" what your thoughts on this?
@Orochi_REDIORI
@Orochi_REDIORI 9 месяцев назад
it's not about the bloodlines it's about how selfish having kids is, bringing anyone even though nothing makes a damn sense here that is already a violation of everyone right so, this society is a huge tyrannical prison period.
@filrabat1965
@filrabat1965 9 месяцев назад
Bloodlines comments always set off a four-alarm fire warning in my psyche. Hint: they should pick up a history book and read it, especially 20th century history - and to be honest, the latter half of the 19th, too.
@Noah-zq8cb
@Noah-zq8cb 9 месяцев назад
Antibatalism for the win lol
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
The subreme philosophy
@saggyshaggy
@saggyshaggy 9 месяцев назад
Honestly, im more worried about r/antinatalism than any comment a famouse natalists has made . . . If anything is gonna give us a bad image, its that subreddit
@saggyshaggy
@saggyshaggy 9 месяцев назад
@Lilboozibert nah, usually what i see is just antinatalist shaming people they have never met for having kids, rather than actual discussions of the ethics of procreation and on antinatalism Also, they have developed their own slur for people who procreate. They call them "breeders." The whole thing is just . . . Kinda culty I'm I'm going to be honest
@austinr.5989
@austinr.5989 9 месяцев назад
@@saggyshaggyWe have every right to shame people for doing fucked up shit.. wtf is your problem with shaming arrogant assholes? You have no issue with shaming violent criminals do you? Then stfu hypocrite
@josephancion2190
@josephancion2190 2 месяца назад
As a vegantinatalist, when I hear people say that vegans on the internet are annoying, I want to say... have you seen reddit antinatalists ? I've hung out on that sub a few times but man is the social signalling disastrous. It's no wonder that there are five or six different subreddits, cause the two main ones are really a drag and a stain on the community. The best sub for AN advocacy is actually r/Natalism.
@shwedagonpaya
@shwedagonpaya 9 месяцев назад
What gets me is not so much hate comments by individuals, which I judge as stupid, ignorant and ill-informed, but censorship by social media channels and society in general. Actually censorship of antinatalism would be a great topic for you to cover.
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
Will add the topic to the list!
@Sheikh_White_
@Sheikh_White_ 9 месяцев назад
It’s not censorship, it’s just that people are not willing to listen to individuals that want to stop other people from having kids LOoooolll, Who do you think you lot are?
@shwedagonpaya
@shwedagonpaya 9 месяцев назад
@@Sheikh_White_ I had a similar response from one very irascible individual when I was discussing in public a while ago. He was rude, angry and aggressive and wanted to shut down the debate. Natalists are like that.
@LucretiusDraco
@LucretiusDraco 9 месяцев назад
Lots of ppl are choosing to not make more ppl. Less ppl sounds great to me. Do appreciate all the hate comments; I’m always interested in a good laugh!
@ashwickety4273
@ashwickety4273 9 месяцев назад
That ending 🤣 People are so silly and often just display their ignorance and how they lack empathy when they leave comments like these. It always makes me a little extra grateful that I didn't create another human who will inevitably encounter people like this! A personal favorite of mine was when I wore my "Stop Having Kids" mask to a local vegan spot on Mother's Day a couple years back and it upset a woman so much she snapped a photo of me, posted it on FB and deemed me a "yoga pants wearing edgelord" 💀 We had a few mutual friends and they sent me screenshots of the post. This woman's friends were calling me a POS among other things, it was quite entertaining!
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
The fact that my child could end up as one of the people leaving comments like these five is an argument enough not to create them 😂 …edgelord is a classic 😂
@ashwickety4273
@ashwickety4273 9 месяцев назад
@@LawrenceAnton Hahaha yes, that too!!
@PositivePessimist
@PositivePessimist 9 месяцев назад
“Yoga pants wearing edgelord” 😂
@KyleEvra
@KyleEvra 8 месяцев назад
Pronatalists lack Empathy. 🔪💔 I always believed that!
@NoInjusticeLastsForever
@NoInjusticeLastsForever 9 месяцев назад
"I'll have a kid for every kid you don't have" - if people trolled like they do to vegans
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
😂😂
@kierafrost2550
@kierafrost2550 9 месяцев назад
The editing in the first part... I Kant even 😂
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
I’m sure he would approve of this use of his likeness 🔥😂
@johnstephen399
@johnstephen399 9 месяцев назад
Interesting video with through provoking responses.
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
Cheers king
@juangaby
@juangaby 9 месяцев назад
I love you both. Amazing video.
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
@@juangaby legend
@PositivePessimist
@PositivePessimist 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for having me on you miserable Kant ❤
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
Cheers for coming on, incel
@PositivePessimist
@PositivePessimist 9 месяцев назад
*simp
@user-cz5gt5cb6d
@user-cz5gt5cb6d 9 месяцев назад
Emanuel Kant was a brilliant philosopher 🎉🎉🎉
@livingstonem10
@livingstonem10 9 месяцев назад
Fun video, guys. Thanks for taking one on the cheek for us. Classy
@mcc5295
@mcc5295 9 месяцев назад
i love when breeders get triggered. lmao . we use their tears as fuel in this mad max dystopia as they have to buy diapers. lmao..great video bro
@KyleEvra
@KyleEvra 8 месяцев назад
Buying diapers. 😂
@philjones6522
@philjones6522 9 месяцев назад
"You've lost the game." Funny. I too had this conversation a couple of years back. The irony is that i wasn't even wanting to discuss the topic but it must've provoked something in the other person. I agree to lose the game. End of story.
@davidsgardell
@davidsgardell 9 месяцев назад
Hahah glad you left that last part in 😂😂
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
Next video coming soon, it’s saucy… 🍑👀
@davidsgardell
@davidsgardell 9 месяцев назад
Hahahaha!! I have now toggled the All notifications on @@LawrenceAnton
@dio69666
@dio69666 9 месяцев назад
What's the bald guy's channel?
@PositivePessimist
@PositivePessimist 9 месяцев назад
It’s me! No videos yet, that may change soon…
@roseaminty4887
@roseaminty4887 9 месяцев назад
@@PositivePessimist I can't wait for your content. 🙂
@antinatalope
@antinatalope 9 месяцев назад
Haha! Got me laughing, you miserable cnuts!
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
Sad fuker 😂
@roseaminty4887
@roseaminty4887 9 месяцев назад
Two amazing legends. 😍 I love you, guys. 🥰
@AnonymousWon-uu5yn
@AnonymousWon-uu5yn 9 месяцев назад
I'm an antinatalist because I can't stand most aspects of my life. But if I enjoyed more things in life then I might still be an antinatalist because I hate it that there are any life forms suffering against their will. And one of the reasons why I hate it that any life forms are suffering against their will is because I know that no life form deserves to suffer against their will in any way. Hitler for example. He unfortunately happen to have the type of genetics and the types of life experiences that caused him to hate certain types of people so much that he had them tortured and killed. But if he would have been born and raised somewhere else on the planet then he might have had the types of life experiences that caused him to not hate anybody to that degree and then he wouldn't have wanted anybody to be tortured or killed and that wouldn't have been his fault that he existed and happen to have the types of life experiences that caused him to be that way either. The only way the way people are would be their fault is if they willingly chose to come into existence and if they created themselves and made themselves be exactly the way that they want to be, but that's not possible. And that's why nobody deserves for anything good or bad to happen to them because the only way someone would deserve something is if the way they are would be their fault. But if I didn't understand that the way people are isn't their fault, then I might want to blame and punish them for doing the bad or horrible things that they do. And I do agree that if someone does something that is bad enough then they should be stopped in order to prevent them from causing other life forms to suffer against their will. But it would be much better if no life forms existed at all because then no life form would be a victim of existing and suffering against their will. And if no life forms existed then that would be just fine because then no life form would know or care that they didn't exist.
@lovethyneibor22736
@lovethyneibor22736 9 месяцев назад
Bro you are very wise ❤
@roberthereandthere4366
@roberthereandthere4366 9 месяцев назад
This was quite a giggle. 😂👍
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed!
@user-mp5lb7sh5r
@user-mp5lb7sh5r 9 месяцев назад
_“The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.” ― Elie Wiesel_ To get haters' attention is not the worst. The worst is when humans disregard their own suffering or the suffering that will inevitably be experienced upon existence.
@Crazy_Gamer_Girl
@Crazy_Gamer_Girl 9 месяцев назад
Another banger video (Gen Z antinatalist!!
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
Legend
@FinalFantasy8911debater
@FinalFantasy8911debater 9 месяцев назад
Great job guys.
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
Cheers legend
@monk4ever
@monk4ever 8 месяцев назад
These two make a cute couple. ❤
@apocolex93
@apocolex93 8 месяцев назад
This was brilliant 🤣
@filrabat1965
@filrabat1965 9 месяцев назад
The Darwinian Game: OK, let's go with that. *If* success at a game depends on hurting, harming, or degrading others, AND there's no way to exit the game on your own accord than to likewise cause great hurt, harm, or grief to others -- *then* is victory in this game really an honorable outcome? Should we really pursue victory in the game of Bloodlines? As the computer in the 1983 movie Wargames put it, "What a strange game. The only winning move is not to play". As for pjpridgen, look up his profile. You'll see his lifestyle and attitudes are a bit on the macho side. Yeah, what a surprise.
@jimmyjohnny5661
@jimmyjohnny5661 5 месяцев назад
Is the suffering preventable?
@dagamingsalmon7668
@dagamingsalmon7668 8 месяцев назад
You trying to tell me cultists don't take outsiders seriously, discard valid criticisms and arguments that go against their doctrine, and cherry pick/paint them as all bad faith dum-dums? No way!
@ova-wrought
@ova-wrought 9 месяцев назад
🤣I really relished this - thank you both! Antibatalism!? Silly bunt.
@francisdec1615
@francisdec1615 9 месяцев назад
Antibaitalism would be good, though - no clickbaits.
@ova-wrought
@ova-wrought 9 месяцев назад
@@francisdec1615 😆Good one!
@user-hi4gu6rh3c
@user-hi4gu6rh3c 9 месяцев назад
9:30 oh my god 😭😭😭criiingee
@user-hi4gu6rh3c
@user-hi4gu6rh3c 9 месяцев назад
14:46 ХПАХАХХАХХАХ
@ronaldfreeman1787
@ronaldfreeman1787 9 месяцев назад
I'm an antinatalist non-vegan and I know I'm evil for having my existence in eating animals for my survival. I'm sure you're disappointed in me for not going the extra mile for the reduction of suffering. And for that I am sorry for being what nature has adapted me to become attached to meat products for my diet, genuinely sorry. But then again the vegans' incessant pestering is not helping anyone. I rather just apply euthanasia to avoid this argument but then again the governments aren't letting us go off this easy. No one chose to be here but we are here anyway to be consumers in all aspects. You buying products from local farmers for plant products is helping your local government as a whole. But I digress.
@bm.6349
@bm.6349 9 месяцев назад
Excuses, excuses.
@PositivePessimist
@PositivePessimist 9 месяцев назад
Interesting perspective. Is it essential for you to eat animals for your survival, or do you have the option to stop eating animals?
@PrimetimeX
@PrimetimeX 9 месяцев назад
@@PositivePessimistit is essential to eat meat as veganism is unhealthy and detrimental to the mind.
@ronaldfreeman1787
@ronaldfreeman1787 9 месяцев назад
@@bm.6349 Do you have an excuse for killing other lifeforms for your survival? I'm sure the plants also have a right to live as well.
@ronaldfreeman1787
@ronaldfreeman1787 9 месяцев назад
@@PositivePessimist I would rather not kill any lifeforms. I would rather become a computer and be powered by the sun for my survival. Then again, that's not an option. It's a dog eat dog reality we live in. We kill to eat and survive. Is it essential for you to kill plants for your sustenance?
@PhunkBustA
@PhunkBustA 9 месяцев назад
you can do whatever the fk u want, but surely you yourselves can recognize where the problems might lie in general, im sure if i mention it things will quickly start to get too real and youtube will censor me
@mikedonigan6665
@mikedonigan6665 9 месяцев назад
You're going against God's will!! The Bible says to be fruitful and multiply! REPENT 🔥!
@ANTINATALIST_lewis
@ANTINATALIST_lewis 9 месяцев назад
:( nooooooo
@LawrenceAnton
@LawrenceAnton 9 месяцев назад
We are the ANtichrist
@shwedagonpaya
@shwedagonpaya 9 месяцев назад
“And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.” Genesis, Chapter 6.7
@ANTINATALIST_lewis
@ANTINATALIST_lewis 9 месяцев назад
@@shwedagonpaya thus proves gnosticism is THEE TRUTH
@bm.6349
@bm.6349 9 месяцев назад
Do you think that maybe that’s what the churches wanted cause more people = more people giving them money ?
@whitecrow1583
@whitecrow1583 9 месяцев назад
You both seem too quick to assume that reducing suffering is obviously the highest moral good. Suffering can mean growth for some people and they may value it and maybe believe in karma and the eternity of the soul/essence. You might say there is no evidence for that but there is also not evidence about the obviousness of suffering being the most important factor.
@weltlos
@weltlos 9 месяцев назад
Why should growth be more important than the reduction of suffering? It isn't. All we do is to avoid suffering, never to achieve growth or happiness. We eat to avoid starvation, we form relationships to avoid loneliness, we seek entertainment to avoid boredom, and so forth. If your belief says otherwise, that's fine, but don't force it onto other people, in this case your (potential) children, by making it the sole reason for their existence.
@Deadinside_deadIn
@Deadinside_deadIn 9 месяцев назад
suffering means growth then why are people killing themself?
@Sheikh_White_
@Sheikh_White_ 9 месяцев назад
I was an antinatalist until I realised that you cannot have an objective moral say in life unless you believe in God. And when you believe in Allah antinatalism becomes an embarrassing past self of yours
@filrabat1965
@filrabat1965 9 месяцев назад
Most AN's are atheists anyway. So your claim doesn't carry the slightest hint of force for us. Also, why have children if there's an excellent chance they'll go to Hell?
@PositivePessimist
@PositivePessimist 9 месяцев назад
Come on mate, antinatalism can’t be as embarrassing as having to justify / defend the actions of Muhammad (a man in his 50s who had sex with a nine year old child).
@Sheikh_White_
@Sheikh_White_ 9 месяцев назад
@@PositivePessimist haha, like I said how can you have an objective moral view as a atheist antinatalist? 🤣🤣🤣it was wrong why? Cause you said so? You are not an authority, and you have to ask yourself why it is wrong. Is it consequentially wrong or morally wrong? If you say it is wrong because of the consequences you have to provide evidence that the girl suffered or that she was either not physically or mentally prepared for marriage? (You can’t) 🤣 And if you say morally, again, it’s subjective, its like me saying the colour red is morally wrong, can you prove it is morally wrong, no. This argument started recently in the 1800. Before that nobody used this argument against Islam because quite frankly it wasn’t even an argument, the norm was that you could get married even at 5 in the USA and in The Uk. People back then were different.
@Sheikh_White_
@Sheikh_White_ 9 месяцев назад
@@PositivePessimist And I keep my view on antinatalism, it seems just like some people tryna be edgy. “Stop life so we stop suffering” Why is suffering bad? Again pain can be only subjectively morally bad if you are an atheist. However we in Islam believe that pain isn’t necessarily bad, we live and we die, we get pleasure and we suffer. What would pleasure be if we wouldn’t suffer? Rainbow at the end of the storm kinda thing.
@PositivePessimist
@PositivePessimist 9 месяцев назад
@@Sheikh_White_many Muslim preachers have told me that Muhammad is the example of perfect moral behaviour. They have also told me that Muhammad did indeed have sex with a nine year old child (after marrying her when she was six when still played with dolls), as well as capturing sex slaves / beheading captives etc (as it says in the Koran and Hadiths). I know these actions weren’t unique to Muhammad, but the other people that did these aren’t held as the perfect example of moral behaviour, and therefore Muhammad is worthy of this criticism.
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