AOH Reacts to Uncommon: MJ Never Beat Kareem 

Anyone pushing that Kareem was not on the team must think Kareem retired in his 20s. Just goes to show how little they know of the history of the game. Sad.

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Fun Fact Darvin Ham in 1997 did the slam dunk contest and lebron never did

It's just one of those things. MJ never lost in the finals. And part of what makes Larry Bird a Goat is that he beat a team with two goats on it. Magic and Kareem. Kareem is a Goat with a legitimate Longevity argument attached to him but by the time he retired Kareem was severely diminished for playing 20 years of hard basketball + 3 if you count college which I do.

In 1998 on the way to the finals Jazz swept Lakers. Those Lakers had 4 all-stars on a team: Nick Van Exel, Eddie Jones, Kobe Bryant, Shaq. This just speaks volumes how strong the Jazz were. It took tremendous effort from MJ and the Bulls to beat them, while Pippen was battling injury.

People also forget after Kareem left the bucks he went through a championship drought until he got magic

That 90's Lakers team is better than many people say. In 1990 they won 63 games. Granted, they were eliminated in the second round, but still, they were bonafide contenders. In 1991, they struggled with injuries during the finals, but by no means they were easy.

I used to think it was just basketball, but it's not even that anymore.

I recently watched AoH's video 'The three men who were tricked into playing with Michael Jordan' - definitely worth a rewatch

Every time i saw mj on the court with Kareem mj made him look like statue period!

They don’t respect the goat enough. They will make up excuses to discredit his greatness. That just shows how good he was. He was TOO good

Speaking of the Jazz They beat a Shaq, Kobe Eddie Jones team two seasons in a row. I know people will say Kobe was inexperience but Shaq still had Eddie Jones who was just as good as Kobe at the time. Not 2000 Kobe

Lebron defenders always point out how stacked the teams were that beat him in the finals. Now we need to use who Jordan faced in the finals from the West as a way to diminish his GOAT argument?

Damn, you know his haters got nothing if they trying to nitpick and go that far to find something bad to say about MJ lol

Isiah Thomas was injured in the 1988 NBA Finals when the Pistons were up 3-2 and in game 6, Thomas twisted his ankle in which he was on crutches, and Magic won with Isiah Thomas still playing injured. In 1989, Isiah Thomas won and when the series was starting, Detroit was up 1-0 and in game 2, Magic got hurt with the hamstring, Detroit won game 2 and in game 3, Magic went out on the court, started to play, played a couple of trips down the court, couldn't go, then he was out for the rest of the series and Isiah Thomas won 4-0. So when Magic was injured, Isiah won; when Isiah was injured, Magic won -- so that's Isiah Thomas vs. Magic Johnson in the NBA Finals...they are 1-1 against each other, case closed.

You and 2Raw the only ones that pointed this out 💪🏽

You hear the story of Wilt playing pickup vs Magic his rookie year? He didnt even let their squad get a shot off. Blocked every one.

Looking back on it I think the reason they took MJ off of Magic for a time was that MJ was getting too many fouls guarding Magic, so they swapped for a bit to keep MJ from fouling out.

Please do a full episode on that Pippen/Magic matchup because these turds who never watched a minute of that finals, just highlights and regurgitating what others say.

Scottie shutting down Magic is some sort of Mandela Effect, people are falsely remembering it because Scottie turned out to be a very good defender post 1991 title. So people thought he must have shut down Magic during their Finals matchup.

Excellent point regarding the Pistons AOH !!! I remember when Magic injured his hamstring at the beginning of that series .

I completely ignore Isiah Mr. Sexual Harassment Thomas. 💩 I never saw a guy that wants more credit than he deserves like him. Kareem came into the league in 1969 and MJ🐐in 84. Based on the way they built teams back then the chances of them meeting in the Finals with a 15 year gap in between the starts of their careers was slim. Although they did meet in the regular season and it went 4-4. Also when the Pistons beat the Lakers in the 89 Finals Kareem was 41 years old. 😂😂😂😂

Worth and Scott were hurt in game 3 I believe

In 1986 Olajuwon dominated the defending champ Showtime Lakers with Kareem avg 27ppg, Worthy avg 20ppg 5rpg, and Magic nearly averaging a triple double with 22ppg, 8rpg, 2.5spg, 16apg!! Olajuwon gentleman swept them and only lost to the Celtics in 6 games of the Finals cuz Sampson decided to act like a punk

Thanks a lot!! Love this

AOH... now you know the NBA couldn't afford TWO conference sweeps lol there's money to be made.

If it wasn't for Magic Johnson Kareem Abdul-Jabbar would only have one title and that was in Milwaukee😂

"It's just basketball" proves today's players do not give a shit about the game in any way.

One players rookie year was 1969 while the others was 1984 .......what are we even talking about .

Why didn't MJ just get in his DeLorean and go back in time so he could beat the Milwaukee Bucks with young Kareem and Oscar Robertson 1:45

I started watching the NBA in fifth grade 1986. When I watched Celtics were a great team. Lakers were a great team. Pistons were a great team. Blazers were a great team. Jordan was always the best "player" in the NBA. He finally got a few solid role players and that was it. Kareem was over the hill when I started. He'd shoot a hook every time and missed more often than not. Kevin Mchale tour him up along with every other post player from 86 til he retired. I got tired of watching Jordan annihilate every one in the 90's that I rooted against him. Penny Hardaway and the Magic had the most potential. Then greed and ego's sent the league into the "crap" it is today.

How about the fact that Magic first title, came with out Kareem

Why Kareem can’t be compared with Mj: Kareem has monster Prime stats.. but also consider the circumstances: games. The 1971 Bucks, however, faced a sub-50 win team in each of the 3 rounds in their title run including the Lakers without Jerry West and the 42-40 Bullets with Gus Johnson missing half the NBA Finals. The 1972 Lakers defeated the Bucks with an injured Oscar averaging 9 ppg for the series and the sub-50 win Knicks without Willis Reed, who won Finals MVP in both 1970 and 1973 while defeating the Lakers both times. When the two teams that are generally considered the "best" of that era played such weak competition, that says it all about the quality of the era as a whole. The competition was so poor in 1976 that Kareem became the only MVP in NBA history to win the award despite missing the playoffs. When the best player in the league can't even make the playoffs, that says a lot about the quality of the league as a whole for that particular season. In fact, Kareem is the only consensus top 10 player to miss the playoffs twice in his prime, doing so in 1975 and 1976. Likewise, when the best player of that era missed the playoffs twice in his prime, that says a lot about the quality of the NBA in the 1970s as a whole. The following players were amongst the best of the 1970s, but spent a good amount of time in the ABA during that timespan, leaving a much weaker and watered down NBA for other players to compete in. Rick Barry - 1968/69 - 1971/72, did not play in 1967/68 Artis Gilmore - 1971/72 - 1975/76 Billy Cunningham - 1972/73 - 1973/74 George Gervin - 1972/73 - 1975/76 Julius Erving - 1971/72 - 1975/76 David Thompson - 1975/76 *This would be akin to Jordan competing in a league without Isiah, Magic, Drexler, Barkley, Payton, Stockton or Malone for a large chunk of his career, except for the fact that Jordan's group of competition was of far higher quality overall to begin with*. The 1970s had a severe dearth of quality NBA competition to begin with, and having to compete with the ABA weakened it even further

I have a simple point: the man can’t play forever!!! Kareem was 40 in the Celtics series. Smfh.

Love this. You two should go live together

In fairness to the Pistons they got robbed in ‘88. A phantom foul called on Laimbeer sent Kareem to the line and that was it.

Yeah, the Bulls really only beat the lakers because they didnt have a 42 year old that would have been averaging under 10 ppg and 4 rebs. Do these people even do the most surface level research into their talking points? Kareem was the 5th scoring option on that team before he retired. He would have been the 7th or 8th option on the team the next season

I think the 1991 Lakers were better than the '89 Lakers because old and slow Kareem slowing them down. I believe the documentary series was trying to give Scottie some flowers because they focused on the "lowlights" of his career in Chicago. They don't even mention the games that he and Jordan both scored over 40 points or the playoff game against the Knicks when he had 27 points to lead the team to their first victory in that series in 1993. Scottie became a great player because of Jordan but he is a bit overrated by Jordan haters.

aoh could you check as well the game 6 of the portland finals where mj got "benched"

He said Isiah Thomas never beat the lakers at full strength we'll neither did Magic. I was a die hard laker fan "at the time" and the pistons truly won us the year when the refs bailed out Kareem. LA was healthy that year. They called a bad call on laimbeer on kareem. Even I was like man i guess the ref really respects all the years Kareem has been in the league and possibly wanted us to win. They gave us that one. On top of that Isaiah was playing hurt for two games. His adrenaline kept him going the first game but it wasn't their the next game his ankle was swollen very bad. Same goes for MJ. He didn't beat Isiah either at full strength either in 91. Isaiah's shooting hand was messed up bad that year and the proof goes to looking at the year's states before the 91 season and year after. Other players weren't 100 percent either. The pistons beat boston at full strength and almost beat them the previous year if Thomas didn't throw the ball away to larry bird. They would've won against the lakers if that call which coach pat riley said wasn't a foul with a hurt Thomas. We can't take credit away from them beating great teams when they were 100 percent man they were just great. I knew the next year we played them that we weren't going to win because they truly won us with a hurt Thomas. The Bulls were winning teams too regardless and the pistons were the only team keeping them down. No sorry team would've been keeping Mike down like that. The Bulls never face great teams like the 80's Lakers, Celtics, or Pistons in the 90's. Nobody is going to pick divac over 1987 Kareem. Lakers won 5 championships with him. Name one team who was as great as one of those Celtic's, Pistons, or Laker's teams from the 90's that the Bulls beat in the finals. Please. In my opinion Mike is the greatest player I've ever seen regardless but he still didn't face any great teams in the 90's that anyone would bet their car or house or bank account on.

Someone besides LeBron is the GOAT? But So and So lost games! He didn't have a 100% perfect record!

Make up an episode # the way the LeBron media makes up stats to support him.

Might as well say lebrons mickey mouse ring is even less relevant because he didn't play against Dwayne Wade

Le Balsky fan based is just bunch of kids. Lakers in 91 got 5 players averaging 11+ points. They got another all star in Worthy, Magic, Perkins 14 a game, Divac. Magic was just 32 back then. That was supposed to be a sweep. BUlls that yr just really elevated their game. Sweeping the Pistons the previous yrs champion as well.

I wish someone would send this video to Robin .. because he diminishes jokics championship because he played Miami ….when Miami beat Boston … go figure Jessica

Phx knocked on the Lakers off in 1990 4-1 than that lost to Portland in the WCF.

I rewatched the 1991 and it was true Pippen lockdown Magic through switch courtesy by their coach’s decision Phil Jackson.

Lot of revisionist history. Vlade in 91 was putting up better numbers than Kareem in his last playoff run. Jordan and the Bull 5-5 against the Showtime Lakers.

Ridiculous, what a reach. Retirement is one thing, now injuries are the victors problem? How about missed game winners? Are they going to say Jokic never beat the Lakers when LeBron didn't miss his shots? That the Mavs never beat the heat when LeBron didn't choke?

Bad boy le media talking points of just bitter 70 legends like george gervin Julius irving that nba set up mike meaning top nba offical commissioner then on down they change the rules for jordan and people with similar skillset for one one play yarda yarda etc.... yes but the league was most physical late 90 early 2000 but the 94 rating was worst then what we have today so yes nba is a business not a sport entertainment

Isaiah kept forgetting that magic was injured when he says he beat bird, magic and MJ.. thanks AOHF..

And Thomas never beat Smush Parker!!!!

The Portland Trail Blazers didn't defeat the Lakers the year before. In 1990 the Lakers were defeated by the Phoenix Suns in 5 games. A big factor being Kevin Johnson torching the Lakers. That never happened when Kareem was there either. They always had good teams but Jabbar's presence forbade their advancement. I have no agenda and am not confused as some people are. The Bulls never beat the Showtime Lakers or the great Celtic teams. Just a fact. Jordan played as good as an individual can play in a team game. 1 man couldn't control it in the 1980s. That decade was a level higher than anything we've had since regarding strength of the teams. They were deeper, stacked with multiple all stars with quality players coming off the bench. The Lakers were powerhouse but so was Boston, Philadelphia and the Milwaukee Bucks. In the the San Antonio Spurs were loaded. The East Coast Media Bias may put a hit out on me for clarifying this. Any team with George Gervin, Artis Gilmore, Johnny Moore and the explosive Mike Mitchell as well as Gene Banks will be a 🏆 contender. The Bulls would have their hands plenty full with Milwaukee and San Antonio from certain periods of that decade. Not a knock on Michael Jordan as a player but I draw the line on the full on hero worship. I never saw a player more dominant in every facet of the game than Mid to late 70s Kareem. He altered every part of the game on both ends. He didn't have Jordan's or even Erving's flash and marketability. That's it. He literally carried the late 70s Lakers on his back scoring 43+ pts 4 times in one series against the Warriors not to mention the 20+ rebounds 5+ blocks. Still LA barely won in 7 games. The next round he scores 40 on the great Bill Walton outplaying one of the greatest players to ever play but that wasn't enough in a team game. Portland had an outstanding team and won the championship. If one guy could do it trust me Jerry West would be walking around with about 12 rings instead of only 1. Look at the man's performance in those pressure moments. Kareem passes the test, Jordan passes the test, West passes the test, Lebron doesn't even enter my thoughts.

The Lakers were not fully intact in the 91 finals. Worthy was playing injured and Worthy was pretty much a non factor. Just pointing that out for clarity. The Bulls still would have won that year even if the Lakers were at full strength and 40 plus year old Kareem wouldn't have made a difference against the great Bill Carthwright. lol. It wouldn't have mattered the year before either against the dominant force of Kevin Duckworth. *snickers*

Who started this conversation anyway? I mean what kareeem not playing in finals have to do with anything? This is like if MJ didnt retired in 93 would he won two more rings….

See, and that's the problem when you hear these guys saying stuff and people only take for face value like it's the gospel, i.e... Isaiah Thomas👀

Lecrybaby never beat Dirk

@AOH, I just watched this highlights video, and Scottie did put the clamps on Magic in game 2 of the finals series. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y9OIekC43ek.htmlsi=QYOCvFhJqdfCpnRk

Aoh the Lakers would have swept the pistons in 89. The injuries were the Factor. And still the Captain and big Game James kept fighting. F..k the Bad Boys

lebron fans and jordan fans are the same they’re apologist and deluded in their own right. this channel isnt better than a lebron jock sniffing channel. you guys just fight on the opposite side 😂

'89 Lakers are what cost Riley his coaching job in LA. He over worked the team. Byron got injured during the workouts and Magic, who was sore from those work outs, got injured in game 1.

in my days ppl solve a dispute on the court nowadays they talking all about the game and not watching or playing it its hilarious

LeBron James made it to the finals ten times

Kareem was 44 by then...

MJ never beat Wilt or Bob Cousy either.

Yall can call me crazy, but I think MJ's closest competitor was John Stockton. John and Karl are the only all-star players to face MJ twice in the finals. Those Jerry Sloan teams were always competitive and always in the playoffs. They knocked off some great teams and came up short for a long time. I will never forget the shot over Byron Russell and how it cemented Jordan's legacy; it must therefore also cement the team he shot it over for the 2nd time. Who else has the caliber of grit necessary to compete on the highest level like MJ?

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